im definitely a mustang fan and will be buying my first terminator in a couple weeks, but i can garuntee you that evo had double or triple the money that the cobra had into it. i don't know much about evo's and the 4g63, but i do know you'll never need to build a cobra longblock until you've reached about 1300hp. don't know limitations for evo. but its definitely not hard to get insane power out of terminator motors, in MY opinion i would take the cobra anyday. no shit talkin, just my opinion :)
@tj306notch zolner pistons aren't going to last at 1300hp. sorry buddy, try again. a stock block on a termi is maybe good for 750rwhp. yes, it can handle a few hundred more, but the question is how long.
@recordbreaker5 well i know there have been some to make well over 1000 on the stock internals. but your right i don't know how long, maybe if you were easy on it. but i know a place by me built a cobra on stock internals that made 1060 rwhp, that was house of boost, i'm pretty sure that one hasn't been blown but they probably never drive it that much
@tj306notch i'm with you on some cobra's out there pushing over 1khp on the stock block. but the majority of them are built with better pistons i.e. diamonds, manley, etc. Zolners aren't bad by no means just not popular for hp levels in that range. some owner even put I-beams vice the H-beam manleys (excellent rod) that are stock in there.
I think I know what the problem is here. You have a 3800+lb car with 675whp, running a 3200 lb or less car running 850whp.
The reason why the EVO is having so much trouble is because the cobra has a much broader powerband than the EVO. AMS tuned this car to be a dyno queen, not necessarily looking at 1/4 mile times, or actually a USABLE powerband. A 42R IMO is too large to be running on a 2.3 stroker that's probably redlining around 8-8500 rpms. Point in case...Usable powerband>dyno queen
@cantbsdave Well unless they are using stock internals, or running a horrendous tune, then I would say for a while actually haha. As long as they're running a strong forged bottom end, an efficient cooling system, high octane fuel, and a good tune, that car should last for a while...even at around ~1,100 crank horsepower
what was wrong with the evo? turbo lag cause of 38 psi and a big turbo maybe? kept missing gears too?. the tt cobras v8 spools its turbos fast. not bad for a 6500lb car on 15-18lbs of boost compared to the 38psi and 850awhp, 3200lbs evo. If the cobra had say 22lbs of boost i think the evo would have not been able to pull at top end. both really nice cars.
@Cisco121490 18psi on stock block with some bolt ons vs a fully built motor with 38psi. stroke the ford and run twin turbos on that cobra and you'd be seeing over 1000rwhp and that cobra would take a shit on that evo. flat out evos suck and need shit tons of boost to even be quick.
@suprbird : That was a twin turbo cobra man. No doubt that cobra could make some power, but that Evo was dogging it and certainly not running 850 whp. There are alot of people on you tube that quote a race gas number and highest power level for a car than it is actually running during that race. If that evo indeed had 850 awhp it would be a low 9 or high 8 second car!
@ls1eater : Yeah, after watching this race again, I do think it was making alot of power... maybe 850 awhp... But not a good-difinitive race here by either car. Obvioulsy the Evo was pulling hard when there seemed to be any race, but the cobra clearly has a better power band. This race could have been close if there was a good one despite the big power difference give to the Evo.
@Cisco121490 How about the Cobra's extra 400 pounds??? The Cobra's power is actually usable instead of only achieving full boost in fourth at over 100-
badass Evo lots of respect 2 Chris and AMS and also badass cobra lots of repsect 2 the driver and HP performance ... imports and Domestics are O.K. with me lol
he knows how to drive the Evo..the Evo was broken he is one of the most respected Evo drivers in the world dont comment if u dont know the whole story
the car has ran for 2 years a year on the 35r setup and a year and a half on the 42r setup his motor blew and he sold the car...during this race the car had misfiring and had motor knock so he let off... he is well known around the net watch his 35r setup matter of fact put in Chris's Evo and watch his vid
Plus read the description of the cobra, 03 cobra, HP twin t57's@18psi......675whp at 15psi. This cobra was probably making over 700hp in the video. Both cars are sick.
