very good job,how much money do you want for same cell like this.if you are still interestested in seling cells like this please contact me.we can do it by e-bay thank you
Hello! 'm from Brazil. I am trying to mount a cell but I am having difficulty level. between the plates is a blur of brown mass, and corrodes the plates between them, do not know where I am wrong can you help me (316 L stainless steel passivation) visionmachine@bol.com.br
and it needs to be very thin. This produces a better current but you must put positive and negative cells and after separate weave a flat rubber that you can use a seal aswell. it is going to give you a better performing system . For the electrolyte use potassium hydroxide and at the top make 2 holes 3 quarter inches please try to private message me.
I was watching your video about your designs, and I really like it how did you do it? I want to suggest how you can improve yourself firstly, at the bottom in each shape cut the triangle , for to distribute the water inside , when you have the package cell the you need to cut 1.5 inches wide on the external part of the cell battery and connect the water from the outside. The cells are too separated in bettween you can use 2 or 3 seals made from the plastic sticker
If you want to get better results you should decrease the space between the plates, the closer they are the better. that should help. depending on the amount of plates you put in you, say you have 10 plates, there should be 3 negative and 2 positive, neutral plates between them should give a stronger current and higher output. I could be wrong about the set up of the plates so you should check about how many neutral, positive and negeative plates you need in your alignment.
The Holy Grail is spontainious disassociation of the water molecule, with lowest possible energy imput. My suspicion is that "Harmonics" holds the key, getting the molecule to ring like a bell and shake itself apart.
Remember the bridge in the USA, only a moderate wind, got it to ocilate and destroy itself.
Hi current is just brute force, high tuned frequency is elegant science.
@1BustedMyth You have a point there and if I am not mistaken Stan Meyer moved in that direction.
Basically it sounds good and makes sense, but practically it could turn out as an extremely complex technical challenge. Nature is doing such things in very efficient ways but replicating it on an industrial technical level often turns into a frustrating nightmare because you know it is possible but you just do not find the key. But eventually some great inventor will pop up... I hope soon. Thanks.
about the bridge you mension ammanni, it on't happens for the folowing reason, no matter how much catalyst you add to the water it will always be a wors't conductor than the steel, just check ir using your multimeter using omic resistence, the current will travel on the substance tha has the lowest resistance possible, and it will always be the Steel, hope it helps you
@ammanninox Could you maybe help me out with a name of the electrician superstore you got yours ? Just in case, I'm trying to get hold of one, but if I won't find one ?
Thanks in advance. And thanks for the good videos. Keep on posting, so the people who are interested in this can learn from. Take care
Another thing that might be added for small engine purposes is another container for stored hydrogen in gas form, and with the constant flow coming from the HHO generator, it can be used as a fuel source for small motor bikes, and go-karts and what not. The only drawback is that you have to let it run for a minute or so before you can start the engine.
very intresting, i like this, can you tell me please, how long you soaked the plates in white vinigar for during condtioning, thanks you, and its another fine video guy.
I invented a breakthrough source of energy that contradicts the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena that contradict the law of conservation of energy. I am looking for $6M for a prototype and patents.
Tested working DIY Its work DoublerVoltage In12V to35V, out 24Vto 76V circuit fr. ElecFree com "search 12v to 24v dc to dc converter IC 40106, change BYWS1P1-200 to FT2000G n all the Capacitor into higher value, work very well together with PWM G Forrest Cook, all MosFeT using IRF250 w/Big Heat sink , 30Amp Max. for any HHO Cell thks
i have to know .r u using 316 grade stainless ? its non magnetic as well as non degrading in the electrolosis. KOH , industrial supply called basic H i think
hi, i saw this video and read your video message , i saw another video earlier showing or alerting KOH can be dangerous to use experimenting with HHO watch?v=UvBmpw1Cx2k
If you have time to watch my video number 8 you will see the answer. At the moment I am preferring the plates configuration for many practical and technical reasons.
As a matter of fact I just assembled yesterday a new small plates cell and I will post it on a new video I hope in october.
40 seconds of distraction just for a change in 8 videos to let people know what I am surrounded with and that we are dealing with water the most mysterious of elements, yes I agree it must be ......... annoying, sorry I wasted your time.
its not annoying at all i love to see the beautiful place you live in, you are very lucky to see those landscapes. Keep it on bro, all the best in your projects
is it possible that this invention could be used to power any device? if so, then it is time for this world to change. Money will become obsolete as we use full automation powered by water. Be prepared to sit back and relax as robots do all our work.
I like your ideas and the great craftsmanship on your cells. My only suggestion when producing your videos is to leave out all the visual comparrisons such as water falls and exct.. it would be great to see that kind scenery in a different video all together. It is just a bit distracting while watching and learning about your ideas. Sorry i am not trying to be rude this is just a personal opinion and suggestion. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for your dry cell idea. I had my cell cut by laser cutting factory. All gaskets, plate and outers. Size is 8 inches x 6 inches x 6 plates.
It is very good output (best i have seen so far) and now just waiting on a pwm to put it all in the car. Keeps cool at 7 amps. Lots of gas to the header tank but not measured yet.
Nice idea, but your always going to have the problem of getting bubbles up and out of the plates as its a dry cell configuation. Wet cells have the advantage of using water pressure to remove the bubbles. The lower the plates are in water, the speedier they are removed.....Plates are best left at 1 mm gap, not as suggested - the bubbles are easier to remove with water pressure.
looks quality though seemingly stainless plates tarnish maybe final version use gold plates have viewed 3 stainless measuring cup system big to small cups that seems to have high output low amp
Hey ammanninox! excellent design! and it is very well crafted too! i love your videos. one piece of advice, on your next design try making the plates closer together. about 30-40/1000 of an inch will yield more efficient production from what i hear... keep up the good work! i'm looking forward to your next video!
