I remember getting lost once when I went to watch a reenactment event being set up, then I walked into a glade in the middle of a thick forest and almost fell into a trench filled with Germans. Was one of the spookiest situations I've ever been in. None of the guys actually spoke English and it was really intense and pretty frightening. Wasn't even one of the guy's mobile phones went off that I remembered what year I was in.
Where was this event? I've been in the hobby for a year now doing infantry and am doing glider for D-day in conneaut Ohio and and am planning on doing airborne and need some events to do.
@zionistboy First of all, I'm American and I'm also a very proud Jew and a Zionist.
The United States was not in WWII to "save the Jews;" we were in this war to defeat Nazi Germany.
There is a famous movie called "Saving Private Ryan" that partially revolves around a mother that has lost three of her four sons in The War
If Mrs. Ryan had felt that her sons had died because American resources were re-directed to save the Jews, all hell would have broken loose in this country and justifiably so
I have a friend that does the First World War; he and his buddies re-enact the 27th Division; they've done The History Channel. In fact, if you have the Theodore Roosevelt 2-DVD set, you can see them as they re-enact Teddy's funeral.
Also, please remember that in WWI the 82nd was an infantry division whose most famous member was Alvin Cullum York, the most decorated US WWI soldier.
HOW AND WHERE DO I DO THIS!? this seems so fun. I live in western NY and i play airsoft but this looks so much better...where do i get weapons/uniform?
hey i need help with the rencment thing i dont now where to get the airborne costum or the boots or weapons i dont have anything i want to start renacting
@Airborne488 Try At the Front or World war Two impressions for the clothing....the M-1 other weaps can be picked up here and there.....WARNING with the interest in Reenacting the prices for WW2 weapons have gone up considerably hopfully a family member will will you a Garand or carbine
As a So. Cal. 82nd WWII LHA member, this is a fun vid to watch. I wish we had event on this level. Camp Roberts is very cool, but is not a "European" setting, mor like N. Africa or Sicily.
@foist101 well milsim just means Military Simulation, Which is waht these guys are sorta doing, They can try to get them but probaly have to go through a lot of paper work
@foist101 I could also be wrong, but i dont see why Shells with less powder and paint in capsels can be only for the military but idk, the military is weird with what they allow civilians to use
i know there real weapons, just wanted to know if they shot blanks of paint rounds, thanks for answering, one more thing how do they know when they got shot, i have always wanted to know
where a how can i get in to this i have a friend who would be tickled pink to be invalved in this so would i he is majur russian fanatic i am more of german or japanese
@goodstuffbunny READ THE TITLE!!!!!!! reenactment! do u fking think in ww2 they had cameras like this that is a good quality picture with colour on!? ur a freaking idiot
@goodstuffbunny Wow do you really thing they would have these good of camera and sound in WWII? And why the hell would they film it, they would be worried about getting shot not filming something to put on youtube! The only cameras they had in WWII had super bad sound qualitly and were black and white!
if i ever do a reenactment i wanna be the guy who goes psycho with a flamethrower(i dont know how you can use it in one but o well) then get my legs gunned off by a 42 then crawl back to friendly lines
It seems that in this line of work, for every one person portraying an 82nd paratrooper there's about four 101st. Is this because of Saving Pvt Ryan, Band of Brothers, Brothers in Arms and its polarity etc?
This event is hosted by the 508th from the 82nd AB. The 101st guys are from the 501st. They are really outnumbered here 2:1 (i.e. for every 101st guy, there are 2 82nd AB guys). 82nd was the better unit anyway, right?? ;-)
the realism of the uniforms and the weapons is first class. however, it seems rather uneventful to use blanks. even though i have no idea how else you would do it and still keep the authentic ww2 weapons. maybe they could do it with live ammo and put it on pay per view. maybe? haha
Friend, "Uneventful" is not one of the adjectives we use to describe these tacticals. They are very intense. Night battles are nuts and early dawn raids can be dangerous and thrilling. Bored is not an option.
Bub, These are real guns. Blanks can kill. So we don't f around with repros. Garands can be found everywhere. Be ready to spend $1g and you'll be all set.
Hey there, after viewing you video I have really started looking into the reenactment scene. I've always been intrigued by the Paratroopers during WWII and I already have all my gear set up. The only thing is I've been trying to find a weapon, I've looked into M1 Garands and the Thompsons, but all I can find is non firing replicas. Where can I find a WWII replica that will have a functioning clip so I can fire blanks? Thanks.
