What could be more ancient than evolutionary conjecture's gospel ("...an arcanum of prosodic theory which is the province of specialists..." P.F. Baum) with its interrelated specialisms: Big Bang, primordial ooze, archallaxis, unicellular life's speciational advancements through a positive and naturalistic eugenism, transitional relics and whatnot?
The wonders of peer-review & consensus medicine & mercantilism/corporatism have enriched the U.S. w/: 95,000 deaths annually fr. easily-prevented-hospital-borne staph infections, central-bank-printed counterfeit currency, the Dalkon Shield, mercury-preserved serums, chem-trails (aerial obscuration), the irradiation of the Arab World via depleted uranium, the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children under the "oil for food program," automobile air bags and the Americans with Disabilities' Act.
Ya he knows stuff alright. He knows how to 'act' and the content he speaks is written for him to deliver. He is but a highly paid delivery man. Materially set for life but his soul is not his.
We're taking a poll --- Is the consensus that Cyberbrian215 likely supported President DICK Cheney, Vice-President George Bush (<-- not typos!), and "quitter" ex-Governor Sara 'death panel' Palin.......probably owns lots of firearms......if he believes in God, he probably sits in the front row of his church (or is possibly the pastor of his congregation)..... champions the greed of Big Business.....and most likely doesn't have too great a fondness for Mother Nature??
It doesn't matter who is president. This whole rock is about to come to an end. Where are we going? Do you think that the earth will be here forever? And even if it is, how long will it take humanity to destroy itself. America can and will fall. Cant you see? Nobody can save this country. Americans are the greediest backstabbers on the planet. And it is the greed and disregard for the planets ecosystem that will end this dream we had. Oh... and the "rape" of the constitution doesnt help.
What do you mean by 'whole rock coming to an end?' Cause if you mean the earth demise, then you are mistaken... Its our races demise surely, and the earth will brush over us as it has been doing to other species for the past 4.5 billion years.
Obama Rules, i hope in 2012 he goes again or hilary clinton, Bush sucks, he did nothing but made this world worse, sarah paling is the dumbest person i ever seen, and McCain is like what 100? if he were president he would die in a week, and he is also very dumb. This is just my opinion.
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this President SUCKS ....big time! liberal socialist left wing jack-ass! release Gitmo prisoners, big mistake wants 30 mpg vehicles, impossible, can't wait till this tool-bag is gone in 2012
rmhm73 are you serious? You actually think 30 mpg vehicles are impossible? What time period are you living in? The fact that we can, better yet, anyone can if they have the right tools and instructions, can make a hydrogen fuel cell to run a vehicle. Using hydrogen is far moreefficient than gasoline. I don't see how people doubt science seeing how far we've come..
Saying he doesn't know shit is ridiculous. Look at how well he did at University. Maybe .01% of people could succeed like that. Whether he is fooling everyone is another matter.
No one questions Obama's intelligence or even knowledge,... maybe his nationality,.. but we really question his motives/intentions which everyday seem to be more clear...and they don't look good.
I will have respect for religion and religious nuts when they deplore hunting instead of abortion. When they will let stem cell research continue and do not interfere when plugs are pulled off brain dead people to respect their living will. When they will be taught to question their own faith the way they question science. I will have respect for religion, I will.
An american non-believer can NEVER become president. It's a shame, non-believers or agnostics usually think a lot, unlike some american presidents I can mention. :/
obama is obviously not religious. he just said it to get elected. its sad that you have to fake being religious to get elected, but thats our country. if you put him on a lie detector and asked him if he believed in God, it would go off the scale.
Actually, he has mentioned darwin before in a public speech for darwins 200th birthday. I cant remember which speech so cant find the link, but it was recently of course.
He has preeched against religion before in other ways though.
At this moment the U.S. is plummeting into receivership. We just "inaugurated" a Kenyan as Chief Magistrate. Congress has met privately twice, in the past year, to design martial law. When China dumps the dollar the U.S. is finished.
LABORING FOR LOVE--Wash your hands as "atheists" are among the people. The W.W.II generation were a thoroughly-manipulated motley crew of self-righteous hypocrites. Eulogizing war, genocide & mayhem accomplishes nothing. We are now in the throes of a National Socialist regime. When China dumps our dollar, the party is over. If the world is so much better off without Hitler then why are we adopting his National Socialistic policies?
America - YOU ARE INVITED - to join my experimental protest in support of Money to the people..... answer one simple question: "How would you spend $297,000 dollars?" email your video responses to me or upload them to YouTube so I can add them to my favorites.
