The Bulgarian Anthropological View

[chochopav]

ama nau4i se angliiski be skinar4e zagubeno

[TervelBG]

Е ЧАКАЙТЕ МАЛКО ДЕ 80% били с кафява коса, 20% са блондита, а аз кат съм с черна какво съм? Овца? Я си оправете статистиките там.....

[KpEMuKoBcu]

@Sepulec Още по смешното е,че в Румъния живеят най много мангасяри,а тъпака не прави разлика между бели хора и маймуни xD

[BulgarianWildchild]

Bulgarians,finns,germans,danes = blood brothers!

[chortaev]

I must say that a lot of this is true so the statistics are real.What amazes me is that it turns out modern bulgarians are an unique slavic race.Therefore aryan I guess.

[chortaev]

Lets not forget that there are many different types af slavs. A slav is a very general word.Some ancient tribes had very little in common.

[9222homer]

I'm professor and i can say that 95% of bulgarian words are slavic , who says that the % are 40 , lie.

[Jigov]

you lie that you are proffesor too. And i can say as Bulgarian that not 95% of the words are slavic, but not more than 60%. The fact that we use and slavic and iranic word also called synonims.... in the literature, is maybe confusing you.

[Sixb0nes1]

@9222homer ей голем разбирач си значи... нали знаеш, че връзка между език и нация няма ??? те сигурно и латиноамериканците приличат на испанците.. оф Господи, какви хора има ...

[SumerianBul]

@9222homer yeah, ure a professor of british "science", who's never looked @ something other than his own propaganda

[zaimov008]

What is the name of the song?

[peshoman]

Аз например съм със светлокестенява коса и с кафеви очи. Баща ми е с черна коса и синьо зелени очи (пъстри). Майка ми е със сини очи и също като моята кестенява коса. И тримата сме бели хора.

[fcfcgh]

mediteranean race are the biggest part in south italy-greece-bulgaria-spain-po­urtogal-south east romania and fyrom

[fcfcgh]

the racing study says

bulgarian are:

60%mediteranean

20%dinarics

15%alpinid

5%nordic

[Nemmersdorf1944]

Especially the man in 0:08, 0:10 seems to have some nordic parts, not the eye color but the facial features. the other looks like a mixture of slavic and baltic. But are very differnt form Albanians and Jugoslavs from my point of wiew.

[fcfcgh]

lol and you put in the video ugly elements.. there are bulgarian people more beatiful than this!! aaaaaaah yes you are a nazist wo want bulgarian all with light eyes ecc.... you must to accept bularian are mediteranean!! withe race yes but bulgarn aren't how sweden

[fcfcgh]

nemmersdorf in according to you for the difference with albanian and ex yu yes they are more dinaric and bulgarian are more mediteranean.. baltic race there arent in bulgaria but in this video there are only the light people (ninorites not tipiacall bulgarian faces) wo can have a baltic influence

[ImperialGuard9001]

Bulgarians are a little mistery in terms of origin but I am of opnion of larger and most acepted theory that bulgarians were mainly slavs with some bulgars (that in past were like an elite) a smilar thing happen here in Iberia(portugal and spain) were we had population of hispanic-romans that were ruled by gothic-germanic lords the star of feudalism was pretty much germanic lords that ruled a romanized population in time they mix just like the bulgars and the slavs in Bulgaria.

[ImperialGuard9001]

Now the Bulgars origin that is realy mistery I think they were probaly or Finno-Uggric like Magiars or Iranian Origin like Schytians.

[Jigov]

the problem is that Bulgarians were not Minority in 680 When they created the country. That is not true. First there are already proofs for that, and second, if you think logical how 20 000 Bulgarians (like the old komunist book say) can destroy 80 000 tropps and 2000 ships of Byzantion Arm ?? At that time the population of the Bulgarians were about 1 milion total (from the Old Great Bulgaria) and after they split around 150-200 k came here with Asparuh-1/3 + Slavs and Thraks = 3/3

[ImperialGuard9001]

Is Bulgar not Bulgarians suposely Bulgarians are the mixture of the two or more peoples.