HI this is an exellent cell, but before assuming there is no brown sludge bi product(hexavelant chromium highly toxic carconergenic waste) you must run it for at least 40hrs!this is a major problem for this tec!AND MUST BE OUR MAIN PRIORITY to crack with this tec,GOOD LUCK .Flyingdoctorcee.
Hi from w yoming. Cleaning your plates is good , also try using nickel slag blasting for surface area instead of sanding or plating if you can .One ? for You do you know of a metal that can with stand 1200f-2000f thinking inconel but not sure
Olha só, tenho olhado seus videos e estou impressionado com o seu profissionalismo, aqui no Brasil temos pouca informação a respeito do hho e também muito preconceito a respeito além de algumas "lendas urbanas",estou começando com algumas experiêncas e já construí um pequeno protótipo, você tem sido de grande ajuda para as pessoas de mente aberta!
eu acho que tem pouca informacao no mundo inteiro. etsta es uma technologia que merece muita mas attencao! em particular a cima de todo esta es uma technologia gostosa, es um prazer esperimentar com issa-
Yo, your design gave me a prety good idea about how to make a edge effect less cell, I'll build it and post it on my channel soon, thank you very much for sharing! by the way do you speak french?
You do excellent work,too bad you are not in the USA you could help stimulate the economy.When you get the dry cell going take a look at my viedo finding the sweet spot this may help a little bit more.
I saw many videos of constructions but never see the calculation of the work (joules ) for a serious design. i think we need to make frist all thermodinamic laws applicables and then see wath we need for the construccion. i hvae some work and maybe ill finish it in 1 month more. i have seen that the molecule dissociation works better with heat and you will need less Amp. and every time one bubble touch the plates you lose more conductance (S·m-1) of wather (0.05+-) i hope .............
I WOULD USE 100% lye instead of baking soda.baking soda melts around 50c. lye melts around 400f so it will not become part of the water. i hope this helps. wes
well I checked on the pressure rateings for nitril gaskets and yes it will hold the amount of pressure you are suggesting the boyce box makes right at 14L per min thats the highest I've seen proven and verified. If you have some open sourced drawings available I'd love to make one of these copper cored and test out your theory on a 101 plate cell.
I would suggest crosshatching those plates and then useing sodium hydroxide instead.I would think you could make a boyce cell in this manner. I just don't know if the gaskets could handle the pressure once you got the pressure up.
Hey I have been watching your videos for a while and I am impressed. Very good work. Anyway did you prep the surfaces of the plates? You can get a lot more out of your system I'm sure.
A laser shop cuts them. But please before asking read the info here on the right under "more info". I always try to be explicit in order to answer as many possible questions as possible!
Laser cut ha..? you think it is another way to get it done...I'm new on this and I'm very exited, i just don't have a laser cutting machine any where near to town.....Thanks
U R Good, please accept noble peace prize on my behalf....hey guys vote for this swiss he deserves it.....any chances of running for presidents election, coz bush failed on oil issue......hehehehe
Can I come be your student? ...really.Your work and background environment are as tempting as chocolate! Thanks for sharing your research with the community.
I tried using 75% white vinegar and 25% Distilled water, then neutralized it with potassium hydroxide. This works outstanding. I Have not run this test on a full tank yet but the gas production is huge.
I have made a three spiral cell unit that is 12v dc connected in paralel. I use 1 tbsp. of baking soda to one liter of water. When the system starts producing hho the flow is decent. After 30 minutes or so I start to see iron oxide in the water. The electrolyte increases its conductivity as the rust increases.
When I change the water a layer of rust sits in the bottom of the canisters holding the electrolyte.
On your Super Cell will you get the same layer of sediment? Will this short cell?
Your cell runs in series with a very close tollerance between plates. Will the sediment short out the plates shortening the life of the Super Cell? If you had an insulated area at the bottom with a cavity to collect iron oxide and isolate from the plates this would keep the current more stable. It would be easy to put in a clean out plug as well. Picture an area at the bottom similar to the one at the top except without any conductive plates. Just an area to collect rust.
You work is impressive! I think one way of going about to achieve better efficiency is to use a alternator as a transformer, following Stanly Meyer. I have this setup and I am tweaking away on it, this model achieves more benefits power wise. The stator is feed with a pwm of course. Lovely scenery in your video's!
As our second video shows if the electrolyte level is maintained just below the plate upper edge the efficiency will increase and amps will decrease. Also you will notice that the production on the outside of the outter plate will stop. I noticed bubbles in the video. Can't wait to see you MMW with the electrolyte as you have it in the video and if you are willing with the electrolyte just below the plate top edge!!!
I may have missed something in your design. The outer plater is the plate with the view window, correct? If so you will of coarse have production in the window. Just keep in mind that equal surface area is best. Although I don't think the window will affect it that much. One more note: you will probably need to increase the concentration of the electrolyte when you lower the level below the top of the plates to make each cell isolated.
I hope you are not offended by it but for one time allow me to add a bit of information about the area where I live, just a touch of 40 seconds of humanity water connected!!
I do not want anybody to get the wrong idea and think I live in my workshop....
Please visit us at Sppacelabs and watch our videos on a very similar cell. We have a video showing the efficiency of the cell in different conditions. Great Cell!!
Mein Herr , your craftsmanship is astounding . will you be making "white papers" or selling your device ? also did tests prove the spiral coil less efficient ( in terms of gas production ) ? . It seemed to me that they produced more gas per surface area ... A second Alternator could easily be installed in a vehicle with the sole purpose of current generation for the unit ... there are alternators that can produce 200 Amps for on vehicle welding rigs ...
Very nice craftsmanship as usual from your side such nice work, go to zerofossilfuel on youtube and take some ideas about series cells controllers which control current and bubblers which can add water to your cell as it works. also watch sid young on youtube "The big brick" keep up the good work.