The Gov. is giving out this money with out knowing how it will spend or IF it will work...lets tell em how we would spend it to show if we got the money THIS CRAZY IDEA WOULD WORK AND FIX THE ECONOMY!!!
Xorinite: I have no idea where you've recieved your Bible knowledge. I've read the entire Bible, front to back and never have I seen any of the things you speak of, unless you're taking them entirely out of context.
Obama's stated several times that he practices Christianity...Then he goes around saying he's an evolutionist?...I myself knew the bastard was lying but wow, he just comes out and says it...It's really hilarious that you people overlook his lies so flippantly...
Also, this country was found under God...THAT'S fact...Like it or not, it's fact.
Christianity and Evolution are not mutually exclusive. By your ignorance (and others like you) there has been created such a shit storm of fear & paranoia that to understand & accept evolution, is to spit in the face of God. This is wrong on so many levels and urgently needs to be corrected. The premise that all Christians should abandon evolutionary theory is dangerous. Which is why a fair segment don't... which leaves you.
"I do not believe that we humans are the biproduct of fish reproducing for millions of years until a primate learns to swim out onto dry land."
Good, because that's a rather childish strawman.
"he should know the "do's and don'ts""
Like don't eat prawns, do stone your kids to death, do hate your mother and father, do give away ALL your possessions to the poor. Stuff that you choose to ignore.
'until a primate learns to swim out onto dry land.' because it doesn't work that way, I'm not surprised you don't believe it.
'know the do's and don'ts.' Like don't believe in science? That's what it is at the end of the day, what good can come from that?
If you're ignorant about a process, thats okay, we're born ignorant, some choose not to remain that way. If you can't learn because you want to be a rock star, fine whatever, evolution continues. To deny it, now theres a case for insanity.
I never said I didn't believe in science entirely, my friend.
I do believe that certain mammals and sea life have changed over the course of time, plants, insects, there IS a lot of evidence for this. However, I do not believe that humans derived from something less intelligent and without morality or common sense. There is no solid proof for that. If you can find it I'd love to see it. I'll "remain" ignorant if that's what you're going to call it. I believe in Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior.
"Trying to make me "understand & accept" evolution is like me trying to make you "understand and accept" that evolution never happend ***(to a certain extent).***"
You've stated two things which belie your irrational position.
'You can have your beliefs about a dismal life with nothing at the end of the road.'
What does this have to do with the evolution of a species? What does this have to do with science? What does this have to do with accepting the process? What is the correlation between the study of a natural process and a quality of life?
To fully accept evolution is to turn from God? Thats absurd, what if he put the animals here for us to study?
'I do not believe that humans derived from something less intelligent and without morality or common sense.'
This is a 'top down' approach. Is this to suggest the animal kingdom take intelligence, morality and common sense from the humans. That all other life is stumbling and crashing around completely out of order, clueless to it's own purpose. But we don't see that. We see highly structured societies, incredible symbiotic relationships and until we came along, balance.
It is merely a way of observing the world in a critical, rational, & objective manner
If you honestly believe in God (something I believe in too, but in a different way), how could u not accept science. God would be the greatest scientist ever if indeed you are right. Why deny the beauty and incredible complexity of "His Creation".
When it comes to evolution, there is no debate as to whether or not it is a correct theory within the scientific community.
Would you believe a book written at a time when human comprehension of our world was limited instead of the real objective world around you? Do you not think it is possible that human error is responsible for an incorrect portrayal of "Creation" in the bible?
Science is something that does not require a "belief". It is so profoundly incredible and rewarding learning about science. If you believe in God, why not try to understand his creation?
You are going to tell me that I'm ignorant and that others "like me" are ignorant?
Why?
Have you the simplest knowledge of TRUE Christianity?
Trying to make me "understand & accept" evolution is like me trying to make you "understand and accept" that evolution never happend (to a certain extent). Pointless and an enormous waste of time.
So many people look down on Christianity, after all, Christians are so vile and morally repulsive, no?
"Trying to make me "understand & accept" evolution is like me trying to make you "understand and accept" that evolution never happend (to a certain extent). "
What would that certain extent be? This is after all a pretty solid theory with the usual observable instances, transitional examples, predictions, overwhelming scientific consensus, even right down to the genetic and DNA level. This is what you have to overturn.
If so, I'd love to read about this enlightening information I'm ignorant of.
There is no solid evidence that we've evolved from some lower form of life over the course of millions of years. Or is that not a good enough description?
You can have your beliefs about a dismal life with nothing at the end of the road.