That in short made the Bulgarian People but I didnt get what you mean with your comment your english is little rusty xD

[Jigov]

With my comment i wanted to say that its not''Slavs with little Bulgars'' But Bulgars+Slavs+Thraks + others.And it was the first Bulgarian nation around 9 century. But thats Danube Bulgaria.Volga Bulgars mixed with other peoples, but they still keep Bulgar Root and i am happy from that, and i love them as my brothers dont matter Cristians or Muslims, Religion is not importan, but the culture. Religion is... different subject :P

PS:What is rusty :P)

[ImperialGuard9001]

HMM ya thats was what I tougth you said well your english was little rusty but my is too haha

ANyway I dont quite agree with theory because it simply lack of evindences that said doest mean isnt the rigth one to this day the one I said is the most likely but history is science it can changed over day Volga Bulgar kepp their root but they pretty much were Tarterzied werent 80% of them massacred with mongol invasion? Oh ya you think Bulgars are what Turks Scythians other?

[Jigov]

no, i think Bulgarians are Indian.Europian - Iranian group. And i all i said its proofed in the books (not only Bulgarian but Latin,Byzantion,Armenian,India­n,and tec sources) Also Bulgars in Volga were not at 80% Tatarzied. After CCCP was created they started to destroy many nationalities, one of them were Volga Bulgars. They started to present them all as Tatars, but the Tatars were minority (beginning of 20 centuy) and this is 100% PROOFED. I guess blood dont change to water so easy::P

[ImperialGuard9001]

Well the sources for what you claim are pretty obscurse and lacking example are the Byzantines that write all steppe people as Scytians neither the origin being turkish mongolic etc one example was the Bulgar if they were actualy schytian(from iranian stock) or not is left to ones interpretion the evidence doenst back it up

Bulgarians as people are South Slavic that is reason why most schoolars said that Bulgars were minoraty since the language adopted was slavic

[ImperialGuard9001]

Thus one can interpred that most of people were slavs is withod doubt that Bulgarians had slavic ancestors but wich was the actualy Bulgar influence in genes to todays people and their origin we simply dont know if you see the language is pretty much South Slavic so as people Bulgarians are part of Slavs not Iranains that said Slavs are also part of Indo Eurpean people that is linked with Iranic people just a different branch

[Jigov]

wel... yea... we could say it this way.... In the past we were Iranic (and we still are, because we are little darker than Slavs, and not that tall (serbians are taller than us)we dont have that many bright hair and eyes. WE are very mixed, thats the true. if someone tell you that his nation has no mixes so he understand nothing. There is no clean nation. And Slavs and proto Bulgars, and even Thrakians come from the same family .. so it is pointelss... dont you thinnk.

[ImperialGuard9001]

Depends if Bulgars are actualy from same family or not haha. Well I dont think Bulgarians are more darker or have less blond and clair skin but I never went to Bulgaria xD but just the photos I see here they looked pretty european to me.

Yes no nation is "pure" because that would be just silly tougth you could argued that some people isoled during ages are pretty "pure" bascs as example portuguese tougth if the recent genetical proves are wrigth 80% of our genes didnt change since the first

[ImperialGuard9001]

settlers.

[thracianglad]

Dude, if u dont believe these are typical Bulgarian I can send u pics of mine =) Also from my sister and my friends, just PM me ;)

[ImperialGuard9001]

In video I believe they were. Were I say they werent?

[Jigov]

I dont have idea about Portugals, really i dont eve nknow a portugal guy, but i tell you Bulgarians or Bulgars are from Iranic familiy (we have more than 500 words which 100% SAME the pronouncemnt and all with Iranian language, not arabish...)Its a big lie that our language is turkic, we have not more than 200 words from Turci because we were 500 YEARS slaved by them. Our language today is Slavinian+Bulgar+greece+latin mix. turcic words are not more than 1 %.

[peshoman]

Proto Bulgars were indo-european iranian people. We are white people. We are not gypsis.

[guergo]

We have Bulgarian grammar, and 40 percent of the words are not slavs, but bulgarian. We have also slav words, but

[guergo]

But all slavs are affected by bulgarian culture and language. So there also 20 percent of the words, the same with the other slave, but these words have bulgarian origin, not slavianian. Also we have no doubt 40 percent of the words with slavianian origin.

[guergo]

Bulgaria, was the force number one in the past. We create the colture of Kievska Rus, by giving to the russians cirilic apfabet, created from Kliment of Ohrid, also we gve to Kievska Rus ortodox church, and we create russian army. In the same time, volga bulgars was in contact with Tzar Simeon the Great - emperor of Bulgaria. Volga Bulgars said that there are one emperer of the Bulgars of all over the word and that is Tzar Simeon the Great.

