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  • Obama is a mason not a Christian. Look it up on google he has a mason ring

  • Obama is a Christian?I'm not so sure.

  • Let's not confuse her illteracy with tongues

  • Speaking in tongues? Sure. There is such thing. Sure. In the distorted mind of the deluded there is. Of course there is such thing. Because there are billions of distorted deluded people on this planet. So there. Of course there is speaking in tongues. Goodness Gracious...

  • I read a book that gave 70 or so documented cases of people overhearing tongues and understanding them and similar accounts. That happened in Acts 2. However, in I Corinthians 14, when Paul talks about tongues being used in church, he writes 'no man understandeth them.' The idea that tongues are languages that must be understood by the audience doesn't enter into to Paul's writing. Paul argues that tongues are to be interpretted.

  • 1Co 14:8:11 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

  • the pentecostal churches misue this "least" of the gifts. why must they speak in a strange, unknown tounge and have an interpreter if everyone in the congregation speaks the same language? it is a false tongue today and paul rebuked false tongues.

  • The answer to your question is in the Bible. Why speak in tongues in church? The answer is if there is an interpretation, so the church can receive edifying. Paul wrote that if a man speaks in tongues 'no man understandeth him.' He spent many verses explaining that tongues should be intepretted if spoken in church so that the church receive edifying. He doesnt say that tongues are not beneficial if everyone speaks the same language, as you imply. The Bible says nothing about 'false tongues'.

  • Well I hope that Sarah Palin doesn´t speak the penticostal gibberish tongues.........speaking in tongues according to scripture is nothing else then a foreign language which was a gift from the holy spirit, a sign for the unbelievers and not for the believers!

  • @PapillonSG is not only a foreign language,it could a language of angels.

  • There Is a Heavenly Language but No One can Speak It unless The Holy Ghost cause You to or else It just babel. The way I tell People to Pray In Tongue Is ask for It then don't try to do It. Also before Christ, God might give Authority to the Un-Godly but Now God Jesus only Chooses Christians to be An Authority If they reject Christ We are Not to bid them Godspeed, In Timothy Its the will of God all come to the Knowledge of The Truth.

  • I think I started speaking in tongues when I heard that my share of the bailout bill with interest was $168K!

    .....although I'm guessing we might not be talking about quite the same thing.... :-)

  • Oh yeah and where can I read the studies that all these wonderful facts come from?

  • i believe speaking in languages is not the same as tongues. we know when we hear someone in their native language. tongues is jibberish. you & i know that but you will let your mythical history book tell you otherwise. think for yourself.

  • I have a degree in Linguistics, I'm well travelled, and have studied 8 or 9 languages or so. I've heard speaking in tongues overseas, and could not tell if it was someone naturally speaking in another language or speaking in tongues.

  • hi Sandra. oh ok. maybe the only way is if its in a church setting. but in geenral i know when a language is spoken and jibberish is said. anyways thanks

  • I ran a tape of speaking in tongues by a former Arabic professor of mine. He thought it might be Turkish or Kurdish. There was a book written in 71 about documented cases of speaking in tongues in known languages.

  • What was the name of this book? I am so confident that its a load of crap that I want to read it.

  • i don't think palin speaks Tongues, to do so u need to be very spiritual i think and i am not being judjemental, but i dont think she even has time 4 church this days, shes been so bussy campaining, being attacked, going 2 saturday night, giving speaches, giving interviews and all that.

  • Your definition of chuch is off, she is the church, Christians are the church, God does not reside in temples made by men. He lives in those who believe in him. So she may not be as involved in activities in a building, but she is being the church in her daily life.

  • yea u r right i knew that, but what i mean is that she is so busy i dont think she has time by her own, she probably has time to pray but i was just trying to explain how hard it would be for her if she was to do spek on tounges, but that's up to her it is not of ur busines, i think that's something personal, besides speaking on tounges is to speak to God or give profecy

  • Jesus said, I show them signs and wonders and they still don't believe. If a person chooses to walk in darkness you are going to stumble. I don't expect you to believe,satan is the author of confusion, the carnal man believeth not the things of God. The Bible tells us, there are but a few that find the way to Heaven. You'll only believe God's word once you accept Jesus as your Savior, read John 3:15-18. This doesn't mean Christians are better than you, it means they took advantage of John 3:16.