I am shocked that this skinny little man, a man who did a guest spot on Oprah, is now president.
It is wonderful and strange.
How much pull does he have? What price will be paid?
The string of death and dismemberment follows so closely on the heals of great men that I cringe to think of what might become of us all when we dare hope.
And then I think of the electronic polling booths, and I wonder...
President Obama is a windbag who talks out of both sides of his mouth. He can stand there and praise Darwin while continuing and expanding the funding of faith based initiatives. What a bunch of bullshit.
It is within obama's political interest to keep the faith based initiatives bush and his pals started, because the prescient has been set and to discontinue the inititive would be to insult a huge majority of the nation, which is not a smart move to do in obama presidential infancy.
Oh by the way, i find it rather amusing that you are a Republican atheist and pro-science, considering that most republicans are very devote bible thumpers, superstitious, and of low intellect.
I personally believe that TRUE conservative Republicans ought to find Christianity beyond repulsive. It is imperialist by nature and goes completely against everything the Republican Party's philosophy of limited government stands for. As evidenced by the funding of faith base initiatives, the far right desires to grow the government just as much as the far left. Both extremes just want to grow it in their favor.
the question is, is there a "true conservative republican" majority in the republican cult? If not, what best alternative do you propose to the obama administration?
as america's system becomes more liberal things become worse. about 2 years ago my friend knew someone that was faced with a murder charge and he got only 2 years in jail, yet another friend i knew also knew someone faced with selling a bottle of xanax and tylenolw/codeine to an undercover cop and was faced with 25 to life. this is a crazy difference, something like this would've never happened in the 80s, or 90s. just think about it for a second, i live in NY, the crime rates pretty high here.
Check out Thomas Franks' book 'What the matter with Kansas" It does an excellent job of drawing the lines between fiscal conservatism & reigious right.
well words are good, but obama was preceeded by some guys who dug a pretty deep hole that obama now has to get out of before he even gets to a level playing field.
fundies will try and make it hard. but i hope he lives up to those words.
Barack Obama is like a BAMF
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What could be more ancient than evolutionary conjecture's gospel ("...an arcanum of prosodic theory which is the province of specialists..." P.F. Baum) with its interrelated specialisms: Big Bang, primordial ooze, archallaxis, unicellular life's speciational advancements through a positive and naturalistic eugenism, transitional relics and whatnot?
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He says whatever you want to listen..
fefiss86 6 months ago
Obama iz a nazi communist who doesn't believe in duh lawd. he iz goanna go to hell
Aurelian603 6 months ago
@Aurelian603 you got it right lol
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The wonders of peer-review & consensus medicine & mercantilism/corporatism have enriched the U.S. w/: 95,000 deaths annually fr. easily-prevented-hospital-borne staph infections, central-bank-printed counterfeit currency, the Dalkon Shield, mercury-preserved serums, chem-trails (aerial obscuration), the irradiation of the Arab World via depleted uranium, the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children under the "oil for food program," automobile air bags and the Americans with Disabilities' Act.
ThePregnancySlaves 7 months ago
He always looks like he's wearing brown lipstick. lol
ana8woahhh 7 months ago
This fucking hilarious.
ja524309 9 months ago
great clip :D
RealityZealot 10 months ago
when was this??
VoiceOfModeration 1 year ago
He knows " STUFF ALL"!!
mikeeboy1000 1 year ago
Obama claimed that morality requires religion in one of his campaign debates. I became less fond of him when I heard him say that.
01234V43210 1 year ago
Your mum seems to lie them
SupermarketsRevil 2 years ago
This is a true puppet
deansusky 2 years ago
Obama's brain is a more highly evolved brain from a great ape.
MyPalAndy 2 years ago
@MyPalAndy and sarah palins a less highly evolved one
manonthemount 1 year ago
Ya he knows stuff alright. He knows how to 'act' and the content he speaks is written for him to deliver. He is but a highly paid delivery man. Materially set for life but his soul is not his.
kokodokodo 2 years ago
everybody search " george carlin on religion" watch the whole 10 minute video. funny as fuck.
Oddwonder0085 2 years ago 10
We're taking a poll --- Is the consensus that Cyberbrian215 likely supported President DICK Cheney, Vice-President George Bush (<-- not typos!), and "quitter" ex-Governor Sara 'death panel' Palin.......probably owns lots of firearms......if he believes in God, he probably sits in the front row of his church (or is possibly the pastor of his congregation)..... champions the greed of Big Business.....and most likely doesn't have too great a fondness for Mother Nature??