[guergo]

Tzar Simeon the Great, send embassedor to Volga Bulgaria. The embassedor tell to Bulgarian emeror, that the volga bulgarians are very strong and very rich and powerfull, and Tzar Simeon decide to rise the Kievska Rus, and inveted kniaz Svetoslav to come to Bulgaria.

[guergo]

Svetoslav come to Bulgaria, and the emperor Simeon give to Svetoslav his sister to be wife of kniaz Svetoslav. Svetoslav return to Kievska Rus, with a couple of bulgarian teachers, church leaders and military specialist, to make and train russian army.

[guergo]

Tzar Simeon The Great, rise the Russian state, and use this country like barrier betwen Danube Bulgaria and Volga Bulgaria, because he was afraid that our brothers volga bulgars will have pretentions by the bulgarian crown. He sow, that Volga Bulgaria is very rich, and powerfull.

[guergo]

In these epoc, volga Bulgars was muslims, and Danubs Bulgars was ortodox.

But Volga Bulgaria and Danube Bulgaria have no doubt non stop relationship with his blood brothers after the and of Bulgarian Empire. Because the people were the same, but diffrent religions. Bulgarians never was no fanatic mohamedans and ortodox.

[Jigov]

@guergo yes that is true. The Danube Couttry is famous with its religous monks and clever people, using religion in its real perpous. Also the Bulgarians from Volga are famous in the Islamic word as "the real muslims" said by the Arabic Historicans.... so Bulgarians are the keeper of the knoweldge. We are not aggresive people, we are very tolerant and respecting others, but ... when we fight... say your prayer..

[RussianBG]

are you trying to say that Tsar Simeon screwed up Volga Bulgaria and made Russia so big :D?

[SumerianBul]

@RussianBG simo got screwd before he reached constantinople ... that's a problem

[TsarSamuil]

Proto-Bulgarians were an iranic tribe that mixed with east slavic tribes (russians) in the Balkans. This so-called research says we don't have 1 drop of slavic blood? wtf that is the most idiotic conclusion ever, stupid nazi "research"

Todays Bulgarian is iranic-eastSlavic fusion, with culture (+ some byzantine), blood, language from both groups. Anyone who says different is a retard.

[IYINFINITIYI]

5505 B.C. Oldest Nation Around the Black Sea coast. 3500 B.C- 2000 B.C the oldest civilization has split and moved. 2000 B.C Thracian-Cimmerian-Scythian population returns to the BulgArian land. Bolg is born and he goes to Bactria. Than they create the greatest empire of the Aryans. Hunor Aria returns in bigger power back to the balkans. Oldest Swastika 6000BC oldest writting, oldest gold, etc. Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes. BogAria Above AllIYIYIYIYIYIYI

[ubiecaaaaaaaaa]

Fuck Hitler and the Nazis

[kybershaman]

@IYINFINITIYI : 5505years before crist (BC) or ad deum (AD) is the moment of the last recalibration of the most precise and punctual time-measuring insdtrument recognized today from unesco - the ancient bulgarian calendar. the calendar, wich gave the know-how to first chinese and japanese calendars, and who is used from enoch - the founder of the most successful european state - 1000years rhome.

[shynizzl]

@IYINFINITIYI

Тва специално си е чиста научна фантастика!

[IYINFINITIYI]

Don't hate that the results makes us part of the real Hunor Aria. Sorry to all posters, but I cannot stand other nations that try to teach us our own history. BogAria=BulgAria=AtlantAria. The two pillers and the one in the middle IYI. Blessed by the oldest civilization that created the swastika.

[iwillbebackin777days]

fuck you idiot. Your freind (Hitler) was killed by Slavs. Your Empire was fucked by slavs. You want to be arians! Bulgars Birth rate: 9.58 births/1,000 population (2008 .) Death rate: 14.3 deaths/1,000 population (2008 .) the-world-factbook you have to breed lol

[freetripin]

Аз съм 1,82м, 79кг, косата ми е кестенява, очите зелени, кожата ми е бяла и не съм обрязън.Можеш ли да ми кажеш нещо за мен? Например, дали обичам да третирам другите лошо, за да се чуствам добре?

[freetripin]

Дали съм от тези, които искат другите да работят вместо тях?или съм от тези, където говорят много, ама работа не вършат? Или не си виждал ти такива "българи".

