one time i was told that earth was actually created when some planet called nibiru collided with a planet between mars and jupiter called tiamat and it pushed tiamat to where earth currently is and that the asteroid belt is the peices that remain from the collision. ive looked it up and theres a lot of stuff on it.. im not saying its true, but it is WAY more logical than believing some mystical creature in the skies created everything
If there is proof of God why is there so many religions? My evidence that God does not exist is the fact that there is so many right religions. Common sense says they're all wrong because there is not 1 absolute religion. Why would he want everyone on this planet creating wars over him? Why are people dying for him? I thought he died for us and why doesn't he do it again to set the record straight? He's not perfect if he was he'd make sure to come back and die again so his children don't die
one thing people don't understand that god has always been...atheists believe that the thing that expanded has always been..or might...so the universe is ur god if u believe that..but religious people believe that all knowing one created all this is the deference...we refer to god as the one or the thing where all started from or because of him..so its more logical that smart one or thing created us smart the beings than we came some how in this universe..thats my humble opinion!!
@kempsdaman some thing must have always been and that is god.....if ur atheist ur god is the universe or the thing that expanded or what ever u think might has always been..if ur religious ur god is a powerful one that can do aything
@kempsdaman god is the source...that doesnt have a beggining!!!!...any way i want to point to that its more logical to belive that smart creatures like us were created by all kmowing one rather than we were created somehow in this universe.we are smart beings and all what we made is robots and we r smart so to make beings so smart like us..or lets say brain developed like us someone must be greater than us to create us..thats my belief u dont have to share!
@obadah13 well then you have to show that something doesn't have to have a beginning. And unfortunately you're wrong, it isn't more logical to believe that. We know how we came to be, and we know how this planet and the solar system came to be. What we don't know is how the universe as a whole came to be. But it is in no way logical to believe that an "all knowing one" done it. And even if there was how do you know he is "all knowing" maybe he could just be part knowing?
If "god" is so powerful.. why the hell was he unable to create this eve bitch without one of adams rib? it sounds more like an alien experimentation and that is way more logical than believing some all powerful "god" did it. seriously, you christians are brainwashed fools. stop being unproductive and help find true answers.
You heard people say- "it will never be found", "it ain't true", "it just can't be".
I'm here to tell you these People are WRONG- I found it. Using Google Earth -
I found God's Watermarks of the REAL Garden of Eden. Look at my Channel and see the Video I made of it. I didn't point all of it out either- there are many things still hid for you to find. Come see.
oh holy father...ur son is haploid with only 23 chromosome of holy mother,,.compared to homosapian 46 chromosomes...sure he had diseases like" turners.."or holy ovum might not undergone that meiotic division..confusion confusion..help me out oh holy father
Who else noticed that the Preacher/Atheist says "My god" in frustration? Doesn't that mean that he has a God? Otherwise it's just words that mean nothing.
@FLYBITERacing It's a common expression used in our culture to show that we are frustrated. So yes, those words themselves don't really mean anything in this case. He could have said "fuckcockjizzonmyface," instead of "my god," and everyone would know that he was frustrated by the caller. Instead, he went with something that people actually say everyday, and that he was probably conditioned to say before becoming an atheist.
@UpoundBUTTS I was only saying it to bitch. I really didn't care, I know Atheists and Satanists and Christians and Jews etc. all say it to express their frustration. Although saying "fuckcockjizzonmyface" would have made me laugh, a lot. But, yeah. I was only commenting that to be a dick I guess. Just to get peoples gote.
@FLYBITERacing Haha as you should. This is youtube after all. That was just the thirtieth time that I'd seen a similar comment on an atheist video and finally wanted to set some dumbasscockmonger straight. Instead...I got trolled
I am an atheist but religion ingeneral I think hashelped people tohave something to move on. I meanif you donthave a heaven youwould questionyourself why doinggood thingswhile youcan dobad thingsOur mainlaws arebased onall thediffererentreligions (that iswhy nowadays we dont actually need religion). Religion give people hope to live for, it gives them grieve that the bad guy will pay the consequences. Eventhough religion has killed over millions of people with persecutions it has helped in a way
Believing in science has sure gotten us far, if you believe in global warming that essentially says that science and progress has screwed us in that sense. I won't sit here and say progress is bad because it isn't but some of the "progress" we have made is backwords in my eyes. People in the great country of America can barely hold a conversation without getting confused or losing attention. Texting is taking away from all basic social skills and is making my generation even more inept
@BabySmasher14534 I'd rather have hope in people being able to work together than to hope for a God that we don't even know truly exists to intervene. Hope is not a really justifiable reason to believe in a God, in my opinion, but I guess that's just my opinion. I don't say "screw it all" ever, I feel as though we should live cooperatively and keep our species moving forward, so how is that negative at all?
@BabySmasher14534 I take it from your second comment that you reject science because you give it such a negative connotation? How has science regressed our species? And yes, it's regressed, not "progressed backwards." I don't really agree with the comment generalizing Americans like that, either. While most or Americans are stupid fucks, there are some, like me, who are far beyond an intellectual level you will ever obtain. If anyone here is inept, it's you.
It's funny how idiots on here battle back and forth here on youtube. To be honest I'd rather be an "ignorant" person and believe in something that gives us all hope. The worlds gone to hell society blows it's true wether you're an athiest christian kid or adult it's true. Instead of being miserable and thinking on a note that we live die and that's it just doesn't really strike me as positive and a way I would like to live and it's sad that people just accept it and just say screw it all.
atheism essentially is a non belief... If there is no real evidence or proof to support a theory that can explain the beginning of our universe or to disprove of the existence of a God or divine entity then the evidence is in favor of religion
The bible is evidence whether people except it or not for the same reason that we can call a witness up to testify in court. There is nothing to prevent the witness from lying but there are things we can observe to verify the truth and use as evidence
@revelthehunter there is evidence supporting a theory that explains the origin of the universe; what do you think the big bang theory is? Nothing in the bible can ever be proved. the bible is as much evidence for anything than is any modern fiction.
and its actually nothing like calling a witness to testify in court. There is no evidence for the bibles text
we observe the world as it is now, and so far we havent seen anything like a talking snake or something as equally ludicrous
@Fewsandpiper no evidence supporting bible text? are you serious? im not talking about the old testament im talking about the new testament, you know... the part with jesus? youre telling me theres no evidence to say jesus existed? lol
big bang theory is just a string of popular theories... in REALITY there is no SOLID evidence to support it and its the same for evolutionary mutation...
@revelthehunter yes thats exactly what im saying, im glad you understand. care to share? youde be the first to give good evidence
what do you think the cosmic microwave background is? or fossils? or EVOLUTION THAT YOU CAN SEE TODAY in the form of new strains of bacteria or insects with resistances to certain antibodies or insecticides?
if there is a god, he clearly set out to deceive every intelligent person on this earth by giving us great evidence to think he doesnt exist
@Fewsandpiper google it... im not gonna sit here and name of historical events and artifacts for you...
cosmic microwave background isnt solid evidence for the big bang theory. calling it solid evidence is like calling the universe itself evidence.
whether or not the big bang happened doesnt matter either.I imagine God would created a universe that could explain itself, that doesn't mean there isn't some sort of transcendental entity that created it
@revelthehunter There is no evidence for a historical Jesus. Not one word was written about him during his supposed lifetime, not even the books of the NT. Extra biblical sources claimed by christians as "proof," such as Josephus and Tacitus, are hearsay or forgeries. They were born after Jesus purportedly died, so had no firsthand knowledge.