TheSoulMatePredictor 2 years ago
The only change O'Bama brought our country is a president who is capable of public speaking.
NihilistImp 2 years ago
@NihilistImp Caveat. Only with a teleprompter
1madaboutguitar 2 years ago
It's a luck he is not a creationist freak, those retarded are really dangerous.
ChristianIce 2 years ago
It doesn't matter who is president. This whole rock is about to come to an end. Where are we going? Do you think that the earth will be here forever? And even if it is, how long will it take humanity to destroy itself. America can and will fall. Cant you see? Nobody can save this country. Americans are the greediest backstabbers on the planet. And it is the greed and disregard for the planets ecosystem that will end this dream we had. Oh... and the "rape" of the constitution doesnt help.
H3ALTHHAZARD 2 years ago
What do you mean by 'whole rock coming to an end?' Cause if you mean the earth demise, then you are mistaken... Its our races demise surely, and the earth will brush over us as it has been doing to other species for the past 4.5 billion years.
Kelavmeister 2 years ago 4
earth + plastic
EroSennin6669 2 years ago
The only thing Obama knows is how to give a speech of lies and fuck up the country
Lightness9363 2 years ago
obama is a social Darwinist.
Which essentially means nazi.
Thats enslavement of the population to serve the so called strong.
Murdering the weak and the poor and those who dont think right.
Be careful of this man.
luckylangerie 2 years ago
Obama proved he's a Christian again today.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Hear, hear, Mr. President.
KatarnandKanos 2 years ago
Better get your comments i before rgbda disables comments or simply deletes them.
fascist
savioroftehuniverse 2 years ago
What are you talking about?
rgbda 2 years ago 4
one thing you have to take in mind is that the president is just a picture for the people... there is guys behind him that makes all the decisions
MrDimman 2 years ago 4
Obama Rules, i hope in 2012 he goes again or hilary clinton, Bush sucks, he did nothing but made this world worse, sarah paling is the dumbest person i ever seen, and McCain is like what 100? if he were president he would die in a week, and he is also very dumb. This is just my opinion.
officialskaterboi007 2 years ago
you think obamas gonna do any better hell no
maniac923 2 years ago
I'm gonna ask you guys something that most of the country seems clueless about...if you don't like him. WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM!?
Sharkbait132 2 years ago
Most of the people who don't like him DIDN'T vote for him.
Many of the people who did vote for him didn't realize how much of a dipshit he is until it was too late.
jasonk387 2 years ago 4
funny how people still believe the propaganda and bullshit they heard during the election, and don't know anything about him
SillySnake72 2 years ago
fuck obama worst president since carter
Imustbreaku69 2 years ago
Lets see:
Bush expanded Government, So is Obama.
Bush took freedoms away, So is Obama
Bush Started some wars, Obama is continuing them.
Bush nationalized some Companies, So is Obama.
Bush spent loads of cash we do not have, Obama is spending even more.
Bush pushed us towards Fascism, So is Obama.
Sounds like an awesome job so far. What else will Obama do that Bush did or started.
ThndersRage 2 years ago
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this President SUCKS ....big time! liberal socialist left wing jack-ass! release Gitmo prisoners, big mistake wants 30 mpg vehicles, impossible, can't wait till this tool-bag is gone in 2012
rmhm73 2 years ago
lol fag
SleepingLeon 2 years ago
how are 30mpg vehicles imposible, r u living in a ditch? take off ur stupid blindfolds u have on this world and look around.
we have 40+mpg vehicles.
captainsoymilk626 2 years ago
rmhm73 are you serious? You actually think 30 mpg vehicles are impossible? What time period are you living in? The fact that we can, better yet, anyone can if they have the right tools and instructions, can make a hydrogen fuel cell to run a vehicle. Using hydrogen is far moreefficient than gasoline. I don't see how people doubt science seeing how far we've come..
TheLifeRhythm 2 years ago
30 MPG is easy WTF was that guy smoking?
MonokuroBooHokKan 2 years ago 2
right on man FUCK OBAMA
Imustbreaku69 2 years ago
a living puppet!
njj37 2 years ago 2
sell crazy elsewhere we are all stocked up here, by the way how much Goldman Sachs stock did you get you pig!
uuubeut 2 years ago
Saying he doesn't know shit is ridiculous. Look at how well he did at University. Maybe .01% of people could succeed like that. Whether he is fooling everyone is another matter.
fuckinabich 2 years ago
he's the smartest President in a long while...I wish there was some room left on Mt. Rushmore for him in the future.
