These Open Carry A-holes in MI. (where we HAVE "shall issue" CPL laws) are doing NOTHING but screwing it up for the rest of us! The ONLY reason OC is legal in MI. is because there are no laws prohibiting it (YET!)?
Keep "making your point" and OC when you don't really NEED to, and MI. WILL have laws to prohibit OC, just like Kalifornia Open Carriers screwed it up for themselves!
Also, you make yourself a TARGET when you OC! Watch this video:
Geez, how many idiot cops does it take to resolve this non-issue? It appears half the police force showed up. Meanwhile, burglars are carrying booty out the back doors of the houses. These cops need some serious schooling.
LOL, an another example of cops that arent capable of doing their job and apparently having difficulty reading and understanding the English language. They just wanna be the only ones armed cuz it makes em feel important.
Never give up your right to remain silent...no kidding...it is the single most important right you have in circumstances like the one in this video.
Keep quiet, you have that right.
Make them work for their money.
Do what you can to keep it from escalating...which usually only means being polite, showing them whatever paperwork you are legally responsible for having and then keeping quiet.
If you are legal you will drive away and they will go get a donut.
oh man, did he just say you don't open carry because "some people don't feel comfortable with that!" ?!?! You know there used to be a time when people weren't comfortable with African Americans on the front of the bus too!
Dont carry because some people dont feel comfortable with that...im not comfortable with heights and small dogs please., but their arent laws because people have the goosebumps
stay silent and continue to say....may I leave? am I being detained? May I leave? am I being detained? did i do anything wrong? may I leave? I am not answering any of your questions with out consulting my lawyer. May I leave? Am I being detained ect. then leave asap
Since when are police allowed to stop and detain you because they don't know the law? I'm pretty sure they're supposed to know what they're stopping you for before they stop you.
Open carry just hurts our cause. If you have a Conceal Carry License then just keep it concealed. 1. It keeps the bad guys wondering just who is armed and who isn't. 2. It brings attention to yourself by all the people who do not like guns and that vote and then will fight to have this right taken away. Some states do say if you open carry and make people feel intimadated is illegal. A reasonable person should feel suspicious if someone is walking around with a gun on their hip.
@Combatmedic80 What a load of shit. People NOT seeing firearms regularly is what hurts the cause. The sheeple need reconditioned to understand that open carry is a RIGHT, not a PRIVILEGE. A reasonable person shouldn't get scared because they see a gun on someone's hip. That's unreasonable and just plain retarded. How many more excuses can you make up for stifling people's rights?
The police are armed and retarded they all are overpayed under worked and most of them are fat so fat that they cannot do their jobs so all they got to resort to is brutality or to shoot you becase after 1 minute of work they are exhausted as hell they will shoot you and put that back up gun in your hand. It is obvious that the police are the enemy of the people they are all armed and retarded and overplay they will do any thing to keep thir job even kill you police armed and retarded
4:20ish, I love how the police officer says the biker should help out on the law that the police officer should know. Kimber guy should carry the law with him. Yeah, makes sense to me.
I believe (I live in Mi.) that Mi. law states that it is considered "Open Carry" UNTIL you climb into a vehicle or onto a motorcycle.... Once in a car or on a motorcycle it IS considered "CONCEALED" whether or not it can be seen....
His buddy shouldn't have left him. Now it's 4 opinion-enforcing idiots harassing only one guy. If they pulled over a car for some made up reason, would they also send the passengers away? Divide and conquer, good strategy against the weak-willed who don't know their rights are being violated.
It would be nice if Law Enforcement Professionals actually understood the laws they are trying to inforce.
Thank goodness you don't live in Texas...the cops would have stolen your weapon and vandalized your bike before they figured out what the law really is.
I wish I could understand more of what is being said. I OC on my motorcycle all the time and haven't been pulled over for it. Raleigh PD seems to properly train their officers.
this was not handeld the right way from eather party... the guy on the bike could have been a little direct by stating the facts or by explaining to the officer where he obtained his info... and the policeofficers need to be kept up to date with the laws in wich the are to uphold or inforce....
