summarize sad music, happy music, meaningful music, easy music, soft music, powerful music, old music, modern music, the history of music... it's all here in this piece.
The only thing I can quibble with here is the practice of playing a "double" note apoggiatura before certain trills. Chopin WROTE them out this way, but it is NOT meant to be played that way. She does this in a few places. Otherwise a very good if a tiny bit "nervous" sounding. Not nervous as in SHE was nervous, just nervous energy...
@Grigor99 You will find the explanation of this practice in many editions including the Paderewski where he states "The repetition of the principle note at the beginning(of trill) should be avoided. This does not exist in Chopin. To obviate this mistake, some editors have added an upper appoggiatura to the notation of these trills."
This is the Chopin piece that I want to play the most because it is such a grand, exciting piece of music. On his 200th birthday when I thought about his life and how much he has influenced me, I decided that his Barcarolle is the piece I would have played in his honor. I love how each passage seems like it's exploding and unfolding from the previous passage. This is just beautiful.
Very enchanting interpretation with exquisite rhythms that eventually led me to Ms Argerich's brilliant Mazurkas - after hearing this barcarolle, I was almost certain about her mazurkas though I had never heard them before and they were great performance too!
A consumate artist......exquisitely played.....Chopin probably would have envied her interpretation; as for the obscenities I read above, how crude and vulgar.....motivated by a dysfunctional and idiotic ---stupid......brainless......& truly UGLY mentality........
The comments here comparing Argerich to Horowitz I can say the career of Argerich is better than the Horowitz one. Yes Horowitz did delight us with his strong personal interpretations but he had lots of technical problems when older. this isn t the case with Mrs Argerich. She has still a perfect technique and no problems when performing. This interpretation here of the Barcarolle is really beautiful!!!!
PART TWO: Horowitz's pacing is ideal, and he produces a greater variety of tone and touch than anyone else. Also, he is aware of the hidden contrapuntal aspects of the piece and brings out beautiful countermelodies of which other performers seem blissfully unaware. His grasp of the architecture is profound. Each phrase and each section is subordinate to the climax which he plays with Wagnerian intensity.
KZ is no Horowitz, but I greatly admire his elegant, intelligent, beautifully controlled playing.
I have not heard his Barcarolle yet.
I am not a rabid Horowitz fan. He's done many atrocious things in his career, but his Barcarolle is so wonderful I doubt very much if anyone else will ever measure up to it.
I don't dislike Martha, but I dislike most of her Chopin. I think she's temperamentally unsuited for it. OTOH, her Schumann Kreilseriana is probably the finest imaginable.
Fine piano playing, of course, but it sounds too restless --- it continually strains at the bonds of what Chopin intended it to be. It's too AGITATED.
I've heard this same fault in many performances of this work. Argerich plays as though she wants it to be a Scherzo, or a Ballade - anything but a BOAT SONG. In truth it's more of large-scale nocturne.
The pervasive aura of feverishness causes the climax to sail by virtually unnoticed, instead of stunning us with heartbreaking intensity.
Yes, yes, yes! Many great and famous pianists completely miss the mark with this beguiling piece, my favorite Chopin composition; to point this out invites a torrent of criticism from less discerning listeners. Even Gieseking goes astray here. Have you heard the Horowitz, Lipatti, Moiseiwitsch, and 1957 Rubinstein recordings?
PART ONE: Thank you for your understanding, Billy. I've been around a long while and certainly have heard the recordings you mentioned with the exception of Moiseiwitsch.
Horowitz in my opinion produced the finest version of the Barcarolle imaginable. I listened to it again several times recently, and was astounded all over again each time at the DEPTH and sheer beauty of his interpretation.
I give her credit for wanting to do something original and individual with this piece, to make it more passionate and less serene. And it works part of the time. But she takes it too far and the piece doesn't stay together.
I enjoy Rubinsteins playing much more than that of Argerich. The key reason is that Rubinstein seems to have a much deeper musical understanding of the pieces which naturally emerges from his playing. Despite Argerichs great technical prowess, I find her playing in this repertoire to be rather cold from a musical standpoint.
