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  • that little speech about vanguard, sounded so wrong! also, more vanguardo please!

    but yea, this isnt really a eye opener to me, but it reinforced the thoughts i had about deck choice in general

  • @thefish389 Duly noted!

  • u see TG Stun Won YCS Atlanta I knew it!!!

  • @act15ben lol yes, I did see that TGs won. Not sure if the champion was really the best player there but it was his day.

  • Backrow- Skill drain, Gravity Bind, Imperial Custom, Scrubbed raid, Dark bribe

    Front- Emissary of the afterlife

    With all of those at 3...meta gets mad

    Exodia might not be tier 1, but when played right can pull some wins

  • @ExodiaTheTormentor I'm definitely not down to play Exodia when I could have my entire hand looped away at any moment vs Wind-Ups, lol.

  • @TheSandTrap yeah thats true, they are a big enemy

    but with skill drain their whole deck is locked down

  • @ExodiaTheTormentor While true, I don't think you'll get Skill Drain as often as you'd like.

  • @TheSandTrap Yeah thats true. But I run 2 Tyrants tirade as well and scapegoat as well as nimble momonga pay for it quite nicely

    and a lil draw power as well to give me what I need for the lockdown, X3 One day of peace and X1 Pot of duality

    I mean for an exodia deck it grabs a decent amount of wins and once it starts ging and they waste their MST's and Heavy storm only to get Dark bribed, Fake Trap'd or Imperial Custom decoy'd its pretty much GG unless they can do somthin crazy

  • Honestly right now just off the top of my head, what seems like the best deck would be some sort of T.G. stun variant. Since the cards that you would side against other decks don't hurt it as much (shadow-improsing mirror, maxx "c") but there are some that would hurt the deck: Dimensional fissure or macro cosmos, but, not many decks have the ability to play those cards, the only deck that can and still be a threat in my opinion is Inzektors, and to a lesser extent samurais. Just my 2 cents.

  • @ShinGaming Well, TGs can still be strong until they take a hit come next format.  At least they still have Skill Drain.

  • @TheSandTrap However when I posted this comment I hadn't seen the list and it was before YCS ATL so I think I made a solid prediction there, but yes, they are significantly hurt by the list, still a good deck, just not as good as it was.

  • @ShinGaming Indeed!

  • Scraps topped YCS Tacos! Did you see? What do you think?

  • @generaltso3 I did!  I saw KTWs and TKRs, making the line-up hella anti-metaish. KTW looks to be a good, safe metagame call. Not sure I'd run the deck myself, but we'll see how the new format shapes up before making decisions like that!

  • It did a lot I just did exactly what you said put the vid on and sat my deck infront of my for a hour and it won, and ppl lost to me for sid decking wrong presenting a illegal deck

  • @zarfies23 Nice, lol. I'm very glad to hear about your success :).

  • Another great vid

    I won my regionals top 8 inzektor

    Your vids help,ppl were asking about my side all day and complemeted me one day

  • @zarfies23 Thanks! And that's really great to hear man, gj! I'm glad my videos could help you out a little bit! :)

  • i was thinking herald agent,perfection practically negates everything plus the fact that krystia doesnt freaking die makes the deck even better atleast in my opinion. i sure hope they dont get hit by the ban list this is such a good vid so what do u think about herald agent

  • @DemonicDuelist1 I thought about using Herald Agent before, but then I quickly remembered that TKR shits on the entire deck and is also a very popular card in the current metagame.

  • @TheSandTrap thats very very true but if im going against inzektors, wind up and there teching in tkr it screws over the opponent first because fo there searching ability thats just my thought on it

  • You made some very insightful points about Scraps being bad for this format. I had been playing Scraps since they came out, but with the September 2011 ban list, I also noticed that the deck was just hurt too much by all of the changes to the format.

    I switched to T.G. Zombies at the start of the format. However, with Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror and Chain Disappearance as popular sides against Inzektors, I don't really want to risk playing T.G. Zombies anymore, since those hurt my deck too much.