@stillrob420 so whats your point? do you know if it was the same day or same month or he just rememberd him because of his arrogence...i am a ccw holder and if i was in the same situation i would simply pull out my book with the most up to date info in it and educate the officer in a manner as to be helpful not a wana-be hard ass... they get enough of that with out any help from some jack ass looking to make a statement on his inabilaty to know his laws or to prove it so...
@gunnuttcx4storm, MY POINT I SHE ALREADY WENT OVER THIS WITH THE SAME OFFICER, ITS NOT A CITIZENS DUTY TO INFORM THE COPS. JUST STFU, YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE PARTIAL TO THE POLICE, TEHY WERE WRONG, THEY ARE DUMB GET OVER IT. STFU YOU IDIOT
and i only used to caps to explain the fact he ALREADY had this conversation with the same copy b4 this, for the same thing. He was cleared, the cop was wrong. And he still is, so why is this an argument for you?
@stillrob420@stillrob420 oooo the caps and you lack of spelling scare me. you uneducated fucking retard.its obvious your mommy never spanked you hard enough.and compleat lack of a father figure is evadent seeing how you fly off the handle in the defence of an compleat jackass whom you dont know as to bring attion to the fact of your udder lack of moral fiber you gutless coward. i bet you the type of (guy and and i use the term loosely) thats all fuck the police untill you need em .
@gunnuttcx4storm This comment is 5 months old, and you may not even be online anymore. But I would like to point out that you spelled evident wrong after you yelled at a guy for misspelling a word. Good day to you retard.
So the first patrolman says if you have a CCW then you MUST carry concealed. So by his reason to keep people from open carry they should issue CCW's to everyone? A CCW just gives you the option. I am glad I live in WA state. Nobody cares here. Like IDAHO. But like other commentators have said it is an education of the police/prosecutors and courts
The open carry movement is not just about exercising rights, but also education. Send the appropriate information and your intent to open carry to the appropriate offices in advance, by certified mail. Carry the information on you.
The reality is that patrol officers are not educated on this issue. So deal with reality and do your part to educate in advance. If then you are harrassed, educate through court action. Departments learn quickly when their lawyers frown.
How bad do things have to get before we put an end to this in America. Never leave a man behind! These criminals could have killed your friend simply because they know they will get away with it and citizens are nothing more than cattle to them. THIS IS NOT MERE NEGLIGENCE OR IGNORANCE. If you are a cop and you choose to willingly accost a citizen of the community you "police", you are a terrorist and you deserve to be treated like one.
Officer Paul Albrecht your an embarrassment to to good officers everywhere, and by the way if you were correct the first time you would not have stopped him a second time
You know, one would have thought that after the officers FIRST run in with Kimberguy he would have freaking read up on the law in question rather than try to interpret a law he barrely knows the basics of.
But no, easier trying to bully his view across i guess.
Fucking pigs.. it is the fault of pigs like these that the 4 officers in Lakewood washington were shot.... it is the fault fuckers like these that other police become targets.... they are NOT ABOVE THE LAW... but soon... when the SHTF... they will be dead.
You will NEVER WIN AN ARGUMENT with police. They are ALWAYS right...even if they're wrong. They can do whatever they want at the expense of your wallet. Either assert your 5th amendment rights and, with a firm but polite voice, tell him that you would like to continue on unless they have an actual violation on you. Continue this same statement with every question. They have your ID. They know EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO KNOW about you with it. That's why it's called an ID!
agreed. police today seem to overextend their power and they are always right even when you prove them wrong. i don't think its right and i wish we had a decent way of reform to get rid of this joke that we call the police. i know a lot of cops are good and i have encountered both sides and want the ignorant to be fired.
I like the videos due to the fact that I used to be a cop. The cops got this guy just yapping at the gums just trying to get him to say something that will give them a reason to run him in. Again, continuing to talk to them is a BAD IDEA! It's the same junk over and over again with the banter. The cops are tag teaming here, but most folks just don't see it. "Officer, if I've done something wrong I won't resist arrest. But if I'm clean, I'd like to be on my way if you don't mind."
everyone can see that their weapon isn't out? what is this dumb cop talking about
BkBeast23 1 month ago
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These Open Carry A-holes in MI. (where we HAVE "shall issue" CPL laws) are doing NOTHING but screwing it up for the rest of us! The ONLY reason OC is legal in MI. is because there are no laws prohibiting it (YET!)?