@revelthehunter Evolution is backed up rather nicely. There is even more evidence for the Theory of Evolution than the Theory of Gravity. I don't suppose you reject that gravity happens too, right? Also, there is no evidence that Jesus existed, or that the New Testament is any more accurate and true than the Old Testament.
See, the problem is that, men can be the most filthy race on earth, capable of using something as pure as the idea of god and religion to use it to their own advantage. But please, keep in mind that there IS many people who do good things by following the book.
Why do atheist have to ve such assholes? I seriously beginning to hate those two individuals. The red shirt guy need to shut his mouth, BIG TIME!! I don't even care about his believes, he is just a rude person who thinks his smart. Being a douche doesnt help to prove his point.
Religion, it's such a crazy thing? People please.... If some one tels you something out of the norm don't you go and find out for your self whether it's true or not? Why in the world would any one belive such a kakanany thing as religions? It's all bean made up by the ones who wanted power and money period. The real history is out there why won't any one find out what really hapend? It's soo in trusting ? Iven Jesus was a scam yes Jesus ..
Proof that God exists can be found by reading Romans 1. "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" (Romans 1:20)
@xTemLx Proof that God exists can be found by reading Romans 1. "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" (Romans 1:20)
@sh3ifan When I look in the mirror I see my own reflection - not signs of a "deity."
Besides, "signs" can and often are misleading..they depend on subjective interpretation which are often different from each other, and are open to misinterpretation. If by seeing your reflection you visibly see a sign for a god, then this is something that can be tested and confirmed by anyone, even non-believers.
Let's test your claim under laboratory conditions, shall we?
What is so bad about answering a question with a question? All it does is progress a conversation, It builds the conversation instead of "QUESTION ANSWER END OF THE DISCUSSION" answering a question with a question creates progression, that is the problem with theists they want (or believe) that certain questions have definite answers when in reality that is false but theists cannot see this because they are closed minded.
@LogicalStatements1 what is so wrong with religion itself? why cant athiests just accept the fact that people have a religion, that they believe in a god? they cant because the one who is closed minded is ATHIESTS themselves. answering a question with a question does not creat progesion due to the fact that if you respond with another question, your creating anoher argument leaving the other one unfinished. all im trying to say is, what is so wrong with religion.
@vader671 all religious people are also closed minded, its only agnostics that aren't closed minded and are willing to accept evidence from both sides. There is nothing wrong with religion, but the believers make it seem like there's something wrong with there extremists.
@xTemLx alright, you can say what you want about religious people, you can read me the whole dang bible like these people, but you cant disprove god. not only that but the question remains why cant athiests just accept religous people. oh and by the way, athiests base their answers on scientific proof, claiming that there is no proof for a god. but answer this, is it harder to accept that there is a god in a spirit form that created civilization, or is it so easy to believe that a big bang did?
@vader671 okay so your annoyed because atheists cant accept religious people, but may i ask you why cant religious people accept atheists. I'm not disproving God, if you actually read what i said rather then going on defensive mode straight away i quite clearly said '' i have no clue whether or not theres a God, im not saying there isn't.'' also atleast bassing your idea on scientific proof is relavent, the bible is how many yeas old, and the fact that rules about religion are changing?
@vader671 It is not about what is "easier" to believe. It's about evidence.
The call is not about accepting "religious people." The problem with the caller is that he is PRESUMING a "higher being" and expects everyone to just accept it and not ask questions since the "research" has been done. Well, it's not going to happen.
I don't accept ANYTHING without evidence, and that includes things that are, according to YOU, "easier" to believe.
@vader671 How can you deny that answering a question with a question progresses a conversation? and other than that makes one or the other party think even more than they were doing to start with.
Believing in a "god" is ok with me, organised religions aka cults are not.
@LogicalStatements1 how can I? because your really not answering the question that was asked. your wrong about it progressing a conversation, because if i were to ask you a question and your answer is in a form of another question, your just creating another argument out of your question. in other words, its a way of getting out of answering the question that was asked. organized religions are cults? so an organized athiest show is not? (cont)
@LogicalStatements1 do me a favor and think about racism for a minute. think about how they did it back then. blacks were treated like animals, why? because they were black. now take this into a religous effect. picture a world run by athiests. look at how religous people are treated by athiests. could you imagin how the world would be? to be honest, it would be a second houlocost. just because your black does not mean your a bad person. just because you have a religion does no mean the same.
@vader671 I think you have a very warped view on atheists , to be in atheist is not to be part of a sect.
To be an atheist is to be an individual pure and simple, have you ever heard of the ability to "free think" that is what an atheist does, they think for them self and not influenced by something that has been forced upon them or something people say to be true, they think about it and come to a conclusion to whether or not it is true, so it is no wonder why most atheists believe the truth.
@vader671 For instance , in my mind I don't need to be called an atheist because I am just a humane human being, I did not grow up around any religion and I have had no theistic friends throughout my whole life, none of my family are theistic , thousands of people I have interacted with and 0.1% of them were theist , It is just not part of my life, hence the Logic in my username, I am sorry but religion is a waste of time for it accomplishes nothing that an atheist cannot do.
Continued: If there is the same amount of - energy as + energy, that means the universe = 0. The only universe that can = 0 is one that came from “nothing”… So, when someone asks “how can this universe come from nothing?”, I respond by saying “a universe that = 0 can only come from nothing”. There is no need for a God, the laws of physics tell us that you could have absolutely “nothing”, with energy equal to 0, and quantum fluctuations could create a universe.
The total energy of the universe is zero, loosely speaking, the negative gravitational potential energy exactly balances, i do like that theory too :D, but dont forget there are other ones too.
Quantum theory and special relativity indicate that “nothing” is simply a boiling bubbling brew of virtual particles popping in and out of existence, nothing actually has weight. 90% of a proton’s weight is due to this “nothing”, since protons and neutrons are what most of your body is made out of, 70% of your body is actually made out “nothing”. There is actually the same amount of negative energy in the universe as positive energy. the - energy of gravity balances out the + energy of matter.
The proof for God is there, but no religious person will believe it.
The Creator has posted a video on YouTube. The message comes to you directly, without the need for transcription or interpretation by bronze-age scribes, or analysis by Stephen Hawking.
The video tells you how you came to be here, outlines the meaning and purpose of your life, and gives you an insight into the future of humankind.
lol man made the religion so that people will make choices.If they didnt teach us about heaven and hell we will make the wrong choice exp. If you want to kill some one and then u remember about going to hell if you did that you probably wont do it.Prople back then were smart they made religion so the crime and stuff will decrease and that was a good thing if they were no religion the world will never be safe well its never been....
@king94713 god, you're so arrogant. first of all, if you kill you might go to JAIL. isn't jail a good enough insentive not to kill? even if you knew you could commit a crime and go free, it doesnt mean hell is the only thing keeping you from doing it. i don't believe in god or hell and i've had countless oportunities to commit crimes without getting caught, yet i've never commited one. how do you explain that smartass? i tell you, its called INTEGRITY, and it wasnt god who gave us it.
@BattousaiHBr the other guy got angry cause he disrespect his god and want to teach him a lesson and to show him his god is the best so the other guy want to show him that his god is better than his so they fought THE END.
@king94713 secondly, "right" and "wrong" are but a matter of point of view, and you don't even need religion for that either. and since you were talking about religion earlier, did you know that religion is the number 1 cause of murders in human history?
use your head next time before spouting nonsense, will you?