  • @LightGrunty Good thinking! Definitely wouldn't run TG Zombies anytime soon.

  • Hey man what you think about glads????

  • @Bluespoose I prefer generic store-brand trash bags!

  • I am interested. lol

  • @Bluespoose Sexually?

  • lol, very good points in this video, so i subscribed. but i refuse to side with the meta XD i'm using Hero Gate this format and its doing extremly well ^_^

  • @xRainProductionsx Nice, and nice!

  • @TheSandTrap haha, zero wrecks inzectors and wind ups XD

  • I have no idea what vanguard is, nor how you get it. Review pl0x! :P

  • @Destroyaj Duly noted!

  • Lol I play blackwings and I'm not either thing you said

  • @kingoftheflock Blasphemy!

  • u think tengu fabled would a good deck?

  • @TheLuisiano090109 Oh my, no.  So much special summoning in a meta filled with Maxx "C" does not bode well.

  • Burn, Chain Burn, Empty Jar are I think the most interesting decks to try. lol

  • @bondlover1313 Yeah, if you like the sweet taste of dick in your mouth!

  • @TheSandTrap LOL, thats not really true, They very easy to stop and side for. Empty Jar =Neo Bambe King Chain Burn (Stall/Burn) = Prime material dragon (new structure deck) so they're not that hard to stop or even slow down a lot. Just saying , Love the comments though. Subbed :)

  • @bondlover1313 An excellent move, good sir.

  • @TheSandTrap subbing? lol nice reply man. But they're very easy to stop now since the structure deck and Neo bambe king is like a penny. So it is very cheap and easy to side for. lol

  • also, T.G.'s <3

  • oh goddddd... "you're black and you like chicken wings" xDD haha lol.........

  • @CrazeeAdam I was originally intending to edit that line out, but forgot...ooopsie!

  • I feel like Karakuris are under the radar now... just a bit. They main deck all the antimeta tkings, Vailers, and such. But there Machine Earths soo not something you my think of. Dont forget you Cyber Dragons and Chain diappearces!

  • @FrankCrankMilliken53 Ionno...TKR, Maxx "C", and Veiler are all very strong against Karakuri.

  • @TheSandTrap Well, At least I hope so. Im running them at ycs. out of the 3, Im only worked about max c. I biuld my deck to get around tkings and veilers, as much as I could.

  • @FrankCrankMilliken53 Well, I don't think you'll have much of a problem running into many, many Maxx "C" lol.

  • In my opinion, rabbits and plants are the best decks right now. Rabbits because they can play defense and offense perfectly and plants cause they can go off for days and it's so hard to side against them. I would play rabbits but there too expensive and I would play plants but it's a very skill based deck and I usually miss play alot. So this whole format I've been playing agents and I've had huge success. This deck has out's for days and I can do so many different plays to win the game.

  • @teamtourguideless Agents seem like a solid choice for the current format.

  • I'm goin to run my chaos plants deck what u think? I was goin to play rescue rabbit. PM

  • @atlairf I'm not sure...doesn't sound broken enough to bang with all the retardedness in the current format!

  • I believe anyone can make a deck legit. It comes down to the player's skill, luck, and cards. But the decks that are top tier are just decks that utilize the three factors i listed the best. :D

  • @TheSandTrap Thank you that really helps. I'm one of the few who still play gks and consider it to be a viable deck. But with the intro to dark world a lot of players have given up on it.

  • @Kitsune96792 Yeah, that match-up is rough g1.

  • @Sandtrap I was at locals playing gks and was asking about the ruling on if inzektors can activate the effect of equipping ta monster from grave. The judges were undecided in the ruling. One side went with the fact that inzektors don't target. While the other said cards cannot be disturbed in the graveyard at all. If you know the ruling or know someone who can verify the ruling that would be great. I ended up losing the match but for future reference this could be incredibly helpful

  • @Kitsune96792 I initially thought that since Inzektors don't target that Necrovalley didn't stop them, but I was wrong; Necrovalley does stop Inzektors from equipping Hornet from the graveyard.

