I don't think a single political party with majority status is the solution at all. We need to be asking ourselves why certain groups repeatedly show disinterest in voting INSTEAD of condemning them.
Gotta' comment regarding "old white men". Minorities have shown time and time again that they are far more into their own interests then even the biased politicians we have now. I believe that the default thinking that minority = good is a fundamentally flawed way of looking at politics and law. Too often the lone wacko or minority lobby group gets their way at the detriment of all others. I'm not afraid of minorities but the word "minority" means they are not a representation of the populous.
I don't vote for many of the same reasons. Even if an elected party manages to accomplish something good (which, let's face it, has happened as we do live in probably the best country on Earth), the next bunch of officials tear it all apart based on their own agenda. Bad law is put on top of bad law and the result is a mess. Problem is, there isn't a way of fixing it. Anarchy? Please. Anyone who suggests that needs to grow the hell up. Rule by random number generator!
We have a former communist party as the opposition now lol hear jack layton's ctv speech...Pure communist and his wife got elected too and she's worst then he is,i voted for them too it's funny.
I think if a politician or party makes a promise they should be contractually obligated to keep it. If I apply for a job with a 100% total bullshit resume I might get the job but I'll be fired 2 hours into the first day. But if I was running for office I can say ANYTHING I want with little if any consequences. Seems at tad off to me.
If we want to at least attempt a TRUE democracy, a good start would be disallowing ANY political party from purchasing advertising time or participating in slander campaigns - either should be an automatic expulsion from the process. That way at least the lesser parties would be able to have a voice. That doesn't solve the second dilemma I mentioned however in regard to the lying.
I agree with you on all points, and I'll add three of my own:
I don't vote because I don't, can't, and won't support democracy. It is the one point I disagree with Sir Winston Churchill on....it's not the best option we have. I would definitely vote for anarchy (clever).
The baby boomers must die. Only then can we rise up and take this world back. Then we can burn it to the ground.
i agree 100% with you rose growing up in the east end i seen first hand that although promises are made they never do anything the say they will, we seem to get the shitty end of the stick our roads are horrible not to mention almost deadly with potholes, there not doing enough to keep the violence off the street or helping the homeless to find places to live, i don't vote for these such reasons own up to your promises and maybe you will have my vote
The problem is the less common parties don't have much of a chance of wining. The issue is the larger ones lie, tell you what you want to hear, market and then do whatever they see fit regardless of what the promise. Their lobbing groups and campaign paying friends have them in their pockets. They manipulate the politics with their money and power. So, why vote if all it means is you're going to be ignored. There is no true democracy in this country....
No, as I stated first and foremost, I plead ignorance - all I ever see is the "muckraking" campaigns and I'm frankly sick of it. While I'd be happy to learn about these other lesser known parties, a) Is their information easily accessible? and if it is, why do the vast majority of us not know about them then? 2) How much influence do they *truly* have? As for spoiling my ballot, I've never heard reports on how many ballots were spoiled? But you're welcome to point one out to me.
It seems you would fit in better with a lesser known party, are you aware there's 22 parties in Canada? Have you read ALL there platforms? and a philosophical question... would you rather vote for someone very close to your ideals in a small party or vote for the lesser of 5 evils? if you had to of course. also, why not spoil your ballot and at least deliver your message of un-satisfaction to the government rather than having no voice at all? a spoiled ballot is a vote for non-confidence in gov
its true what ya said, and alot of that is why i chose not to vote, and lets face oit they are all liars that will say what ever their party thinks will get them the most votes. lets see a large number of small business owners get into power and watch the changes happen they are used to only having so much to spend and they make it work, they would trim alot of fat from the government now that would be something nice to see.