@BattousaiHBr I know about all of that shit i tell you some thing why the war about religion happened example this guy believe in other god and the other guy believe that his god is better than the other guys god and they fought cause they starting to disrespect the god of their own and god angry and want to hurt him or punish him for looking so low to his god... YOU GET IT NOW...OK NOW SHUT UP!! I dont want anyone to know that god dont exist cause if no1 believe in God every1 will do crazy sht
i find the bible to be contradictive... it sets rules and guidelines of which we must follow in our lives, one of those being that we are all treat each other equal in order to live peacefully, yet, Christianity threatens hell to those that do not comply. Where's the peace in that? I find the idea of God quite threatening and intimidating, which is not the way believers describe him.
Evolution is proven fact. But the universe exists..therefore it was created. So there must be a force of some kind that triggered that. There is a God (of sorts)
I found a whole story made out of Watermarks on Our Planet using Google Earth and I found them in something else to. I just posted my latest video- I found pictures of God! I've put the story together and made a video of it to share with you. When your finished tell someone what you saw this day !! He Lives ! Come see my Channel and look at the Amazing things I've found ! I even found the Garden of Eden - come see !!
You heard people say- "it will never be found", "it ain't true", "it just can't be".
I'm here to tell you these People are WRONG- I found it. Using Google Earth -
I found God's Watermarks of the REAL Garden of Eden. Look at my Channel and see the Video I made of it. I didn't point all of it out either- there are many things still hid for you to find. Come see.
@growupplzzr0003 He claimed to have evidence and then refused to provide it when asked, he should have been hung up on long before he was and slapped besides for wasting everybody's time with his lies.
I think it's far more rewarding to do good deeds in spite of there not being a god. It means I'm being a good person because it's a choice I make. It's something I can control, and I'm not being bribed or swayed or manipulated by any ulterior motive to do someone else a solid. I don't need a reward. The reward is built right in to the deed itself. In fact, I find people who do good deeds in the name of any god harder to trust...
@Almost1974 Completely wrong. I live a good and caring life. After I started studying the Bible, I realized it made absolutely no sense when compared to historical and scientifically testable facts. Sorry, you lose.
@TheHENRY73 Yes you are correct that just cos there is no proof it doesnt mean it doesnt exist, but you are not justified in believing that it DOES exist, until there is evidence to support it.
Eg, there is no evidence that fairies exist, that doesnt mean in itself that fairies dont exist, but you are not justified in believing that fairies DO exist, until you have proof, or at least some supporting evidence.
@TheHENRY73 yes sir, you are correct, everyone thinks if it's not scientific it can't exist or be real, yet ALL the time we see miracles happen that cannot be explained by any scientific method, so to their logic miracles don't exist but they happen on a daily basis, I feel for those ppl
@TurumbarTurin well all the time u hear bout someone who was clinically dead for several minutes and comes back, what do u think that is? an unlikely event?
and those are only the ones we hear about,
an unlikely event would be winning the lottery without buying a ticket, or an evolutionist being right about something, it 8nt gonna happen
@Almost1974 I think people being clinically dead for several minutes and then comming back is a testament to the skill of doctors. It can be done with any animal as well, do you really think that god would waste miracles on animals?
A miracle as I understand it is something that is physically impossible and still happens, anything less is just higher or lower odds and is not indicative of anything supernatural, not even a magical mouse could be proven to exist with long odds.
@TurumbarTurin skill of the doctors? then why don't they bring bak ALL of them? God made the doctors, why not give Him credit for a miracle? Thinkin that God is wasting miracles puts limits on what He can do, so the god ur thinkin of would not be THE GOD of the Bible (KJV) cuz He has no limits or he wouldn't be God.
u say "not indicative of anything supernatural", maybe not, but that doesn't rule out the supernatural aspect,
obviously no1 can prove a miracle, with God u always beat the odds
@Almost1974 By your logic anyone who plays a perfect game in bowling should be able to do it every time, and not only that, should play flawlessly in all other sports and/or games as well.
If god is shown to exist I'll give credit where it is due.
I didn't say god only had a certain number of miracles, I just asked why suspend the physical laws for an animal.
No fantastic claim should be believed just because it hasn't been ruled out or you'd have to believe all fantastic claims.
@TurumbarTurin what does bowling have to do with anything I said?
ur assuming God would have to "suspend the physical lawsl" i am sure God loves animals too since He created them, plus the physical laws only apply to us, God is outside of time, space, and matter and not stuck in it like we are.
I agree, u shouldn't believe nething just cuz it hasn't been ruled out, and u shouldn't put ur faith in mans word either, yet so many think scientist have all the answers, thats just dumb
@Almost1974 Just because doctors can manage the difficult feat of bringing someone back from a little bit beyond death caused by say drowning, you ask why they don't bring all back from all causes of death.
That is like asking why a perfect game bowler doesn't get a hole in one every time he plays golf.
If he doesn't have to suspend the physical laws why call it a miracle? Or do you think that hitting the waste basket three in a row with a wad of paper can be called a miracle if ur so inclined?
@TurumbarTurin again ur assuming things, like the fact that the doctors are why they survived,
a miracle can happen w/o suspending th physical laws,
a female friend of mine passed out due to heart probs in a location where not much traiffic, yet a cop happened to pass by at the right moment and saw the car in ditch, considerin the location and time of night, IMO that had to be a miracle that God sent a cop by there at the right moment or she would have probably died.....cont......
@Almost1974 If we look at similar cases of drowning and compare the ones with doctors and those without, which do you think has the higher survival rate?
@TurumbarTurin cont....anyways not all would agree that was a miracle that sent the cop to her, and it can't be proven that it was, but not everything has to be proven by science for it to exist
@Almost1974 You say you agree that a claim shouldn't be believed until proven and yet you do. You believe in god and are, so far, unable to show a rational reason for your belief.
I don't think that there are that many who thinks that scientists have all the answers, I don't and I don't think that I've even met or spoken to a person over the internet who thinks that.
But what scientists are claiming to know is backed by evidence, the only people that trust mans word are religious.
@TurumbarTurin open ur eyes and look around, EVERYTHING u see is made for a purpose, so the only logical explanation is some1(GOD) made it, if not why would it exist?
any1 who believes evolution has to put faith in man (scientist) to have the answers, simply becuz there is no proof of the dumb theory, ALL the evidence they use in text books have been proven wrong and yet they still teach they kids like its fact,
evolution is a religion cuz u have to believe it happened
@Almost1974 So if an illprepared would be murderer finds a very sharp rock just at the site where he is to do his murder and uses it to kill with, did then god have that purpose in mind when he made the rock or did the adaptive quality of the murderer just utilize a naturally occuring rock?
You see, where you see purpose I see adaptation in both individuals and in species.
Evolution is a fact, change over time does happen.
@mermaidsareppl222 "evolution by definition is not a religion" so what is it then? it damn sure isn't science, u cant observe, test, experiment with anything evolution has to offer,
if u think it's science then u need help understanding the defintion
@Almost1974 If all have been proven false, maybe you'd care to name one that is currently believed by the scientific community to support the theory of evolution?
Also, for arguments sake let's say the theory of evolution is proven false, what evidence supports the genesis hypothesis?
@TurumbarTurin why keep up with evolution? 100 + yrs since Darwin and still no proof,
wind erosion in solid rock? how hard do u think the wind was blowing? how about the Arizona Rock formation, do u think wind coulda possible done that? lacks common sense,
a world wide flood is the ONLY reason we find so many dinosaurs/animals together in 1 place in the fossil graveyards, animals don't bury themselves
ur right a WW flood doesn't prove creation, it's 1 of many proofs the Bible is correct tho
@Almost1974 Actually Darwin's theory has more evidence backing it up than any other theory in any scientific field but of course you don't know that since you don't keep up with "evolution crap".