  • I'm going to YCS Atlanta Ga. :)

  • @KaibaJeremy1 Good luck! (I think everyone will be needing it, lol)

  • Masturbation joke !!! xD

  • im going to YCS ATL and going against everything you just said and playing scraps, main decking king tigers since king tiger does shut down the meta. i do agree with u how maxx c does shit all over scraps, but it shits on all decks. tking is that hard to deal with if ur good. and veiler is just annoying.

  • @RunRickyRun1991 haha well, while I don't agree with your deck choice, good luck to you at the YCS!

  • I think that TG Drain is still a good deck since I beat Rabbit, Tour guide Wind Ups, and Tour guide Insectorz at my locals thursday. I was completely dominate. Out of the 5 rounds of swiss i was 2-0 everyone very fast and no one could respond to my skill drains and shard of greeds and random plus cards that maintain field advantage all the time. Plus i ran heavy back row with 3 starlight road and 3 skill drain. I cut the tg1-em1's out they are pretty useless this format.

  • @act15ben Sounds like you've adjusted your deck for the current meta for sure. I saw a similar deck yesterday that sided King Tiger Wanghus as well. Very annoying!

  • @TheSandTrap I'm very serious about this deck. I think TG Drain is gonna be a big impact during this Meta. I might even go to YCS Atlanta just to prove this deck can top a YCS. My build is more original. Today I went undefeated again. 44 people at my locals sunday tournament. 5 rounds of swiss and playoff top 16 for 4 more rounds. I went 9-0 I beat insetorz again as well as wind ups and more dinno rabbit and even plants and hero beat. and Herald Hyperion and Gallis Agents. I owned everyone.

  • @act15ben Sounds like you're confident with your deck choice; maybe you should go to YCS Atlanta and let us know how things go!

  • @TheSandTrap I like just basically 2-0 people that top regionals and been to YCS in the past and got in top 32. I was like surprised how good my deck was playing. I'm scared of it being netdecked cause its really just that good. Your vids thought me alot about side decking and I know how to perfectly side out against almost any scenario with this deck. I can not be stopped by Maxx C or Vieler. And nothing can run over me. I am gonna run over them and plus like crazy.

  • Malefic Skill Drain, similar to what was run at ycs indy. The skill drain hurts both wind-up/inzektors. Gain field advantage and depending if you run the necrovalley version it might bring you great success.

  • @Kitsune96792 Indeed, Skill Drain's going to be strong in this format. I just hope that you get a turn to play it!

  • @Shirozakura23 wind up hunter sends to the grave not discard

  • I thought Dark World want their hand to be discarded. Why would it be weak against Wind-Ups?

  • @Shirozakura23 Kindly read wind up hunter.

  • lol

    

  • I want to thank you again for your input on deck-building this format. I was going mad when the decks I want to build will not work for this current format. I have a pseudo Tengu-Plants, and an incomplete (yet fully built) Wind-ups. I want to try a Zeta Reluctant / Fortune Lady control, where Future Visions will start some shenanigans. However, like you said, if I were to take the latter to YCS Long Beach (my home town), especially my 1st tourney ever, I don't think I'll do well at all. Thanks!

  • @WiiAgent007 No problem! Glad my videos are helping :).

  • All day, not bad.

  • Poster boy of yugitube for sure. no homo. keep it up.

  • @LaNeTaYGO Thanks! lol

  • The meta is so messed up right now. i think konami needs to perform a colonoscopy on this game and get the shit out.

  • @oconcrs Agreed!

  • rabbit

  • @AsianHomeVideos Unfortunately, a solid choice :(.

  • stun....

  • @frankinberry123 Shrug!

  • I am thinking about running Parallel World Heros for YCS atl.

