Tim Curry and Gary Oldman singing M.O.T.H.E.R. - Schmoedipus

[sugarland588275]

How can I possibly choose my favorite???!!! OK, I pick...Tim's voice and Gary's face. Fair? :)

[inanotherlife1]

Tim's voice is superior in technique and tone. Plus, his version fits the play. The character is supposed to be innocent and seductive, and seductive is what Tim Curry does best!

[SpiderXxPirate]

Both of their voices are delicious <3

[MisterOfan]

It's always Gary for me, what a voice. He makes me melty. <3

[SarahMarsters1]

Tim, without a doubt! His voice..it's so deep and sensual. I love it :)

[charliekaiser]

Gary, every time, hands down, amazing, totally amazing :-)

[caterpillargirl84]

@charliekaiser I couldn't agree more!

[Yodelhey]

Both wonderfully talented men giving equally good performances.

No need to choose a favourite, I think I'll just enjoy them both!

...but man alive! When Gary Oldman sings "caresses"!!

[CheatingMimee]

Can you even imagine Tim Curry looking at you like that? Mmm.

I adore Gary, but I prefer him much older.

[lovagecos]

Tim Curry wins this. BEST. SINGER AND PERSON. EVER!!!

[TeamEdwardx94]

I love Tim Curry and Gary Oldman SO MUCH! They are just... amazing.

[GothicLolitaDaisy]

tim wins one million times over :) his voice is just relaxes you

[yamilayes13]

ohhh my god!!! tim tim tim <3

[Nenetl]

so sweet

[secretlovechild87]

gary's so HOT!! and talented, so you know I heard that he really does play the paino nad even plays the guitar, frakin' beautiful!!

[DeathLetter94]

anyone have the sheet music for this?

[DeathLetter94]

@DeathLetter94 oh, nevermind, i saw your link:)

[stacyk4]

aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh tim curry can sing to me any time fing sexy and the sound of his voice really shows it

[morningchaps]

For the love of nuts, has Tim Curry sung ANYTHING that didn't come across as sexually threatening!?!

[CurryAxl]

@morningchaps

ahaha, I don' t think so XD but this situation quite suits me XDXD tim is so charming and wonderful while singing...and whatever he is doing!! :)

[gateen22]

damn oldman looked good back then! don't get me wrong so did tim curry, I do have to agree that mr curry rocks the song. But I have to say oldman and curry are both fracking awesome actors

[plunkza]

Has anyone actually got a copy of Schmoedipus? From looking around it's quite literally impossible to find. I'd give anything to see it.

[plunkza]

Never mind, I didn't read the disclaimer.

[MsRock4eva]

gary isnt as cute as tim

or as good a singer

[MsRock4eva]

gary isnt as cute as tim

[akoryzm]

O god...my two beautiful guys :)

[Siriusiana]

Thanks for posting... Gary is too too adorable... sigh...

[lapislazuli7]

Track 29 is a very interesting movie, worth watching!

I had no idea Tim Curry played the same part. Thank you!!!

[TomatoDreams]

As much as I love Oldman, my heart has always been owned by Curry. This proves why.

[rainingfrogs]

Thanks for sharing this gem footage. I've never seen it before this.

[Soscla]

Naw, Gary is a cutie, but Tim is just SEX! And when he said "More? You want more?" "Yes, my darling, yes" if I would be part of that conversation it would be in a completely different context, if y'all catch mah drift! xD

[JoTheAnomaly]

I love Tim Curry. He is one of the few people that I don't know that I hold close to my heart <3

[rockyhansen]

cant help but draw the connection, tim as mozart in amadeus and gary as ludwig in immortal beloved...

oh, if only tim curry really was mozart, he woudl be god

[inanotherlife1]

@SpiderXxPirate Tim Curry was the original Mozart on Broadway. He was nominated for a Tony but lost to Ian McKellan who played Salieri.

[SpiderXxPirate]

@inanotherlife1 Nice!! I didn't know that! I'd kill to see that

[inanotherlife1]

@SpiderXxPirate Sad, but true story. I had tickets to see Tim in Amadeus. When I got to the theater, I found out that he was on sabbatical for month while he was filming Annie. When I had tickets for Spamalot, I went to the theater 6 hours early, just to make sure he was there. He was and was absolutely amazing!