The question is rather how long than how hard the wind has been blowing.
It only lacks common sense if you think the earth is 6000 yrs old.
It seems you are under the impression that there is a dinosaur graveyard... are you talking about a prehistoric massgrave of some sort?
@TurumbarTurin whats evidence does Darwins theory have thats solid to u?, most has been proven wrong and the new sttuff won't pass the test of time, it never does,
if the earth is milions of yrs old why is there ONLY 7 billion ppl here? should be ALOT more if u do the math,
@Almost1974 The best example that comes to mind is belief in the resurrection because of the testimony of the alleged witnesses in the bible. That is trust in man's word if I've ever seen it.
@TurumbarTurin God inspired the Bible and promised to preserve His word, that's not trust in mans word, plus ur assuming they are liars, u could win that case in a court of law with those same witnesses , tho i don't trust the court system today
question: in ur opinion
can a creationist be a scientist? or do they have to believe in evolution?
@Almost1974 I'm not assuming they lied, I just said to believe their testimony is to trust man's word.
You're assuming the initial point, also known as petitio principii or begging the question, if god doesn't exist it didn't inspire the bible, when you've shown that god exists and that it is the god of the bible and that god would never lie or have someone lie for him, then you can use the bible as evidence.
Job 38:16 Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recesses of the deep?
There wouldn't have to be an "or" in there if they had known that there were deep sea springs.
So no, that's not evidence for it, and even if they had been clear about it it would only prove they had that knowledge and nothing about how they knew, with nothing else forthcomming you'd have to use an argument from ignorance, "how else could they have known"?
@Almost1974 Exactly, 2 questions. Had the authors of the bible known about deep sea springs it would have been 1 question, the verse would then have been "Have you journeyed to the springs deep in the sea?"
Even if that had been the case, it would not have been direct evidence for god, it would have been that the authors had knowledge the technology level did not permit and that is it.
You really need to learn what evidence is and not accuse me of not knowing.
@TurumbarTurin if u knew anything bout the Bible u would know the book of JOB is full of rhetorical questions asked by God, which means He isn't lookin for an answer, the authors knew they were springs in the sea, why else would it even be mentioned, and I didnt say that proved God, it proves that part of the Bible is correct tho,
I know what evidence is, thats why I say there is none for evolution cuz of assumptions,
@Almost1974 That's what I'm saying, it's not mentioned in the bible. What they do mention is springs of the sea and the recesses of the deep, not that the springs of the sea are in the deep recesses.
@Almost1974 evolution has indeed been proven. i don't remember who did it, but there was this experiment where you'd put a bacteria collony in a vessel and give it less and less food. most of them would die first but later on the collony would regrow with a new bacteria better at retaining its "food".
@Almost1974 I didn't say if god was clear there were springs in the sea, I said; if the authors of the bible had been explicit about there being springs in the sea.
@Almost1974 Of course a creationist can be a scientist, I have a harder time seeing a creationist as a scientist in biology but maybe there is someone able to compartmentalize his/her beliefs enough.
@TurumbarTurin I mean if a miracle happens u can't prove or disprove whether is was one or not, if u think u can show me,
God/Jesus provides for those who choose to follow Him, that doesn't mean u will win the lottery, God doesn't need the lottery to take care of ur needs, He knows what u need more than u do,
being a Christian doesn't mean u won't go thru hard times, God says He won't put u thru anything u can't handle,
so unless u have given ur life to God it's impossible to argue against that
@Almost1974 You claim that no one can prove that a miracle is a such and therefore need to show how you know that it can't be proven.
Then what does "with god you always beat the odds" mean?
Then god lied, the evidence; christians who commit suicide. Can they be called to have been able to handle what was given them? How about christians that go insane, do they handle what god gives?
Me thinks I see a no true scotsman fallacy comming up.
@Arcexey Well, I don't do it because I want to convince him/her, I do it to show that s/he only has empty claims and an untenable position. In other words, my only goal is to not let him/her get away with shit like that.
@TurumbarTurin It's pretty easily to tell when someone really doesn't care for the truth (or whether they are being obnoxious) and will say whatever the hell they want and change from topic to topic. Almost1974's mind is made up and he has an agenda, and at that point is about a.) not letting him get away with shit b.) showing the rest of the viewers how idiotic this religious line of thinking is.
@TurumbarTurin again ur assuming things, just becuz some1 says they are Christians doesn't mean they are, goin to church doesn't automatically make u 1,
ur sayin God lied and the Bible says He cannot lie, so what He said must be tru,
all those who claim to be doin Gods work while killin others are insane for sure, the Bible doesn't tell them to kill people, they just make the REAL Christians look bad
@Almost1974 "just becuz some1 says they are Christians doesn't mean they are, goin to church doesn't automatically make u 1" And there we have the prophesized no true scotsman fallacy. Look it up.
Are you saying that no one that commits suicide or goes insane are true christians?
I never mentioned any murderers, did you assume that I meant criminally insane when I said insane?
@TurumbarTurin nope I am not sayin "no one that commits suicide or goes insane are true christians", christians do dumb things like everyone else at times, I was just saying ur assuming they're christians, hard to tell nowadays cuz every1 is so fake or scared to admit if they are,
I have no idea what I thought u meant by the insane comment, can't remember now, maybe I assumed the wrong thing,
@Almost1974 So, those real christians that commit suicide or go insane, can they be said to have been able to handle what was given them?
If they can be said to have handled what was given them there is nothing they could have done to show themselves unable to handle it making god's assurance nonsensical and if they can't be said to have hacked it your god lied, which one is it?
@TurumbarTurin nobody can answer that w/o assuming alot of things, no1 but God knows what they believe in their hearts,
a Christian is some1 who follows Christ not just some1 who claims to believe in God or who goes to church, there is a big difference, satan believes on God but he isn't a follower of Christ,
so u can't just assume they're Christians, it's just not that easy,
God doesn't lie to us, why would He do that? He gave us the Bible and Jesus so we could join Him heaven,
@Almost1974 You've already agreed that commiting suicide or to go insane does not disqualify them as christians, so those true christians that do commit suicide or go insane, can they be said to have been able to handle what was given them?
It's a simple yes or no question, don't try and deflect.
Why god would lie to us? For the fuck of it, it does all kinds of cruel stuff in your holy book and lying would be the least of it's cruelty.
@TurumbarTurin "those true christians that commit suicide, can they handle what was given them" NO, thats the answer ur lookin 4 rite, still want to know how YOU know they are tru christians when thats impossible to know,
u evolutionist like to assume things but never admit ur assuming ,
the whole evolution theory is based on assumptions and no1 wants to admit it,
yes the Bible is full of murderers/bad ppl, but thats just to show us God can use any1 for His purpose, noy hard to figure out
@Almost1974 you're claiming that we are "assuming" that evolucionism is real. let me put it this way, NOTHING, i repeat, NOTHING can be a 100% certainty, for the only exception of Math. for instance, when you greet your mother at breakfast, how can you know for sure thats your mother? isnt it possible an alien actually kidnapped, murdered and taken your real mother's place? it certainly is possible. plausible? deffinitely not. we "assume" evolution the same way you "assume" your mother is real
@BattousaiHBr aliens don't exist, atleast not aliens from another planet,
my mother is real based on facts not mans opinion,
ur right tho nothin can be proven 100% in theory, but evolution can't be proven in any aspect without makin alot of assumptions first,they just don't want to admit that cuz the only alternative is GOD did it like He said He did,
@Almost1974 "aliens don't exist" now who's assuming things? i'll agree if you say they've never came anywhere near our planet, but its more likely that there ARE other intelligent lifeforms out there. math proves it.
besides, evolution is so much more likely to be what really happened rather than "god" that its victory is overwhelming. the only thing your theory wins at is by popular vote, which we all know is as good as shit.