  • @ThirdStriker06 Sounds kinky O.o.

  • Everyone is playing Vanguard, but no one seems to remember, or play Duel Masters. I love Duel Masters q.q ...

  • @clashx9 I never played Duel Masters, or even know what it looks like. I'm just excited about Vanguard :).

  • i wanted to run mystic piper chaos. but veiler anf maxx c does horse shit on this deck . possible reconsideration? yes, what deck? karakuri.

    vangard, wouldnt mind seeing what its a bout. gotta be open to something new yknow. video : good video, strong points throughout. makes me wonder if ur a public speaker as a job xD. nice vid.

    recomendation: seeing how ur unique at this, why not make a video based on cards u see that are under used. and what next card will grt unbanned. or set to semi-lim

  • @Romantictogepi No, I'm not a public speaker, but I do train/coach operators. I'm not sure Karakuri would be the best choice right now either as TKR, Veiler, and Maxx "C" are all strong against it. And your suggestions for other videos are duly noted!

  • What do you think about Chaos Stun?

    I saw your earlier video on Chaos Stun XYZ but I'm not doing too well right now with it against the meta.

  • @InTecknicolour XYZ Chaos was great in the pre-ORCS meta. Now, however, I do not think it is as good as it was. I never have been a fan of "stun" decks, because they typically do not have as many options when playing as other decks. But, shrug, maybe they could do well? 

  • I vote for the intro to Vanguard! It looks very complicated, but a lot of fun!

  • @yugiohtopmaker528 19 people for Vanguard!

  • Haha "I think this is a good time to run Infernities!" - " SHIT NO!"

    I was exactly the one who thought "mhm... my opponent leaves me with no cards in my hand, lez play infernities!" but thanks to you i changed my mind for ycs leipzig :D btw do you think that Agents are good enough to be played ? without maxx c and tgu , but with that tg shit

  • @ridvan1995 I think Agents can be really good right now, but not with that TG shit. That stuff sucks right now imo.

  • Vangaurd is interesting. Don't want to get into a second card game though. Personally, I'm running rabbit. I feel like it has the best overall match-ups with everything in the meta at the moment. Fiendish chain is such a godly card. And Dolkka is beast.

  • @cleedow Can't blame you for running Rabbit, it's really stupid good :(.

  • I'm running HERO Beat, because it's my best deck and I can't build another competitive deck right now. I have Veilers, D.D. Crows, Fiendish Chain, Skill Drains, Cyber Dragons (damn Zenmaines) and Shadow-Imprisoning Mirrors. I'm maining 1 Viewer, 1 Cyber, my Chain and considering a Skill Drain, rest being sided. Does that sound good? Does HERO beat have an at least ok match-up to the meta?

    Also, liking Vanguard, seen a few episodes, haven't played it yet though. Would like to see it from you.

  • @NicoNicoNess I think that Hero Beat may be a strong metagame call since Veiler and Maxx "C", both popular cards, don't do much to the deck. I'm not sure how the match-up is vs DW, Rabbit, Agents, Plants, etc, but at least against Wind-Ups and Inzectors it seems like it can be strong.

  • @NicoNicoNess Also, 18 people for Vanguard!

  • The best freaking decks right now are DINO RABBITS, Inzektors, and Wind-ups.

  • Don't play with yourself guy. It is bad for yourself.

  • @djhdhdkhy Tell that...to my penis!

  • Plants - unheralded consistency.

    Gemini - not a control format, but shard of greed gave this deck a huge boost.

  • thankz for the advice . REALY apreciate it .......... dont know if i spelled that right

  • @raudelaguilar9760 No problem! :)

  • @Spoofy29: I bet they are :(.

  • @baconreaper3 Thanks! :)

  • Wind-Ups are scary consistent.. You don't need the loop to win, yes it is an amazing combo to have at disposal, but it honestly isn't needed. I would definitely play this deck if I went to Atlanta. I'm hoping they just hit the loop and not the deck itself, so the deck can still be played since it's mad fun to combo off with.

