IAF to Test Arrow 3 Early Next Year - IAI/IAF Arrow 3 Simulation 27/5/10

[serversss1]

PEACE only works with real human beings and even real animals but not with real human like animals(without fully developed as human beings).Then they should be deleted otherwise they will delete us.

[LOVE2EVERYBODY]

THERE IS MANY JEWS IN YEMEN AND WE ARE LIVING IN PEACE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE COUSINS AND WE RESPECT EACH OTHER....THIS IS MY MESSAGE TO THE PALESTINIAN AND ISRAELI BECAUSE YOU WILL GET................"PEACE OF MIND" ......GREETING FROM YEMEN

[ZionIDF]

God Bless Israel. Time to take out Iran....Go Israel.

[lugerox]

Amazing!

[foxman4455]

GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL!GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL!GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL!GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL!GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL GO ISRAEL!

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

PEPSI = Pay Penny Save Israel ?

what does the E stand for ?

[IsraeliXdude]

@lahavhaelohim It is Pay Every Penny Save Israel :) crack me up each time i read it, Islam--->I Smell Like Ass Monkey, we can play with abbreviation as long as we want :)

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

i doubt you have an Israelian friend.

if you DID have one, you'd know that People from Israel are Israeli, not Israelian.

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and yes, military service is a harsh thing, that often carries with it a lot of stress and pain.

many people DO end up crying during different times in their 3 year service.

its human.

what does that have to do with anything ?

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

i said that frence helped us during the first years of our independence.

everything else was something YOU made up.

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and Companies like Mcdonalds, Coca Cola whatever, do business with us, because its good sense to do business with successful countries with open markets.

they don't pay us.

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you Iranians may not be Arab, but you have the exact same mindframe.

you think with your balls rather then your brains, and you never quite figure out that being self sufficient =/= prosperous

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

the Arabs we're helped by the USSR.

didn't do much for them.

we we're helped at first by France during our early years.

but since we're awesome, we made actual use of it.

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P.S

the UK was instructed by the League of Nation to establish our "regime" there.

they said very clearly.

the arabs are getting 22 countries, so its time the Jews get one too.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

we were kicking the arab worlds collective ass by ourselves a full decade before the US ever started to give us any kind of support.

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the reason we don't attack you is something you might not be able to figure out.

we don't WANT to attack you

we don't WANT pointless wars

if it wasn't for your ass-hole of a president who keeps talking about wiping us off the map, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

you are the ones picking the fight, not us.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr I did look at it read my comment regarding it. . as for my "3rd world country" you do know that Israel is the 4th largest exporter of Arms in the world right ? and that while we don't make complete platforms (other then our MBT) what we specialize in is extremely high tech combat systems. in other words, the US make the fighters. then Israel takes those fighters and makes then 100% more effective by adding our own systems to them. . you've got a long way to go before matching us.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

the saeghe and toofan are both copies of the Northrop F-5.

3rd gen fighters that are a full two generation behind what the US has, and 1.5 generations behind what Israel has.

in other words, you've managed to produce a copy of a jet that went out of service in the US in the early 80s.

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and for a fun side note, Israel also used to produce Fighters of that same generation (the Kfir)

but we did it 30 years ago, back when 3rd gen fighters were still impressive.

you're 30 years behind.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

no amount of changes you make for your planes would make the actual platform better.

and the saeghe & toofan are nothing more then modified F-5s.

if you want to know what REAL upgrades look like, you should see what WE did to our planes.

and Israeli F-15I or F-16I can lock on to a target regardless to its position and our fighters can't be targeted.

in 2007 we flew through syrian air defenses like they weren't even there.

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what stealths fighters do passively, we do actively.

[lahavhaelohim]

and the H-3 attack wasn't an air battle.

you just bombed targets on the ground because you pulled off a successful sneak attack.

when WE did something like that (six day war) we destroyed over 400 planes in 3 different countries.

you managed to destroy 48 aircraft.

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our operation made H-3 look like a joke.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

your air force is actually WEAKER today then it was when you went to war with Iraq.

back then you had 79 F-14's and your phantom and F-15 fighters we're still considered good.

now you have a few dozen Mig 29, 24 Mirage F1s, and less then 20 operational F-14's (using 40 year old missiles) as actual modern combat aircraft.

thats not an impressive figure, especially when compared to Israel's

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Israel has over 350 F-16s and over 100 F-15s.

and in a few years we'll have the F-35.

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[lahavhaelohim]

@lahavhaelohim

i ment your F-5, not F-15 (you don't have any).

back then planes like the phantom and F-5 were still considered impressive, but today they can't hope to deal with the modern fighters.

which means that your air force is severely limited as far as ACTUAL capabilities.

Saddams air force was much stronger during desert storm, and the Western fighters just plowed through it like its not even there.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

you mean you managed to make a NATO fighter land in Iran ?

thats very impressive.

know what WE did the last time our air force was involved in an all out air battle (it was with Syria in 1982)

we shot down 82 Syrian fighters in 3 days while suffering no losses of our own.

the event became known as the bakka valley turkey shoot.

and we've upgraded considerably since then.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

i just said that the radar would be destroyed on the first day

hard to gather data when the radar is gone, regardlss to who it transmits data to.