@BattousaiHBr math cant prove aliens exist, and I cant prove they dont,
"evolution is more likely?" in what way?
ALL animals/humans bring forth after their kind,thats all we ever observe, just like the Bible says, they want to use the magic ingredient of millions of yrs to make it seem more logical but thats just stupid, time makes everything worse but they want us to think we got better over time? duh thats stupid too,
one time i was told that earth was actually created when some planet called nibiru collided with a planet between mars and jupiter called tiamat and it pushed tiamat to where earth currently is and that the asteroid belt is the peices that remain from the collision. ive looked it up and theres a lot of stuff on it.. im not saying its true, but it is WAY more logical than believing some mystical creature in the skies created everything
DubSteppin003 3 days ago
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If there is proof of God why is there so many religions? My evidence that God does not exist is the fact that there is so many right religions. Common sense says they're all wrong because there is not 1 absolute religion. Why would he want everyone on this planet creating wars over him? Why are people dying for him? I thought he died for us and why doesn't he do it again to set the record straight? He's not perfect if he was he'd make sure to come back and die again so his children don't die
Pasling270 3 days ago
what a dumb caller
bsting601 3 days ago
i have my own proof that god is real everyone who says he isnt is stupid...i know hes real for one simple thing MARIJUANA ...thank you for your time
homemovies1012 1 week ago 4
@homemovies1012 zing!
Steamsteam 1 week ago
one thing people don't understand that god has always been...atheists believe that the thing that expanded has always been..or might...so the universe is ur god if u believe that..but religious people believe that all knowing one created all this is the deference...we refer to god as the one or the thing where all started from or because of him..so its more logical that smart one or thing created us smart the beings than we came some how in this universe..thats my humble opinion!!
obadah13 1 week ago
@obadah13 can you please re-write that in a coherent sentence.
kempsdaman 1 week ago
@kempsdaman some thing must have always been and that is god.....if ur atheist ur god is the universe or the thing that expanded or what ever u think might has always been..if ur religious ur god is a powerful one that can do aything
obadah13 6 days ago
@obadah13 well no, thats just your interpretation of what "god" is. i dont consider the universe to be god.
kempsdaman 6 days ago
@kempsdaman god is the source...that doesnt have a beggining!!!!...any way i want to point to that its more logical to belive that smart creatures like us were created by all kmowing one rather than we were created somehow in this universe.we are smart beings and all what we made is robots and we r smart so to make beings so smart like us..or lets say brain developed like us someone must be greater than us to create us..thats my belief u dont have to share!
obadah13 6 days ago
@obadah13 well then you have to show that something doesn't have to have a beginning. And unfortunately you're wrong, it isn't more logical to believe that. We know how we came to be, and we know how this planet and the solar system came to be. What we don't know is how the universe as a whole came to be. But it is in no way logical to believe that an "all knowing one" done it. And even if there was how do you know he is "all knowing" maybe he could just be part knowing?
kempsdaman 6 days ago
If "god" is so powerful.. why the hell was he unable to create this eve bitch without one of adams rib? it sounds more like an alien experimentation and that is way more logical than believing some all powerful "god" did it. seriously, you christians are brainwashed fools. stop being unproductive and help find true answers.
DubSteppin003 1 week ago
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downyourtube 2 weeks ago
lol it's so stupid on how the callers don't back up their claims.
LOCUSTHATER666 3 weeks ago
i wish i had matt's patience
AGRANT716 3 weeks ago
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oh holy father...ur son is haploid with only 23 chromosome of holy mother,,.compared to homosapian 46 chromosomes...sure he had diseases like" turners.."or holy ovum might not undergone that meiotic division..confusion confusion..help me out oh holy father
MrNutrino 3 weeks ago
Who else noticed that the Preacher/Atheist says "My god" in frustration? Doesn't that mean that he has a God? Otherwise it's just words that mean nothing.
FLYBITERacing 3 weeks ago
@FLYBITERacing It's a common expression used in our culture to show that we are frustrated. So yes, those words themselves don't really mean anything in this case. He could have said "fuckcockjizzonmyface," instead of "my god," and everyone would know that he was frustrated by the caller. Instead, he went with something that people actually say everyday, and that he was probably conditioned to say before becoming an atheist.
UpoundBUTTS 3 weeks ago
@UpoundBUTTS I was only saying it to bitch. I really didn't care, I know Atheists and Satanists and Christians and Jews etc. all say it to express their frustration. Although saying "fuckcockjizzonmyface" would have made me laugh, a lot. But, yeah. I was only commenting that to be a dick I guess. Just to get peoples gote.
FLYBITERacing 3 weeks ago
@FLYBITERacing Haha as you should. This is youtube after all. That was just the thirtieth time that I'd seen a similar comment on an atheist video and finally wanted to set some dumbasscockmonger straight. Instead...I got trolled
UpoundBUTTS 3 weeks ago
@UpoundBUTTS Lol all in good fun man
FLYBITERacing 3 weeks ago
I am an atheist but religion ingeneral I think hashelped people tohave something to move on. I meanif you donthave a heaven youwould questionyourself why doinggood thingswhile youcan dobad thingsOur mainlaws arebased onall thediffererentreligions (that iswhy nowadays we dont actually need religion). Religion give people hope to live for, it gives them grieve that the bad guy will pay the consequences. Eventhough religion has killed over millions of people with persecutions it has helped in a way
felistacey 3 weeks ago
@felistacey just finished the video lol and i think that many bad things can be done without the concern of others or without having a reprecursion
felistacey 3 weeks ago
@felistacey
Dont you hate swype?
papermermaid 3 weeks ago
@papermermaid who the #$% is swype lol
felistacey 3 weeks ago
Believing in science has sure gotten us far, if you believe in global warming that essentially says that science and progress has screwed us in that sense. I won't sit here and say progress is bad because it isn't but some of the "progress" we have made is backwords in my eyes. People in the great country of America can barely hold a conversation without getting confused or losing attention. Texting is taking away from all basic social skills and is making my generation even more inept
BabySmasher14534 1 month ago
@BabySmasher14534 I'd rather have hope in people being able to work together than to hope for a God that we don't even know truly exists to intervene. Hope is not a really justifiable reason to believe in a God, in my opinion, but I guess that's just my opinion. I don't say "screw it all" ever, I feel as though we should live cooperatively and keep our species moving forward, so how is that negative at all?
66gt40lm 4 weeks ago
@BabySmasher14534 I take it from your second comment that you reject science because you give it such a negative connotation? How has science regressed our species? And yes, it's regressed, not "progressed backwards." I don't really agree with the comment generalizing Americans like that, either. While most or Americans are stupid fucks, there are some, like me, who are far beyond an intellectual level you will ever obtain. If anyone here is inept, it's you.