Very Nice. If you ever might have a problem with heat with higher production, couldn't one consider extending "wings" from the sides to act as radiator fins?
Very Nice!!!I have an idea for you.Make the plates square,no bolt holes only the window.Take 3/8 lexan,cut to the length of the sides and 3/4 wider than the top.Make a gang cutter that will grove slots for all the plates at once.leave enough meat on the sides to put 2 bolts front and back and side to side.seal the corners with sealer and the back plate will have no window and is negitive.The front plate no window and a fitting for discharge.Make this and send me a ticket to visit your shop.
excellent swiss craftsmanship...i've been following hho for almost 2 years n this design in trance me...keep up the good work n thank you for sharing ur precious knowledge...
Try using the same cell design and add a separate chamber as a bubbler and filler, add a PWM . This would produce a one unit design, should work well!
Hello Switzerland! Congratulations on this new cell, it seems very effective. I followed your steps to build the spirals but meanwhile learned that neutral SS increase production and decreases Amps, so like you ill change from Spirals to Tubes and ill learn something next that will make me move to plates... heheh
ammanninox > I love your videos. Very neat cells. I like the spiral cell, needs more attention I belive. Plate cell systems have been in production for many many years, the key is the electronics with resonant tuning circuits. I think you are on too something with the spiral cell, I will do some 3D CAD model for possible trials. Will email you and also post on my account.
PWM is very important for safety and volume of gas production. With no pulsed power supply, the temp will keep climbing as the capacitor is charged. And eventually the dielectric (water) will break down and plasma arcs will discharge inside the cell.
That cell is the most efficient design so far. But it can be build simpler, mechanically speaking. Google for "series cell.pdf" I think it's the most documented so far. And there is also a simple way to keep the cell filled with water using the reservoir as a bubbler in the same time. If you have trouble finding them, email me and I'll send it to you
What a great teacher! Your ideas, design to product are outstanding! Your design is intricate and working well. If produced for the mass market cost would be very high but worth it. Using a PWM at 40 AMPS should cut down on the heat and produce a vast amount of HHO.
If you see any problems after I post my diagram or if you or others have any idea's let me know I'd like to use the power of the internet to improve my setup.
If they are for a starter they are for momentary usage as most Solenoids are. What you can use instead is a bank of continues duty relays some can switch up to and over 50 amps. These will not burn out as quickly and will have a longer life then your solenoid idea will
Good thought, I think I will use only one normally closed Solenoid and have the gas flow running through a flow control set to a low flow rate, this will feed a smaller amount of gas to the motor at idle, as the cell build up pressure due to the smaller flow control orifice. Then as the accelerator is pressed the throttle body limit switch will close and send power to a single 12V low amp control Solenoid that will bypass the flow control,
I plane on having 2 solenoids, one for idle and one for acceleration and cursing speed.
At idle the first solenoid will deliver a smaller amount of HHO through a flow control this will cause the system to build up pressure, and at acceleration the system will switch to a 2nd solenoid with a full flow rate with a burst of HHO. I will be posting a ladder diagram of my control system.
I ran my 60 plate at 110Volts DC at 6 Amp's and I got about 3-6 LPM of gas.
My plane is to run an automated delivery system, the system will turn on with the key and if the controller sees oil pressure a timer will time out, this will give the o2 sensor time to heat up and give time for the HHO to flow. At this point the EFIE o2 control will adjust the motor to run lean.
I'd like to see your cell design at 60 plates 110 volts DC (Use a 30amp bridged rectifier) with a small amount of KOH mixed with filtered water and see what the out put will be... I plane on using my 60 plate cell in my auto, with a power inverter to go from 12 volts DC to 110 AC then run that into a 30amp bridged rectifier to turn it back into 110 DC.
I have to find where I can get it here in Switzerland and then I will use it. Since I hear everybody is having good results with it I will use it too. Thank you
exellent work i think everyone is following your outcomes i certainly are, have you thought of adding electronics to control the pulse wave? might be worth a go.
hehe find ich toll hihi
PalmaLillieod315 1 week ago
@PalmaLillieod315 Endlich einer der lacht finde ich auch toll danke
ammanninox 1 week ago
very good job,how much money do you want for same cell like this.if you are still interestested in seling cells like this please contact me.we can do it by e-bay thank you
pershing602 3 months ago
ooooo best
akkurt027 3 months ago
Hello! 'm from Brazil. I am trying to mount a cell but I am having difficulty level. between the plates is a blur of brown mass, and corrodes the plates between them, do not know where I am wrong can you help me (316 L stainless steel passivation) visionmachine@bol.com.br
MrWagnerHenrique 6 months ago
Thank you for the video, is so good and a good job.
TheHuamantla 7 months ago
PART2
and it needs to be very thin. This produces a better current but you must put positive and negative cells and after separate weave a flat rubber that you can use a seal aswell. it is going to give you a better performing system . For the electrolyte use potassium hydroxide and at the top make 2 holes 3 quarter inches please try to private message me.
tintan23 7 months ago
PART1
I was watching your video about your designs, and I really like it how did you do it? I want to suggest how you can improve yourself firstly, at the bottom in each shape cut the triangle , for to distribute the water inside , when you have the package cell the you need to cut 1.5 inches wide on the external part of the cell battery and connect the water from the outside. The cells are too separated in bettween you can use 2 or 3 seals made from the plastic sticker
tintan23 7 months ago
what about using a mesh 150 holes per ft thank s doc_comet@yahoo.com
TheDotcomet 7 months ago
If you want to get better results you should decrease the space between the plates, the closer they are the better. that should help. depending on the amount of plates you put in you, say you have 10 plates, there should be 3 negative and 2 positive, neutral plates between them should give a stronger current and higher output. I could be wrong about the set up of the plates so you should check about how many neutral, positive and negeative plates you need in your alignment.
coconut387 10 months ago
Helow from Greece.
you must use KOH as i did ,2 small spoons in 2 liters of water,and the gasket must be 2 mm.
i also used 304 ss 0,8 mm for my car
It runs like new and 45% fuel aconomy.
