SC2 HotS new baneling upgrade -Blizzcon 2011

[yoshichanGAF]

This won't be in multiplayer. If you think it'll be implemented, then you are a moron.

[Clatterpinch]

@yoshichanGAF It's already been confirmed.

You're a fucking moron.

[yoshichanGAF]

@Clatterpinch No, it's not.

You're a fucking moron.

[clavarnway]

@yoshichanGAF Of course it will be, all the things they revealed at Blizzcon are intended for multiplayer. That doesn't mean they can't edit or remove it after testing.

[uchiha716]

That Movement Speed Looks.... "Fake"

[SilenceStabber]

It's good against those turtle terran players...

[djwood84]

This won't make it in. This was something they were toying with before people like Leenok showed them the power of burrowed bangs. Not needed, won't make it into multiplayer anyway.

[ilyktosk8]

im pretty sure this is going to be toned down for a reason

[48tank]

Holy speed !

[Protossbox]

Look at that fcking movement speed its ridicolous! That shit what kentliu writed about 2 base is also shit zerg wants to have good economy and it means more than 2 bases they gonna nerf shit out of these

[wontonloogie]

people saying you nust need to get 1 raven with your army are missing the point. How many times have we seen baneling landmines that marines are just lucky enough to pass by far enough away, now the zerg just moves them under the marines if he even gets close. Not to mention the harrass potential this gives. Even if they are burrowed and you have a turret its not going to show up on your minimap when they roll into your expo

[LostRequiem777]

@wontonloogie Legitimately one missile turret and one siege tank. :/

[NEMESIS1999]

Did you hearthe music on the background?So similar do Diablo 3.

[911shortee]

Hey terran, you still wanna be able to wall? simple solution...build a detector with your wall! turret behind the rax? why didn't I think of that? oh wait...

[MostazalsLord]

Op? QQ? Just get ONE raven: problem solved. With all the dt rushers these days, spreading their dts and running away from scans, you should really stop wasting energy on that temporal detection (which could be used on MULES), and get the friggin' mobile detector. Protoss and zergs don't complain when terrans send a couple of banshees behind our mineral lines, we just get an obs/seer aa, get rid of the cloaked units and move on. And it's hive tech... what else could you possible ask?

[NaokiKatakura]

everyone freaking out over how op this is has to realize that this is HIVE tech.  The only window where this is really "overpowered" in a straight up fight by the slightest is if the zerg rushes to hive which will really punish the zerg later on. By the time a regular zerg gets to hive tech, the opponent should have plenty of detection. imo, the DT or banshee are much more powerful than burrowed banelings.

[MostazalsLord]

@NaokiKatakura Idk man... banelings can wipe out enire armies of marines in the blink of an eye whereas other units such as banshees and dt's take way more time than this (they got no splash damage).

[NaokiKatakura]

yeah they'll be OP if your opponent is going mass marines without detection in the late game. If you scout this, it'll be no problem dealing with burrowed banelings, just get a raven, a handful of missile turrets, and go heavy mech. There are counters to every unit in the game, and it's stupid to go around saying x is overpowered to y because it counters it.

[MostazalsLord]

@NaokiKatakura Agreed.

[DurNizzle]

its a tier 3 upgrade, should be fine most people should have detection by tier 3 this is no different then banshees or dark templars

[archlorddestin]

I dunno, this might be op or it might not.

Since its hive tech, it won't be for stopping early game pushes.

It might actually force a raven, which is never seen in TvZ

[yummyorangefinch]

I wonder if they will have an autodetonate function on the banelings to blow up when something comes near. If not it'll be close to the same as having banelings burrowed right now, you'll have to be watching them to be able to blow them up where the army is, it's just a little more likely to work because you can follow them a little if you are going to miss the detonation.

[trekwars101]

That totally fucks up every build in the game and makes you put more tanks and dectors.... so overpowered even though i am a zerg player

[kentliu]

@trekwars101 dude, an expansion is suppose to fuck up every build. And this is a hive tech upgrade, so it doesn't affect anything till late game

[Yottskry]

@trekwars101 it seems bigger then it is. How often do you get an infestor in terran base now? Or even underneath his army? Bet you are not even trying cause you ll lose it to a tank shot in a moment. Borrowed movement is not as op as everyone thinks.

[UnholyOneToo]

@trekwars101 sure U R a zerg player, mr chobo terran

[bobyjane1234]

that is bs, they wont make banelings being to move while burrowed, if so this game will lose its credibility so fast.