66gt40lm 4 weeks ago
It's funny how idiots on here battle back and forth here on youtube. To be honest I'd rather be an "ignorant" person and believe in something that gives us all hope. The worlds gone to hell society blows it's true wether you're an athiest christian kid or adult it's true. Instead of being miserable and thinking on a note that we live die and that's it just doesn't really strike me as positive and a way I would like to live and it's sad that people just accept it and just say screw it all.
BabySmasher14534 1 month ago
atheism essentially is a non belief... If there is no real evidence or proof to support a theory that can explain the beginning of our universe or to disprove of the existence of a God or divine entity then the evidence is in favor of religion
The bible is evidence whether people except it or not for the same reason that we can call a witness up to testify in court. There is nothing to prevent the witness from lying but there are things we can observe to verify the truth and use as evidence
revelthehunter 1 month ago
@revelthehunter there is evidence supporting a theory that explains the origin of the universe; what do you think the big bang theory is? Nothing in the bible can ever be proved. the bible is as much evidence for anything than is any modern fiction.
and its actually nothing like calling a witness to testify in court. There is no evidence for the bibles text
we observe the world as it is now, and so far we havent seen anything like a talking snake or something as equally ludicrous
Fewsandpiper 1 month ago
@Fewsandpiper no evidence supporting bible text? are you serious? im not talking about the old testament im talking about the new testament, you know... the part with jesus? youre telling me theres no evidence to say jesus existed? lol
big bang theory is just a string of popular theories... in REALITY there is no SOLID evidence to support it and its the same for evolutionary mutation...
revelthehunter 1 month ago
@revelthehunter yes thats exactly what im saying, im glad you understand. care to share? youde be the first to give good evidence
what do you think the cosmic microwave background is? or fossils? or EVOLUTION THAT YOU CAN SEE TODAY in the form of new strains of bacteria or insects with resistances to certain antibodies or insecticides?
if there is a god, he clearly set out to deceive every intelligent person on this earth by giving us great evidence to think he doesnt exist
Fewsandpiper 1 month ago
@Fewsandpiper google it... im not gonna sit here and name of historical events and artifacts for you...
cosmic microwave background isnt solid evidence for the big bang theory. calling it solid evidence is like calling the universe itself evidence.
whether or not the big bang happened doesnt matter either.I imagine God would created a universe that could explain itself, that doesn't mean there isn't some sort of transcendental entity that created it
revelthehunter 1 month ago
@revelthehunter There is no evidence for a historical Jesus. Not one word was written about him during his supposed lifetime, not even the books of the NT. Extra biblical sources claimed by christians as "proof," such as Josephus and Tacitus, are hearsay or forgeries. They were born after Jesus purportedly died, so had no firsthand knowledge.
YY4Me133 1 month ago
@revelthehunter Evolution is backed up rather nicely. There is even more evidence for the Theory of Evolution than the Theory of Gravity. I don't suppose you reject that gravity happens too, right? Also, there is no evidence that Jesus existed, or that the New Testament is any more accurate and true than the Old Testament.
Can I ask you, did Jesus have long hair?
66gt40lm 4 weeks ago
If the possibility of non-belief exists, then it is not proof. Proof leaves no room for doubt.
Cowcharge 1 month ago
@yetikeeper You're absolutly right. Thanks for your comment ;) i have to calm down in these situations
Damaz197 1 month ago
See, the problem is that, men can be the most filthy race on earth, capable of using something as pure as the idea of god and religion to use it to their own advantage. But please, keep in mind that there IS many people who do good things by following the book.
Damaz197 1 month ago
Why do atheist have to ve such assholes? I seriously beginning to hate those two individuals. The red shirt guy need to shut his mouth, BIG TIME!! I don't even care about his believes, he is just a rude person who thinks his smart. Being a douche doesnt help to prove his point.
Damaz197 1 month ago
@Damaz197 The caller made a bunch of claims which all have been refuted. It gets frustrating.
d007ization 1 month ago
@Damaz197 to "hate" is so not christian. However to "not care about his beliefs" is very christian
yetikeeper 1 month ago
Religion, it's such a crazy thing? People please.... If some one tels you something out of the norm don't you go and find out for your self whether it's true or not? Why in the world would any one belive such a kakanany thing as religions? It's all bean made up by the ones who wanted power and money period. The real history is out there why won't any one find out what really hapend? It's soo in trusting ? Iven Jesus was a scam yes Jesus ..
jtalada 1 month ago
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Proof that God exists can be found by reading Romans 1. "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" (Romans 1:20)
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jocylean 1 month ago
god is real >>>you better believe that
sh3ifan 1 month ago
@sh3ifan if hes real then he can show me a sign
xTemLx 1 month ago
@xTemLx
you seen the sign but you Didn't notice look at the Mirror and you will see it
sh3ifan 1 month ago
@sh3ifan what is the sign, i have no clue whether or not theres a God, im not saying there isn't.
xTemLx 1 month ago
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@xTemLx Proof that God exists can be found by reading Romans 1. "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" (Romans 1:20)
SinnersBurnInHell 1 month ago
@sh3ifan When I look in the mirror I see my own reflection - not signs of a "deity."
Besides, "signs" can and often are misleading..they depend on subjective interpretation which are often different from each other, and are open to misinterpretation. If by seeing your reflection you visibly see a sign for a god, then this is something that can be tested and confirmed by anyone, even non-believers.
Let's test your claim under laboratory conditions, shall we?
BastEternal 1 month ago
ABSOLUTE LEGENDS!
StumblaSoundz 1 month ago
What is so bad about answering a question with a question? All it does is progress a conversation, It builds the conversation instead of "QUESTION ANSWER END OF THE DISCUSSION" answering a question with a question creates progression, that is the problem with theists they want (or believe) that certain questions have definite answers when in reality that is false but theists cannot see this because they are closed minded.
LogicalStatements1 1 month ago 3
@LogicalStatements1 what is so wrong with religion itself? why cant athiests just accept the fact that people have a religion, that they believe in a god? they cant because the one who is closed minded is ATHIESTS themselves. answering a question with a question does not creat progesion due to the fact that if you respond with another question, your creating anoher argument leaving the other one unfinished. all im trying to say is, what is so wrong with religion.
vader671 1 month ago
@vader671 all religious people are also closed minded, its only agnostics that aren't closed minded and are willing to accept evidence from both sides. There is nothing wrong with religion, but the believers make it seem like there's something wrong with there extremists.
xTemLx 1 month ago
@xTemLx alright, you can say what you want about religious people, you can read me the whole dang bible like these people, but you cant disprove god. not only that but the question remains why cant athiests just accept religous people. oh and by the way, athiests base their answers on scientific proof, claiming that there is no proof for a god. but answer this, is it harder to accept that there is a god in a spirit form that created civilization, or is it so easy to believe that a big bang did?
vader671 1 month ago
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@vader671 okay so your annoyed because atheists cant accept religious people, but may i ask you why cant religious people accept atheists. I'm not disproving God, if you actually read what i said rather then going on defensive mode straight away i quite clearly said '' i have no clue whether or not theres a God, im not saying there isn't.'' also atleast bassing your idea on scientific proof is relavent, the bible is how many yeas old, and the fact that rules about religion are changing?
xTemLx 1 month ago
@vader671 It is not about what is "easier" to believe. It's about evidence.
The call is not about accepting "religious people." The problem with the caller is that he is PRESUMING a "higher being" and expects everyone to just accept it and not ask questions since the "research" has been done. Well, it's not going to happen.
I don't accept ANYTHING without evidence, and that includes things that are, according to YOU, "easier" to believe.