They are all bunched and firing with out even aiming!!! If you are going to have a paratrooper impression at least do it right!!! Also standing on the road with no perimeter defence! Cowboys!
@ 0:30, the left middle guy, that is the exact same combat uniform I want to own. Airborne chin strap, burlap-esque helmet camouflage, etc etc. American WWII paratroopers just look so bad ass. :P
I know man the scrim is fuckin awesome,I want rigger pouches and a rigger modified jumpsuit.Its just those small things that make the impression great
Nice vid, but one thing, I don't understand. Why at here lot of fat people? Its not reallistic, 'cause fat man can't be paratrooper :/
TheOriginalUbul 3 months ago
@TheOriginalUbul Lol, I know what you mean. Still, it's an reenactment. ;) To say people with some weight can't join is simply unfair.
BonsaiEternity 2 months ago
These things are pretty surreal.
I remember getting lost once when I went to watch a reenactment event being set up, then I walked into a glade in the middle of a thick forest and almost fell into a trench filled with Germans. Was one of the spookiest situations I've ever been in. None of the guys actually spoke English and it was really intense and pretty frightening. Wasn't even one of the guy's mobile phones went off that I remembered what year I was in.
leeham991 5 months ago 2
@leeham991
Even -> until* sorry
leeham991 5 months ago
Where was this event? I've been in the hobby for a year now doing infantry and am doing glider for D-day in conneaut Ohio and and am planning on doing airborne and need some events to do.
ronaldweasleyfan55 5 months ago
What Tactical is this, and will there be another one? Id like to look into maybe bringing my unit down to it.
107thXMedical 6 months ago
farb he has a 4 riv hanguard in 6-44
bargunner18 7 months ago
Where did you get the M1 Carbine in Paratrooper Version?
predator5861 7 months ago
@ferdockm where can you find these places with WWII reenactments it would be an honor for me to join once i go to the US in the future
SkyJ5 8 months ago
@MajorLeaguelnfidel most of us are in the real army or Marine Corps. i would stick talking about what you know if i were you son.
edttex 9 months ago
GODAMNIT, that fatty follows me on every reenactment vid 0:18 ....
cuzgandalfgothigh99 9 months ago
1:54 Dude lost his lunch xD
Dylanjraub 10 months ago
@MajorLeaguelnfidel LOL!!!!
TheEvilAmerican 10 months ago
when you shoot someone, usally they die or fall. lol. get mowed down with a machine gun and fall forward. nice guns
thepopcorn00 10 months ago
So they wanted to capture some german CP? German Pedobear wasn't amused bout this, i gues
MrAnalpfropfen 11 months ago 2
Go to atthefront
ferdockm 11 months ago
Its from Silence of the Lambs
ferdockm 11 months ago
where the hell do i get your guns
whatsup89100 11 months ago
Logan1988 when i did a civil war reanacting the superior officer said 4 months i you were born one of those months you died
whatsup89100 11 months ago
lol wtf was that at the end.I didn't know what they were saying but I laughed my butt off.
sarge958 11 months ago
area looks like europe XD greetings from germany saxony
HipHopNobby 1 year ago
where did you get the gear? just the bags i got the rest
Survivorgroup1 1 year ago
Where can you do WWII reenacting in SoCal?
I am a Civil War Reenactor, but I want to be a WWII reenactor now
robloxace 1 year ago
What makes the man there with the cap? At 2:00.
FRN3hBFx 1 year ago
@zionistboy First of all, I'm American and I'm also a very proud Jew and a Zionist.
The United States was not in WWII to "save the Jews;" we were in this war to defeat Nazi Germany.
There is a famous movie called "Saving Private Ryan" that partially revolves around a mother that has lost three of her four sons in The War
If Mrs. Ryan had felt that her sons had died because American resources were re-directed to save the Jews, all hell would have broken loose in this country and justifiably so
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
I have a friend that does the First World War; he and his buddies re-enact the 27th Division; they've done The History Channel. In fact, if you have the Theodore Roosevelt 2-DVD set, you can see them as they re-enact Teddy's funeral.