ANY RWD with the right suspension and tires WILL KILL an Evo off the line. That is why the fastest drag cars are RWD, think about it. 38psi is plenty but a 4g63 can support 40+ easily. a 850hp cobra vs a 850awhp evo, results? Watch what this car at 601awhp was doing against 600+whp cobras. Problem solved. Only one good race that showed what should have happened, the 3rd race, Chris' evo was walking away, driver mod needed and there wouldn't have been a race.
i have an 03 cobra myself....i love it and everything but if that race was off the line then that terminator would have gotten terminated lol, my friend had an MR and off the line those things are undescribable
you Fawking IDiots !!! Cobra have Twice Displacment 2 times more cylinders plus Huge Turbos and RWD off the roll so lets see Evo have AWD sucks off the roll Twice less Cylinders and Displacment and still was pulling on Cobra !
Your a fag! Cry me a river with all your excuses. The EVO has twice as much boost and twice as much traction so shut the fuck up! Also do you talk the way you write? Cuz if you do, I bet you would sound like a deaf retard.
That evo is sick, but need a better driver. that and what 98DSModded is right.
NoNameSlim 7 months ago
im definitely a mustang fan and will be buying my first terminator in a couple weeks, but i can garuntee you that evo had double or triple the money that the cobra had into it. i don't know much about evo's and the 4g63, but i do know you'll never need to build a cobra longblock until you've reached about 1300hp. don't know limitations for evo. but its definitely not hard to get insane power out of terminator motors, in MY opinion i would take the cobra anyday. no shit talkin, just my opinion :)
tj306notch 8 months ago
@tj306notch zolner pistons aren't going to last at 1300hp. sorry buddy, try again. a stock block on a termi is maybe good for 750rwhp. yes, it can handle a few hundred more, but the question is how long.
recordbreaker5 8 months ago
@recordbreaker5 well i know there have been some to make well over 1000 on the stock internals. but your right i don't know how long, maybe if you were easy on it. but i know a place by me built a cobra on stock internals that made 1060 rwhp, that was house of boost, i'm pretty sure that one hasn't been blown but they probably never drive it that much
tj306notch 7 months ago
@tj306notch i'm with you on some cobra's out there pushing over 1khp on the stock block. but the majority of them are built with better pistons i.e. diamonds, manley, etc. Zolners aren't bad by no means just not popular for hp levels in that range. some owner even put I-beams vice the H-beam manleys (excellent rod) that are stock in there.
recordbreaker5 7 months ago
@elmostro561 the evo is running more than double the pressure.. and its so fully buillt... thats absurd
xmodrock 8 months ago
TT those Terminators and its all over..
LOCS20 9 months ago
takes a god damn lifetime for that 42R to spool. smaller turbo would be better for that car.
recordbreaker5 9 months ago
transmission problems for evo...?
nikosthorr 10 months ago
@nikosthorr DRIVER PROBLEM FOR THE EVO
lilmrrpimp 8 months ago
no way that evo had 850 to the ground. the cobra would have gotten eatin alive if it did and this is coming from a mustang guy...
gutz1988 11 months ago
I think I know what the problem is here. You have a 3800+lb car with 675whp, running a 3200 lb or less car running 850whp.
The reason why the EVO is having so much trouble is because the cobra has a much broader powerband than the EVO. AMS tuned this car to be a dyno queen, not necessarily looking at 1/4 mile times, or actually a USABLE powerband. A 42R IMO is too large to be running on a 2.3 stroker that's probably redlining around 8-8500 rpms. Point in case...Usable powerband>dyno queen
98DSModded 1 year ago 7
@98DSModded nicely written
snoprosledneck88 1 year ago
@98DSModded EXACTLY!! And how long do you think that 2.3 LTR engine's bottom end is going to hold up to that boost??
cantbsdave 6 months ago
@cantbsdave Well unless they are using stock internals, or running a horrendous tune, then I would say for a while actually haha. As long as they're running a strong forged bottom end, an efficient cooling system, high octane fuel, and a good tune, that car should last for a while...even at around ~1,100 crank horsepower
98DSModded 6 months ago
i thinks its harder for the evo to put the power down the power then the cobra lol . the evo have stock suspension/drive train?
jclarkesbcglobal 1 year ago
that evo needs a 6spd!!!!
andrewskyline 1 year ago
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GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@supra6t9 (myself) i fucked up on the comment lol i was half asleep i meant is the evo even trying
supra6t9 1 year ago
o cmon is the cobra even trying. he is lighter and has almost double the boost. mustang pride!!! but the evo is a nice car as well.
supra6t9 1 year ago
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shadeseeker09 1 year ago
SPOOL TIME ON A 4 Cylinder LOL. Better eat up your brakes bc that car don't spool up fast for shit!!!