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
HE SUCKS!!!!! He doesnt Know Shit the guy that wrote his speech does!!!!!!!!!
Rifleman2219 2 years ago
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captainsoymilk626 2 years ago
Yeah right...he's an empty suit...he'll always be an empty suit
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No one questions Obama's intelligence or even knowledge,... maybe his nationality,.. but we really question his motives/intentions which everyday seem to be more clear...and they don't look good.
Carlitos1010 2 years ago
Obama For science, which branches out for cures for diseases, innovative clean technology, life saving treatments and so fourth...
while the conservatives and the bush administration Don't want any of that....
They try to make out they want all that but if it conflicts in anyway with religion or there rediculas morals they say NO!
dylanshane 2 years ago 2
Religion deserves no respect. But,
I will have respect for religion and religious nuts when they deplore hunting instead of abortion. When they will let stem cell research continue and do not interfere when plugs are pulled off brain dead people to respect their living will. When they will be taught to question their own faith the way they question science. I will have respect for religion, I will.
siyengar9821 2 years ago 5
hear hear! well said!
sarah95pekoe 2 years ago 10
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And people will have respect for you when you get off your lazy ass and try to help society rather than undermine those who are.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
So christians as a whole are helping society??? Umm what? WTF have you done for society? Commenting on youtube doesn't count.
TheOrgystheband 2 years ago
lol What makes you think I'm a Christian?
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
When did I ever allude that you were? I was in a roundabout way calling you a hypocrite.
TheOrgystheband 2 years ago
You're not even sure what I am and you're calling me a hypocrite?
Gosh you're smart.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Probably more than you.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Yeah good comeback.
I'll give you a thumbs up for that one...
Douche
TheOrgystheband 2 years ago
Care to name what you've done to help society?
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Obama is a religious man, Bush wouldn't have acknowledged Darwin's birth.
Obama had huge huge praise for Lincoln but if he was to praise or mention Darwin, he would loose precious christian votes.
Politics as usual
greenleaflink 2 years ago
An american non-believer can NEVER become president. It's a shame, non-believers or agnostics usually think a lot, unlike some american presidents I can mention. :/
SigDrums 2 years ago
obama is obviously not religious. he just said it to get elected. its sad that you have to fake being religious to get elected, but thats our country. if you put him on a lie detector and asked him if he believed in God, it would go off the scale.
brianwenning45 2 years ago
Yeah, I hate what religion does to this world..
SigDrums 2 years ago
isnt it funny....Lincoln, along with most of our respected founding fathers, was NOT religious
brianwenning45 2 years ago 4
Err? Is he or isn't he? Why did he get Lincolns Bible?
I heard rumours that he was also gay or something lol...I doubt he was a atheist, any facts?
greenleaflink 2 years ago
LOL jokes on you they were ALL religious.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
Actually, he has mentioned darwin before in a public speech for darwins 200th birthday. I cant remember which speech so cant find the link, but it was recently of course.
He has preeched against religion before in other ways though.
youtube (.) com/watch?v=LXcvbnzNIjg&feature=PlayList&p=67BFCFE9DFDDD8AF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8
I have read that he was raised an atheist but became christian simply because he was inspired by the churches in the chicago city where he moved to.
waltermh111 2 years ago 2
26 and clueless.
greenleaflink you need to lurk more.
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
I'm clueless, your the one lurking to see my age and making assumptions.
My point is that Darwin get's a mention and Lincoln get's a big bash,dinners and this and that.
If he was American, Darwin that is, it would be a different story.
Back up your statement of why you think I am clueless, and bring it.
greenleaflink 2 years ago 3
"Back up your statement of why you think I am clueless, and bring it."
It might have a bit to do with your writing:
"Obama is a religious man, Bush wouldn't have acknowledged Darwin's birth.
Obama had huge huge praise for Lincoln but if he was to praise or mention Darwin, he would loose precious christian votes."
CHARESTHEHAMER 2 years ago
1. He is a Religious man, Didn't he do pray before his inauguration? and the day after.
2. Bush is a heavy Christian, go look up what he thinks about Atheists.
3. It's a known fact that Obama has huge praise for Lincoln, big dinners etc etc. True he is a former President and American etc.
If you think you for a second Christians didn't vote for Obama, then why was Rick Warren there.
