Demonol: The Fuel of the Future

[Juliusno1776]

Great Work!

[jarrod0987]

I'm currently doing alot of rearch on all forms of alternative energy. I would like to see a future where there was not just 1 solution so that all the various energy vendors would be forced to compete. I have read alot about ethonol from starch/sugar. It's hard to find good articles on ethonol from cellulose and most of those just say it's too expensive. Does anybody know what happened to the leaders of this movement? I'd like more info on how they were breaking down cellulose cheaply.TY =)

[Juliusno1776]

There are two ways I know of that can break down cellulose cheaply. One way is with strong acid, the other with weak acid. It's a hundred plus year old technology. A simple method is being used in Brazil for well under a dollar a gallon cost that can be scaled up or down.

"Alcohol can be a gas" has lots of answers. Please look at my post below for link.

Google "Mister, Can You Spare a Paradigm?"

for another eye opener.

[tculhane]

But of course "the man" will not support folks in the ghetto becoming energy independent, right?

[Juliusno1776]

The man can't stop us now. It's too late and he is too over weight.

[tculhane]

What made you think we were bashing ethanol? Our point in making the video was to show that we could take waste cellulose like grass clippings and turn them into fuel. We fought a hostile administration who said this was not part of the science or vocational eurriculum. Back in 1992 we inner city reformers felt corn based ethanol was ridiculous; we knew we could use urban garbage and waste materials.

[tculhane]

Sorry you didn't like our video daddeo! You are right, the music was too loud, but we teachers and students made it at Jefferson High in South Central L.A. in 1992 and we had terrible equipment. We did not demonize ethanol -- we believed in it and we worked on car conversions until we got threatening letters from the Cal Energy Commission and had to shut down the project.

[Juliusno1776]

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[TheBerserker50]

@tculhane I can;t believe htis man.... these people are out of hand and we must break laws and dismantle these pathetic, controlled and regressive systems....now... Fk cal energy and ???? .... beautiful teachers rant...speech. we must seriously start breaking these systems and groups down...collectively and .... NOW.

[daddeo01905]

I take ethanol seriously, and I'm not sure what good watching this video was. It seemed like a bash ethanol video. I liked what the teacher was saying, this could have been a positive video about urban low income people producing their own fuel. But ethanol was demonised and made fun of in this video. Paying over $2.50 per gallon for gas is not a joke when you have a low income. Get serious.

The music in the video was too loud to hear the converations.

[greyflcn]

No Ethanol. No Hydrogen.

In 2008 new catalytic converters have made Diesel cars legal in all 50 states.

Diesel Jetta is comprable to a Prius in mileage

However in the longer term, we should go Electric

greyfalcon. net/ electriccars.png

Nice part is, even if we run our cars on Coal electricity, it's still greener than a Prius

(Coal is about 3x worse than Natural Gas)

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Whats more, electricity for cars can be bought for as cheap as 1 cent per mile.

[EVERYONEHATESiFlickx]

greyflcn, im sorry but your not thinking outside the box. my uncle in france works for a man how made formula 1 cars, and now, he creating air powered cars, and there are ALREADY a few concept cars. Air pressure, piping, carbon fiber, and an engine that weighs 5 pounds is what are future cars are going to be made of, and most of all-its going to be running of of AIR, REAL AIR, the same damn air we breathe. type in youtube " air powered car " (my uncle is at 1:11 in the video)

[greyflcn]

Well thats nice.

But frankly the air is merely just a surrogate for an electric battery. And it's considerably less effecient than battery storage.

And the idea with it being that "OMG electric batteries can't charge fast enough"

Well, thats just not true, electric batteries can charge within minutes.

greyfalcon. net/ quickcharge

greyfalcon. net/ quickcharge2

greyfalcon. net/ quickcharge3 (1 minute charge for 80% refill)

[badboyofscience]

hey plz is the part 2 of demonol fuel out if it out plx i will like to watch it