KBCobra123 1 year ago
DIG PLZ !!!
Red97Avenger 2 years ago
that evo dont know go to shift but he woulda still got smoked anyway
ANDRESSANCHEZ213 2 years ago
V8 all the way! Insane Snake...
LOCS20 2 years ago 3
more like you gotta love the fact, its running nearly 40 psi. Guy can't drive for shit. Lighter weight then the cobra too.
KBCobra123 3 years ago
is a 10 years old kid driving it lol
tigerluv3000 3 years ago
hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha 38 pounds
pereztang 3 years ago 4
what was wrong with the evo? turbo lag cause of 38 psi and a big turbo maybe? kept missing gears too?. the tt cobras v8 spools its turbos fast. not bad for a 6500lb car on 15-18lbs of boost compared to the 38psi and 850awhp, 3200lbs evo. If the cobra had say 22lbs of boost i think the evo would have not been able to pull at top end. both really nice cars.
cantreadpassword 3 years ago
you think a cobra weighs 6500lbs? think before you speak
roadracelude 3 years ago 2
I concur.
Vikturus2k6 2 years ago
6500lb car? are you for real?
304teddy 2 years ago
whoa whoa whoa!!!!!!! cobra is nowhere near 6500lbs LOL more like 34 to 3600lbs.
bluecapone 2 years ago
as most are saying up that boost 5 psi and watch how quick it turns into a slaughter
praetorian2150 3 years ago
something is wrong with that evo. ohh i know! its 4 pistons short. hahaha if that mustang pushes more boost that evo would be cryin for mama.
rwdstang 3 years ago 2
Was there something wrong with the evo? nice race though, sweet rides
pablox4000 3 years ago
ryanturner holy fuck! 38 psi vs 15 psi!!! wow if the cobra cranked the boost up to low twenties it wouldn't be a fucking race...
2004KB281 3 years ago 9
@2004KB281 Its bad lag for the evo, He should've brake boost and to it. And atleast get a better tune cause of all that lag.
BYOB561 1 year ago
@2004KB281 yeah but the cobra would probably blow the motor or tires would of spin. lol
Dieselboy805 1 year ago
@2004KB281 well it was 18 psi vs 38psi. having twice the boost madeup for the 4 extra cylinders the cobra has.
Cisco121490 1 year ago
@Cisco121490 18psi on stock block with some bolt ons vs a fully built motor with 38psi. stroke the ford and run twin turbos on that cobra and you'd be seeing over 1000rwhp and that cobra would take a shit on that evo. flat out evos suck and need shit tons of boost to even be quick.
suprbird 11 months ago
@suprbird : That was a twin turbo cobra man. No doubt that cobra could make some power, but that Evo was dogging it and certainly not running 850 whp. There are alot of people on you tube that quote a race gas number and highest power level for a car than it is actually running during that race. If that evo indeed had 850 awhp it would be a low 9 or high 8 second car!
BigBadTurboM3 11 months ago
@BigBadTurboM3 ??? it made every bit of 850 in this race......
ls1eater 8 months ago
@ls1eater : Yeah, after watching this race again, I do think it was making alot of power... maybe 850 awhp... But not a good-difinitive race here by either car. Obvioulsy the Evo was pulling hard when there seemed to be any race, but the cobra clearly has a better power band. This race could have been close if there was a good one despite the big power difference give to the Evo.