    Vanguard on Saturday Evan! We can make people jelly and play with each other in front of them.

  • @MarkFehr03 Agreed, good sir! Can't wait to play Vanguard with someone besides myself, because I've been beating myself raw!

  • Amen to being sick of this format....Im so sick of playing against plants....im so sick of playing against bullshit no skill decks.Lets hope the new format fixes the game. LOL cardfight vanguard seems like its at the early stage where its not broken yet so the playing field is a little more even.Card art is amazing for it.i just dont understand how Yugioh is a game of hundreds of thousands of cards and only a few are actually used....sad.cant believe its come to tour guide becoming a staple.

  • @RavenMaster22 Indeed :(. And just wait until a TGU reprint comes out...*cringes*.

  • gk's, darkworld wont see as much play because of inzektors and windups running around and it's just a solid consistant deck with hate for everything, necrovalley shits on wind ups and inzektors, can't target the grave so no rat and no bringing back hornet

  • @xMacro2989x Inzectors don't target, so they can still retrieve a Hornet in the graveyard and start blowing up all your shit :|. Stops Wind-Up Rat, though.

  • @TheSandTrap actually, no. The rulilng with necrovalley is anything that AFFECTS the grave. Doesn't have to target.

  • @TJKuro Yes, you are correct. I was mistaken and read the old card text of Necrovalley. Well, that's good for GKs lol!

  • @TheSandTrap Haha ya it happens. And it is! My friend has been using gk's irl and on DN since we found this really interesting build and changed it up a bit to suit our liking. It does extremely well vs every deck in the meta right now. Even darkworlds(though this takes quite a few side spots as it CAN BE a rough matchup if you start bad). However, he's switching to inzektors cuz they remind him of blackwings lol. And he loooooved blackwings.

  • @TheSandTrap I personally plan on using heroes. Especially with shining being reprinted. Deck will be so easy to make lmao.

  • @TJKuro Indeed it will! Deck will have some potential for the rest of this format imo.

  • @TheSandTrap That or gbs like i said earlier. GBs are viable in like...every format lmao. Except last...all that backrow is so frustrating for gbs lol.

  • @TJKuro Indeed!

  • @TheSandTrap Sorry let me rephrase anything that affects the grave bar plague, treeborn, glow-up etc.

  • @xMacro2989x Very true about Necrovalley, although I don't know if that's still enough to make GKs a contender. We'll see!

  • water syncro the top 4 one

  • @darksigner8313 Top 4 of which tournament?

  • @TheSandTrap the ycs in europe i think it was called ycs britihon or something like that it was like last month he went tru everyone lost in the top 4 to rabbit

  • @darksigner8313 Ah I remember that, I'll have to look at the decklist again.

  • Vanguard is amazing!!! i just got my english stuff in the mail...its really great..The art for the game is done with the artist who does the yugioh manga.Yugioh R i think in particular so there is a lot of similarities

  • @RavenMaster22 Indeed!  And 17 people for Vanguard!

  • I am probably going to run the Control Wind-Up build.

  • @YGOTRADER101 It's looking strong, indeed.

  • @TheSandTrap I'd be willing to guess 30% of the field won't have a clue how Wind-Up Rabbit interacts with the deck. Especially when people use it on Carrier to dodge Veiler/Fiendish Chain when looping.

  • Do Vanguard! By the way, where did you get those trial decks?

  • @smithier2 16 people for Vanguard! I got the trial decks from a vendor listed at heartofthecards d o t c o m .

  • I run x sabers

  • @tyralisker You have balls of steel, good sir!

  • racism for the win! good job

    

  • @darthmarth333 lol thanks!

  • I was problably going to use scraps but not now lol : (

  • @Saggysacks6969 lol I'm sorry for crushing your Scrap dreams!