[freetripin]

Познвам чужденци, където имат по-голямо право да се наричат "българи" заради начина по който третират заобикалящия ги свят без значение как изглеждат.Хванете и пораснете малко, много хора разчитат на това.

[freetripin]

Why is that music on the video? I'm proud Bulgarian and I need to say two things - the Bulgarian culture and understandings are so far away from that "propaganda" here that some people can't even imagine. Second, there are so many beautiful songs from the Bulgarian folklore you can pick from when you are trying to make all these nazi movies, atleast they will hide your true problems.

[freetripin]

Bulgarians are proud people that don't need to feel superior in order to live happy life. We have many ancestors and we are proud that we have alot of their possitive and negative sides, this is who we are and our hope is that soon we will learn something from them rather then from some old fashioned idiologies like the nazi one. Peace out and salute.

[sorin1918]

80% have brown hair and 20% blonds.ok but where you fit the gipsy minority? don't tell me...aaaahhh they are blond hair too,right?

[Machtwille]

This video is dedicated to the Bulgarians, not to the gypsies. The gypsies are not Bulgarians.

[KINGGIBARA]

spa05akw :"2.Since Bulgars were already mixed in Asia and later in Europe -- than of course people loose in time their origin looks and blood."

response:

If we are all mixed so much what is the point of this arguement?!?!?

[Machtwille]

spa05akw получава бан :)

[AreNaKafevo]

хахахахаха ти си комедия бе,шведския комик,лабилен си и анално податлив,нищожество,ти си толкова жалък,че дори не ми е приятно да се гавря с теб,ти си куче умряло!Аз на умряли кучета нож не вадя.Сега умри безмозъчен бавноразвиващ се полу-човек.

[AreNaKafevo]

Мъжка курво, ще ви лоботомирам цялото племе гнусно, а теб ще те оставя да си лъскаш пишката докато гледаш, после ще ви содомизирам и продам за органи ! Мри, получовешка безподобна на себе си, безгръбначна твар ! Жалък си ! Паразит !

[Machtwille]

BGSlopy, по погрешка ти изтрих един от коментарите. Явно ти не си наясно, че да си ариец не означава да си висок 2 метра, да си рус и да имаш сини очи. Това са белези типични за нордическия подтип на арийската раса, но тя си има и много други подтипове. Например при нас Българите преобладава средиземноморският тип.

[KINGGIBARA]

BG Slopy-horata ne pravyat nau4ni izsledvaniya i ne pishat trudoemki knigi, za da moje sravnitelno neinformirani hora kato teb da se izkazvat za istoriyata na Bulgarite, koyato e interesna i mnogo slojna-zatova mnogo izvestni u4eni po celiya svyat se ineresuvat ot neya. Ima izvestna istina po otno6enie na silnite kulturno-etnografski blizosti na Bulgarite sas slavyanite, no po vsi4ko li4i, 4e si mnogo konservativen i ne si pravi6 mnogo trud da 4ete6 nai-novite postijeniya na istori4eskata nauka.

[Mikojan88]

Oba4e kogato ima kniga pone de imam ne6to de ne kazvam 4e go imam ot yt samo.

[Mikojan88]

Ima6 li linka za pro4itane za resultatite na esledvaniata?

[Machtwille]

Търси книгата "Неизменният антропологичен облик на Българите" от Димитър Съсълов.

[Mikojan88]

Malko trudi4ko ot avstria...

[Machtwille]

Thracians and proto-Bulgarians were very similar peoples and there are even historians who say that these are two parts of one and the same people. The Slavic theory for our origin was created by the bulgarophobs in the XIX century and in the times of Communism it was said to be official theory. Here I must mention that the Russians also are NOT Slavs. The Rus tribe from which the Russians come was a Viking tribe, it's 100% prooven!

[pugnusFerum]

yes, they call themself Russians becouse Vikings made first slavic country in eastern Europe. But they are slavs...

ZDS

[spa05akw]

Russians are Mongolians as well.

[KINGGIBARA]

I usually don't insult people but your statement leaves me no other choice. You are extremely stupid spa05akw.

[spa05akw]

That was only an expression that people use in some countries - not exactly the truth. Did you take it seriously? Mongolians were in Russia. Once the whole Ruissia was called Tartaria.