Nice work!!!!
Keep on the hydrogen!!!!
johny12300 1 year ago
nice job constructing it...it looks very good
WesleyPipes82 1 year ago
The Holy Grail is spontainious disassociation of the water molecule, with lowest possible energy imput. My suspicion is that "Harmonics" holds the key, getting the molecule to ring like a bell and shake itself apart.
Remember the bridge in the USA, only a moderate wind, got it to ocilate and destroy itself.
Hi current is just brute force, high tuned frequency is elegant science.
Wine glass, the Singer
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
@1BustedMyth You have a point there and if I am not mistaken Stan Meyer moved in that direction.
Basically it sounds good and makes sense, but practically it could turn out as an extremely complex technical challenge. Nature is doing such things in very efficient ways but replicating it on an industrial technical level often turns into a frustrating nightmare because you know it is possible but you just do not find the key. But eventually some great inventor will pop up... I hope soon. Thanks.
ammanninox 1 year ago
@ammanninox , Thanks, yes I have been suspecting Myer had similar thoughts.
UV light frequency has a strong reaction on water molecules.
Certain frequency from an ordinary speaker will produce 10,000C 1,000 Bar bubbles
Ultrasonics is the area of my greatest interest!
There are also a couple of ceramic catalysts that are successfull
You are completely correct, nature can be a cruel master, but I enjoy the challenge and just imagine the elation of getting it right! all the best
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
i think i can run my 460 v-8 with all that hydrogen
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rebelliouseoagj 1 year ago
Cell efficiecy: 2,435 Wh/l. Not the best but good.
tarmogr 1 year ago
about the bridge you mension ammanni, it on't happens for the folowing reason, no matter how much catalyst you add to the water it will always be a wors't conductor than the steel, just check ir using your multimeter using omic resistence, the current will travel on the substance tha has the lowest resistance possible, and it will always be the Steel, hope it helps you
vanguardbr 1 year ago
I´d like to know where can I get detallled info about the process of soaking plates? thanks
Maxttor 1 year ago
Where did you get the Amp-Meter ? I'm struggling to get hold of one in Switzerland.
DJHcom 1 year ago
@DJHcom in every electricians supply store, that is where I got mine
ammanninox 1 year ago
@ammanninox Could you maybe help me out with a name of the electrician superstore you got yours ? Just in case, I'm trying to get hold of one, but if I won't find one ?
Thanks in advance. And thanks for the good videos. Keep on posting, so the people who are interested in this can learn from. Take care
DJHcom 1 year ago
Another thing that might be added for small engine purposes is another container for stored hydrogen in gas form, and with the constant flow coming from the HHO generator, it can be used as a fuel source for small motor bikes, and go-karts and what not. The only drawback is that you have to let it run for a minute or so before you can start the engine.
Aractophragnus 1 year ago
these vids in between suck
nice cell
tkfreak1 1 year ago
very intresting, i like this, can you tell me please, how long you soaked the plates in white vinigar for during condtioning, thanks you, and its another fine video guy.
thom in scotland.
fuelban 1 year ago
@fuelban Over night, but as of today I choose rubbing alcohol first
My last video nr 9 shows how I treat the surface and use alcohol
ammanninox 1 year ago
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I´d like to know where can I get detallled info about the process of soaking plates? thanks
Maxttor 1 year ago
your Awesome!!
Dunkin34 1 year ago
How milimetars is the gap between plates ?
Ikre100 1 year ago
nice,you want to improve your work,
okay watch the glotoniok
maybe you can get more idea to improve that.
thanks
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henrykay01 1 year ago
i want you to hook one to a car and test the mpg that is incressed
915greenhornet 1 year ago
I still have no idea what this thing does.
Fleaman25 1 year ago
what do you use as gaskets?
i want to make one but need a litlebit help ;)
scuffieduffie 2 years ago
Check the videos from eletrikride or Zerofossilfuel or HHOPWR or smartscarecrow. Tons of useful information :-))
I have collected hundreds of HHO channels on my youtube channel.
insAneTunA 2 years ago
INSANETUNA is right lots of information out there.
I use neoprene as gasket material
AMOX
ammanninox 2 years ago
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logansstopmotion 1 year ago
wow love ure super cell
poiuy7863 2 years ago
Tested working DIY Its work DoublerVoltage In12V to35V, out 24Vto 76V circuit fr. ElecFree com "search 12v to 24v dc to dc converter IC 40106, change BYWS1P1-200 to FT2000G n all the Capacitor into higher value, work very well together with PWM G Forrest Cook, all MosFeT using IRF250 w/Big Heat sink , 30Amp Max. for any HHO Cell thks
Drdump1 2 years ago
walmart has potassium tablets in their food supplement dept.
Javadavida 2 years ago
i have to know .r u using 316 grade stainless ? its non magnetic as well as non degrading in the electrolosis. KOH , industrial supply called basic H i think
bcdigit 2 years ago
Check out mdbreedi on YouTube high voltage dc.
aikidomark1 2 years ago
hi, i saw this video and read your video message , i saw another video earlier showing or alerting KOH can be dangerous to use experimenting with HHO watch?v=UvBmpw1Cx2k
SupYannis 2 years ago
I love your laymen's terms ... lol
I applaud your dedication ..and your honesty ..
ty for posting all your results
MrMicraphone 2 years ago
Nice cell!!
Hey, according to you, which one is better,
Coiled vs Plate??
Thanks!!
afdhalatifftan92 2 years ago
If you have time to watch my video number 8 you will see the answer. At the moment I am preferring the plates configuration for many practical and technical reasons.