Gimme a damn break, because someone doesn't think like you, they are an idiot.
greenleaflink 2 years ago
Do you really think Bush is actually christian?
klowny666 2 years ago
Do you have proof that he isn't ?
greenleaflink 2 years ago
Yep hes a Evangelist Christian and doesnt even believe in Evolution
C0mm0nS3ns3 2 years ago
that's because he's a dumb fuck and everybody knows that
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At this moment the U.S. is plummeting into receivership. We just "inaugurated" a Kenyan as Chief Magistrate. Congress has met privately twice, in the past year, to design martial law. When China dumps the dollar the U.S. is finished.
procommenter 2 years ago
LABORING FOR LOVE--Wash your hands as "atheists" are among the people. The W.W.II generation were a thoroughly-manipulated motley crew of self-righteous hypocrites. Eulogizing war, genocide & mayhem accomplishes nothing. We are now in the throes of a National Socialist regime. When China dumps our dollar, the party is over. If the world is so much better off without Hitler then why are we adopting his National Socialistic policies?
procommenter 2 years ago
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i wish hed quit comparing himself to lincoln, if obama is so fucking great why cant he be his own person instead of compying someone elses wisdom?
laurensaysyourgay 2 years ago
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god, this is SUCH bullshit.
greene255 2 years ago
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what a bullshitvideo
gridlocksystem 2 years ago
America - YOU ARE INVITED - to join my experimental protest in support of Money to the people..... answer one simple question: "How would you spend $297,000 dollars?" email your video responses to me or upload them to YouTube so I can add them to my favorites.
The Gov. is giving out this money with out knowing how it will spend or IF it will work...lets tell em how we would spend it to show if we got the money THIS CRAZY IDEA WOULD WORK AND FIX THE ECONOMY!!!
BAILOUTMONEY 2 years ago
sersontology did it.
EcclesiasticalPlate 2 years ago
Go Barack!! You rock! xD
youcancallmedavid 2 years ago
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Its silly... TOtally stupid...
Why are we even having this debate, to say the least?
So what if your father was a monkey? So what if he's not?
You see, people today has totally lost the true meaning of religion. it is the set of beliefs that guides our perception and attitude and actions..
When we impose, thats when the trouble starts. When we politicise it, thats when violence occurs.
Mutual respect for what others belief ...Seek similarity not hegemony
squidwan 2 years ago
Religion deserves no respect.
siyengar9821 2 years ago 19
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why not? ;-]
squidwan 2 years ago
A bit cruel.
That's like saying Harry Potter deserves no respect.
jazzx251 2 years ago
Okay, easy, jackals.
No need to go on the offensive.
Xorinite: I have no idea where you've recieved your Bible knowledge. I've read the entire Bible, front to back and never have I seen any of the things you speak of, unless you're taking them entirely out of context.
Try not to do that.
VenomProject 2 years ago
Eh...Color me confused, if you want...
Obama's stated several times that he practices Christianity...Then he goes around saying he's an evolutionist?...I myself knew the bastard was lying but wow, he just comes out and says it...It's really hilarious that you people overlook his lies so flippantly...
Also, this country was found under God...THAT'S fact...Like it or not, it's fact.
America is becoming a horrible country.
"God damn America" indeed.
VenomProject 2 years ago
Yes, you are indeed confused.
Christianity and Evolution are not mutually exclusive. By your ignorance (and others like you) there has been created such a shit storm of fear & paranoia that to understand & accept evolution, is to spit in the face of God. This is wrong on so many levels and urgently needs to be corrected. The premise that all Christians should abandon evolutionary theory is dangerous. Which is why a fair segment don't... which leaves you.
Ignorant.
Stupid.
Crazy.
Which is it?
rgbda 2 years ago
Okay, that was badly worded...
I do not believe that we humans are the biproduct of fish reproducing for millions of years until a primate learns to swim out onto dry land.
It's not fear and paranoia, it's what I believe. If Obama claims to practice Christianity he should know the "do's and don'ts"....
I could say that you are ignorant, stupid and crazy for you supporting Obama, but since that's your stand and opinion I have no problem with it.
Obama is the problem, two-faced lies.
VenomProject 2 years ago
"I do not believe that we humans are the biproduct of fish reproducing for millions of years until a primate learns to swim out onto dry land."
Good, because that's a rather childish strawman.
"he should know the "do's and don'ts""
Like don't eat prawns, do stone your kids to death, do hate your mother and father, do give away ALL your possessions to the poor. Stuff that you choose to ignore.
Xorinite 2 years ago 2
'until a primate learns to swim out onto dry land.' because it doesn't work that way, I'm not surprised you don't believe it.
'know the do's and don'ts.' Like don't believe in science? That's what it is at the end of the day, what good can come from that?
