nah, again, alan watts is quite inconclusive. the best way to see how alan deals with pain would be to grab his finger and break it. its easy to say things like duality, escape, etc, but its not always so. what about real pain, like a bang in the head, stomach pain, etc, the more I listen to this guy the more I realize much of what he says is pretty bland and doesnt stand
what he is talking about,many people see as pure bullshit ...but believe me it has now scientific prove, they analyzed the brain functions of people which have chronical pain issues, and they told them not to concentrate on the pain but not to think about anything,or at least concentrate on an other part of the body ... the patients said that the pain would go down by 60 to 80%..illuminati terrorists wars etc people try to sell us so many things that we sometimes forget just to BREATHE
@cosmicmantis not really. many great people were understood. i understand what hes saying but it doesnt really stand. after you watch this vid, bounce your head off a wall and see how you feel about alan watts view on pain.
@stellarshore Then again greatness is relative and doesn't exist... Then again, he was just saying that we should not separate ourselves from pain and create more pain from the resistance... Then again... whdasjzkzjsjassjjsjjjj
@cosmicmantis No. Again, im not over complicating anything. Basically hes taking mostly bullshit about pain. Would it not have been easier for him to just bound his head off a wall and prove his point instead?? Its kind of a cop out
@stellarshore Well, why don't you make a video as a response and prove your point because you're doing the same thing you claim Watts to be doing... just talking... o.o
@cosmicmantis Look, if you want to believe his point on pain then go ahead. But hes raving on about something that he simply wont put to the test. Id have been very impressed had he just broke his finger and THEN talk piously about pain.
@stellarshore Let me put it this way; we separate things to understand them. In a rainbow, we say there are seven colors, right? We narrow it down to seven because it is those seven that are distinct from each other and make it easier for us to understand but in reality, are there really just seven? There is a multitude of colors in between the seven named, what might or might not be an infinite amount. This same rule applies to the world at large, including emotion. We separate what we know as
@cosmicmantis "pain" from the entire emotional spectrum to better understand it. As Gurdjieff said, we are "three brained beings" in the sense that we have sexual desire, emotion and thought. This we can see as the mechanism of the human being. In other words, you are what you feel, think and lust. That right there shows the infinite complexity of what we truly are and to say we are "red, blue, green" (using my rainbow metaphor) would be to narrow down this wonderful complexity into something
@cosmicmantis that doesn't do it much justice. We all feel pain, right? So then if we all feel pain, why resist it? Because it hurts, right? Well of course it is our first impulse to escape pain because it is not pleasurable and we all enjoy pleasure with minor exceptions, right? So then if you were to feel pain and your response to the pain is to escape it and "push it out", sort of speak, then you are rejecting what you are and almost cutting a piece off from your self. The pain does not leave
@stellarshore because you ignore it but rather gets stuck in this perpetual motion around you, always trying to find its way back to the source, which is you (I realize I've been responding to my own comments and might have mixed some of them up so excuse my lack of attention). When that pain is stuck in that perpetual motion outside of you, it creates a void in your self that was once filled by your capacity to feel pain. The void brings about more pain. "What you resist will only persist".
@stellarshore Only until you let the pain enter and go back to its rightful place can you once again go back to the wholeness that you are. It is also my belief that the lacking to feel pain hurts self and others because of the "jadedness" brought on by it. This is my understanding of it at least and has been proven to me by personal experience. I hope that shed some light on the subject.
Comment removed
somotastic21 4 weeks ago
Comment removed
somotastic21 1 month ago
Comment removed
somotastic21 1 month ago
This is quite alright in my opinion.
Very harmonious.
I am reminded of a Jung quote:
"All insanity comes from inability to endure legitimate suffering."