As a matter of fact I just assembled yesterday a new small plates cell and I will post it on a new video I hope in october.
AMOX
ammanninox 2 years ago
Wow, thanks for the fast reply!!
I just can't wait for your new video!!
Lol!!
Keep it coming!!
afdhalatifftan92 2 years ago
wowo yeah the waterfall scenery shit is f-ing annoying
sluterry 2 years ago
40 seconds of distraction just for a change in 8 videos to let people know what I am surrounded with and that we are dealing with water the most mysterious of elements, yes I agree it must be ......... annoying, sorry I wasted your time.
AMOX
ammanninox 2 years ago
The pictures of corripo were the only thing that got my wife to watch this video.
vassevaughtmetal 2 years ago
its not annoying at all i love to see the beautiful place you live in, you are very lucky to see those landscapes. Keep it on bro, all the best in your projects
carlosepp 1 year ago
@ammanninox I´ve seen all your videos, and i liked the waterfalls and nice places cuts... was different. Thanks!
aarias9 1 year ago
is it possible that this invention could be used to power any device? if so, then it is time for this world to change. Money will become obsolete as we use full automation powered by water. Be prepared to sit back and relax as robots do all our work.
mordsith05 2 years ago
I like your ideas and the great craftsmanship on your cells. My only suggestion when producing your videos is to leave out all the visual comparrisons such as water falls and exct.. it would be great to see that kind scenery in a different video all together. It is just a bit distracting while watching and learning about your ideas. Sorry i am not trying to be rude this is just a personal opinion and suggestion. Keep up the good work!
Hoodmonsa 2 years ago
Thank you for your dry cell idea. I had my cell cut by laser cutting factory. All gaskets, plate and outers. Size is 8 inches x 6 inches x 6 plates.
It is very good output (best i have seen so far) and now just waiting on a pwm to put it all in the car. Keeps cool at 7 amps. Lots of gas to the header tank but not measured yet.
jamesabout 2 years ago
I am pleased to hear that, congratulations, I love it when poeple try on their own, this is actually the main reason I post my videos.
I hope soon to have a new version of my plate cell on video!
ammanninox 2 years ago
Nice idea, but your always going to have the problem of getting bubbles up and out of the plates as its a dry cell configuation. Wet cells have the advantage of using water pressure to remove the bubbles. The lower the plates are in water, the speedier they are removed.....Plates are best left at 1 mm gap, not as suggested - the bubbles are easier to remove with water pressure.
psyimology 2 years ago
sodium carbide bubblier might help if one wants unit for automotive use
blackle4ps3 2 years ago
looks quality though seemingly stainless plates tarnish maybe final version use gold plates have viewed 3 stainless measuring cup system big to small cups that seems to have high output low amp
blackle4ps3 2 years ago
Hey ammanninox! excellent design! and it is very well crafted too! i love your videos. one piece of advice, on your next design try making the plates closer together. about 30-40/1000 of an inch will yield more efficient production from what i hear... keep up the good work! i'm looking forward to your next video!
adriencote 2 years ago
HI this is an exellent cell, but before assuming there is no brown sludge bi product(hexavelant chromium highly toxic carconergenic waste) you must run it for at least 40hrs!this is a major problem for this tec!AND MUST BE OUR MAIN PRIORITY to crack with this tec,GOOD LUCK .Flyingdoctorcee.
flyingdoctorcee 2 years ago
Hi from w yoming. Cleaning your plates is good , also try using nickel slag blasting for surface area instead of sanding or plating if you can .One ? for You do you know of a metal that can with stand 1200f-2000f thinking inconel but not sure
wycool467 2 years ago
Olha só, tenho olhado seus videos e estou impressionado com o seu profissionalismo, aqui no Brasil temos pouca informação a respeito do hho e também muito preconceito a respeito além de algumas "lendas urbanas",estou começando com algumas experiêncas e já construí um pequeno protótipo, você tem sido de grande ajuda para as pessoas de mente aberta!
capux73 2 years ago
eu acho que tem pouca informacao no mundo inteiro. etsta es uma technologia que merece muita mas attencao! em particular a cima de todo esta es uma technologia gostosa, es um prazer esperimentar com issa-
ammanninox 2 years ago
Yo, your design gave me a prety good idea about how to make a edge effect less cell, I'll build it and post it on my channel soon, thank you very much for sharing! by the way do you speak french?
Tohmahak12 2 years ago
Amazing dry cell. Pretty scenery. Good introduction.
DOMIJAN102 2 years ago
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DOMIJAN102 2 years ago
You do excellent work,too bad you are not in the USA you could help stimulate the economy.When you get the dry cell going take a look at my viedo finding the sweet spot this may help a little bit more.
Hollywoods7 2 years ago
Thanks for any thing
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farsadayeg 2 years ago
I realy love this design! And I'm working on expanding on this. Thank You
CaptainGSonayer 2 years ago
Thank you for your dedication in this matter. Without you I would not have the knowledge I currently do, I am Vance Emery from Calais Maine. USA.
vancetrance 2 years ago
Great work. Would this super cell in it's present state be to much for automobile
application?
dorfgnal 2 years ago 2
i hope you can understand my bad english
Mcnolo2000 2 years ago
I saw many videos of constructions but never see the calculation of the work (joules ) for a serious design. i think we need to make frist all thermodinamic laws applicables and then see wath we need for the construccion. i hvae some work and maybe ill finish it in 1 month more. i have seen that the molecule dissociation works better with heat and you will need less Amp. and every time one bubble touch the plates you lose more conductance (S·m-1) of wather (0.05+-) i hope .............
Mcnolo2000 2 years ago
that is one of the coolest things I have ever seen. I'm going to try this out.