[KINGGIBARA]

POSTED BEFORE

Many nations were conquered and at the same time were conquering other nations for a certain time in the history. The empires raised and felt down and this is normal. The question is why some nations could hold their name and culture in the history and even managed to make other people to use their name and adopt their culture like the Bulgarians did when they came on the Balkans with the Slavs.

The conclusion: Mongols were powerfull but their culture would not progress.

[spa05akw]

1.Bulgars didn't adopt Slavic 100%.There are preserved Bulgar costumers,folkloristic songs and ornaments.And bulgar mentality has not disappeared.Besides,Slavs didn't leave any historical remnants.They didn't know how to unite in organized State (not until Bulgars came)--they didn't even have one language.You are partially right since Bulgars saved the Slavic people and integrated with them.All is thanks to Old Bulgars.That knowledge will never die.That contribution, one of many, will never die!

[spa05akw]

2.Though, most scientists (Including me) believe in the Türc-Mongolic theory, and according to them the new theory is not proven. Furthermore there were different kind of Mongol people in old times. The words Mongol and Türk are Cosmo politic with wide range. Not all Mongolian ppl had slanted eyes. Like Türks.

Djinghis Khans Mongols-Türks, for example, were nomadic barbarians with Tartars as a striking power along with Avars, Khazars and Huns.

[spa05akw]

While Japanese, Chinese and others, who belong to the Mongolian race, have indeed great culture and are creative. Türks have also built Empires.

Bulgars were semi-nomadic who built cities and were creative in all aspects. They were already mixed in Central Asia. That is why they had slight Mongolian feature in for.exampl. Caucasus.

Mongolian people had great history.

[Machtwille]

There are no proofs for the Turkic theory. How can the Bulgars be mongol, when in all their graves were found bodies of Europeids? And in all ancient images they are painted as Europeids... And in all chronicles is written that they are Sythians!

[spa05akw]

1. Yes. Caucasoid (Europeids) with slight Mongol features. I mentioned Caucasus. If there are no proves, so there is at least one waterproofed according to historians. But nobody found even 1 of the new theory. You are (as I ) entitled to your opinion.

2. I have studied the origin of the Bulgars (by reading all kind of written sources, Bulgarian and non-Bulgarian) and have come to the conclusion that they must come from China. Continuing...

[spa05akw]

Interesting is that lately Hungarian (who follows the moves of the Magyars who passed same lands as Bulgars) and Korean professors of history are convinced of this theory. As them I think that Bulgars attacked the little China back then from the North where was their origin home. In 2137 BC they defeated the Chinese. In 22 Octobre same year there was Sun Eclipse and Chinese were scared.

[spa05akw]

Since Bulgars had good knowledge of Nature and Astronomy (knew also about the planets and that the sun was in the middle) took the chance of attacking. Maybe there you have the origin of the worlds most accurate CALENDAR. In time they moved to BACTRIA and Hindukush and established Bulgarian land called BALHARA. That was their 2:nd home.

[spa05akw]

Later Bulgars raided many lands like Mesopotamia, Egypt, Tian Shan, Samarkand and many others, before they established other Lands. Totally 12. Volga-Bulgaria was the last and Balkan-Bulgaria the SURVIVOR. In time they mixed and got another appearance.

3.Furthermore, Scythians are considered by most historian books as Mongol/Türkic people (Mongols spoke and wrote in Turkish. Runes are Turkish. And used Turkish Calendar). It is

[Machtwille]

You are talking total nonsense. The FACTS are enough clear:

* IN ALL BULGAR GRAVES WERE FOUND ONLY(!!!) BODIES OF EUROPEIDS.

* IN ALL(!!!) ANCIENT IMAGES THE ANCIENT BULGARIANS ARE PAINTED AS EUROPEIDS. - Check the video "Images of proto-Bulgarians".

These are facts, which cannot be commented, they say enough.

[spa05akw]

Read my comments posted to KINGGIBARA.

[dergrossen]

Greeting! Academics are capable of some massive mistakes, INNACURATE FACTS which are so stupid you would not believe.. I know this because I studied at UK universities. The English speakers make MASSIVE mistakes even in simple word translation. Many have NO IDEA about which they write books. They perpetuate ignorance. Many books were POLITICALLY BIASED and often many academics were scared to disagree. Please use your own mind and decide from YOUR experience. BEST REGARDS.

[spa05akw]

"You are talking total nonsense...