Keep "making your point" and OC when you don't really NEED to, and MI. WILL have laws to prohibit OC, just like Kalifornia Open Carriers screwed it up for themselves!
Also, you make yourself a TARGET when you OC! Watch this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=zx_YUO4SzcY&feature=related
PJS50 1 month ago
Geez, how many idiot cops does it take to resolve this non-issue? It appears half the police force showed up. Meanwhile, burglars are carrying booty out the back doors of the houses. These cops need some serious schooling.
inurtrash 5 months ago
God !!! Gotta love the police..........
blackmoses61 5 months ago
LOL, an another example of cops that arent capable of doing their job and apparently having difficulty reading and understanding the English language. They just wanna be the only ones armed cuz it makes em feel important.
1meangrizzly 5 months ago 2
Cops always escalate it, that black cop doesn't have to start being a dick.
MetalHeadKLR650 6 months ago
Never give up your right to remain silent...no kidding...it is the single most important right you have in circumstances like the one in this video.
Keep quiet, you have that right.
Make them work for their money.
Do what you can to keep it from escalating...which usually only means being polite, showing them whatever paperwork you are legally responsible for having and then keeping quiet.
If you are legal you will drive away and they will go get a donut.
hammerogod 6 months ago
Cop: I wouldn't want to carry a gun on my hip down the highway because I know people are going to call the police.
Smart open carrier: Then tell them it isn't against the law and to have a nice day...
TheSelfdeterminant 6 months ago
You know the guy has been reading the law and realizing he is within the law over and over again, but they keep browbeating him. Good grief.
terriergal 7 months ago
@terriergal I mean you can hear the officer reading the law and how it states that he can open carry. And yet they are still bothering him.
terriergal 7 months ago
oh man, did he just say you don't open carry because "some people don't feel comfortable with that!" ?!?! You know there used to be a time when people weren't comfortable with African Americans on the front of the bus too!
terriergal 7 months ago 4
@terriergal some still are not comfortable with africans in the front of the bus.
buttflyzzz 11 hours ago
these cops are retarded
GrayGamut 7 months ago
your full of shit fullurevent
bayfly12 7 months ago
i cant belive all those cops got paid for doing nothing at all just standing there.. ound like a great job!
jwb864 8 months ago
would love to have a transcript of this. My hearing isn't so good
atcguy01 9 months ago
i know the cops think they are doing the right thing, but they really need to get educated. this is rediculous
Jroy9108 9 months ago 2
Dont carry because some people dont feel comfortable with that...im not comfortable with heights and small dogs please., but their arent laws because people have the goosebumps
Sporkinator3 9 months ago
Reno 911 has lost some of its zing. Dangle is showing his age too.
dickson37055 9 months ago
stay silent and continue to say....may I leave? am I being detained? May I leave? am I being detained? did i do anything wrong? may I leave? I am not answering any of your questions with out consulting my lawyer. May I leave? Am I being detained ect. then leave asap
philais 9 months ago 7
What a fucking waste of tax dollars. You know there are serious issues when citizens know the laws and the "heavily" trained public servants don't.
NowLifeStarts 10 months ago
Not just one, but THREE ignorant cops????
Say it ain't so.
Folks - it's simple:
1. Am I under arrest? "No."
2. Am I free to go? "No, you're being detained for questioning."
3. I choose not to answer any more questions without my attorney present.
eracer1111 10 months ago 8
@eracer1111 ding! perfect answer! I will memorize that..short and too the point...dont talk to police!
philais 9 months ago
Since when are police allowed to stop and detain you because they don't know the law? I'm pretty sure they're supposed to know what they're stopping you for before they stop you.
