Rome - From Republic to Empire: Octavian vs Mark Antony (part 2)

[steelworth12]

octavian is by far the best ruler of rome and i great to share the name with the man

[Blake4014]

3:35 the glory of the Roman Empire. But not well deserved me thinks.

[1290001]

GO Octavian Cesar one of the Greatest Next to Julius Gaius Cesar good thing Octavian beat Mark Antony and Cleopatra!

Because Cleopatra was a Slut!

[Killzoneguy117]

I greatly admire Octavian personally. History looks at Marc Antony as this tragic hero. So full of shit. Marc Antony was an ambitious, power hungry brute who was more of a warrior than a politician and was so weak when it came to emotions that he was brought down to a pathetic puppet of Cleopatra. Octavian was ruthless and cunning. Unlike Antony, he wasn't tied down by emotions and when the situation called for it, he was capable of making impossible decisions all for the common good.

[KayBeeEee1983]

Rome stopped being a Republic when the Senate became the head of state. The Senate was more or less hereditary.

[Michaeltanase]

Anybody know the name of the song towards the end?

[1goodmanyourself2]

I'd bang actress playin cleopatra

[37zeus37]

crap - from the second triumvirate to after actium with nothing in between

[EROSGODOFGAYS]

All of the Roman Emperors up through Constantine (306-337 AD) had male lovers and/or male husbands, along with female wives. This is historical fact.

[IceEyedBlackWolf]

Wow.. so Cleopatra just seduced everyone that came into her path and she wanted something to move up in the world?

[Miauriceful]

Where is Anthony's wife Fulvia Flacca Bambula? She was a remarkable woman, but I see, americans don't like her.

[otto3663]

Octavian liked the company of men

[mrsotter19]

@otto3663 This is true for most men. Some men have the ability to be friends with women but most just want a woman around for the obvious reasons.

[mareble412]

so octavian was gay??????

[Str4t0sPh3rE]

They recorded Marc Anthony's sexual intercourse at 2:53 in the the history books? o.0

[SodaMan2000]

Boobies @1:22

[histatimaniples]

hbo's rome's history is twisted just like their choice in characters

[deltapunk21]

they were not xenophobic that stupid word is a typical leftist swillow used by ignorant fags who no nothing about anything the Romans were loyal and correct Anthoyn was a traitor culturally for a ho bag and disgraced his wife and treated her like shit

[strategus999]

@deltapunk21

Yes another PC bs comming from Londonistan, United Emirates of Al-Britaniya. But the film is decent by itself if you ignore their selfhated fueled drivels and concentrate on facts.



[yamsid]

I've never known whether to admire Octavian or be terrified of him. He was obviously brilliant but so is Satan.

[Juhnimus]

@yamsid

That why he was best ruler Rome could hope, he knew when use sword and when words, i say that you should admire him as should these days politicians.

[TheMessiah95]

what song is used at the end please

[Princepsmaximus]

@TheMessiah95

"My Name is Lincoln".

[TheMessiah95]

@Princepsmaximus Thanks!!

[TheMessiah95]

@Princepsmaximus Thanks

[ThePeeterd]

@TheMessiah95

ennia

[VeroMithril]

the end is just epic. Make me think of how much of culture and art we had lost with the fall of the empire. The dark age just finish the job murdering the last roman imperial buildings and places.

Damn ignorance.

[nehciny]

3:55 goose bumps!

[obiwanfx]

2.50 is he analing her or is that just me?

[huyhuyhuytae]

1:24

[Strategos300]

I really liked this. I enjoyed, great with clips from "Rome". I actully did never like that show, but to show the most greatest and important clips makes this video great. Thumbs up!

[Evocati2008]

Augustus was a tyrant, nothing more, nothing less. What did he leave behind, but a system that was not precise, that led to the biggest monsters known in thier respective times. He reset the stage for total domination of the Roman soceity, yet opened the old wounds of Sulla and Marius, mainly being the force of the legions as the predominant factor as to whom would succeed whom. Hardly ground breaking.

[mysticdark1]

@Evocati2008 yeah the succeeded emperors were horrible but it did leave a way for the 5 greatest emperors. Plus he was able to hold peace and keep the people happy, that is pretty damn ground breaking. sure he was ruthless in the beginning but when he became princeps he didnt overindulge. he lived modest

[theyellowjesters]

sounds like the music from avatar or soething :S

[Partylurker]

sdDCCXZCXCCX u pathetic loser never get laid huh? Marc Anthony was a God among men go back to ur Texan gay bar u fukkin slave of Carthage

[SIPGirl1]

great documentary

[TheWhisperingPeace]

The "soundtrack" at the end of this video is a piece called "My Name Is Lincoln" from the movie "The Island." It is an instrumental piece, written by Steve Jablonsky and is also used in the Lifetime movie trailer for "Prayers for Bobby."

[ssw1989]

Caesar pick the right man to succeed him. HAHA!!!

[quillendaniel]

Well I guess if one takes the scene symbolically one could come to that conclusion ( not that the people actually stood up and blew trumphets and waved silken hankerchiefs with naked abandon) ; in any case that show of appreciation seems over the top and tasteless and quite cliched; there must be a better symbolic representative scene that can be thought of to accurately portray what the people really thought......

[Alanofthemountains]

Well, the triumphs really were like that. What we have to understand is that those were not the cynical citizens of today's countries, and that they were cheering not some politician, but literally to them a god, and the ruler of the known world.