In that case allmost all historians talk nonsense - not me, since I read their books. And in that case also all Swedish, English, etc, Encyclopedias talk nonsense. We have to close all libraries and shoot almost all professors.

[spa05akw]

"BODIES OF EUROPEIDS..."

Europeids are internationally called with the Term CAUCASOID. I said Caucasoids with slight Mongolian feature. THAT SAYS WORLDHISTORY. Besides, my friend, you believe what you want and I have my believes.

[spa05akw]

About the images... Read my comments to KINGGIBARA. Bulgars already mixed in Asia, mixed again in Europe and finally with Balkan people and Slavs.

These images that you mention are NOT Protobulgarian but Modern Bulgarian.

2 different things. 2 different worlds. And at least more than 4000 years in between.

[spa05akw]

Historians consider Scythians as Türk-Mongolic people. Sarmatians (Iranian) were Turkified long time ago.

Read my latest comments to KINGGIBARA.

[Machtwille]

For which "historians" you are talking about? Maybe the Turkish historians? In Wikipedia they always write the official positions. Let's see what's written there for the Scythians:

"The Scythians or Scyths[1] were a nation of horse-riding nomadic pastoralists originally of IRANIAN stock,[2] who dominated the Pontic steppe throughout Classical Antiquity."

[spa05akw]

1.I didn't read Turkish books since I do not speak Turkish. It would be nice to be enriched by reading also other sources. I don't think serious Turkish historians would lie.

2.Wikipedia is not my main source since it is not realable. Wikipedia is not approved as any source for Academicians at Universities.

3.The word "stock" (of Iranian stock) is diffuse and explain nothing deep.

4.My main sources are Western books (Mostly Swedish) and Bulgarian.

[KINGGIBARA]

The mongol-turk theory is still strong but becomes more and more arguable. In fakt for large periods in the history the Bulgarians were on the way of the mongols invasion to the civilized world in Europe and surely they have delayed for centuries their invasion to Europe.Bulgarians have destroyed many armies of different nomadic babrbarian tribes on their way to Europe.Bulgarians and Mongols were deadliest enemies.Bulgarians were building cities and states while the mongols were nomads worriors

[spa05akw]

1.When I use term Mongolic I don´t mean Djinghis Khans barbarians Mongols and nomads. Japanese, for example, are Mongolic but their culture is far away from the LATE Mongolian alliances. I mentioned that there were different Mongolic people. Bulgars were surely enemies to Modern Mongolians since they were Older people from Central Asia and also had similar military style and because of that could resist like nobody else and beat them. Continuing...

[AreNaKafevo]

Пиши па ти на Български,бе,шведския комик!

[spa05akw]

5.I said before that Scytho-Sarmatians were Turkified.

6.Scythians is a Greek word for "herds" who lived north of the Black sea.

7.Persian Dareos I (514-513 BC) tried to subdue non-Iranic Scythians.

8.Scythians were nomads. Bulgars were SEMI-nomads.

9.Herodot (Book 4) says that Scythians (Scolotes) are the youngest people on earth. They didn´t exist more than 1000 years -- from their king Targitaos time to Dareios military expedition to their land.

[spa05akw]

10.Scythia was both geographic place North of Black sea and State/Kingdom in Asia. It is confusing and that is why historians use terms like Scytho-Sarmatians; Türk-Mongolic; etc. There were another Scythians -- warlike horsemen with bows and rode LITTLE HORSES (Mongolian). An Example. In 612 BC they caused the fall of Assyria.

11.Scythians wore "Tunic" - found in Altai. Scythian graves were found also in Altai.

[spa05akw]

12.Hippokrates support the ancient vision about Mongolian origin of the Scythians in his work "About lands, water and air".

13.Sarmatians were of Iranic origin (Turkified) related to Scythians. According to Herodotos Sarmatians were descendents of the Scythians and Amazons.

14.Bulgars left Central Asia together with Alans (Sarmatian tribes).

[spa05akw]

(Read all points 1-14 for coherence)

Spa05akw

[KINGGIBARA]

I need to apologise to you spa05akw. I see you have read a lot. Probably my historical background is less rich than yours. The thing that made me angry before is that you don't show enough respect to the theories that diiffers from your one. One day the true theory will be prooved and most probably it will involve all nowdays theories at some extend. Mongol features and DNA traces were found in some old Bulgars graves but they were not significant in order to stay firmly behind your theory.