  • i played with my self Sunday all day too

  • @drexviathen I have a feeling it was in a dirty, dirty way...

  • I'm interested in Vanguard, I'd like videos about it :D

  • @AntiRaigeki1 15 people for Vanguard!

  • I would run my tg stun deck Because i feel that it has an ok match up against wind ups and inzectors because you usually set your whole hand plus you play heavy negation for the inzectors. Great video

  • @Jaag971 Valid points.  Hope you go first! And thanks!

  • so if konami stop the plant engine pepole will probally stop abusing plaing 3 maxx c since the deck will not still by in the top tier deck

  • @Teamnofatchix No, people will still continue to use multiple Maxx "C" even though Plants are gone because Maxx "C" isn't good only vs Plants, but many decks.

  • okok scrap suck this format but if exemple if ur were plaing scrap they most by a certain version that can by the best for this format and verry verry importent card to play to conter the worst out there pm back plese

  • Excellent video, keep up the amazing work.

  • @ArleighUnchained Thanks a lot!

  • @TheSandtrap gladiator beasts have a very good mu vs inzektors and wind-ups. Def. a good choice imo for ycs atlanta. rabbit is rabbit...and can topdeck well. Hero is a very interesting one as well and one i could see doing very well as well as better in the future. Chaos is a great choice,possibly the best, but i'm not so sure. Also, from 10:16-10:46 are my sentiments exactly lol. I'm just waiting for that banlist to decide what to use. IT NEEDS TO HURRY UP AND GET HERE!!!=/

  • @TJKuro Seriously! I'm very much looking forward to the new Banned List. Can't wait!

  • Can't stop watching this video. It just feels so right.

    Wouldn't mind seeing some Vanguard.

    Gravekeeper's baby.

  • @murkdd 14 people for Vanguard!

    Also, why GKs? They get shit on by Inzectors.

  • @TheSandTrap I've had success maining triple Fiendish.

    Necrovalley limits their options a tad bit as well.

    Throw in the side deck and the shits usually not on me!

  • @TheSandTrap Actually, GK's do VERY well vs inzektors. The constant interruption(compuls/book/bott­omless/chain/etc.), necrovalley stopping hornet, and a early royal tribute is very strong but not neccesary at all.

  • @TheSandTrap For an example(there are quite a few however) there is a gk player who came in first out of around 170-200(can't remember but it's in that area) beating rabbits, agents, inzektors, and more.

  • Yes, I would go into YCS Atlanta and use Dark World. Even though Wind-Up can destroy your hand turn 1, that still isn't enough reason to not use the deck. With an increase of Veiler/Maxx "C" going around, that's just more dead cards for your opponent when they play against Dark World. Also, Deck Devastation Virus is ridiculous.

  • @Mukister Wha? I love Maxx "C" vs DWs, and Effect Veiler isn't too bad g2/g3 for the TGUs and Ravens. But shrug, if you choose to stick with DW, good luck!

  • @TheSandTrap Maxx "C" is a suboptimal card in my opinion against Dark World unless the opponent uses Card Destruction to pitch like 3 Sillva and 3 Beigge or something ridiculous like that. Any good Dark World player, any good player in general for that matter, wouldn't let Maxx "C" beat them.

    I don't have access to Tour Guide or MGS Raven so cards like Effect Veiler really don't do anything to my build. Thanks for the response though!! Keep the videos coming!

  • Darkworlds are a terrible idea since all the siding for inzektors works against darkworlds. It's best to wait for the hype to die down if u want to use darkworlds.

  • @TJKuro Indeed!

  • TheSandTrap's Wife is like the best card I've ever seen. 

  • @kuribohyellowcarrd O.o (awkward)

  • im the kind of guy who plays the same deck ever format just because I like it lol

  • @nadinkrah lol well at least you'll be really good with that one deck, haha.

  • Caliber Rabbit.

  • @TeamBadKidsUnited Don't you mean, DoomRabbit!?!?!?!!!11!?