It is not a fun thing to prove, but it is the way it is, I suppose.
good post, Thanks.
alaric63 1 month ago
Anyone know what talk this is from?
magicalray93 2 months ago
"True pain is agony: when it is not the body that is harmed, but the soul"
92451721921892113 3 months ago
nah, again, alan watts is quite inconclusive. the best way to see how alan deals with pain would be to grab his finger and break it. its easy to say things like duality, escape, etc, but its not always so. what about real pain, like a bang in the head, stomach pain, etc, the more I listen to this guy the more I realize much of what he says is pretty bland and doesnt stand
stellarshore 4 months ago
@stellarshore thats because your putting up an ego,
you dont get it yet,
if you want to you will.
willie1490 4 months ago
what he is talking about,many people see as pure bullshit ...but believe me it has now scientific prove, they analyzed the brain functions of people which have chronical pain issues, and they told them not to concentrate on the pain but not to think about anything,or at least concentrate on an other part of the body ... the patients said that the pain would go down by 60 to 80%..illuminati terrorists wars etc people try to sell us so many things that we sometimes forget just to BREATHE
NOyaPara 4 months ago
@stellarshore "To be great is to be misunderstood."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
@cosmicmantis not really. many great people were understood. i understand what hes saying but it doesnt really stand. after you watch this vid, bounce your head off a wall and see how you feel about alan watts view on pain.
stellarshore 3 months ago
@stellarshore Then again greatness is relative and doesn't exist... Then again, he was just saying that we should not separate ourselves from pain and create more pain from the resistance... Then again... whdasjzkzjsjassjjsjjjj
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
@cosmicmantis No. Again, im not over complicating anything. Basically hes taking mostly bullshit about pain. Would it not have been easier for him to just bound his head off a wall and prove his point instead?? Its kind of a cop out
stellarshore 3 months ago
@stellarshore Well, why don't you make a video as a response and prove your point because you're doing the same thing you claim Watts to be doing... just talking... o.o
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
@cosmicmantis Look, if you want to believe his point on pain then go ahead. But hes raving on about something that he simply wont put to the test. Id have been very impressed had he just broke his finger and THEN talk piously about pain.
stellarshore 3 months ago
@stellarshore Let me put it this way; we separate things to understand them. In a rainbow, we say there are seven colors, right? We narrow it down to seven because it is those seven that are distinct from each other and make it easier for us to understand but in reality, are there really just seven? There is a multitude of colors in between the seven named, what might or might not be an infinite amount. This same rule applies to the world at large, including emotion. We separate what we know as
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
@cosmicmantis "pain" from the entire emotional spectrum to better understand it. As Gurdjieff said, we are "three brained beings" in the sense that we have sexual desire, emotion and thought. This we can see as the mechanism of the human being. In other words, you are what you feel, think and lust. That right there shows the infinite complexity of what we truly are and to say we are "red, blue, green" (using my rainbow metaphor) would be to narrow down this wonderful complexity into something
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
@cosmicmantis that doesn't do it much justice. We all feel pain, right? So then if we all feel pain, why resist it? Because it hurts, right? Well of course it is our first impulse to escape pain because it is not pleasurable and we all enjoy pleasure with minor exceptions, right? So then if you were to feel pain and your response to the pain is to escape it and "push it out", sort of speak, then you are rejecting what you are and almost cutting a piece off from your self. The pain does not leave
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
@stellarshore because you ignore it but rather gets stuck in this perpetual motion around you, always trying to find its way back to the source, which is you (I realize I've been responding to my own comments and might have mixed some of them up so excuse my lack of attention). When that pain is stuck in that perpetual motion outside of you, it creates a void in your self that was once filled by your capacity to feel pain. The void brings about more pain. "What you resist will only persist".
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
@stellarshore Only until you let the pain enter and go back to its rightful place can you once again go back to the wholeness that you are. It is also my belief that the lacking to feel pain hurts self and others because of the "jadedness" brought on by it. This is my understanding of it at least and has been proven to me by personal experience. I hope that shed some light on the subject.
cosmicmantis 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I love you all.
toocoolotool218 5 months ago
do u know where i can get the whole talk?
TheKickasskatie 5 months ago
Great video! where can i get that image?
FlyinShoes66 5 months ago