Fastambermedia 2 years ago
How big is the biggest cell you have made? I want to make a cell big enough to not need gas.
losvarelas 2 years ago
I WOULD USE 100% lye instead of baking soda.baking soda melts around 50c. lye melts around 400f so it will not become part of the water. i hope this helps. wes
rainmaker0909 3 years ago
well I checked on the pressure rateings for nitril gaskets and yes it will hold the amount of pressure you are suggesting the boyce box makes right at 14L per min thats the highest I've seen proven and verified. If you have some open sourced drawings available I'd love to make one of these copper cored and test out your theory on a 101 plate cell.
hhoguru232004 3 years ago
I would suggest crosshatching those plates and then useing sodium hydroxide instead.I would think you could make a boyce cell in this manner. I just don't know if the gaskets could handle the pressure once you got the pressure up.
hhoguru232004 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Find out what PMW is and how to connect it to you HHO gen.
Don't use salt use baking soda salt makes Chlorine.
HHO gas floats up to the ceiling in a house do project outside.
Use wind power while driving down the road the wind resistance
against the car and a wind turbine connected to the HHO cell.
Search for "simple generator" on YouTube.
davidswin 3 years ago
its amazing .... Congratulations I hope make a one like you. thanks I lot from Ocotlán Jalisco Mexico
Regards
arcoeres 3 years ago
nice iTOUCH
RisingSun350 3 years ago
I bought a F-16 Pulse King on ebay and my HHO went crazy. I believe they are experimenting with this in now.
hho1junkie 3 years ago
Hey I have been watching your videos for a while and I am impressed. Very good work. Anyway did you prep the surfaces of the plates? You can get a lot more out of your system I'm sure.
biohazardpwns 3 years ago
Very intérsting. I saw the other movies too.
What are you doing with this water cells?
p1sixsix 3 years ago
Nice Work, very professional look...
How do you cut stainless steel sheets?
pin192000 3 years ago
A laser shop cuts them. But please before asking read the info here on the right under "more info". I always try to be explicit in order to answer as many possible questions as possible!
Thank you AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
Laser cut ha..? you think it is another way to get it done...I'm new on this and I'm very exited, i just don't have a laser cutting machine any where near to town.....Thanks
pin192000 3 years ago
a brilliant design
dexhax 3 years ago
Good start.keep it up!
dallasrdb 3 years ago
what is this..what does it do
chivojaimen 3 years ago
If you do this to the plates you will not have to add anything to the water.
pos,neut,neg,neut,pos,neut,neg, and so on.
It should increase production.
ecco6768 3 years ago
Amox , what meter I you using? I am trying to get a dc amp clamp meter in europe but all sources are in hong kong
What size is your cell? is it 6x8?
thanks
bhelpurii 3 years ago
The wet area inside is 11x12 cm. Well my clamp meter believe it or not does not even have a name so I do not know.
Keep looking!!
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
Would you be interested in selling one of your hho cells?
russdirect 3 years ago
Grande!!!!very nice work!!!
Ritalin0K 3 years ago
Man, i love your work, but please STOP USING BAKING SODA! It is not good for inox! Use sodium hydroxide.
mariuscivic 3 years ago
I will! Thank you very much. I think I just found a supplier here in Switzerland.
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
Wow, very interesting setup, and concept.
Energermany 3 years ago
U R Good, please accept noble peace prize on my behalf....hey guys vote for this swiss he deserves it.....any chances of running for presidents election, coz bush failed on oil issue......hehehehe
shanokhala 3 years ago
wow i like your cell design... good job!
advancedhydrogen 3 years ago
have you tried to ablaid the plates yet?
sparten1114 3 years ago
Can I come be your student? ...really.Your work and background environment are as tempting as chocolate! Thanks for sharing your research with the community.
Good work! :)
kevininbc 3 years ago
Very nice work. Just dont use sodium bicarbonate as a catalizer it will destroy that plates. Instead use potassium hydroxide.
jaimeoops 3 years ago
I tried using 75% white vinegar and 25% Distilled water, then neutralized it with potassium hydroxide. This works outstanding. I Have not run this test on a full tank yet but the gas production is huge.
spikeeightyfour 3 years ago
I have made a three spiral cell unit that is 12v dc connected in paralel. I use 1 tbsp. of baking soda to one liter of water. When the system starts producing hho the flow is decent. After 30 minutes or so I start to see iron oxide in the water. The electrolyte increases its conductivity as the rust increases.
When I change the water a layer of rust sits in the bottom of the canisters holding the electrolyte.
On your Super Cell will you get the same layer of sediment? Will this short cell?
spikeeightyfour 3 years ago
Your cell runs in series with a very close tollerance between plates. Will the sediment short out the plates shortening the life of the Super Cell? If you had an insulated area at the bottom with a cavity to collect iron oxide and isolate from the plates this would keep the current more stable. It would be easy to put in a clean out plug as well. Picture an area at the bottom similar to the one at the top except without any conductive plates. Just an area to collect rust.
spikeeightyfour 3 years ago
very good work, you need to ablaid the plates. this will help with output.
sparten1114 3 years ago
Very high output,may i know what the different with the spiral cell? if took 12v 14amp also same HHO output???Thanks
cryingeva 3 years ago
Congratulation very nice work.
nelsonaleon 3 years ago
The quality of your work is excellent. Also, the fact that you brave the internet in a multilingual environment is equally impressive.
Thanks for sharing the natural beauty of your home. You are really blessed.
entrecreator 3 years ago
You work is impressive! I think one way of going about to achieve better efficiency is to use a alternator as a transformer, following Stanly Meyer. I have this setup and I am tweaking away on it, this model achieves more benefits power wise. The stator is feed with a pwm of course. Lovely scenery in your video's!
svenalbert 3 years ago
6.7 mmw efficiency?
hidrogen22 3 years ago
As our second video shows if the electrolyte level is maintained just below the plate upper edge the efficiency will increase and amps will decrease. Also you will notice that the production on the outside of the outter plate will stop. I noticed bubbles in the video. Can't wait to see you MMW with the electrolyte as you have it in the video and if you are willing with the electrolyte just below the plate top edge!!!