[EtharealBTB]

@bobyjane1234 Or build a Raven?

[GamingPnP]

What.. the.. fuck..

[raiynen]

To everyone bitching about bling speed. If you hadn't noticed, the blings had the speed upgrade. Upon burrowing I'm almost certain that said upgrade will become ineffective as they won't be rolling under the dirt.

[336forlife]

Yay a way to punish marines only. I know for a fact they won't be that fast tho.

[RPBiohazard]

I play zerg, and DO NOT WANT.

[McsTarget]

@RPBiohazard if you did play zerg you would want so nice try terran

[keremcantarhan]

@McsTarget Im also a zerg and this is OP as hell

[steezemsbaby]

This will be strong against all races you fuckin zergs. Even yourself. Run 25 of these undetected and kill an expansion with workers. This will even piss off ZvZ. So OP especially at that burrowed speed.

[astmapiippu]

Because it needs Hive tech there should be no problem. I dont think its op, not more OP than banshees or dts.

[Joku2kSkenenkovin]

You dont see often terran going for Raven in TvZ because zerg doesnt have that many burowed units, this forces terrans get a raven on their deathball. Simple as that.

[nickm34456]

this better cost 5000 minerals and 400000000 gas, or else its op...like badly

[AArsenalMark]

@nickm34456 Alternatively build 1 raven.

[ForgottenMemoryLost]

@nickm34456 its hive tech which means it takes like 15 mins to get lol

[nickm34456]

@ForgottenMemoryLost lol, im not bronze I know what that means, anyways even then thats fucking OP, cuz that means no matter what your gonna have to have at least one raven per army, your gonna have to have a bajillion turrets and its just gonna suck, but im positive theyll either take it out or change it, well see though

[ForgottenMemoryLost]

@nickm34456 as terran you'll only need 1 raven with your army and 1 turret at each main entrance and a tank. Turret will detect and tank will kill the tunneling banelings.

Also you can see burrowed units when they move the same way you can see cloaked its subtle but you can still see them.

[nickm34456]

@ForgottenMemoryLost not if you split your army as your moving out...only bronze-play do that

[Armalizilto]

WOL: Zerg not OP.

Protoss not OP.

Terran not OP.

HOTS: Zerg is ludicrous!

Protoss is ridiculous!

Terran is crazy!

LOTV: Zerg, Protoss, Terran. I do not speak of that yet.

[SesakaGenX]

Awesome! That way I'll plan where to place my Baneling mines without the opponent knowing where I have them.

[dustynutz406]

have to agree with dude.. unless that upgrade is like the cracking. its way to strong.  not just against terrans either.

[yemack]

this is going to break the game.

if they move underground like how creep tumor does, it might make sense.

or they can only move very short distance.

[antasaur]

@yemack just get detection....... and its unlocked at hive tech

i swear the rothchilds might be right about eugenics if people keep being this stupid

[mannymarkful]

this will give nightmares to t´s and p`s i think w/ hots its finally time to switch race bacause terran become way to difficult to play on high level

[Drako377]

This needs to be hive tech if their going to do that, like zergling attack speed, thats just too ridiculous, I mean, forget the, use it to bomb the enemy army, any good player will have detection, but even just ONE of these things will force protoss to make cannons, or zerg to have a detector / spine crawler and terran to have SOMETHING near their mineral line, you get 2 burrowed banelings in there without them noticing, and you just won the damn game. lol econ damage ftw...

[D4V3Z02]

@Drako377 it is hive tech. And Hydralisk speed too.

[Drako377]

@D4V3Z02 oh hey bringing back hydra speed, bout damn time, fuckers are slow as hell off creep x.x lol

[rctwik]

Woahwoahwoahwoah I didn't expect them to move that fast.. I have trouble with banelings as it is... -.-

[wimpykid131]

OP...

[PWNJoker]

I think they will change it to queen-like speed D:

[Fireszz]

13 years ago was the age of op terran. But at last we have evolved burrow move for banelings so they will never be op ever again.

[cojosao616]

+1 Missile Turret

Win

[Shinkizee]

Its hive tech plenty of time of a raven and turrets

[xzjatx]

How fast was that movespeed? O.o

[MrRicardoChango]

Lol, I'm a Zerg player, and I really think this is waaaaay too OP. Imagine a bunch of marines just parked in the middle of the map, ready to attack... no Ravens, as usual (terrans usually rely on scan for detection). Just move your banes in there... GG. Not even need to fungal them, with this kind of stuff xD

Either they remove this ability, make them move really slow or... a lot of terrans are going to QQ like hell

[kentliu]

@MrRicardoChango That style of pushing is really a mid game push. Late game TvZ often involves turrets with the push. Plus, investing in a raven is not too much to ask for by the time zerg gets hive tech.