[Alanofthemountains]

The triumphs of Rome were massive, gaudy and hedonistic to the max, but not even Vicero, heck, not even Pliny, really protested them, because to the Romans they were as much for the crowd as the triumvir, the ultimate symbol of Roman mastery over what to them was all of existence.

That said I still want to know what the music at the end is.

[Princepsmaximus]

Sorry, but i don´t know the name of the soundtrack any longer.

[KingoftheGods123]

@Alanofthemountains

ITs called "My name is lincoln" by steve jablonsky

[Princepsmaximus]

Romans just were happy that there now would return peace and order, that the political chaos and misgovernment of the senatorial rule would be stopped, that the downfall of the roman nation would be reversed and that the inner fightings and divisions would finally have an end. Life would return into the exhausted empire - and within that prosperity and national unity. You maybe can compare the scenes after the end of the civil war to that what happened 1989 in Germany.

[Princepsmaximus]

Alanofthemountains described it in a good way. The triumph of Octavian in 29 B.C. was something special. Normally triumphs were for generals who had won a decisive battle or a whole war, but Octavian had won t h e battle, t h e war. After endless times of anarchy and inner divisions he was the one to open the gate into a new age. He had achieved a position and a power no one had possessed before him. He now was the ruler of what romans called the world at that time.

[quillendaniel]

even during Octavian's reign......

[Princepsmaximus]

Today most people may not be able to reconstruct that, but Romans after the ending of the civil war and one hundred years of disorder and inner fightings really were grateful to Octavian/Augustus for bringing back order and peace to the roman world. They saw him as saviour and finisher of roman history and expressed their feelings for him in many tributes and glorifications. So the scene at the end is realistic (although the real triumph was bigger - i suppose).

[quillendaniel]

The end reminds me of

Dick Cheney assertion

that when we invade iraq

we will be greeted by roses and flowers.........I doubt the reality was all the simple and rosy.......

[NJRocks281]

they were greeted by roses and flowers at first in Iraq. Then the foreign fighters started pouring in, and sectarian violence spoiled the mood.

[Alanofthemountains]

Does anyone know what the music at the end is?

[acerb45666555]

2:21..........see that statue! i think thats the real Cleopatra! one homely chick! Julius Caesar and Mark Antony both had bad eyesight!!

[MarcusCMarcellus]

"Romans were very xenophobic people..." Amazing how they manage to get politically correct propaganda into every documentary, no matter what the subject. Fact is, Anthony HAD become an Egyptian asshole, corrupted into extreme luxury, make-up and un-Stoic ways. Is there no reprise from the PC jives by British academics? Just surrender your little island to Islam and move to Australia already if you feel so strongly about "xenophobia."

[BiffaTW]

i no lol.

[bigbossman999]

Wow easy there nutjob..

[decebal1969]

I like Roman history, my italic ancestors...

[Blackmax2112]

How do you get away with producing a "film" based on the merits of others?  (HBO) Slice it, cut it whatever, but this is copyright infringement. Surprised HBO doesn't take you to court.

[Princepsmaximus]

If you would persecute copyright infringement consistently you would have to close whole youtube.

[Blackmax2112]

That is true. I don't have much of a problem of you showing clips of HBO Rome. I just don't think you should be calling it your own film. (karolinger film) when it contains the work of others.

[Princepsmaximus]

But now one on youtube could make clips without using footage from films. Okay, you could film something with your webcam, but probably that would be scum.

[ElysiumFilms]

*****

[Jizuschrist]

Mark Anthony would have been a more monstrous ruler had he won.

Cleopatra may have planned to betray Anthony and make Caesarion emperor and herself defacto ruler, Cleopatra was the greater man in that union.

Octavian outplayed them both.

[Alexandros1294]

@Jizuschrist Antony might have been a bad ruler, but he was still the ultimate badass of the Late Roman Republic.

[ThaiBox7788]

@Jizuschrist Antony would have probably been assassanated just like Caesar had he beaten Octavian

[KayBeeEee1983]

@Jizuschrist "Mark Anthony would have been a more monstrous ruler had he won. Cleopatra may have planned to betray Anthony and make Caesarion emperor and herself defacto ruler, Cleopatra was the greater man in that union."

Rome never would have accepted Caesarion as their leader because he wasn't Roman. The reason most Romans sided with Octavius was because of Antony's relationship with Cleopatra, a non-Roman.

[Jizuschrist]

HBO Rome is the shit!

[csrtitus]

I feel so proud watching this and most of your other videos.  I am of Italian decent so that kinda helps with the pride. However I am American and have no real ties to Italy.

[sdDCCXZCXCCX]

why would you be proud? There is nothing to be proud of and much to be disgraced and embarrrassed about.

[csrtitus]

@sdDCCXZCXCCX I am proud of it all....even the disgraces.

[sdDCCXZCXCCX]

I don't remember the intial comment. Rome is a very good movie but there is no need for the disgraceful sex scene/s - why are they neeeded? they do nothing for the movie and are not needed except to draw degenerates

[fleurgi]

but i think it decipts how the romans were. even though i agree that some of it is distasteful but the romans had very different views on sex then modern society and i think that is what the scenes are trying to convey

[juliusyeung0330]

@sdDCCXZCXCCX well... Romans were very sexual...

:) they liked sex a lot.

[ImperialGuard9001]

Octavian was great leader he found the Empire of Rome!May we honor him hmm first comment xD.