BastEternal 1 month ago
@vader671 How can you deny that answering a question with a question progresses a conversation? and other than that makes one or the other party think even more than they were doing to start with.
Believing in a "god" is ok with me, organised religions aka cults are not.
LogicalStatements1 1 month ago
@LogicalStatements1 how can I? because your really not answering the question that was asked. your wrong about it progressing a conversation, because if i were to ask you a question and your answer is in a form of another question, your just creating another argument out of your question. in other words, its a way of getting out of answering the question that was asked. organized religions are cults? so an organized athiest show is not? (cont)
vader671 1 month ago
@vader671 answering a question with a question cannot end a conversation is what you are basically saying:
Is there an animal on the planet that can fly?
Well can most birds fly?
conversation over.
answered a question with a question that ended a conversation.
LogicalStatements1 1 month ago
@LogicalStatements1 If there is no answer from either side, then both are at fault.
d007ization 1 month ago
@LogicalStatements1 do me a favor and think about racism for a minute. think about how they did it back then. blacks were treated like animals, why? because they were black. now take this into a religous effect. picture a world run by athiests. look at how religous people are treated by athiests. could you imagin how the world would be? to be honest, it would be a second houlocost. just because your black does not mean your a bad person. just because you have a religion does no mean the same.
vader671 1 month ago
@vader671 I think you have a very warped view on atheists , to be in atheist is not to be part of a sect.
To be an atheist is to be an individual pure and simple, have you ever heard of the ability to "free think" that is what an atheist does, they think for them self and not influenced by something that has been forced upon them or something people say to be true, they think about it and come to a conclusion to whether or not it is true, so it is no wonder why most atheists believe the truth.
LogicalStatements1 1 month ago
@vader671 For instance , in my mind I don't need to be called an atheist because I am just a humane human being, I did not grow up around any religion and I have had no theistic friends throughout my whole life, none of my family are theistic , thousands of people I have interacted with and 0.1% of them were theist , It is just not part of my life, hence the Logic in my username, I am sorry but religion is a waste of time for it accomplishes nothing that an atheist cannot do.
LogicalStatements1 1 month ago
lmao what a fucking moron on the phone! this guy accually angered me with his stupidity
ladev91 2 months ago
lmao what a fucking moron on the phone!
ladev91 2 months ago
Wow overload of anger and pride on one side of the argument
BeatsByBeth 2 months ago
Continued: If there is the same amount of - energy as + energy, that means the universe = 0. The only universe that can = 0 is one that came from “nothing”… So, when someone asks “how can this universe come from nothing?”, I respond by saying “a universe that = 0 can only come from nothing”. There is no need for a God, the laws of physics tell us that you could have absolutely “nothing”, with energy equal to 0, and quantum fluctuations could create a universe.
theBartone9119 2 months ago
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The total energy of the universe is zero, loosely speaking, the negative gravitational potential energy exactly balances, i do like that theory too :D, but dont forget there are other ones too.
Silent33091 2 months ago
Quantum theory and special relativity indicate that “nothing” is simply a boiling bubbling brew of virtual particles popping in and out of existence, nothing actually has weight. 90% of a proton’s weight is due to this “nothing”, since protons and neutrons are what most of your body is made out of, 70% of your body is actually made out “nothing”. There is actually the same amount of negative energy in the universe as positive energy. the - energy of gravity balances out the + energy of matter.
theBartone9119 2 months ago
The proof for God is there, but no religious person will believe it.
The Creator has posted a video on YouTube. The message comes to you directly, without the need for transcription or interpretation by bronze-age scribes, or analysis by Stephen Hawking.
The video tells you how you came to be here, outlines the meaning and purpose of your life, and gives you an insight into the future of humankind.
See ' God says sorry. '
lacontrabasse 2 months ago
lol man made the religion so that people will make choices.If they didnt teach us about heaven and hell we will make the wrong choice exp. If you want to kill some one and then u remember about going to hell if you did that you probably wont do it.Prople back then were smart they made religion so the crime and stuff will decrease and that was a good thing if they were no religion the world will never be safe well its never been....
king94713 2 months ago
@king94713 god, you're so arrogant. first of all, if you kill you might go to JAIL. isn't jail a good enough insentive not to kill? even if you knew you could commit a crime and go free, it doesnt mean hell is the only thing keeping you from doing it. i don't believe in god or hell and i've had countless oportunities to commit crimes without getting caught, yet i've never commited one. how do you explain that smartass? i tell you, its called INTEGRITY, and it wasnt god who gave us it.
BattousaiHBr 2 months ago
@BattousaiHBr im talking aabout long long long long..... time ago theres no jail.
king94713 2 months ago
@BattousaiHBr the other guy got angry cause he disrespect his god and want to teach him a lesson and to show him his god is the best so the other guy want to show him that his god is better than his so they fought THE END.
king94713 2 months ago
@king94713 secondly, "right" and "wrong" are but a matter of point of view, and you don't even need religion for that either. and since you were talking about religion earlier, did you know that religion is the number 1 cause of murders in human history?
use your head next time before spouting nonsense, will you?
BattousaiHBr 2 months ago
@BattousaiHBr I know about all of that shit i tell you some thing why the war about religion happened example this guy believe in other god and the other guy believe that his god is better than the other guys god and they fought cause they starting to disrespect the god of their own and god angry and want to hurt him or punish him for looking so low to his god... YOU GET IT NOW...OK NOW SHUT UP!! I dont want anyone to know that god dont exist cause if no1 believe in God every1 will do crazy sht
king94713 2 months ago
i find the bible to be contradictive... it sets rules and guidelines of which we must follow in our lives, one of those being that we are all treat each other equal in order to live peacefully, yet, Christianity threatens hell to those that do not comply. Where's the peace in that? I find the idea of God quite threatening and intimidating, which is not the way believers describe him.
TOM71292 2 months ago
Evolution is proven fact. But the universe exists..therefore it was created. So there must be a force of some kind that triggered that. There is a God (of sorts)
MyFuckcunt 2 months ago
@MyFuckcunt what is the proof of abiogenesis?
JuicYouS 2 months ago
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downyourtube 2 months ago
The caller is a complete fucktard
nhbiker1961 2 months ago
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Anyone who thinks the God of the Bible doesn't exist and doesn't control everything is clearly ignorant and delusional
No other God would have fucked up this badly
bigredphenom 2 months ago
@growupplzzr0003 He claimed to have evidence and then refused to provide it when asked, he should have been hung up on long before he was and slapped besides for wasting everybody's time with his lies.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
I think it's far more rewarding to do good deeds in spite of there not being a god. It means I'm being a good person because it's a choice I make. It's something I can control, and I'm not being bribed or swayed or manipulated by any ulterior motive to do someone else a solid. I don't need a reward. The reward is built right in to the deed itself. In fact, I find people who do good deeds in the name of any god harder to trust...
rpm297 2 months ago
It's all just silly superstitions. Do we live in the 21st century or not?? Science and logic ftw!!!
dkthg 2 months ago
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Just more proof that Christians really don't have a damn clue what they are talking about. They are brainwashed.
TheThunderduck 2 months ago
these guys are morons, don't they know GOD doesn't believe in Atheist,
there's no such thing as an athiest anyways, just ppl who don't want to believe cuz of the lifestyle
God Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 Completely wrong. I live a good and caring life. After I started studying the Bible, I realized it made absolutely no sense when compared to historical and scientifically testable facts. Sorry, you lose.