JadedRockStar84 10 months ago
Open carry just hurts our cause. If you have a Conceal Carry License then just keep it concealed. 1. It keeps the bad guys wondering just who is armed and who isn't. 2. It brings attention to yourself by all the people who do not like guns and that vote and then will fight to have this right taken away. Some states do say if you open carry and make people feel intimadated is illegal. A reasonable person should feel suspicious if someone is walking around with a gun on their hip.
Combatmedic80 10 months ago
@Combatmedic80
i think you are wrong on two points.
1. bad guys dont think far enough ahead to wonder if you are carrying. if they dont see it, you dont have it.
2. a REASONABLE person would not feel suspicious, an uninformed person might though.
michaelruth75 10 months ago
@Combatmedic80 What a load of shit. People NOT seeing firearms regularly is what hurts the cause. The sheeple need reconditioned to understand that open carry is a RIGHT, not a PRIVILEGE. A reasonable person shouldn't get scared because they see a gun on someone's hip. That's unreasonable and just plain retarded. How many more excuses can you make up for stifling people's rights?
911wuzjews 2 months ago
Rule Number One Don't Talk to the Cops!!! This a Tactic to Get him to divulge info that can be used against him in a court of law...
qwkkllr71 11 months ago
The police are armed and retarded they all are overpayed under worked and most of them are fat so fat that they cannot do their jobs so all they got to resort to is brutality or to shoot you becase after 1 minute of work they are exhausted as hell they will shoot you and put that back up gun in your hand. It is obvious that the police are the enemy of the people they are all armed and retarded and overplay they will do any thing to keep thir job even kill you police armed and retarded
KYKIN44 11 months ago
4:20ish, I love how the police officer says the biker should help out on the law that the police officer should know. Kimber guy should carry the law with him. Yeah, makes sense to me.
ttaylor667 1 year ago
I believe (I live in Mi.) that Mi. law states that it is considered "Open Carry" UNTIL you climb into a vehicle or onto a motorcycle.... Once in a car or on a motorcycle it IS considered "CONCEALED" whether or not it can be seen....
brctom1 1 year ago
Was that old Cop Jack Benny (hand on face) lol Love those short-shorts! lol
135belshaw 1 year ago
His buddy shouldn't have left him. Now it's 4 opinion-enforcing idiots harassing only one guy. If they pulled over a car for some made up reason, would they also send the passengers away? Divide and conquer, good strategy against the weak-willed who don't know their rights are being violated.
Dosbomber 1 year ago
It would be nice if Law Enforcement Professionals actually understood the laws they are trying to inforce.
Thank goodness you don't live in Texas...the cops would have stolen your weapon and vandalized your bike before they figured out what the law really is.
RoadCaptainEntertain 1 year ago
I don't understand why he is talking so much to the police. Nothing good will come from it.
PapaJaves1 1 year ago 2
Take off the badge and the gun...
And all you got is a pair of navy blue polyester short shorts.
CTYFOLK 1 year ago 3
I hate that. Stay here for 1/2 an hour while I figure out if you broke the law. Cuz I think you did....
ext456 1 year ago
fucking nigger
ibez07 1 year ago
That black cop was awfully rude...
Ampeg567 1 year ago 3
I wish I could understand more of what is being said. I OC on my motorcycle all the time and haven't been pulled over for it. Raleigh PD seems to properly train their officers.
smith45acp 1 year ago
If you aren't in cuffs in the first three minutes, you are good. The rest of this time spent is for the police to make shit up to drag you in.
JKENT66 1 year ago
Its not his job to educate you, your supposed to know the laws copper.
mizfit32 1 year ago
"Im not sure i understand your question officer" can and has and will be used for hours on end in stops like this. With success. For justice.
elitesack 1 year ago
That retarded black cop was trying to start crap. What a bunch of dickheads. Open carry!!! Secure your rights!
thecottonheadedninny 1 year ago 2
this was not handeld the right way from eather party... the guy on the bike could have been a little direct by stating the facts or by explaining to the officer where he obtained his info... and the policeofficers need to be kept up to date with the laws in wich the are to uphold or inforce....
gunnuttcx4storm 1 year ago
@gunnuttcx4storm, dude, he just had the same conversation with him at burger king.