I can see this being good for allowing builds like 2 base straight into hive tech to use burrowed banelings to control map, then into expansions and other tech. Considering that the infestation pit can be used for both viper and hive tech, while can potentially allow zerg to defend till hive

[Twistinge]

@MrRicardoChango Now Terran finally need to get a Raven.

[Zeadro1]

@MrRicardoChango Even if you are a zerg player you have to realize where your logic is false. All a terran has to do is get one starport with a tech lab easy. Not only that, but they can put turrets up anywhere and scan added plus, the radar that scv's can put up so either way even if the units are burrowed it's not like it will be easy for the zerg player to get anywhere. Also, marines are just about the most OP thing there is in the game. Terran needs to be nerfed more I think.

[flipsy87]

@MrRicardoChango lol terrans dont qq they find a way to beat it, z and p players whine the most and they're the ones getting the best buffs

[Spoogymcgee]

@MrRicardoChango

Obliviously the meta of the game will be different in HotS and the Terran army wont move out until they have a few Ravens. Also with the new units to Terran they maybe more inclined to go mech rather then bio which makes banelling not the best option to go.

[MSTKsg]

@MrRicardoChango why do you think terran playstyles won't change when HotS comes out?

[D4V3Z02]

@MrRicardoChango it isnt op because it is T3

[Wolferenful]

@MrRicardoChango I would love to see Zerg OP for the release of HotS :)

Terran tears will be delicious as fuck :)

[electronikita]

@MrRicardoChango Oh look

"I am a gold legue zerg" guy again.

[TylerHyperFace]

@MrRicardoChango

BUT JUST THINK OF IT!

"No Ravens as usual"

TERRAN WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO THINK NOW!

NO MORE DOWN-SYNDROME! IT'S THE MOST BRILLIANT WAY TO GET TERRAN TO ACTUALLY USE THEIR BRAIN!

I might actually start being.. PROUD of them :']

[McsTarget]

@MrRicardoChango Let terran QQ they have been OP the entire life of SC2 so it's about time they let anouther race have a chance

[sundaysorrow]

@MrRicardoChango

Terran marine. OP... this fixes some of the Terran bias.

[LostRequiem777]

@MrRicardoChango They can QQ all they want. Terran will bitch because they have to have detection. "ZOMG I LOST CUZ I DONT KNOW HOW TO BUILD A TURRET." seriously.

[48tank]

@MrRicardoChango i think they are going to make it slow:/ but be honest..... this is stll awsome xD

[BengoManiff]

@MrRicardoChango terran has like 4 ways to detect, where other races have 2, and terran didn't ever even need to have a permanent detection. and i if you have 100 marines "parking" somewhere on the map, in the late game -where you can only get this baneling upgrade- you already should have been punished twice for being that bad with an easy race as terran! :/

sorry but i can't here the "oh my god the poor terran" comments anymore. anyway, gl hf maybe we'll meet in sc2 ;)

[UnholyOneToo]

@MrRicardoChango stfu bronze terran

[wtao015]

What !?

[njdcknsn]

What??

[Terminatification]

shit banelings move fast! I really think that needs to be nerfed a tad, and this is coming from a zerg player.

[JOBOB335]

@Terminatification it really doesn't :P its not that hard to get detectors

[MrHohochow]

terran's worst nightmare was the baneling.

only this just made it hell

[danglingdouchebag]

haha, finally , the end of turtle terrans is over.

[Digifier]

@danglingdouchebag

We HAVE to turtle, especially against Zerg...

[Kayyyleb]

@Digifier

Lolwut. If we turtle we get steamrolled. Are you silver or something?

[MarioBrosClassic]

@danglingdouchebag the end of turtle terrans.....is over? so turtle terrans are back?

[q8Pally]

@danglingdouchebag Missle turrets :3

[Contaika]

@danglingdouchebag The END of turtle terrans is OVER...?

[BeanXPFoX]

@danglingdouchebag if the end of turtle terrans is ending, does that mean a new era of turtle terrans beginning???

[PharaChris]

@BeanXPFoX no, he'll turtle up to hide from that new era.

[NaokiKatakura]

@danglingdouchebag one missile turret -> problem solved

[Gaga4Parma]

Haha amazing...