If you're ignorant about a process, thats okay, we're born ignorant, some choose not to remain that way. If you can't learn because you want to be a rock star, fine whatever, evolution continues. To deny it, now theres a case for insanity.
rgbda 2 years ago
I never said I didn't believe in science entirely, my friend.
I do believe that certain mammals and sea life have changed over the course of time, plants, insects, there IS a lot of evidence for this. However, I do not believe that humans derived from something less intelligent and without morality or common sense. There is no solid proof for that. If you can find it I'd love to see it. I'll "remain" ignorant if that's what you're going to call it. I believe in Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior.
VenomProject 2 years ago
"I do believe that certain mammals and sea life have changed over the course of time" that's called evolution my friend.
princessannikki 2 years ago
"Trying to make me "understand & accept" evolution is like me trying to make you "understand and accept" that evolution never happend ***(to a certain extent).***"
VenomProject 2 years ago
I'd like to see you try n_n
Anyway you already said you believe in evolution.
princessannikki 2 years ago
No, no, no.
I was quoting something that I said earlier.
I DO believe in evolution. (To a certain extent...)
VenomProject 2 years ago
You've stated two things which belie your irrational position.
'You can have your beliefs about a dismal life with nothing at the end of the road.'
What does this have to do with the evolution of a species? What does this have to do with science? What does this have to do with accepting the process? What is the correlation between the study of a natural process and a quality of life?
To fully accept evolution is to turn from God? Thats absurd, what if he put the animals here for us to study?
rgbda 2 years ago
The second statement:
'I do not believe that humans derived from something less intelligent and without morality or common sense.'
This is a 'top down' approach. Is this to suggest the animal kingdom take intelligence, morality and common sense from the humans. That all other life is stumbling and crashing around completely out of order, clueless to it's own purpose. But we don't see that. We see highly structured societies, incredible symbiotic relationships and until we came along, balance.
rgbda 2 years ago
How can someone not believe in science?
It is merely a way of observing the world in a critical, rational, & objective manner
If you honestly believe in God (something I believe in too, but in a different way), how could u not accept science. God would be the greatest scientist ever if indeed you are right. Why deny the beauty and incredible complexity of "His Creation".
When it comes to evolution, there is no debate as to whether or not it is a correct theory within the scientific community.
sampsonoff 2 years ago 4
Would you believe a book written at a time when human comprehension of our world was limited instead of the real objective world around you? Do you not think it is possible that human error is responsible for an incorrect portrayal of "Creation" in the bible?
Science is something that does not require a "belief". It is so profoundly incredible and rewarding learning about science. If you believe in God, why not try to understand his creation?
Peace my friend.
sampsonoff 2 years ago 4
There is proof of human evolution.....
Just search Wikipedia for it ...Try "Human evolution" or "anthropogenesis"
or even "Evidence of common descent"
If an old book says that we were created doesn't mean its true
its just silly :)
youcancallmedavid 2 years ago 6
you are right! PS: The Bible is full of Bullshit
sweetrottweiler 2 years ago 6
You are going to tell me that I'm ignorant and that others "like me" are ignorant?
Why?
Have you the simplest knowledge of TRUE Christianity?
Trying to make me "understand & accept" evolution is like me trying to make you "understand and accept" that evolution never happend (to a certain extent). Pointless and an enormous waste of time.
So many people look down on Christianity, after all, Christians are so vile and morally repulsive, no?
Whatever though. I know where I'm going.
VenomProject 2 years ago
"Have you the simplest knowledge of TRUE Christianity?"
Have you the simplest knowledge of the no TRUE Scotsman logical fallacy?
"Trying to make me "understand & accept" evolution"
Id settle for understand.
Xorinite 2 years ago 2
"Trying to make me "understand & accept" evolution is like me trying to make you "understand and accept" that evolution never happend (to a certain extent). "
What would that certain extent be? This is after all a pretty solid theory with the usual observable instances, transitional examples, predictions, overwhelming scientific consensus, even right down to the genetic and DNA level. This is what you have to overturn.
Is that a victim card I see?
rgbda 2 years ago
You know how evolution works then?
Right down to the very core of the science?
If so, I'd love to read about this enlightening information I'm ignorant of.
There is no solid evidence that we've evolved from some lower form of life over the course of millions of years. Or is that not a good enough description?
You can have your beliefs about a dismal life with nothing at the end of the road.
VenomProject 2 years ago
I am shocked that this skinny little man, a man who did a guest spot on Oprah, is now president.
It is wonderful and strange.
How much pull does he have? What price will be paid?