[GoldenGardenias]

It's a hard choice, really... They both sound lovely. I might have to go with Gary here though, I don't know... there is just something about his voice here... and anyone who has scene the movie will say it's interesting... but there is an almost, innocence in his version of the song that I really like...

[userbeckyfanricks]

tim curry look like he 25 and hot

[JackMcFarlandFan1]

I <3 Tim Curry with everythig in me

[fallenidol13]

Oh my god Tim Curry he IS my God. His voice is the most amazing thing Iever heard. Gary's performance is good but it lacks the same heart.

[emilyg21]

Oh, dear. If I was the actress playing the mother, it would take everything in my will power to not just rape Tim then and there.

Beeeautiful voice!!!

[carusozgrl4lfe]

You're not alone there,hun lmfaoo Ahh gotta love Tim<33

[FantasmaLuna]

Love Gary, but I kind of like Tim Curry's version better. It's more intimate, but who cares, eh? Knowing that it's both Tim Curry AND Gary Oldman has got to be awesome. They're both amazing!

[crazyazcordova]

Ever seen The Fifth Element or Hannibal? Bram Stoker's Dracula?

Just to mention a few...

I also prefer Tim Curry. His voice is such a rich silky seduction

[kyrastube]

he has played dracula, joe orton, sid vicious, zorg (fifth element), and harry potters godfather black to mention a few. he is amazing

[carusozgrl4lfe]

If that were me at 4:51 I would've broken character and pulled him right back to me lol Man I probably would've lost my job but it would've been worth it for kiss with tim curry lol :)

[malfoysbabexoxo]

Oh my God, Tim curry's voice <3 He could sing me right to sleep. You can hear the love, and emotion so clearly in his voice. And I agree, tripilexx001, extremely seductive ;)

[LadyDonegan]

I looooooove Tim Curry's version is there an audio version of this?

[DarkPhantom788]

I am a big fan of both theese men. I think they do this song great, but I believe I like Gary's version the best because he is no trained singer, unlike Tim, and he usually doesn't sing, so it get's more interesting :)

[bigfloret]

I vote for Gary Oldman's Version, because he is my favourite actor *love* and the situation and relationship is more real to me. Tim Curry is great too ;)

[MilesStauffe]

The Oldman (1988) version is available as the DVD called 'Track 29', a reworking of 'Schmoedipus'. Only as far as I know, available in Europe - but it's on Amazon!

[ABookByAnyOtherName]

Yeah Tim deffinitely brings more to the song, and gives it less and more feeling at the same time. Gary's version is too cheerful, Tim's is more soft and sweet with underlinded passion.

[tripilexx001]

Tim Curry was more seductive ...

[Bamzoni241]

I'm just like you. I heard Gary's version first, but I can't help but love Tim Curry's more. But they're both amazingly wonderful to listen to. Thanks for uploading!

[VampireErin]

Oh my god. They are both sooo amazing!! I can't believe this! It's amazing!!!

I wish the timing was right, though!!

[badandtheugly]

Holly God what a find thanks for putting this on.

[EcstaticShaman]

Wow, you can find almost anything on YouTube!! Cool upload!

[hassony3]

Thanks a lot, Bonny! I didn't know it might be possible to find Rock Follies on Youtube. I mostly remember the fun and human warmth of Rock Follies, but I am surprised to see now what a lavish and grand production it was! Those staircase dresses, absolutely high-class! We didn't understand back then just how fantastic it was, did we? We just took it for granted. There hasn't been anything to rival Rock Follies in decades, now at last we understand! Thank you so much, Bonny!

[hassony3]

Tim Curry's voice is incredible! I just listened to a tape from 1977 I made from television of the famous Shakespeare series. And I remembered every line. No chance of seeing any Shakespeare on Youtube. Tim Curry IS Shakespeare, so wonderfully eloquent, so incredibly intlelectual, so incredibly gorgeous and sexy! Can one get that series on video or DVD?

[BonnyBP]

Actually it was on here, some of the Shakespeare series, but it's been removed just a few days ago. I'm very cross about it.

[hassony3]

Thanks so much, BonnyBP, for letting me know. I'm just a few days late, aren't I! How stupid! I also had Tim Curry's lines from Rock Follies on tape (just an audio cassette since there were no VHS machines in those days), but it was almost inaudible. That's another wonderful series I'd love to get on DVD! Julie Kavner (something), and Miss Rula Lenska, and of course Tim Curry to whom their energy belonged! Fantastic! If you have any influence, Bonny, please make Shakespeare come back!