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At any age this would be gorgeous--well proportioned, just the right amount of lilting rubato to give you that "boat" feeling, bubbly trills, sensitivity to harmony and form, nice contrast between sections--what more can one want or expect from this piece????
Those who think her playing here is not good, please reconsider. She was only 19 when she recorded this. There is probably no one at that age who will ever play as she does here.
Ah! I really hate the "it's supposed to be played in an other way" or "It's not Chopinian". She isn't one of the best female pianists ever without a reason.
argerich is good, but in my opinion, i think it should be more legato and smooth, like water in a calm bay, and thats why it is called a "barcarolle", which means boat song. I think she played it too fast and too rough.
I don't think it's complete disagreement--Argerich isn't in the same league as many other perfs of this, including Lipatti and Cortot...Novaes rec'd this in early '60s--if only we had THAT one for comparison, but it's been unavailable for over 3 decades. I think A's approach to Chopin can be a bit aggressive and even brutal at times (as here), and my previous comment was taking into consideration her age of only 19 or so and the fact that she has a very strong personality
which as you say may not make her always the most ideal interpreter of Chopin...she tends to make errors of judgment a number of places, overplaying transitional passages, and missing some of special beauty. I certainly would not consider this early A perf as one of her best, at least of Chopin. I will definitely listen to the Horowitz (who could also be a pounder at times, but then at other times would surprise you) and get back to you!
but where is lipatti in all of this? to many, his rendition becomes the benchmark for this masterpiece. in its classical poise, it achieves that perfect balance between the dionysian and apollonian ideals that i believe chopin held dearly. perahia also comes to mind...
I had only heard a student play this, in about 1988, and then stumbling through it myself when I obtained the score ... heard and played a lot of music since, but not much Chopin. Fresh for taking mature impressions, I started listening to versions of this today on youtube: Cortot, Lipatti, Sofronitsky (who I was expecting to favour as I love his Scriabin very much) ...
... Then thought I'd try the Argerich ... from the first notes, my throat tightened and I was spellbound throughout. Often excruciatingly so. For me, this transcends the others mentioned. It couldn't be a sound quality issue could it?
I have this recording. Part of his debut recital for Deutsche Grammophon. It was made on 1961, when she has only a 19, before your win on 1965'Chopin Competition.
One of the best interpretations ever!
Gregory98 1 year ago
Up there with Glen Gould as one of my favourite non-Russian pianists.
MrTonykulas 1 year ago
summarize sad music, happy music, meaningful music, easy music, soft music, powerful music, old music, modern music, the history of music... it's all here in this piece.
ibclappin 1 year ago
The only thing I can quibble with here is the practice of playing a "double" note apoggiatura before certain trills. Chopin WROTE them out this way, but it is NOT meant to be played that way. She does this in a few places. Otherwise a very good if a tiny bit "nervous" sounding. Not nervous as in SHE was nervous, just nervous energy...
Grigor99 1 year ago
@Grigor99 can you give me his phone number?? how do you know chopin didn't want it this way? do you have proof?
silvr94 1 year ago
@Grigor99 You will find the explanation of this practice in many editions including the Paderewski where he states "The repetition of the principle note at the beginning(of trill) should be avoided. This does not exist in Chopin. To obviate this mistake, some editors have added an upper appoggiatura to the notation of these trills."
Grigor99 1 year ago
This is the Chopin piece that I want to play the most because it is such a grand, exciting piece of music. On his 200th birthday when I thought about his life and how much he has influenced me, I decided that his Barcarolle is the piece I would have played in his honor. I love how each passage seems like it's exploding and unfolding from the previous passage. This is just beautiful.
TwelfthRoot2 1 year ago 3
totally NAILED it.... gorgeous performance
chutdigadut 1 year ago 2
she was only my age when she played in this recording...
The passionate and often restless soul of youth.
dasklavierleben 1 year ago
she pretty much owns.