Also, please remember that in WWI the 82nd was an infantry division whose most famous member was Alvin Cullum York, the most decorated US WWI soldier.
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
Pretty cool, But not very professional...
Jester2K11 1 year ago
@Jester2K11 who cares is is a nice video
xxjuanchox 1 year ago
HOW AND WHERE DO I DO THIS!? this seems so fun. I live in western NY and i play airsoft but this looks so much better...where do i get weapons/uniform?
nyclaybreaker 1 year ago
are those blanks? what if you forget and accidentally leave real bullets in your gun lmao
BowToMySkill 1 year ago
WOW, typical hip firing band wagon of brothers
Oggie389 1 year ago
I want to get into this stuff so bad :/
zombiehunter96 1 year ago
hahahah that screaming german xD rofl
VincentOwnsYouu 1 year ago
hey cool video dude....u with 82nd or 101st....and do u do Reading PA
hockey37lax14 1 year ago
hey there guys hows you doen?
OzzyJ0 1 year ago
you need to get friends bet you were all nerds at school
australianredneck 1 year ago
82nd or 101st? Wich one do you prefer?
IdidRaysMother 1 year ago
@zionistboy Well Holy Mt. Zion, Batman! It's a uninformed nim-rod!
ferdockm 1 year ago
1:52 = WORST combat decision I have ever seen.
nikkholai 1 year ago
hey i need help with the rencment thing i dont now where to get the airborne costum or the boots or weapons i dont have anything i want to start renacting
Airborne488 1 year ago
@Airborne488 Where do you live? Where did you lern to spel?
ferdockm 1 year ago 13
@ferdockm I agree with him how do you get involved with these re enacments?
stawaz 1 year ago
@ferdockm lol apparently no where
coolstuff691 1 year ago
@ferdockm u dont own the right to tell others where they learnd to spell when you cant even spell learn right
kjetil297 10 months ago
@ferdockm i wonder also where can i get these costumes and stuff?
cuzgandalfgothigh99 9 months ago
@Airborne488 Try At the Front or World war Two impressions for the clothing....the M-1 other weaps can be picked up here and there.....WARNING with the interest in Reenacting the prices for WW2 weapons have gone up considerably hopfully a family member will will you a Garand or carbine
usselliot76 1 year ago
@Airborne488 "what price glory" has good prices and good gear, "at the front" is also a good site for repro gear.
95BASfilms 9 months ago
it wasn't a game, you dicks!
Ilikeordontlikevideo 1 year ago
For all of you who are fans-Play the Brothers In Arms PC game.
Its based on the 82nd and the 101st,ad based on a true story,and even has a level
where you fight on hill 30!
Based on a true story!
supererlich 1 year ago
at 0:54 does that guy have a MG 42?
BobStormtooper 1 year ago
@BobStormtooper Yes, captured.
ferdockm 1 year ago
@BobStormtooper that was an mg34
MrMatiasman 1 year ago
How do you decide if youve been hit if your firing blanks?
Logan1988 1 year ago
@Logan1988 it's on the honor system. Which usually means unless your target sees you, or a judge tells him, he won't take his hit!
ferdockm 1 year ago
@ferdockm Honor system eh? Personally, I'd follow it, but I bet a LOT don't, espeically the younger guys.
PFCPEDERSON 1 year ago
@ferdockm You guys should invest in those chalk rounds the military uses nowadays for training exercises
Sanctity2112 10 months ago
@ferdockm So is there a guy monitoring to see if you get hit?
666krypt0nit3 9 months ago
@ferdockm sounds fun!! u Wanna do it!!!
TheScottGordon 6 months ago
Very nice uniforms. Thumbs up for Airborne !
Sorrythat111 1 year ago
As a So. Cal. 82nd WWII LHA member, this is a fun vid to watch. I wish we had event on this level. Camp Roberts is very cool, but is not a "European" setting, mor like N. Africa or Sicily.
SYBEX21 1 year ago
Is this at Torrance?
driftingfocus 1 year ago
@driftingfocus Yup. The next event is this November, 2010
ferdockm 1 year ago
how do the guns work?
shawdowseaker 1 year ago
@shawdowseaker They are real; blank adapted
ferdockm 1 year ago
is this in California? i want to start Reenacting .
modeyman101 1 year ago
@modeyman101 Nope, outside Pittsburgh, PA
ferdockm 1 year ago
@modeyman101 Nope, Johnstown, PA
ferdockm 1 year ago
where did u get the M1A1 carbine, we cant find any of those!!!