SPPACELABS 3 years ago
I may have missed something in your design. The outer plater is the plate with the view window, correct? If so you will of coarse have production in the window. Just keep in mind that equal surface area is best. Although I don't think the window will affect it that much. One more note: you will probably need to increase the concentration of the electrolyte when you lower the level below the top of the plates to make each cell isolated.
SPPACELABS 3 years ago
switch your +_ to +NNNN-NNNN+
most people are getting better production that way and I don't know why but I do too.
ppfeifdog 3 years ago
Very nice AMOX!!! I would like to share info with you since we have similiar cells(concept that is).
Do you have efficiency results (MMW)?
What is your gasket thickess and does it change or distort with temperature?
Are you cutting these plates & gaskets yourself, in your shop, or are you having them cut?
Jeff
Sppacelabs
bayoujeffro 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment.
No MMW efficiency results yet. Gaskets are stable in temp.
If you take the time you will find some of the information up here on the right of the video.
Keep working hard
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
Stop with the "creative" cutaways already! This is about HHO not a travel agency. Sheesh.
cybergrip 3 years ago
I hope you are not offended by it but for one time allow me to add a bit of information about the area where I live, just a touch of 40 seconds of humanity water connected!!
I do not want anybody to get the wrong idea and think I live in my workshop....
Thanks for your comment.
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
I really admire the precision of you work.
You have given me many ideas.
I thought the scenery was nice.
lilwoodboy 3 years ago
you know what? no one ccares but you. just so you know...
jlbohrer 3 years ago
cybergrip, please do not leave such idiotic comments. CH is beautiful and I'm glad AMOX has shared this with us.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
Please visit us at Sppacelabs and watch our videos on a very similar cell. We have a video showing the efficiency of the cell in different conditions. Great Cell!!
Randy
SPPACELABS 3 years ago
Wow Really Nice !! Well Done !!
deltahho 3 years ago
Saubere Arbeit!
Könnten Sie erläutern wie sie die Plattenladungen zueinander arrangiert haben. Sind wiederum neutrale Elemente enthalten?
Und wie Sie die notwendigen Isolierungen vorgenommen haben?
Vielen Dank! Phantastische Arbeit!
Could explain in which way the plates are arranged, considered the positive/neutral (?)/negative charges?
And how the gaskets seperate the plates from another?
Thank you again for the phantastic work!
Psychorion 3 years ago
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BlackBerry1634097 3 years ago
Nice work! Excellent video!
bukkwheat 3 years ago
Mein Herr , your craftsmanship is astounding . will you be making "white papers" or selling your device ? also did tests prove the spiral coil less efficient ( in terms of gas production ) ? . It seemed to me that they produced more gas per surface area ... A second Alternator could easily be installed in a vehicle with the sole purpose of current generation for the unit ... there are alternators that can produce 200 Amps for on vehicle welding rigs ...
GarthPhilpot 3 years ago
Brilliant!!!!
jimmyturismo 3 years ago
Awsome work...the world will benefit from your continued hard work and outstanding craftmanship. Keep it up champ.
.....Knowledge is power.....
boostix 3 years ago
Excellent craftsmanship!
bornman88 3 years ago
Have been watching for a while always astounding creations and education ? we all wounder what do you look like.
AVAMagneticlev 3 years ago
VAGUELY LIKE CLINT EASTWOOD
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
I have the MAP/MAF enhancer for sale, ebay item 250276831587 I have 1 left.
eliminategas 3 years ago
seriously, its a piece of art!
great work.
doobsta 3 years ago
question from a novice:
is there any reason I can't just take a lead acid battery, remove the acidic electolyte and add the basic electolyte? that is water + bakins soda
after all the lead acid cell is aready designed for maximum efficiency.
does it get warm?
suggesttwo 3 years ago
Very nice craftsmanship as usual from your side such nice work, go to zerofossilfuel on youtube and take some ideas about series cells controllers which control current and bubblers which can add water to your cell as it works. also watch sid young on youtube "The big brick" keep up the good work.
supersilve 3 years ago
Very Nice. If you ever might have a problem with heat with higher production, couldn't one consider extending "wings" from the sides to act as radiator fins?
Your work is not only impressive, but beautiful.
True work of art!
lukeoid153 3 years ago
Thanks for the "wings" idea. Yes it makes sense especially if there is enough air to cool it down.
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
Many guys like to mount there electroyzers on the front of their radiators. May help the "wings" do their thing.
lukeoid153 3 years ago
Superb design.
janmarsh 3 years ago
nice job,sir...best of youtube,good production...beautiful cell...
chileyork 3 years ago
This is an excellent piece of craftsmanship.
Very good video and very good cell.
You do fine work. Very impressive. Keep it up.
lutherp40 3 years ago
the best videos i have seen on youtube.congratulation
fordista58 3 years ago
Very Nice!!!I have an idea for you.Make the plates square,no bolt holes only the window.Take 3/8 lexan,cut to the length of the sides and 3/4 wider than the top.Make a gang cutter that will grove slots for all the plates at once.leave enough meat on the sides to put 2 bolts front and back and side to side.seal the corners with sealer and the back plate will have no window and is negitive.The front plate no window and a fitting for discharge.Make this and send me a ticket to visit your shop.
007fasteddie 3 years ago
excellent swiss craftsmanship...i've been following hho for almost 2 years n this design in trance me...keep up the good work n thank you for sharing ur precious knowledge...
joedanial 3 years ago
PROFESSOR INOX,
Try using the same cell design and add a separate chamber as a bubbler and filler, add a PWM . This would produce a one unit design, should work well!
MikPil 3 years ago
Thank you I am looking for a solution of that kind.