YvesIsaki 1 year ago 3
Very enchanting interpretation with exquisite rhythms that eventually led me to Ms Argerich's brilliant Mazurkas - after hearing this barcarolle, I was almost certain about her mazurkas though I had never heard them before and they were great performance too!
cyy02 1 year ago 3
A consumate artist......exquisitely played.....Chopin probably would have envied her interpretation; as for the obscenities I read above, how crude and vulgar.....motivated by a dysfunctional and idiotic ---stupid......brainless......& truly UGLY mentality........
buddyfingers 2 years ago 5
gc65...thank you for taking the time to make this available..Martha never fails to delight...
politicopol 2 years ago 9
@politicopol: You're welcome.
gc65531941 1 year ago
I wish you would all just listen to the performance. We don't really care that you liked xxx better!
Coralwinderful 2 years ago
5***))))))
444mariam 2 years ago 5
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she played too fast......listen dang thai son version.........more touching and charmng........
rachmaninov1873 2 years ago
I don't care what anyone says, she's so beautiful :)
iloveclams 2 years ago 12
The comments here comparing Argerich to Horowitz I can say the career of Argerich is better than the Horowitz one. Yes Horowitz did delight us with his strong personal interpretations but he had lots of technical problems when older. this isn t the case with Mrs Argerich. She has still a perfect technique and no problems when performing. This interpretation here of the Barcarolle is really beautiful!!!!
uhartchristian 2 years ago
'Ms' Argerich :)
yohbyo 2 years ago 4
...I think I'm in love with music.
This is so beautiful, light and... oh, it's just so WONDERFUL!
Yes, I am most definitely in love.
BarbaraPloyer333 2 years ago
Beautifully played!!!!!
samuelngkee 2 years ago 4
5***
444mariam 2 years ago 3
don't say bad words
costellopianist 2 years ago
I love Argerichs playing! But I still love Horowitz even more!
But it is a close race! ;-) Argerich is a wonderful pianist.
maxhansendk 2 years ago 2
don't agree with everything she does but geez! so much personality!
miklosjoey1 2 years ago
Is that competition performance?
michal1810 2 years ago
I think that in this piece Chopin was really doing some things that remind of impressionist composers, such as Debussy. Chopin was ahead of time
zambachango 2 years ago 6
Yes -- especially in many of his MAZURKAS.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
this is my favorite composition by Chopin.
Metalogicc 2 years ago 2
PART TWO: Horowitz's pacing is ideal, and he produces a greater variety of tone and touch than anyone else. Also, he is aware of the hidden contrapuntal aspects of the piece and brings out beautiful countermelodies of which other performers seem blissfully unaware. His grasp of the architecture is profound. Each phrase and each section is subordinate to the climax which he plays with Wagnerian intensity.
Please tell me about Moiseiwitsch.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
marta argerich is the best musician alive .(period)
pedrinhosotelo 2 years ago
With such an analysis, you must like the interpretation of krystian zimerman, am i right?
tguiot 2 years ago
KZ is no Horowitz, but I greatly admire his elegant, intelligent, beautifully controlled playing.
I have not heard his Barcarolle yet.
I am not a rabid Horowitz fan. He's done many atrocious things in his career, but his Barcarolle is so wonderful I doubt very much if anyone else will ever measure up to it.
I don't dislike Martha, but I dislike most of her Chopin. I think she's temperamentally unsuited for it. OTOH, her Schumann Kreilseriana is probably the finest imaginable.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago 2
Fine piano playing, of course, but it sounds too restless --- it continually strains at the bonds of what Chopin intended it to be. It's too AGITATED.
I've heard this same fault in many performances of this work. Argerich plays as though she wants it to be a Scherzo, or a Ballade - anything but a BOAT SONG. In truth it's more of large-scale nocturne.
The pervasive aura of feverishness causes the climax to sail by virtually unnoticed, instead of stunning us with heartbreaking intensity.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
Yes, yes, yes! Many great and famous pianists completely miss the mark with this beguiling piece, my favorite Chopin composition; to point this out invites a torrent of criticism from less discerning listeners. Even Gieseking goes astray here. Have you heard the Horowitz, Lipatti, Moiseiwitsch, and 1957 Rubinstein recordings?
billyguns2 2 years ago
PART ONE: Thank you for your understanding, Billy. I've been around a long while and certainly have heard the recordings you mentioned with the exception of Moiseiwitsch.