153masterchief 1 year ago
@153masterchief They are pretty common if you live in the USA.
ferdockm 1 year ago
@153masterchief They are pretty common if you live in the USA.
ferdockm 1 year ago
how are you supposed 2 kno if you got killed...whats the point of shooting blanks at eachother
PATINHISWHITET 1 year ago
@PATINHISWHITET
The point is to get as close and realistic to the real thing as possible
JessesWarMovies 1 year ago
this would be cool if people were actually killed lol
PATINHISWHITET 1 year ago
@PATINHISWHITET
Cool? Yeah I'd like to see you say its cool when your guts and liver are pouring out onto the ground.
JessesWarMovies 1 year ago
chalk one more up for the bandwagon of brotehrs. What does everyone have against straight leg infantry.
phantom12321 1 year ago
@phantom12321 I hear you. We only do 28th ID PANG now.
ferdockm 1 year ago
@ferdockm Cool, I do The Hampshire Regiment, His Majesty's Army. Where you lads out of?
phantom12321 1 year ago
@phantom12321 Friend, We are outside of Phialdelphia, PA. Where are you from?
ferdockm 1 year ago
@ferdockm We're based in and around Chicago.
phantom12321 1 year ago
how do you know when you are hit
501joshb 1 year ago
i believe they plan it out and they go over it then when in action they can be "hit"( i dont mean they rehearse they just know according to the plan
NoscopeProdigyx 1 year ago
i think it would be better if they used milsim rounds
501joshb 1 year ago
@501joshb Unfortunately they can't use milsim rounds because, well, the name says it all. They are only available to military personnel.
foist101 1 year ago
@foist101 well milsim just means Military Simulation, Which is waht these guys are sorta doing, They can try to get them but probaly have to go through a lot of paper work
501joshb 1 year ago
@501joshb I thought they were restricted to military for training and such (IE Special Ops Mission on Military Channel) but i could be wrong.
foist101 1 year ago
@foist101 I could also be wrong, but i dont see why Shells with less powder and paint in capsels can be only for the military but idk, the military is weird with what they allow civilians to use
501joshb 1 year ago
hey, can anyone tell me how a tactical battle actually works? thanks
JessesWarMovies 1 year ago
1 thing i have always wanted to know, is do they use blanks rounds or paint rounds?
NewImperialGermania 1 year ago
Blanks. These are real weapons, but fitted to shoot blanks.
ferdockm 1 year ago
i know there real weapons, just wanted to know if they shot blanks of paint rounds, thanks for answering, one more thing how do they know when they got shot, i have always wanted to know
NewImperialGermania 1 year ago
Friend, Judges are there to help keep score, call kills, and keep things realistic.
ferdockm 1 year ago
where a how can i get in to this i have a friend who would be tickled pink to be invalved in this so would i he is majur russian fanatic i am more of german or japanese
HewieOfHG 1 year ago
Friend, It depends on where you live because it makes sense to contact someone locally.
ferdockm 1 year ago
@ferdockm Realistically there are no judges in war.
TheCandleBrother 1 year ago
whos the guy at 158?
225honda 2 years ago
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this cant be WW2. IT looks to modern to be WW2.
goodstuffbunny 2 years ago
@goodstuffbunny its just a reenactment of the scene
liquidchicken23 2 years ago
@goodstuffbunny READ THE TITLE!!!!!!! reenactment! do u fking think in ww2 they had cameras like this that is a good quality picture with colour on!? ur a freaking idiot
Tehbarrel 2 years ago 16
@Tehbarrel he is a troll just calm down
NewImperialGermania 1 year ago
Watch some WWII movies, or better yet, read a book (maybe one with pictures) and see for yourself whether it's too modern.
ferdockm 1 year ago
@goodstuffbunny ZOMFG LOL
killajuggaloz5 1 year ago
@goodstuffbunny Wow do you really thing they would have these good of camera and sound in WWII? And why the hell would they film it, they would be worried about getting shot not filming something to put on youtube! The only cameras they had in WWII had super bad sound qualitly and were black and white!
TheGhostHunterVideos 1 year ago
@goodstuffbunny Dumb fuck, Its a REEMACTMENT!