I don't think a single political party with majority status is the solution at all. We need to be asking ourselves why certain groups repeatedly show disinterest in voting INSTEAD of condemning them.
rosecoraperry 10 months ago
Gotta' comment regarding "old white men". Minorities have shown time and time again that they are far more into their own interests then even the biased politicians we have now. I believe that the default thinking that minority = good is a fundamentally flawed way of looking at politics and law. Too often the lone wacko or minority lobby group gets their way at the detriment of all others. I'm not afraid of minorities but the word "minority" means they are not a representation of the populous.
aaroncake 10 months ago
I don't vote for many of the same reasons. Even if an elected party manages to accomplish something good (which, let's face it, has happened as we do live in probably the best country on Earth), the next bunch of officials tear it all apart based on their own agenda. Bad law is put on top of bad law and the result is a mess. Problem is, there isn't a way of fixing it. Anarchy? Please. Anyone who suggests that needs to grow the hell up. Rule by random number generator!
aaroncake 10 months ago
We have a former communist party as the opposition now lol hear jack layton's ctv speech...Pure communist and his wife got elected too and she's worst then he is,i voted for them too it's funny.
1988scottcarey 10 months ago
I think if a politician or party makes a promise they should be contractually obligated to keep it. If I apply for a job with a 100% total bullshit resume I might get the job but I'll be fired 2 hours into the first day. But if I was running for office I can say ANYTHING I want with little if any consequences. Seems at tad off to me.
Mekelar 10 months ago
If we want to at least attempt a TRUE democracy, a good start would be disallowing ANY political party from purchasing advertising time or participating in slander campaigns - either should be an automatic expulsion from the process. That way at least the lesser parties would be able to have a voice. That doesn't solve the second dilemma I mentioned however in regard to the lying.
rosecoraperry 10 months ago
I agree with you on all points, and I'll add three of my own:
I don't vote because I don't, can't, and won't support democracy. It is the one point I disagree with Sir Winston Churchill on....it's not the best option we have. I would definitely vote for anarchy (clever).
The baby boomers must die. Only then can we rise up and take this world back. Then we can burn it to the ground.
You are awesome.
slave084 10 months ago
i agree 100% with you rose growing up in the east end i seen first hand that although promises are made they never do anything the say they will, we seem to get the shitty end of the stick our roads are horrible not to mention almost deadly with potholes, there not doing enough to keep the violence off the street or helping the homeless to find places to live, i don't vote for these such reasons own up to your promises and maybe you will have my vote
beautifulfreekshow 10 months ago
The problem is the less common parties don't have much of a chance of wining. The issue is the larger ones lie, tell you what you want to hear, market and then do whatever they see fit regardless of what the promise. Their lobbing groups and campaign paying friends have them in their pockets. They manipulate the politics with their money and power. So, why vote if all it means is you're going to be ignored. There is no true democracy in this country....
mboyle84 10 months ago
No, as I stated first and foremost, I plead ignorance - all I ever see is the "muckraking" campaigns and I'm frankly sick of it. While I'd be happy to learn about these other lesser known parties, a) Is their information easily accessible? and if it is, why do the vast majority of us not know about them then? 2) How much influence do they *truly* have? As for spoiling my ballot, I've never heard reports on how many ballots were spoiled? But you're welcome to point one out to me.
rosecoraperry 10 months ago
It seems you would fit in better with a lesser known party, are you aware there's 22 parties in Canada? Have you read ALL there platforms? and a philosophical question... would you rather vote for someone very close to your ideals in a small party or vote for the lesser of 5 evils? if you had to of course. also, why not spoil your ballot and at least deliver your message of un-satisfaction to the government rather than having no voice at all? a spoiled ballot is a vote for non-confidence in gov
fistedsaxe 10 months ago
its true what ya said, and alot of that is why i chose not to vote, and lets face oit they are all liars that will say what ever their party thinks will get them the most votes. lets see a large number of small business owners get into power and watch the changes happen they are used to only having so much to spend and they make it work, they would trim alot of fat from the government now that would be something nice to see.
TheWrathfire 10 months ago