  • I will Throw this in ~~~~~~

    It does not matter who gets to be president...

    We are in trouble either way....

  • I don't know how anyone can just tape their self speaking in tongues... Its an experience between you and God, Not something planned or practiced... I think a lot of people are unaware of the seriousness of it. And maybe its being "misused". It doesn't have to be interpreted every time. It is sometime a communication between you and God.

  • I was trying to respond to CherisLamour, but deleted it. Rape is a horrible crime. But its not the baby's fault if a mother is raped. The baby should not be murdered, no matter where he/she resides.

  • you say that christians should pray for their leaders? What about if you were living under King George during the American Revolution...they actually fought against their leader king...divine right was something kings used to rule and control the people

  • Without getting into the issue of divine right, if you considered King George an enemy, Jesus says pray for your enemies.

  • if that was the only course of action there would be no American revolution...see the debates between the Quakers and Thomas Paine...passivism is immoral unless you believe in justice after death which no human can be sure of.

  • Read the K.J.V. Holy Bible in (Pentecost -Speaking in Tongues) 1st Corinthians 14 & Acts 2. Christians who lives for Christ can pray like Him.

  • Yeah, my church is like this.

  • Are you guys nuts or whack I cant believe im reading this it is kinda scary the way some people think weird............

  • Jason You need taught on tongues. Speaking in tongues is for the building up for yourself in private, not meant for interpretation. Give a tongue in church publicly is meant to be a message for the body and must be interpreted.

  • See some of my vids on my channel (if you want to) It will completely disagree with what your saying, but its the Bible.

  • If you feel you have the gift of tongues, I suggest you test the authenticity of your experience. Tape record yourself while speaking in that tongue and then find three or four people (who don't know each other) who claim to have the gift of interpretation and let them listen to it. If their separate interpretations are identical and don't conflict with Scripture, perhaps you do have this gift.

  • I don't know how anyone can just tape their self speaking in tongues... Its an experience between you and God, Not something planned or practiced... I think a lot of people are unaware of the seriousness of it. And maybe its being "misused". It doesn't have to be interpreted every time. It is sometime a communication between you and God.

  • Ok, well, why don't you take excerpts from a church service where someone is recorded speaking in tongues? Many churches make recordings of their services nowadays. But if tongues are truley a gift which the bible teaches they are, then like the gift of a pastor or teacher, it should be able to be used any time. Your thoughts?

  • Well, I just hate to see people talk about tongues like its a something you do in fun.. Its not like that at all and i have been in congregations. that are introducing tongues to the members like it is something that can be taught and they take turn going around in a circle. Its a scary thing to misuse the tongues.. Yes it is a gift. but it can also be part of a prayer language between you and God.

  • I personally accept it as something sacred, and when you entertain the presence of the lord It is so awesome... that it is Supernatural! ANd for anyone who has never experience this presence should seek it for strength and power.... dont knock til its happen to you. Its truely Powerful! im serious.

  • I don't believe in the modern tongues thing because I don't believe it fits what is described in the Bible.But I admit there's just enough there to "make" a case for it.I still think they're reading things into the Scripture that arent there, but I can see how easy it would be. But like you, churches holding classes on speaking in tongues is not even remotely Biblical.

    As to your other comment, does the Bible ever say to seek the Holy Ghost? I can't remember - its late.

  • I was saying, take the recordings of someone speaking in tongues, find two or three people who claim to have the gift of interpretation and have them listen to the tape individually. If they all come up with the same interpretation, then maybe its legit.

    "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God..." (1John 4:1 KJV)

  • Jason it just dont work that way. :)

    maybe one day people who dont understand will.

    until then...... who knows`

  • tubeaholic. I accidently hit remove instead of reply. Yes, there are churches where tongues are intepreted.

  • no it is you closed minded creeps..... that like to put people down and talk crap that you can't back up i have known mcmiraclevally for years and never once in the time that i have known him has he pushed anything on anyone.. and you are driving your self away from christ......

  • You can't drive away from something that isn't there.

    You know, I saw a bunch of creeps with signs that said "With God Anything is Possible" and I laughed and thought to myself... If ALL things are possible with god, then it's possible he doesn't exist and some things are impossible! What a load of baloney.