SniperViper5 1 year ago
no duh ice man
worldwarsproductions 2 years ago
what is the guy doing a 1:58
chanctc3 2 years ago
@chanctc3 making sure everyone is being safe.
TheTerminator1 2 years ago
hey just wondering someone...did the airborne ever use jeep caps in combat if they lost their M1-C helmet or something lol?
JessesWarMovies 2 years ago
They would put paper napkins on the heads, that way they could sop up the blood when they took a bullet to the brain.
ferdockm 1 year ago
whers this at?
iceman590444 2 years ago
Johnstown, PA
ferdockm 1 year ago
r they usin blanks?
iceman590444 2 years ago
no they are shooting at each other with real bullets
lol
but to answer ur question yes
=D
incubus9000 2 years ago
i think the end is funny
mikeyut44 2 years ago
if i ever do a reenactment i wanna be the guy who goes psycho with a flamethrower(i dont know how you can use it in one but o well) then get my legs gunned off by a 42 then crawl back to friendly lines
dgenerationx767 2 years ago
haha yeah i dont know how the heck you could pull off a flamethrower blank lol but sounds awesome haha
moviesSJ 2 years ago
fill it with paint or something?
siberianhuskies1994 2 years ago
Compressed air and water. We already have one.
ferdockm 1 year ago
how much would an m1 garand blank fireing rifle go for
subscribe to me
Airborneboy506 2 years ago
alot man, alot
SpiritofVersaille 2 years ago
Garands are around $1000. Put a blank adapter on it for $20.
ferdockm 1 year ago
wat are they shooting?
headshot531 2 years ago
blancs i think
armedfilmmaker 2 years ago
how do u get in this
paintballgunner77 2 years ago
It seems that in this line of work, for every one person portraying an 82nd paratrooper there's about four 101st. Is this because of Saving Pvt Ryan, Band of Brothers, Brothers in Arms and its polarity etc?
Trialbystone17 2 years ago
This event is hosted by the 508th from the 82nd AB. The 101st guys are from the 501st. They are really outnumbered here 2:1 (i.e. for every 101st guy, there are 2 82nd AB guys). 82nd was the better unit anyway, right?? ;-)
ferdockm 1 year ago
Technically, because they had had a head start in combat experience in North Africa, Sicily and Italy.
Trialbystone17 1 year ago
the realism of the uniforms and the weapons is first class. however, it seems rather uneventful to use blanks. even though i have no idea how else you would do it and still keep the authentic ww2 weapons. maybe they could do it with live ammo and put it on pay per view. maybe? haha
emgduncanman 2 years ago
Friend, "Uneventful" is not one of the adjectives we use to describe these tacticals. They are very intense. Night battles are nuts and early dawn raids can be dangerous and thrilling. Bored is not an option.
Great comment.
ferdockm 1 year ago
i'm leaving today as a medic for the 82nd in a reenactment in satesvill N.C.
pyro1a 2 years ago
Is there any unit that gives all the equipment and shit to you??
I wanna do ww2 reenacting so bad, but Im' broke.
Malarkey31 2 years ago
Yes, some reenactment units will lend you some equipment for a year or so.
halostar6 2 years ago
what the hell was that bit at the end?
slashingraven 2 years ago
its a reenactment of post traumatic stress disorder ;)
hurdl3thed34d 2 years ago
Just a little insanity.
ferdockm 1 year ago
Ahh baby im gonna need some more ammo
airborne1940 2 years ago
lols? the last part?LOL
ballyballz 2 years ago
fat amis -.-
FireHawK274 2 years ago
Ahh, but it's not scripted. You are given objectives and a time schedule. Whatever happens happens. Judges help determine who is "dead".
ferdockm 2 years ago
the US had the coolest uniforms of ww2
quest8899 2 years ago 6
@quest8899 Haha :) German had the best uniforms, after them the british.
Cougar545x39 1 year ago
if this is all scripted how r u suppose to know if ur dead or not!???
thekenz13 2 years ago
You just decide if you die or not by your own judgement
airborne1940 2 years ago
their also paintballs... to tell if you've been hit or not
xXArsinityXx 2 years ago
No.Blank firing is a whole different thing to paint ball,obviously,nothing comes out of blank guns.
airborne1940 2 years ago
oh yeah my bad,
sorry, im in canada, the ones that my uncles went to were paintball rifles, well WW2 gun models,with paintball ammo in them :P
xXArsinityXx 2 years ago
@xXArsinityXx Can you tell me how you can put paint ball ammo in a real rifle? Or explain further what you mean. I am curious.