Horowitz in my opinion produced the finest version of the Barcarolle imaginable. I listened to it again several times recently, and was astounded all over again each time at the DEPTH and sheer beauty of his interpretation.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
I give her credit for wanting to do something original and individual with this piece, to make it more passionate and less serene. And it works part of the time. But she takes it too far and the piece doesn't stay together.
ivelosthewilltolive 2 years ago
I enjoy Rubinsteins playing much more than that of Argerich. The key reason is that Rubinstein seems to have a much deeper musical understanding of the pieces which naturally emerges from his playing. Despite Argerichs great technical prowess, I find her playing in this repertoire to be rather cold from a musical standpoint.
Liebromeistal 2 years ago
1:28
Merk2 2 years ago
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does anyone find that martha argerich looks like martha stewart?
foodmore 2 years ago
greatest female pianist in the world
Ni5h4fly 2 years ago
I do agree, although I might also be tempted to take away the 'female' part... :-)
Anyway, thanks for watching.
gc65531941 2 years ago
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radioelargentino 2 years ago
I think her interpretation is beautiful! The shapes of her phrases really drive the piece forward... Brava!
dawidmysle 2 years ago 4
lovely lyrical things, ending a bit too harsh though.
yunan2505 2 years ago
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age 19, "Blissfully Unaware"
MoWolf1968DimlyWitch 2 years ago
At any age this would be gorgeous--well proportioned, just the right amount of lilting rubato to give you that "boat" feeling, bubbly trills, sensitivity to harmony and form, nice contrast between sections--what more can one want or expect from this piece????
zamyrabyrd 2 years ago
Those who think her playing here is not good, please reconsider. She was only 19 when she recorded this. There is probably no one at that age who will ever play as she does here.
qwertyproulx 2 years ago 6
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Then she shouldn't even play it! In other words, she cant handle it!>:( Its supposed to be peaceful!
Pianoismylife2 2 years ago
Ah! I really hate the "it's supposed to be played in an other way" or "It's not Chopinian". She isn't one of the best female pianists ever without a reason.
Pianisteny2k 2 years ago 2
Wonderful!!! It's MARTHA ARGERICH... NO WORDS...
piazzonga 2 years ago
Who plays this better?....Horowitz, Rubinstein, Cortot, Sofrinitsky, Lipatti,
Zimerman ?... It is wonderful to have so many performances of this piece on YouTube!!!
All the renditions of this sublime music give me so much joy!..
Thanks very much for this video.
manemav 2 years ago 2
Zimerman, hands down!
fortissimo25 2 years ago
rubinstein did it way better...
but damn... for a woman's small hands- awesome ^^
mmandreazz 2 years ago
she has huge hands in my opinion man hand i might say
ieronim2003 2 years ago
chauvinist...
and yeah, she had huge hands.
FredeGF 2 years ago
her hands are giant. she can reach further than most men
ihrtmusic12334 2 years ago 2
argerich is good, but in my opinion, i think it should be more legato and smooth, like water in a calm bay, and thats why it is called a "barcarolle", which means boat song. I think she played it too fast and too rough.
Pianoismylife2 2 years ago
you can ride a boat on stormy waters, even calm bays can be rough on stormy days.
bourdour 2 years ago
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try richard goode's. you will have to find a recording or hear him play it live, it won't be on youtube...
artsandaudioNYC 2 years ago
yeah i'm with you. people are too carried away with her "name"
libetta 1 year ago
A Chopin Barcarolle full of passion and romance, as only Argerich could play it!
soami2u 2 years ago 10
For once I disagree with you, Soami. MA cannot begin to compare with the lyrical talent of our beloved Guiomar Novaes.
MA is a marvellous pianist, but she has an agressive, sometimes almost savage, disposition that to me is off-putting.
Do listen to Horowitz -- PARTICULARLY on the Barcarolle.