stillrob420 1 year ago
@stillrob420 so whats your point? do you know if it was the same day or same month or he just rememberd him because of his arrogence...i am a ccw holder and if i was in the same situation i would simply pull out my book with the most up to date info in it and educate the officer in a manner as to be helpful not a wana-be hard ass... they get enough of that with out any help from some jack ass looking to make a statement on his inabilaty to know his laws or to prove it so...
gunnuttcx4storm 1 year ago
@gunnuttcx4storm, MY POINT I SHE ALREADY WENT OVER THIS WITH THE SAME OFFICER, ITS NOT A CITIZENS DUTY TO INFORM THE COPS. JUST STFU, YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE PARTIAL TO THE POLICE, TEHY WERE WRONG, THEY ARE DUMB GET OVER IT. STFU YOU IDIOT
stillrob420 1 year ago
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gunnuttcx4storm 1 year ago
@gunnuttcx4storm what did i spell wrong?
and i only used to caps to explain the fact he ALREADY had this conversation with the same copy b4 this, for the same thing. He was cleared, the cop was wrong. And he still is, so why is this an argument for you?
stillrob420 1 year ago
@gunnuttcx4storm You sure are one to talk about spelling....haha!
Kevin32001 1 year ago
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@stillrob420 @stillrob420 oooo the caps and you lack of spelling scare me. you uneducated fucking retard.its obvious your mommy never spanked you hard enough.and compleat lack of a father figure is evadent seeing how you fly off the handle in the defence of an compleat jackass whom you dont know as to bring attion to the fact of your udder lack of moral fiber you gutless coward. i bet you the type of (guy and and i use the term loosely) thats all fuck the police untill you need em .
gunnuttcx4storm 1 year ago
@gunnuttcx4storm This comment is 5 months old, and you may not even be online anymore. But I would like to point out that you spelled evident wrong after you yelled at a guy for misspelling a word. Good day to you retard.
GODZILLAMANASS 1 year ago
why would u leave your friend on the side of the road with these jack booted thugs? not a very good friend there on bike #1
soowaside 1 year ago
@soowaside that was my father, they threatened to arrest him for interfering with their investigation.
MrKimberGuy 1 year ago
How can this guy do this. He must not realize that the gun could just jump out of the holster and eat babies. Think of the children.
B2Luv2Hunt 1 year ago
Why are all the cops fat?
bripro1 1 year ago
I really find these videos very informative.Thanks for posting.
gee34 1 year ago
So the first patrolman says if you have a CCW then you MUST carry concealed. So by his reason to keep people from open carry they should issue CCW's to everyone? A CCW just gives you the option. I am glad I live in WA state. Nobody cares here. Like IDAHO. But like other commentators have said it is an education of the police/prosecutors and courts
25foot 1 year ago
Anyone else find it ironic that the police who have firearms out in the open are questioning another citizen who is open carrying?
N00blet45 1 year ago
The open carry movement is not just about exercising rights, but also education. Send the appropriate information and your intent to open carry to the appropriate offices in advance, by certified mail. Carry the information on you.
The reality is that patrol officers are not educated on this issue. So deal with reality and do your part to educate in advance. If then you are harrassed, educate through court action. Departments learn quickly when their lawyers frown.
martialcanine 2 years ago
THE MADNESS!!!!! WAKE UP AMERICA. Cops are pissed off they dont have the unlimited authority they think they have
dovii4ever 2 years ago
treo's first rule of Police interactions: If you talk to a cop long enough you WILL say some thing he can use against you.
Officer, am I free to go? If he says you are do it.
johnmaylivesv 2 years ago
in california anyway,absolutely no permit is required to open carry.and the purpose of a concealed carry permit is to allow you to carry concealed.
cassidy99ful 2 years ago
How bad do things have to get before we put an end to this in America. Never leave a man behind! These criminals could have killed your friend simply because they know they will get away with it and citizens are nothing more than cattle to them. THIS IS NOT MERE NEGLIGENCE OR IGNORANCE. If you are a cop and you choose to willingly accost a citizen of the community you "police", you are a terrorist and you deserve to be treated like one.