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
dont worry about a fill hole, just use your bubler to fill the cell
poweruser69 3 years ago
Hello Switzerland! Congratulations on this new cell, it seems very effective. I followed your steps to build the spirals but meanwhile learned that neutral SS increase production and decreases Amps, so like you ill change from Spirals to Tubes and ill learn something next that will make me move to plates... heheh
ill stay tune for more of your videos!
Cheers and take care!
hhobegginernew 3 years ago
ammanninox > I love your videos. Very neat cells. I like the spiral cell, needs more attention I belive. Plate cell systems have been in production for many many years, the key is the electronics with resonant tuning circuits. I think you are on too something with the spiral cell, I will do some 3D CAD model for possible trials. Will email you and also post on my account.
TESLAZPF 3 years ago
Thank you I would appreciate that.
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
PWM is very important for safety and volume of gas production. With no pulsed power supply, the temp will keep climbing as the capacitor is charged. And eventually the dielectric (water) will break down and plasma arcs will discharge inside the cell.
TESLAZPF 3 years ago
That cell is the most efficient design so far. But it can be build simpler, mechanically speaking. Google for "series cell.pdf" I think it's the most documented so far. And there is also a simple way to keep the cell filled with water using the reservoir as a bubbler in the same time. If you have trouble finding them, email me and I'll send it to you
radu3g 3 years ago
Genius design cells & intelligence designer I have seen
Thank you and good luck
Blal80 3 years ago
What a great teacher! Your ideas, design to product are outstanding! Your design is intricate and working well. If produced for the mass market cost would be very high but worth it. Using a PWM at 40 AMPS should cut down on the heat and produce a vast amount of HHO.
MikPil 3 years ago
Well I guess I better start looking for some PWM and find someone who knows how to hook it up and see what happens.
Thank you all very much
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
Excellent, it looks great, nice design skills..
FormalScience 3 years ago
Are using any additives such as Lye or Potasium Hydroxide? Very nice work.
LTharle 3 years ago
grande carlo come sempre!
presto avrai mie notizie. ciao e complimenti
primalancia 3 years ago
Jet Propulsion Lab, California Institute of
Technology produced a report for the Society of Automotive Engineers entitled "On-
Board Hydrogen Generator for a Partial Hydrogen Injection Internal Combustion
Engine". "A small amount of hydrogen added to the air intake
of a gasoline engine would enhance the flame velocity and thus permit the engine to
operate with leaner air to gasoline mixture than otherwise possible. The result, far less
pollution with more power and better mileage."
HHO2YOU 3 years ago
Swiss your work in building cells is by far the best ive seen!!!! Now just getting the eff correct will be the end.
peticopower 3 years ago
hello from colombia, excellent work and good luck
calandroo 3 years ago
so thats just connected straight to the battery, no PWM?
lozory 3 years ago
Exatly it is connected to a 12 volts battery.
I have no electronics so far I think I will in the near future I am also interested to see if there can be improvment in production.
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
If you see any problems after I post my diagram or if you or others have any idea's let me know I'd like to use the power of the internet to improve my setup.
Thanks
FluxCapacitor2008 3 years ago
Just a Thought about your Solenoids idea
If they are for a starter they are for momentary usage as most Solenoids are. What you can use instead is a bank of continues duty relays some can switch up to and over 50 amps. These will not burn out as quickly and will have a longer life then your solenoid idea will
Hydroginist 3 years ago
Good thought, I think I will use only one normally closed Solenoid and have the gas flow running through a flow control set to a low flow rate, this will feed a smaller amount of gas to the motor at idle, as the cell build up pressure due to the smaller flow control orifice. Then as the accelerator is pressed the throttle body limit switch will close and send power to a single 12V low amp control Solenoid that will bypass the flow control,
Thanks Hydroginist
FluxCapacitor2008 3 years ago
Sorry to ammanninox for using comment area.
this will give the motor a blast of HHO at acceleration and full flow at cursing speed.
FluxCapacitor2008 3 years ago
I plane on having 2 solenoids, one for idle and one for acceleration and cursing speed.
At idle the first solenoid will deliver a smaller amount of HHO through a flow control this will cause the system to build up pressure, and at acceleration the system will switch to a 2nd solenoid with a full flow rate with a burst of HHO. I will be posting a ladder diagram of my control system.
FluxCapacitor2008 3 years ago
I ran my 60 plate at 110Volts DC at 6 Amp's and I got about 3-6 LPM of gas.
My plane is to run an automated delivery system, the system will turn on with the key and if the controller sees oil pressure a timer will time out, this will give the o2 sensor time to heat up and give time for the HHO to flow. At this point the EFIE o2 control will adjust the motor to run lean.
FluxCapacitor2008 3 years ago
I'd like to see your cell design at 60 plates 110 volts DC (Use a 30amp bridged rectifier) with a small amount of KOH mixed with filtered water and see what the out put will be... I plane on using my 60 plate cell in my auto, with a power inverter to go from 12 volts DC to 110 AC then run that into a 30amp bridged rectifier to turn it back into 110 DC.
FluxCapacitor2008 3 years ago
Laser cut gaskets? I haven't seen such fabrication resources since I saw the Ironman movie. Do you need an assistant, Obewon?
7119flats 3 years ago
beautyfull cell!!
perhaps if you use KOH as electrolite, you will get better production of HHO.
jr9098 3 years ago
I have to find where I can get it here in Switzerland and then I will use it. Since I hear everybody is having good results with it I will use it too. Thank you
AMOX
ammanninox 3 years ago
You are my champion!
Water jet, Stainless, "TIME" and you put a
And a lot of thought into the design.
Thank you for sharing!
vulpine61 3 years ago
exellent work i think everyone is following your outcomes i certainly are, have you thought of adding electronics to control the pulse wave? might be worth a go.
keep up the good.
itizmeagain 3 years ago