BigBadTurboM3 8 months ago
@suprbird stfu
ironmb86 8 months ago
@Cisco121490 BUT i still respect the evo, its a fast car.
suprbird 11 months ago
@Cisco121490 How about the Cobra's extra 400 pounds??? The Cobra's power is actually usable instead of only achieving full boost in fourth at over 100-
cantbsdave 10 months ago
something was wrong with the evo. it pulled the cobra hard in some of the pulls.4 cyl. turbo vs v8 turbo.haha.and the americans loose again
ryanturnerboles 3 years ago
you gotta love the top end of the evo baby
amsevo8 4 years ago
badass Evo lots of respect 2 Chris and AMS and also badass cobra lots of repsect 2 the driver and HP performance ... imports and Domestics are O.K. with me lol
Bossrah 4 years ago
great even races
LDRS26 4 years ago
i have a cobra and i wouldnt give it up for angwlina jolie, but that evo made my nimrod stand
FlowsTTcobra 4 years ago
OMFG the dude in the EVO does not know how to drive! Give me the wheel and I'll show you how you do it.
bcoulal 4 years ago
he knows how to drive the Evo..the Evo was broken he is one of the most respected Evo drivers in the world dont comment if u dont know the whole story
Bossrah 4 years ago
So what was broken on the Evo? If you know the story then please explain.
bcoulal 4 years ago
the car has ran for 2 years a year on the 35r setup and a year and a half on the 42r setup his motor blew and he sold the car...during this race the car had misfiring and had motor knock so he let off... he is well known around the net watch his 35r setup matter of fact put in Chris's Evo and watch his vid
Bossrah 4 years ago
Plus read the description of the cobra, 03 cobra, HP twin t57's@18psi......675whp at 15psi. This cobra was probably making over 700hp in the video. Both cars are sick.
jasnm21 4 years ago
ANY RWD with the right suspension and tires WILL KILL an Evo off the line. That is why the fastest drag cars are RWD, think about it. 38psi is plenty but a 4g63 can support 40+ easily. a 850hp cobra vs a 850awhp evo, results? Watch what this car at 601awhp was doing against 600+whp cobras. Problem solved. Only one good race that showed what should have happened, the 3rd race, Chris' evo was walking away, driver mod needed and there wouldn't have been a race.
jasnm21 4 years ago
38 PSI fuck.............
oscaromarleon 4 years ago
i have an 03 cobra myself....i love it and everything but if that race was off the line then that terminator would have gotten terminated lol, my friend had an MR and off the line those things are undescribable
muffinman2361 4 years ago
did it occur to u that the evo needs to build all that 38psi... twins are better off the line
and dont say the two step crap because theres alone so much boost u could build from a two step..
lets see same power wise 850 evo 850 cobra see who wins.. twins for the win...
jat04 4 years ago
god i love evos. cant wait to get mine.
gointense 4 years ago
I'd like to see them from a stop
Ttop50ryda 4 years ago
you Fawking IDiots !!! Cobra have Twice Displacment 2 times more cylinders plus Huge Turbos and RWD off the roll so lets see Evo have AWD sucks off the roll Twice less Cylinders and Displacment and still was pulling on Cobra !
shlemJDM 4 years ago
But the EVO had almost 200whp more. so that's why it pulled on the Cobra
19shawn85 4 years ago
Your a fag! Cry me a river with all your excuses. The EVO has twice as much boost and twice as much traction so shut the fuck up! Also do you talk the way you write? Cuz if you do, I bet you would sound like a deaf retard.
ukchay 4 years ago
dude don't be so negitive, no reason we can't be mature in our discusions.
TheAbaddon666 4 years ago
Thanks internet police.
ukchay 4 years ago
nice vid, but imagine a cobra boosting 33psi.
StevenSVT 4 years ago
COBRA on 33 psi = massive engine explosion,props to the EVO for pulling that hard without explosion!
vettecsix 4 years ago
good ricer excuse you idiot.
jesuscanrap 4 years ago
Fuck YOU!!
StevenSVT 4 years ago
amazing 33 psi. I thought the cobra was going to get destroyed with less than half of the evos psi. Cobras ftw.
Libblelabble 4 years ago
excellent video.. both cars are awsome
jesuscanrap 5 years ago