[spa05akw]

1.Hello KINGGIBARA! Of course there can be new foundings. But teaching history at schools, or writing books, has to have basic grounds. Today they teach history as they know it up till now. That is the conventional. If we find big differences then in time people will teach otherwise.

2.Since Bulgars were already mixed in Asia and later in Europe -- than of course people loose in time their origin looks and blood.

[KINGGIBARA]

"Bulgars were surely enemies to Modern Mongolians since they were Older people from Central Asia"- I've already tried to say that in ancient time most probably the humman race was homogen and the people were almost the same. But some decided to be farmers, others woriers and this made them forming different tribes and ethnicity later. At the time we concider different ethnicity were existing the bulgarians were different from mongols in many, many, many, many ways.

[spa05akw]

3.I do not study newer Bulgar history or history about specific place of "origin". Bulgars came lately from Ukraine (Old Great Bulgaria). It means not that Ukraine was the origin land of Bulgars. That goes to Caucasus and Bactria as well. I am concentrated on the very, very first one -- before they moved to BACTRIA.

[spa05akw]

5.My theory is Mongol-Türkic (Scythians, Sarmatians, Huns, Hiung-nu, Uighurs, On-oghurs, Kotr-ighur, and other related tribes) And I do not deny some new foundings. Generally, I believe in both theories. But they have to be PUT IN THEIR RIGHT POSITION AND ORDER. Both of them. We cannot believe in something old that became new, something not convincing, and suddenly reject the more stabile theories. Anyway, Old and newer theory show that Bulgar history is biger that we ever thought.

[KINGGIBARA]

"Mongol features and DNA traces were found in some old Bulgars graves but they were not significant in order to stay firmly behind your theory."- You haven't responded to this yet, spa05akw .

[spa05akw]

6.Could you give an example about me being without respect to other theories? Sometimes I am also angry when I read not real theories but speculations and some hear sayings, or separate statements without real "Podkrepa". That is: Body without bones / Gotovo palto bez rykavi. In that case I do not need to respect it, since it is so transparent wrongs. I am not against what ppl believe in - I am against obvious statements.

[KINGGIBARA]

spa05akw :"I am concentrated on the very, very first one- before they moved to BACTRIA."-response: How far you could go?! At some time we'll start to research what kind of monkey the Bulgarians came up from? Otherwise I understand your enthusiasm. There are some ancient sources pointing that "bulgarians" came from north of China and many times they've conquered it and even for along periods they were a ruling cast there but this is pretty arguable and even so does not points their ethnicity.

[spa05akw]

Continuation... from nr.2 "In time they mixed and got another appearance",

and the mixture with Slavs changed completely Bulgar appearance.

[spa05akw]

Continuation... nr.3

It is said that Scytho-Sarmatians were once Turkified and vice versa. As I said before These words are Cosmopolitic and nobody needs to be ashamed BECAUSE of barbarians like Ottomans and Djinghis Mongol Tartars. As a matter of fact, the sperm of the Mongolian people/race is spread all over the world (Not only BAD one) and were called with different names.

[Machtwille]

Paid western propaganda? Please, don't make me laugh. The genetic tests show that in Bulgaria the people with Slavic genes are not more than 3-5%. We are the same Bulgarians as the proto-Bulgarians of kanaz Kubrat - glorious Aryan people from the Iranic branch of the Aryan race. If there's other people through which we must search our past these are the Thracians.

[jordange123]

Stop with the brainwash. We have all kind of blood in our veins, but mostly we are slavs. I am sorry but the paid western propaganda wouldnt work. I don't need any historical fact which are manipulated. I just look around and compare us with other nations and ethnic groups. We are closest to the slavs. It is so plain and simply.

[AreNaKafevo]

На майка ти вунящия дирник през който си излязъл е славянски ! Предпочитам да съм куче, но не и славянин !

[Torchia999]

I agree that average Greek,Turk and Southern Italian is darker than average Bulgarian, but I think black hair is more common that blond hair.

It's true that big percent of Bulgarians has got brown hair. I am half Bulgarian and I have black hair :) And a big part of my family has got black hair. Of course I have some Bulgarian relatives with brown and blond hair.

[BulgarianSoldja]

an yes its true that black hair is more common than blonde but there is a fair proportion of blondes too :)

[BGSlopy]

Thats true and the hair colour depence on the climate (its more hoter in the Balcans than in cental west Uroope.)