[BonnyBP]

I'll do my best... in the mean time TC's Rock Folly Street Signs is still on the Tube. You'll have to be real quick with downloading things like that though! They disappear before you notice!

[BohemianBaby]

Tim still looks like Frank-N-Furter here(no surprise, this came out first!)

[computerorphone]

Tim is amazingly sexy I love him so much!

[superjasmina]

Gary Oldman^^

[againagain88]

While I do love Tim Curry's voice and acting ability, Gary Oldman is absolutely spectacular. He is just such a diverse and talented performer-- but then, as is Tim.

All the same, my vote goes to Mr. Oldman

[TC78obsessed]

Tim Curry all the way! he looks so sweet and his voice is perfect. so cute here...i'm sure his mother is very honored and proud. from what i hear she was a secretary and his father was like a priest or something. he's really made something of himself from chior boy to famous actor and singer! way to go, Tim!

[Dravenswraith]

his dad was a navy chaplin

[MorbidKittyProd]

idk i like them both, but prefer Gary... it's not as overacted.... sorry!!! i love Tim -- always have since I saw him in ANNIE as a 5 year old (i'm 27 now).... but - to me he belts it out in such a way it comes off as overacted... to ME... :/

(i know i'm gonna get flack for that, but it's MY opinion)

[kyrastube]

I just got track 29 today. I have had an *illegal* copy of the original for 5 years now, a friend in england gave me that one. allways loved it. but now I cant decide witch I like better.

tim curry vs gary oldman. thats a hard choise! ^^

but I like track 29 since its longer and darker. and mr. lloyd is splended, in the original, all actors but tim sucks bigtime

[LasBerlin]

ohh TIm Curry... absolutely genious...*dreamig*

[siriusizhot]

OMG i love gary oldman in this!!

[Sshelly34213]

AW Tim Curry just oozes charisma and what a voice! Seriously I just want to hug him, he's so cute and lovable.

[bugsmomwithjktaylor]

gary oldman is the most wonderful amazing incredible person in the world. i have a tendency to refer to him as dad.

[fuzzybluebunnies]

I do love both of them

[Tim more XD]

but I think Tim's voice was better for this song, I haven't heard anything of Tim's I didn't like though.

[LeeCee14]

Tim has got a very nice voice

[markjv]

seems like this would b a good song for rufus wainwright to sing :)

[kwill81]

I like them both, they are both good singers but I liked Curry's version better.

[qkeck]

Curry and Oldman are two of my fav actors ever. Great seeing this comparison - both great in their own way - but I gotta go with Curry as the better of the two, this time ;0)

[frankiefan91]

Tim curry is simpley devine!

his voice is brilliant and seems much better suited to the song than gary's.

[oh5girl]

Thank you for posting, and I'm curious, what about a copy of the American remake? Where can I see the whole film?

[MissMalfoy1]

I love Gary Oldman!! is one of my favourite actor!

[josiemom]

It's really interesting to see both versions side by side. As far as comparing them, I'm at a disadvantage in that I've never seen "Track 29". I CAN say, however, that Tim Curry's performance of the song fits perfectly into the whole tone of "Schmoedipus". To call it too sexual is to utterly miss the point...of COURSE it's sexual. It's supposed to be. If it makes the viewer uncomfortable, it does precisely what it's intended to do. And Tim's singing voice is divine. :-)

[kyrastube]

by the way. I havent seen both versions, only the one with tim (there are more than one copy and I have one) but I read somewhere that gary didnt manage to make the caracter both as sexual and terrefying as tim did it. but then again, I have not seen both of them. but the one with tim is brilliant, he manage to get right between adorable and scary in a splended way

[AshLuvsJonnyStew]

As far as singing goes Curry is a far better singer, but Gary is still my favorite just because I love him to bits!

[FirstClassHeel]

Thank you! That's exactly how I feel.

[kyrastube]

both tim and gary are brilliant. and good looking men too. :)

[xallyouneedislove]

Tim Curry is amazing. Although I like Gary's, its very hard to beat a voice like Tim's. I love the looks he gives her, and his accent when he says "alright then"

^__^

[tmb4466]

is gary oldman's hair red?

[Orsonbabe]

Iam a Gary Oldman fan so obviously I love him singing . Tim did a good job but everytime I hear him sing I think of when he played the villain "Rooster" in Annie

[AirandSun80]

I love Tim Curry.