The string of death and dismemberment follows so closely on the heals of great men that I cringe to think of what might become of us all when we dare hope.
And then I think of the electronic polling booths, and I wonder...
Who's pulling my chain now...
.
homerthompsonman 2 years ago
I breathe a sigh of relief!
FINALLY an American president who understands the importance of science and who actually believes in evolution (it is a fact afterall!).
I'm from England and us Brits hated Tont Blair for taking us to an illegal war with war monger Bush that's why we got rid of him.
We love scinece here & if our politicians uttered the words 'God bless Britain', he would be out of office in a flash!
It's time for REASON & rational people to take control of our world again!
Jadezoo 2 years ago 6
Comrade Obama isnt that great at all
Moarphine 2 years ago
Considering the state of american politics, this guy is way better than America could have hoped for and the world is lucky to have him.
Anyone who feels it's a good idea sit back & slag him off must have had all their optimism sucked out of them.
It's a big tug of war between rationality and ignorant superstition.
And now's the time to pull hard if you want the flag to move in your direction.
I doubt you'll get a better chance at positive change in the USA as long as you live.
Oceanus57 2 years ago 6
Oceanus57, you are right, we are lucky to have obama as our president.
The shameful acts and charades the bush administration offered us in the last 8 years has been more than insufferable.
Obama is almost a miracle, if such things actually exist.
placidwaves 2 years ago
For the first time in 8 years the president of the U.S. is not an idiot.
hga024 2 years ago 6
I think he is the light in the darkness.
dreamy2 2 years ago
Yeah, I bet you'd drink his bathwater too. The mass Obama cult gets scarier and scarier everyday.
thunderstruck665 2 years ago 5
President Obama is a windbag who talks out of both sides of his mouth. He can stand there and praise Darwin while continuing and expanding the funding of faith based initiatives. What a bunch of bullshit.
thunderstruck665 2 years ago
Your one to talk.
It is within obama's political interest to keep the faith based initiatives bush and his pals started, because the prescient has been set and to discontinue the inititive would be to insult a huge majority of the nation, which is not a smart move to do in obama presidential infancy.
placidwaves 2 years ago
Oh by the way, i find it rather amusing that you are a Republican atheist and pro-science, considering that most republicans are very devote bible thumpers, superstitious, and of low intellect.
placidwaves 2 years ago
I personally believe that TRUE conservative Republicans ought to find Christianity beyond repulsive. It is imperialist by nature and goes completely against everything the Republican Party's philosophy of limited government stands for. As evidenced by the funding of faith base initiatives, the far right desires to grow the government just as much as the far left. Both extremes just want to grow it in their favor.
thunderstruck665 2 years ago
the question is, is there a "true conservative republican" majority in the republican cult? If not, what best alternative do you propose to the obama administration?
teenspirit1 2 years ago
Not an opinion I agree with, but honestly held.
The Jesus of the Bible was the founder of modern socialism and liberalism.
How on Earth the right wing have gotten a hold of his agenda and twisted it to suit their own hateful agenda I don't know.
jazzx251 2 years ago 4
as america's system becomes more liberal things become worse. about 2 years ago my friend knew someone that was faced with a murder charge and he got only 2 years in jail, yet another friend i knew also knew someone faced with selling a bottle of xanax and tylenolw/codeine to an undercover cop and was faced with 25 to life. this is a crazy difference, something like this would've never happened in the 80s, or 90s. just think about it for a second, i live in NY, the crime rates pretty high here.
llK1NGp1Nll 2 years ago
Your friend has AIDS because you like the dance.
YeahChonas 2 years ago
I supose if you go to far to left you have anarky and chaos to far to the right fashism and opression.
Chill197 2 years ago
Check out Thomas Franks' book 'What the matter with Kansas" It does an excellent job of drawing the lines between fiscal conservatism & reigious right.
Hopeful71 2 years ago
He is trying to govern for all of America.
As long as he promotes real science in the classroom, he can pretend to worship the Celestial Masturbator (JBUH) for all I care.
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obama is full of shit
SKATEORDIE543 2 years ago
Imagine his brain in Sarah Palin's body?
glifencible 2 years ago
I'd fuck his brains out
jazzx251 2 years ago
* lol ...
I meant her brains - way to ruin the best joke of 2009
jazzx251 2 years ago
well words are good, but obama was preceeded by some guys who dug a pretty deep hole that obama now has to get out of before he even gets to a level playing field.
fundies will try and make it hard. but i hope he lives up to those words.
bignastydragon 2 years ago 7