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what we are doing to the Palestinians in NONE of your damn business.

don't stick your nose in our affairs unless you want us sticking our noses in yours.

and as you can see by the 2 hour wait in line for gasoline, our influence is much more considerable then yours.

stay out of our affairs, and we'll do the same.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

whats unrealistic is your thinking that the radar you"re talking about would survive the first hour of any war between Israel and either Syria or Iran.

it would get destroyed immediately.

and if your president didn't keep saying that he was going to wipe us out, we, the US, and the EU wouldn't care about your nuclear program (pakistan has nukes, and no one cares)

if you stick your nose in OUR affairs (arming our enemis) we repay the favor.

"take your position" somewhere else

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

its nice that you think that your radar would survive the first few minutes of any war.

unrealistic, but nice.

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P.S

you keep saying everything as if you expect israel to attack YOU

the only reason why there is any conflict between Iran and Israel is because your ass-hole of a president keeps talking about destroying us all the damn time and keeps sending weapons to our enemies.

if you all stopped threatening us all the time, you wouldn't have to worry about us attacking you.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

what are you going to do ?

drive your army 2000Km through the desert to attack us ?

and of course, countries like or Iraq, Turkey are just going to allow Iran's army to just drive through its territory.

and then you're going to attack us in a place where we have complete air supremacy ?

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grow up.

and the fact that Both Lebanon and Syria are your allies, doesn't mean that they will allow you to use their country as a staging ground.

they don't feel like suiciding for your sake.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

none of which is a problem for ISRAEL.

you don't share a boarder with us, and you're 1000 KM away from us.

the only way you can attack us directly is using Ballistic missiles, and those missiles are too inaccurate to be used as an effective weapon.

the U.S would have a hard to invading Iran, but we don't have any intention of Invading.

if you attack us, we'll simply wipe out half your Oil fields on the first day, then wait to see if you're still stupid enough to keep fighting.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

did you see what we did to Hamas in Gaza.

Hamas is also a student of I.R.G.C, and they didn't fare so well in 2009 did they.

Hezbollah

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plus, a rocket that can be hidden in someone's house, and a 18 meter tall Ballistic missile are not the same thing.

Hezbollah was mostly able to keep firing missiles because they could hide them effectively due to their size (the big missiles we destroyed on the first day)

the bigger the missile, the harder it is to hide.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

1)fins, not fines.

2)there's more to it then just those three factors.

3)the missile isn't going to be operational for a few YEARS

4)you've yet to perfect an effective targetting system, which means that missile can't be aimed with enough effectiveness to be useful as a weapon.

5)the reactor can be shut down.

so the more pressing question is this.

we can move our nuclear material

can you move your Oil fields ?

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

i guess no one ever told you that nuclear reactors can be shut down heh ?

its takes a couple of hours, and all the "hot" materials get taken to secure underground facilities well beyond the reach of any weapon.

its easy to shut dimona down if we think an attack is coming (the arrow buys time to do that)

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but while we're talking Geography, do me a favor.

Google the phrase "Iran Oil Fields" and see the map that comes up...

remember what i said about glass houses.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

oh..

and in case you're wondering.

while you CAN'T actually hit Dimona, we actually DO have the means to hit the busher reactor dead on.

just as we can hit any target in Iran with pin point accuracy.

we have missiles that can actually do this, because we've been developing them decades before you.

so lets review

Iran - missiles that can't be aimed properly, and no missile defense.

Israel - missiles that hit pin point + we have missile defense.

people who live in glass houses...

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

1)During the war with Saddam you had popular support of the people, and thats GONE now

a result of a government that kills its own people.

2)you had some of the most modern US weapons at the time, plus all sorts of Weapons that WE used to sell you, and you still took 8 years without victory.

3)You can't aim the Sajil or Qiam missiles at the City Dimona, much less a specific structure in it.

and if you think it can really avoid radar because of fins, you don't understand radar.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

there is a REASON why real armies don't base themselves around Ballistic missiles with conventional warheads.

they are useless as actual WEAPONS.

you'll have to aim a sheheb 3 missile at a CITY to have a good chance of hitting your target, and aiming at a specific target is well beyond your means.

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i know you all pretend that you are an actual world power, but take a lesson from Iraq.

it took you 8 years to fight an enemy that the US plowed through in a few weeks.

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know your limits

[lahavhaelohim]

as for Israel, you completely missed the point.

Iran has only a few hundred poorly guided Missiles that can reach Israel, and even if each one one actually hits you would still be unable to cause any real damage to the country since you can't AIM at anything important..

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Iraq fired 42 missiles at Israel during desert storm, and only managed to cause one death (an old guy who died from a heart attack).

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you can't raze anything, much less an entire country with all your missiles combined.

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

1) i know people like to talk about how its very small, but its not exactly disneyland.

its got over 20,000 square KM.

Iran can fire its entire missile arsenal, and most people in Israel won't even notice.

2)Israel has 125 fighter jets that have been specially constructed to reach Iran (look up F-15I and F-16I).

each one capable of carrying six 500lb bombs

do the math.

3)the advantage of a small country is it's easier to defend.

just a few batteries can cover the entire country

[lahavhaelohim]

@fekrimr

"what this israely toys ganna work wen 12000 cluster missile in a same time arrives in their small country ??"

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the answer is, of course, raise a couple of dozen F-16I fighter to the air and go turn Iran into a big pile of radioactive glass.

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and 1200 cluster missiles ?

Iran barely has a 100 Missiles that can reach Israel, and isn't even remotely capable of launching them all at once.

any amount of damage Israel suffers would be minimal.

Iran on the other hand, would be destroyed.

[NiteAngel]

o not give any technology to the us obama is not to be trusted he is a sick man

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[KGBMarinaSolodkin]

interesting