I doubt anyone has ever equalled it for depth of understanding, brilliant execution and variety of tone color.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
I don't think it's complete disagreement--Argerich isn't in the same league as many other perfs of this, including Lipatti and Cortot...Novaes rec'd this in early '60s--if only we had THAT one for comparison, but it's been unavailable for over 3 decades. I think A's approach to Chopin can be a bit aggressive and even brutal at times (as here), and my previous comment was taking into consideration her age of only 19 or so and the fact that she has a very strong personality
soami2u 2 years ago
which as you say may not make her always the most ideal interpreter of Chopin...she tends to make errors of judgment a number of places, overplaying transitional passages, and missing some of special beauty. I certainly would not consider this early A perf as one of her best, at least of Chopin. I will definitely listen to the Horowitz (who could also be a pounder at times, but then at other times would surprise you) and get back to you!
soami2u 2 years ago
Always good to hear whatever you have to say, Soami.
Pischna
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
but where is lipatti in all of this? to many, his rendition becomes the benchmark for this masterpiece. in its classical poise, it achieves that perfect balance between the dionysian and apollonian ideals that i believe chopin held dearly. perahia also comes to mind...
utubuser10 2 years ago
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saegeas 2 years ago
I had only heard a student play this, in about 1988, and then stumbling through it myself when I obtained the score ... heard and played a lot of music since, but not much Chopin. Fresh for taking mature impressions, I started listening to versions of this today on youtube: Cortot, Lipatti, Sofronitsky (who I was expecting to favour as I love his Scriabin very much) ...
saegeas 2 years ago 2
... Then thought I'd try the Argerich ... from the first notes, my throat tightened and I was spellbound throughout. Often excruciatingly so. For me, this transcends the others mentioned. It couldn't be a sound quality issue could it?
saegeas 2 years ago 2
I can't imagine this being played better...I think it would be impossible
bobomber 2 years ago 4
The performance is awful!!!
Awe-inspiring good that is. Lovely performance.
inazuma3gou 3 years ago
I think you mean awesome.
CrawlingAxle 2 years ago 2
The whole performance is one long unbroken line... absolutely delirious ... wonderful... sets you swaying.
Lady's a goddess.
ikshields 3 years ago 3
oh wow do i love this woman
callenishss 3 years ago 8
I have this recording. Part of his debut recital for Deutsche Grammophon. It was made on 1961, when she has only a 19, before your win on 1965'Chopin Competition.
polskaczech 3 years ago
A maravilhosa Marta Argerich!!!!!!!
lamsalgado 3 years ago 3
This is not a piano piece anymore.
It is something like a Muse's singing voice.
bokensdorf 3 years ago 8
Wonderful comment!
lamsalgado 3 years ago 5
Wonderful comment bokensdorf!
lamsalgado 3 years ago 3
So very beautiful
yourforte 3 years ago 4
Amazingly performed... and she looks beautiful too¡
torero75 3 years ago 4
Argerich is not the female Horowitz, Horowitz is the male Argerich!
pifffolino 3 years ago 9
HAhA, I like what you say!
blissprosper 3 years ago
Let me make a bad joke: actually Horowitz was the female version of himself.
dpkaiser 3 years ago
hahaha awe your so right :D:D:D haha :D
KearneyPiano 2 years ago
Richter is better than both!
Liebromeistal 2 years ago
Let me fix that.
"In my opinion, Richter is better than both of them. But I do respect your opinion as having the same value as mine"
JohnEBProductions 2 years ago
CREATIVO!
manalansanpaopao 3 years ago
music bliss, sublime interpretation from 1.52 to 1.56
tibe2003 3 years ago 4
Wonderful!
pianora70 3 years ago 4
absolutely amazing, unimitable
ohvg61 3 years ago 7
Precisely the fluffy, eery "aura" the piece needs. It took a woman...
TNX for sharing
deepesttime 3 years ago
OMG... music from heaven....
tibe2003 3 years ago 34
AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
electricorca 3 years ago 2
Simply wonderful!!!
sevcik2 3 years ago 11
We love you Martha!
K189T 3 years ago 19
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alexongcs 3 years ago 7