[SpocksSister08]

I prefer tim curry. The mother in the second one looks too young, but I haven't seen the film so maybe there is a reason why they did that?

[josiemom]

What's interesting is that Anna Cropper - the mother in Schmoedipus (the Tim Curry version of the story) was only 8 years older than Tim! She was born 5/13/38, and died in February of '07.

[SpocksSister08]

wow! she looks much older. They must have done a good job with the make up!

[eleanorpowell2007]

To be fair (although I favour Tim Curry's rendition) I believe each version is influenced by the times. Tim Curry's original version fits with the early 70s in England, and Gary's is adequate with America's late 80s. Different trends and different performances adapted to the times.

[marebito13]

Tim Curry sings it better. He has the most unique sound to his singing and speaking voice. When he sang it he brought forth feeling from it and made it feel believable. I like Gary Oldman but his version seemed too distant and cold. His performance just felt detached.

[khanoh89]

Gary Oldman has a far better singing voice and vocal range. Curry's is thick, breathy and horrible.

[eleanorpowell2007]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh! Sacrilege!!!!!! Oh dear, a rush of blood went to my head :) Hehe, that is your opinion, which is fine, but...... (read with a kind tone of voice now) You are so, so, so wrong... :)

[khanoh89]

Curry is a lej, but his artsy-fartsy delivery does nothing for me - Oldman sings it straight, and better.

[kyrastube]

no way! tim is a great singer! he sang in a quir (not sure if I spelled that right) since he was 11.

[josiemom]

"Gary Oldman has a far better singing voice and vocal range."

In what universe? ;-) Sorry, totally disagree. Tim Curry's voice has a power, vibrato and richness that Gary Oldman's just doesn't. You may not care for Curry's delivery, but it suits "Schmoedipus" perfectly. Maybe Oldman's does for "Track 29", I wouldn't know, but it wouldn't have worked nearly as well in "Schmoedipus".

[kittymouse86]

@khanoh89 More like thick, breathy and delicious.

[LinnendeBlack]

Gary's is better.

[FirstClassHeel]

Because it isn't as creepy as Curry's?

[LinnendeBlack]

No because I am in love with Gary Oldman lol.

[FirstClassHeel]

Oh, fair enough.

[alanapartyrave]

tims version bye far its amazing !!!!!! i lovee tim x

[LaFlambeuse]

I think it's "chopsticks". :)

[yesterdaysgirl56]

umm i can't make up my mind, because tim's voice is wonderful.

[Arinna88]

Oldman's version is good, but Curry's has a very, very creepy quality to it. It makes more sense in terms of the whole "Oedipal complex" thing.

[Snakathos]

I've been a fan of Gary Oldman for so long! But I must admit that Tim Curry's version is far better.

[gretchenpc]

I love 'em both. Fans of both actors. Bit more of an Oldman fan...but I saw Tim as King Arthur in Spamalot...from the front row/center...and I've had a healthy admiration for him since. He's amazingly talented.

But I prefer Gary's here...because...it's Gary. And I love him like a fat kid loves cake.

[randi127]

Tim's is the best- of course! =) I'm glad you kind of explained what the movie is about, 'cause I saw this video a couple of months ago and thought it was REALLY creepy if they were really supposed to be mother & son.... As for Tim- he's got the sexiest voice I've ever heard. I wish his music career was more extensive than it was. I've been lucky enough to collect just about every song he's ever done, and they're incredible. Such a wide array of genres. He's wonderful and I love, love, love him!

[LaFlambeuse]

Tim Curry version, obviously. :)

He does a kind of Al Jolson "mammy" thing at the end of the song, when he changes from soft and sweet to a cabaret-esque performance. He is SO cool.

[bethblasius]

The Gary Oldman Version of course.

[bethblasius]

This is actually from the movie Track 29. The entire movie is creepy and disturbing, yet brilliant!

[DeaconBlues]

Wow. As much as I love Gary Oldman in whatever he does, there is simply no question as to who has the best rendition of this song. Something like this truly shows that even outside of Rocky Horror, Tim Curry owns in the darkly & sultry song department. Fantastic upload!

[eleanorpowell2007]

Just in case someone is interested in the sheet music in order to play this old tune on the piano, please read the full description for this video on the left, below 'About This Video' you will have to click on 'more' in order to open the complete info and at the bottom I added a website where you can find really good scans of the music and lyrics.