TheCandleBrother 1 year ago
no just blanks you decide if you die but Some people are told to die at a part in the battle
StrikeThrough7 2 years ago
Pretty Much
MobileDjSC 2 years ago
cool and does anyone use ranking in reenactments?
RatedAlex 2 years ago
i just dskghdfkjhghgdfhga in my pants
isaaclaughsatyou 2 years ago
Eih men, when you want do something like this call me. I love this things. It's very, very cool. 5 stars. ***** :D (sorry my english)
Carnbin 2 years ago
i remember brothers in arms road to hill 30. been so long since ive played that game. nice reenactment vid tho!
chicagocubsforever 2 years ago
wow at the end I swear that guy sounded like a faggot Nazi(I know thats an oxymoron)
MadMaxUSVN 2 years ago
Stupid
arigonyzuanoso 2 years ago
Bub, These are real guns. Blanks can kill. So we don't f around with repros. Garands can be found everywhere. Be ready to spend $1g and you'll be all set.
ferdockm 2 years ago
how can blanks kill , nothing kums out of the gun
dubmywub 2 years ago
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if your close to them,it can.
airborne1940 2 years ago
But dont you have to be kinda close for a blank to hurt you? Like the barrel towards the head?
SWEsuger 2 years ago
Hey there, after viewing you video I have really started looking into the reenactment scene. I've always been intrigued by the Paratroopers during WWII and I already have all my gear set up. The only thing is I've been trying to find a weapon, I've looked into M1 Garands and the Thompsons, but all I can find is non firing replicas. Where can I find a WWII replica that will have a functioning clip so I can fire blanks? Thanks.
agse10 2 years ago
when u shoot blanks like this, how do u know if you're hit??!!
SWEsuger 2 years ago
You don't you just have to guess and be honest.
ionking100 2 years ago
nice reenactment 5/5 where did you get the stuff?
wormez45 2 years ago
that looks like fun, where is this?
Barisaxlover 2 years ago
They are all bunched and firing with out even aiming!!! If you are going to have a paratrooper impression at least do it right!!! Also standing on the road with no perimeter defence! Cowboys!
blanch51 2 years ago
what kind of bullets were those?blanks?
Semi12Cal 2 years ago
yup, they are all blank rounds...
Merroppp 2 years ago
Then how do you know if youre hit?
314isabeast 2 years ago
that's a good question
wormez45 2 years ago
I guess u dont...
Merroppp 2 years ago
where can i find a m1 carbine wit extra magizines
98765432123456789987 2 years ago
why does this shit only happen in america? FUCKING WORLD!
CarnifexAaron 2 years ago
@ 0:30, the left middle guy, that is the exact same combat uniform I want to own. Airborne chin strap, burlap-esque helmet camouflage, etc etc. American WWII paratroopers just look so bad ass. :P
foist101 2 years ago 2
Er, sorry I mean around 0:26
foist101 2 years ago
I know man the scrim is fuckin awesome,I want rigger pouches and a rigger modified jumpsuit.Its just those small things that make the impression great
kings8thpvt 2 years ago
lol they do..burlap makes the helmet look even more bad ass so id say im get that with mine too :P
Kidby2 2 years ago
exactly man!i want to own atleast one.bad ass it is
Semi12Cal 2 years ago
were do u get the uniforms?
r3dd1ck 2 years ago
you see em in ww2 magazines and the internet they cost about 20 euro and i saw 1 for 50 they are quite expensive
clubbythe 2 years ago
u can find them online or at surplus stores if u want to know te exact name of all the gear contact me
planb1532190 2 years ago
My Uncle was in 101st Airborne. In vietnam they were called the chicken men
RANDOMCOLLISION 2 years ago
Yeah, because in Vietnam, they did not have a word or definition for eagle, therefore they were called chicken men by the Vietcong and NVA.
Collective122 2 years ago
aaah you watched the military channel
swayer556 2 years ago
wow what a cowinsidince my uncle was to and his name was Jim Davis mayby our unvles new each other
swayer556 2 years ago