    Grow up and ween yourself off superstition before it makes you totally mad.

  • LOL I speak 3 languages fluently, and I'm an atheist!

  • and your point would be???......

  • That speaking in tongues isn't a skill limited to theists.

  • ZionRocks

    I think I just deleted your messages trying to hit reply. I was trying to say I think you probably meant to address those comments to someone else and not me since I believe in God.

  • Like many, you do not understand the meaning of separation of church and state and why it was part of the constitution. She is not forcing her view on anyone and if so, how has she "forced" her views? Just because she speaks doesn't mean she has "forced". The opposite is true, that she is being criticized for her beliefs. Liberals say be "open minded" but only live by this mantra if it fits into their views.

    I'm not getting into God's Plan, HE will take care of that on His own.

  • Praise God that we have someone in political office with morals and someone who considers prayer as an important part of what she does. I don't want someone in office who says he is a Christian but thinks it's ok to murder a child because it is incovenient. That is not a Christian, that is a hypocrite. I am tired of hypocrites! GOD bless America because man can't!

  • I think that you should not trip up over the abortion issue alone. While I do not believe in murdering the unborn, I see that Christians get so caught up in that issue alone that they miss everything else. Bush was against abortion ( so He says) but he is STILL the spawn of Satan & a member of the Occult & a family that supported the Nazis! Everyone that says they are of God IS NOT! The BIBLE tells us 2 try the spirits BY the SPIRIT. Prove all things. Think Critically, For yourself.

  • I am not disagreeing with you. As a matter of fact Bush was not part of my conversation. I am living in the now regardless of Bush's faults as a leader which by the way does not make him the spawn of satan. That is a pretty skewed thought. We have a choice to elect someone who openly thinks it's ok to murder children because they are inconvenient among other things. That is my point. I am not so narrow minded as what you think, or believe that abortion is the only issue. Read before you comment.

  • Who cares and talk like this will back fire on all you people. Gov. Palin will not only win for the GOP but will help us with taking the House & Senate. McCain-Palin 2008. We have 17-million votes in this Faith and we will vote:

    Rev. Michael Capps, Ph.D

    Assembly of God, International:

  • So Rev after a month to consider and analyze the election and Sarah Palin, do you still think your predictions will come to pass? McCain/Palin have moved steadily down in the polls ever since that little convention bounce (that every candidate gets). Barring a tragedy, you can start saying "President Obama", who will preside over a massive liberal majority in the House and the Senate. But you keep praying. Maybe you'll get a bigger "miracle" than the face of Jesus on a potato chip.

  • What good does this kind of talk do?

    You say we need to pray for our leaders whether we agree or disagree with them. OK, fine go ahead. Just remember that in some cases what we need to pray for is the removal - at a minimum. You say leaders are ordained by God. Ok, fine. Just pay attention when you vote.

  • I only pray for Obama. I highly recommend Novenas for Obama as well.

  • Never mind, the Catholic Church actually FEARS losing tax exempt status.

  • She's non-denominational and she grew up in the Assemblies of God, the largest organized Pentecostal denomination in the world. Her primary place of worship is "Church on the Rock," an independent congregation founded in January 2000.

    Notice when she says "Servant's Heart" and "ship in a harbor" analogy, in her speeches. Evangelicals will recognize it. :)

    God Bless.

  • wutru...

    So I guess her denomination forbids proper childcare, eh? What kind of "good Christian" mother would put her 4 month old special needs baby in the back seat while she runs for VP? Why would she parade her pregnant teen daughter around for the media to exploit?

    It seems she may want to use a few catchphrases to rope in the gullible, but the tenets of Evangelism are ignored in her family life, ethics & corruption investigations and ruthless population control & slaughter of wolves.

  • I dont think that is such an issue. My only problem is the only "reform" this witch hunter is going to do is make abortion illegal and promote funding and support for The christian church. I KNOW those are the only issues she gives a shit about. I knew her adjenda the second I saw who she was.

  • Lots of evangelicals are not too kean on this 'faith based initiative' type of stuff.  It's a temptation for government to get more tied up with churches. So you can't assume she's all into that. Good for her if she can make killing babies illegal.

  • Good for her if she can tell other people what to do with their own bodies is what you mean.