[brandnewyork48]

does anybody know where I could get the sheet music for this song free. i need it for my singing exam and i'm not old enough to own a credit card so i really can't spend anything and i need it fast, HELP!

[eleanorpowell2007]

I wish I could help you, the only place on the net where I found the sheet music (a long time ago) was a commercial site so it was only available if you purchased it. I needed it too some time ago and had no luck at all. I will take a look to other online source and will let you know. When do you have your exam?

[brandnewyork48]

in like a month.

[sgtpepperx3]

God, what a gorgeous voice Tim Curry has. He makes me melt!

[FirstClassHeel]

Yeah. His version of that song just sounds so...wrong, considering how sexual his singing is. I don't know whether to be turned on or sick.

[eleanorpowell2007]

Click on the video's info (MORE) at the top right and you'll find what this story is all about, obviously it plays with that mother-son love/hate relationship. Although this story is not exactly the same, for is the mother's imagination creating this adult son and all the flirting going on. She killed him as a baby. Heh, click on 'more'.

[brandnewyork48]

does anyone know by any chance if schmoedipus is anything to do with freud's oedipus theory? 'cos i have to do research.

[alspence]

I'm so glad this exists. This is incredible!

[grannie530]

Wow, you are blowing my MIND!!!!!

[turtleboy689]

is that really gary oldman singing? I had no idea that he could

[alspence]

not only can he sing, he can also play the piano!

[Melaku]

the tim curry one is by far the creepier of the two

[eleanorpowell2007]

I agree. It might be because of the contrast; he starts really sweet and soft and then, with the second verse, he switches into this very threatening and dominant persona with a powerful and loud voice.

[crazeeshhhh]

actually I think he's just naturally creepy

[FirstClassHeel]

Yes! Thank you! It's like I said before: "His version of that song just sounds so...wrong, considering how sexual his singing is. I don't know whether to be turned on or sick."

[mamy101]

Does anyone know of someone else who has sung this song[m.o.t.h.e.r]other than these two men?

[eleanorpowell2007]

There are countless variations of this song, many artists have been adapting new lyrics with this tune, but I don't know of any more 'mother' interpretations. Now it only comes to my mind that Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra did sing this song together but with different lyrics in the film Anchors Aweigh' (1945). The song is over 100 years old and the composer was Theodore Morse.

[mamy101]

Thank you very much for the answer.I will do some research.

[eleanorpowell2007]

I've just found 11 more versions of 'MOTHER' !! The list is not complete, for it does not include Tim Curry and Gary Oldman's versions. (Check your messages, the link is there)

[Grayelven]

I too am a big fan of both actors. I don't know if Curry plays and instruments but aside from all his musical theatre and films, he recorded 3 albums that I know of...because I have all of them. 1) fearless 2)read my lips 3)simplicity. Gary Oldman also sings on the sid and nancy soundtrack.

[thina82]

and by the way, I have a copy of the version with tim. :) its truly amazing!

[filmwolf9000]

will you post it? i've only seen track 29 and am desperate to now see the tim curry version

[thina82]

gary has a nice voice to, I didnt know that. and how young and cute he was. :)

but tim is the KING in my world

[Icegoaliemom29]

I had no idea Track 29 was a remake either. Thanks very much for posting this information! It was very interesting and I absolutely love Tim Curry. I do lean towards Gary's version though but that is just because of my personal "obsession" with the man.LOL

[tallyrulz]

does anybody know if Tim does play the piano?

[tcfan123]

In a radio interview he did back in 1979(while on tour)someone asked him if he played any instruments. His reply was that he played about 4 chords on the piano and no one would want to pay to hear him play.

[tallyrulz]

thank you

i would pay to hear him play ;)

[thina82]

I dont know about the piano, bur I do know he speaks perfect frenche. and then again, is there ANYTHING he cant do?

[tallyrulz]

yeh, i think there's nothing sexier than British guy who speaks french :p imagine when it's Tim Curry!

[Knoxvicious]

I totally didn't know Track 29 was a remake either! Cool!

[eleanorpowell2007]

'Track 29' is a bit more popular because there is a VHS and it's been on TV a few times. Somehow most people assumed it was an original film. Schmoedipus is a quite a rare gem. If I would live in NY I'd go today to watch it.

[AAparallel]

Yeah, Gary's version appears in a movie called Track 29...I didn't know it was a remake!