[spa05akw]

My teacher in Sweden who is Norwegian (with black hair) told me once that real Norwegian people should have black hair and not blonds.

[BulgarianSoldja]

spa05akw,

ive seen many dark haired norwegians

[heathenss]

Ако си говорим специално за нашата история, то мога да ти кажа, че е супер лесно всичко да се манипулира. Достатъчно е на едно поколение даскали в университета да им набият глупости в главите и от там те като папагали разпръскват зазубрените лъжи сред хората. И така се налагат митовете. Проблема е, че 99% от хората не умеят да разсъждават, а просто повтарят чутото от някой друг.

[heathenss]

Да ти кажа промиването се прави доста лесно. Република Македония е прекрасен пример. Там става дума само за исторически лъжи, на които цял свят се смее, но по същия принцип се правят промивки и манипулации на световно ниво и тогава няма кой да се смее, тъй като всички са в тоя капан.

[heathenss]

В България турци няма. Има само турцизирани Българо-мохамедани, това е.

[TtrojjanMan]

A u4itelkata mi po istoria i tq e s promit mozuk a deto e u4ila predi 30 godini primerno...?Cqlata nacia sa ni promili vikash/..q stiga legendi brat mn dobre znaesh kakuv ni e etnogeneza i 4e imame kruv ot tiq koito kazvash no slavqnskata e v nqi golqmo koli4estvo...

[AreNaKafevo]

Абе зинзибарски, маймунообичен антрополог-разбирач, я ми покажи източника където пише, че сме в булшинството славяни ! И ми го напиши на Българската азбука !

[spa05akw]

1.Then turn to dog and die, you IDIOT and IMBECIL MAJMUNA! I never said that Bulgarians are most Slavic. I support the Mongol-Türkic theory, and Thracian.

2.I DECIDE in what language I will speak or write. UNDERSTOOD, Moron!

[AreNaKafevo]

Смешна получовешка циганска гнидо, теб ще те набия на майка ти в аналната тръба от където си излязъл, гнусно безподобно биологическо недоразумения ! Ега измрете вси полу-човеци от племетоти от рак на костите, мама ти и на гнусната мърша ! Да си галиш децата студени, амебо !

[heathenss]

А на помаксам мога да му кажа да се обеси. Миналото ни може да се свързва единствено и само с прото-Българите (арийско пелеме) и с древните траки (арийски племена). А турски етнос изобщо няма. Турците са смес от европейци, монголци, араби и негри.

[heathenss]

Ти да не си мислиш, че щом в университета някоя свиня от ранга на Васил Гьозелев ти говори нещо, то трябва да е непременно вярно?

[heathenss]

Ние нямаме нищо общо със славяните. По Българските земи няма открита нита една находка оставена от славяни, нито пък в някой извор пише, че сме се смесвали с тая измет.

[heathenss]

TrojanMan, аз пък знам хора, които учат в скопския университет и са супер обедени, че във вените им тече кръвта на Александър Велики :)

[pomaksam]

Xa xa :) Aku q sam balgarin q sam slavqnin za6toto q pravix dna-test to pokazva 4e q imam slavqnski geni ... Spored men balgarite sa

4isto turtsi!

[TtrojjanMan]

abe brat iskash da mi kajesh che nqmam slavqnska kruv li?Pro4eti si uroka po istoria v pro gimnaziata i ela da si lafim pak...Az sum purvi kurs istoria v Sofiiskia i znam mn dobre 4e po golqmata 4ast ot kruvta ni e slavqnska kvi sa tiq spekulacii..zasramete se malko

[tankistabg]

tova e dobro video!

[shashaveli]

Ех какви сме татари ей! Я ги виж! Всичките са ниски кривокраки и жълти! Гадни Монголи мдаам...нищо общо с чистите антички Македонци!

[Machtwille]

There is percent of Black haired Bulgarians, but this percent is small. There's also a small percent of Red haired people. The main part of the Bulgarians got Brown hair.

[Torchia999]

I think black hair is also common thing in Bulgarian nation (in all Balkan nation). Is it included in brown hair people here?

[bgtop9962]

It is not so common in Bulgaria, unlike, Greece and Turkey. Bulgarians have mostly auburn hair like Central Europeans ( South Italians, Spaniards, Greeks and Turks are usually darker than the average Bulgarian).