    Who the hell are you too tell women that they MUST have a child that they don't want?

    You sicken me.

  • Who is a woman to murder a baby and decide that it has no right to live... is she God? A woman does not have to keep and raise the baby. but i think it is lower than animal behavior to rip apart your own seed in the womb, because of selfishness & running from responsibility. It is inhumane. We have a choice when we open our legs. We have a right to use birth control, to sleep around or not to. But we do NOT have a right to kill the innocent or unborn. Who gave you that RIGHT?

  • Actually, yes. Or rather, she SHOULD BE god over her OWN body.

    It's her body & none of ur damned business.

    The point is..it's HER choice. NOT YOURS.

    YOU are trying to be god over someone else's body by FORCING her to have an unwanted child.

    Hypocrite.

  • That is where you are wrong! The baby is not "her" body and not "her" choice! With that logic I should be able to kill whoever I want and no one should say a thing.

    That is "playing" God, and that is what people do every day because they don't want to take responsibility for having sex.

    Hello! If you have sex, you can get pregnant.

    Just another example of someone caring about themselves and not wanting to deal with the consequences of their actions.

  • No, you are wrong.

    It IS her body. Remove the fetus for two minutes & see it it lives w/out her.

    A woman should have the right to have COMPLETE control over her own body & fertility.

    What about rape or failed contraception?

    And, I don't see the connection between you wanting to kill people & a woman having an abortion.

    What makes you think that you have the right to tell someone else how to live their life?

    Are you insane or a typical brainwashed christian?

  • Suppose a woman gives birth to a baby in a mountain cabin, but decides she doesn't want to feed the baby and lets her sit in her own excrement and starve to death. Would she be charged with a crime if this were found out? Yes, even though she did not use HER OWN BODY to care for that baby, feed her, change her diaper, etc. Abortion procedures are not passive like this. They are acts of aggression, forcibly cutting up the baby or injecting saline.

  • The 'surgical procedure' you describe is going in and killing the baby in the womb.

  • No, it's removing an unwanted fetus.

    And, IT IS STILL HER BODY. What gives YOU the right to tell someone else what to do with their own body ?

    Please tell me.

  • How much of the baby is part of her body? 50%, 100% ?

  • So much of the laws requires people to do certain things with their bodies. A father paying child support has to go out and work with his body to care for his kids. Parents are legally and morally required to use their own bodies to feed and protect their kids. You have to get your body out of bed to change a baby's diaper.

  • deeppickle I agree, Palin  is NO mother. She is ALL politician.

  • I don't even care if she speaks in tongues or not. I'm amazed at Americans if they would vote for someone who could potentially be president who even BELIEVES in such non-sense. If this video is accurate, then she believes it. Think about it, America. I can accept that a born-again christian would vote for her. But if you are a rational, skeptical, reason-based thinker - you better really consider what this could mean.

  • Well put, happy.

    Don't you just love the fact that Creationists are the #1 group in this country that denies global warming too?

    They want to force myths (that have no scientific basis) into science classes and then deny a global situation that THOUSANDS of scientist have worked on for decades.

  • Yeah. We'll all be in a "Deep Pickle" if McCain gets elected. He might not live through the campaign, let alone through his term.

    Can you imagine: The Russians have just invaded the Ukraine. President Palin has the NeoCons screaming at her to retaliate. She says: "I have to pray about this". So, whatever "god tells her" will be the result. Oy.

  • non-sense?

    Acts 2:38 read it yourself~

    Then peter said unto them repent and be baptised everyone of you in the "name of Jesus Christ" for the remissions of your sins and ye "shall" recieve the Holy ghost.

    2:39~

    For the promise is unto you and to your children and to those who are afar off even as many as the Lord our God shall call. (that's everyone)

    and the evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost is " speaking in tongues"

    dont take my word for it It's Bible read it your self.

  • Quoting your holy book is meaningless. If you can't argue you point with a rational conversation that proves that what you are saying makes sense, then yes, it's non-sense. The problem for you, of course, is that you can not argue you point using reason, logic and rationality and you know that. Take away a book written by ancient goat herders and you have nothing. There is ZERO evidence supporting anything you say. If you want to believe it - that's fine by me. Just don't expect others to.

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