G95G95 2 years ago
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Officer Paul Albrecht your an embarrassment to to good officers everywhere, and by the way if you were correct the first time you would not have stopped him a second time
54thAggressors 2 years ago
Officer Paul Albrecht your an embarrassment to the JPD
RemoWest 2 years ago
He has to read it 2 million time he is a stupid mofo cant understand basic sentence!
GlobalMaffiaWatch 2 years ago
Dickhead cops
charlitunaman2002 2 years ago
fucken duche bags
Quetzachapin 2 years ago
How many officers does it take to violate someones civil rights?
Depends on the tax dollars coming in and the cops going out on civil disobedience dismissals
caneywaney 2 years ago
You know, one would have thought that after the officers FIRST run in with Kimberguy he would have freaking read up on the law in question rather than try to interpret a law he barrely knows the basics of.
But no, easier trying to bully his view across i guess.
BigSwede7403 2 years ago
my gawd what a bunch of a $ $ holez
h1k3r99 2 years ago
so now the officer has a definite record of harassment to the MC rider
rmodel65 2 years ago
Fucking pigs.. it is the fault of pigs like these that the 4 officers in Lakewood washington were shot.... it is the fault fuckers like these that other police become targets.... they are NOT ABOVE THE LAW... but soon... when the SHTF... they will be dead.
PatriotsRepublic 2 years ago
Left hand corner of film--New World Order Officer! LOL
millersxtremedepot 2 years ago 3
Sue the piglets. You have video evidence and I'm sure some greedy lawyer will be happy to do so if he thinks he can get some money out of it.
jsruss1961 2 years ago 16
sounds like a great idea lets orginize one after december !st but lets do it on the forum
cabman1231 2 years ago
You will NEVER WIN AN ARGUMENT with police. They are ALWAYS right...even if they're wrong. They can do whatever they want at the expense of your wallet. Either assert your 5th amendment rights and, with a firm but polite voice, tell him that you would like to continue on unless they have an actual violation on you. Continue this same statement with every question. They have your ID. They know EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO KNOW about you with it. That's why it's called an ID!
futurevent 2 years ago
I definitely agree with everything you've said.
LEZ1063 2 years ago
agreed. police today seem to overextend their power and they are always right even when you prove them wrong. i don't think its right and i wish we had a decent way of reform to get rid of this joke that we call the police. i know a lot of cops are good and i have encountered both sides and want the ignorant to be fired.
mycrimsonregrets 2 years ago
I like the videos due to the fact that I used to be a cop. The cops got this guy just yapping at the gums just trying to get him to say something that will give them a reason to run him in. Again, continuing to talk to them is a BAD IDEA! It's the same junk over and over again with the banter. The cops are tag teaming here, but most folks just don't see it. "Officer, if I've done something wrong I won't resist arrest. But if I'm clean, I'd like to be on my way if you don't mind."
futurevent 2 years ago 31
Bingo Arguing W/ a cop gets you NOWHERE Officer, am I free to go? if the answer is "No" ask for a lawyer and shut up.
johnmaylivesv 2 years ago
@futurevent
Wise words, and absolute truth.
The blatant attempt to intimidate here is infuriating as well. These officers need to be terminated immediately.
GR40GT 1 year ago
@futurevent
i agree i've seen a lot of these videos and debating with the officers never works.
opisex 1 year ago
@opisex it would work if they didnt have the gun and badge on, but you take that shit off them they are weak cowards
xterrorizinboys88 1 year ago 2
@futurevent cops like you give us hope
SteveNathen 1 year ago
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pettyofficer30 10 months ago
"That's why I called the prosecutors office to see what we can do with this guy"
I bet the prosecuted laughed or sighed and said "Nothing, unless you want to face a lawsuit yourself"
LEZ1063 2 years ago 3
Are we invited Paul Albrecht to the winter OC rally in Jackson, MI? I'd love to have him as a guest, and hell, I'll even organize this event.
LEZ1063 2 years ago
Inviting, excuse me.
LEZ1063 2 years ago