TheThunderduck 2 months ago
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@TheThunderduck a good and caring life is good, but u still sin like the rest of us,
what historical and scientifically testable facts? tell me more curious to hear bout this,
hope 1 of em isn't the religion of evolution masquerading as science
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
sit the fuck down son
whocareslol222222 2 months ago
all u athiest out there ur saying this jus random wow ur dumb there has to be a creator
coltman1000 2 months ago
god is real there have been so many close to death experiences with proof
coltman1000 2 months ago
@coltman1000 Oh? Well, we're all for evidence so please provide a near death experience with evidence.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@coltman1000 thats like saying there is a santa claus because christmas happens
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
Just because there is no proof of something be it anything does not mean that it doesn't exist!
TheHENRY73 2 months ago
@TheHENRY73 Yes you are correct that just cos there is no proof it doesnt mean it doesnt exist, but you are not justified in believing that it DOES exist, until there is evidence to support it.
Eg, there is no evidence that fairies exist, that doesnt mean in itself that fairies dont exist, but you are not justified in believing that fairies DO exist, until you have proof, or at least some supporting evidence.
rossini55 2 months ago
@TheHENRY73 yes sir, you are correct, everyone thinks if it's not scientific it can't exist or be real, yet ALL the time we see miracles happen that cannot be explained by any scientific method, so to their logic miracles don't exist but they happen on a daily basis, I feel for those ppl
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 We see miracles all the time? Name one that can be verified to be a miracle and not just an unlikely event.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin well all the time u hear bout someone who was clinically dead for several minutes and comes back, what do u think that is? an unlikely event?
and those are only the ones we hear about,
an unlikely event would be winning the lottery without buying a ticket, or an evolutionist being right about something, it 8nt gonna happen
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 I think people being clinically dead for several minutes and then comming back is a testament to the skill of doctors. It can be done with any animal as well, do you really think that god would waste miracles on animals?
A miracle as I understand it is something that is physically impossible and still happens, anything less is just higher or lower odds and is not indicative of anything supernatural, not even a magical mouse could be proven to exist with long odds.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin skill of the doctors? then why don't they bring bak ALL of them? God made the doctors, why not give Him credit for a miracle? Thinkin that God is wasting miracles puts limits on what He can do, so the god ur thinkin of would not be THE GOD of the Bible (KJV) cuz He has no limits or he wouldn't be God.
u say "not indicative of anything supernatural", maybe not, but that doesn't rule out the supernatural aspect,
obviously no1 can prove a miracle, with God u always beat the odds
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 By your logic anyone who plays a perfect game in bowling should be able to do it every time, and not only that, should play flawlessly in all other sports and/or games as well.
If god is shown to exist I'll give credit where it is due.
I didn't say god only had a certain number of miracles, I just asked why suspend the physical laws for an animal.
No fantastic claim should be believed just because it hasn't been ruled out or you'd have to believe all fantastic claims.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin what does bowling have to do with anything I said?
ur assuming God would have to "suspend the physical lawsl" i am sure God loves animals too since He created them, plus the physical laws only apply to us, God is outside of time, space, and matter and not stuck in it like we are.
I agree, u shouldn't believe nething just cuz it hasn't been ruled out, and u shouldn't put ur faith in mans word either, yet so many think scientist have all the answers, thats just dumb
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 Just because doctors can manage the difficult feat of bringing someone back from a little bit beyond death caused by say drowning, you ask why they don't bring all back from all causes of death.
That is like asking why a perfect game bowler doesn't get a hole in one every time he plays golf.
If he doesn't have to suspend the physical laws why call it a miracle? Or do you think that hitting the waste basket three in a row with a wad of paper can be called a miracle if ur so inclined?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin again ur assuming things, like the fact that the doctors are why they survived,
a miracle can happen w/o suspending th physical laws,
a female friend of mine passed out due to heart probs in a location where not much traiffic, yet a cop happened to pass by at the right moment and saw the car in ditch, considerin the location and time of night, IMO that had to be a miracle that God sent a cop by there at the right moment or she would have probably died.....cont......
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 If we look at similar cases of drowning and compare the ones with doctors and those without, which do you think has the higher survival rate?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@Almost1974 what happens though if that cop is an atheist
then no god sent him
he was there right time right place
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 cop? theres no such thing as an athiest, just those who dont want to believe, plus God doesn't believe in athiest anyways,
God speaks to athiests also, they just don't want to hear the message
Almost1974 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin cont....anyways not all would agree that was a miracle that sent the cop to her, and it can't be proven that it was, but not everything has to be proven by science for it to exist
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 If I tell a story of an unlikely death, does that invalidate your hypothesis?
If it doesn't, why should your story convince?
Nothing has to be scientifically investigated in order to exist but everything has to be in order for a rational person to believe it to exist.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin u like asking questions but not answering them,
again i ask
can a creationist be a scientist? or do they have to believe in evolution?
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 Look at the post where you first asked that question, my answer is just below it.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@Almost1974 You say you agree that a claim shouldn't be believed until proven and yet you do. You believe in god and are, so far, unable to show a rational reason for your belief.
I don't think that there are that many who thinks that scientists have all the answers, I don't and I don't think that I've even met or spoken to a person over the internet who thinks that.
But what scientists are claiming to know is backed by evidence, the only people that trust mans word are religious.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin open ur eyes and look around, EVERYTHING u see is made for a purpose, so the only logical explanation is some1(GOD) made it, if not why would it exist?
any1 who believes evolution has to put faith in man (scientist) to have the answers, simply becuz there is no proof of the dumb theory, ALL the evidence they use in text books have been proven wrong and yet they still teach they kids like its fact,
evolution is a religion cuz u have to believe it happened
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 So if an illprepared would be murderer finds a very sharp rock just at the site where he is to do his murder and uses it to kill with, did then god have that purpose in mind when he made the rock or did the adaptive quality of the murderer just utilize a naturally occuring rock?
You see, where you see purpose I see adaptation in both individuals and in species.
Evolution is a fact, change over time does happen.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin did God make lead so we can make bullets and kill ppl? NO
thats just stupid,
Yes change over time happens, BUT its limited, a dog always stays a dog, mite be bigger or smaller but still a dog,
evolutionist want u to believe that there are no limits,
evolution is a religion and a hoax and has no real evidence, millions of years is always their excuse as to why we don't see ANYTHING evolving today,
God Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 actually evolution by definition is not a religion
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
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@mermaidsareppl222 "evolution by definition is not a religion" so what is it then? it damn sure isn't science, u cant observe, test, experiment with anything evolution has to offer,
if u think it's science then u need help understanding the defintion
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 If all have been proven false, maybe you'd care to name one that is currently believed by the scientific community to support the theory of evolution?
Also, for arguments sake let's say the theory of evolution is proven false, what evidence supports the genesis hypothesis?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin I don't keep up with evolution crap, new theories don't pass the test of time and always are proven inaccurate,
in Genesis theres proof for the world wide flood (fossils), bones don't bury themselves so there had to be a massive flood,
there are erosion marks all over the world in places it never rains, again massive flood,
search Sandstone Swirls, obviously those erosion marks are from the massive flood,
God gives us evidence all around and ppl still don't want to believe it
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 You not keeping up with "evolution crap" means you yet again don't have a single shred of evidence to back up your claims.
Sandstone swirls, wind erosion is a much more likely explanation than the seemingly impossible world wide flood one, occham's razor applies.
Erosion marks, if shown to be made from rain, tectonic plates moving about so that where rain now never falls has seen rain before.
A world wide flood would only prove a world wide flood, it does nothing to prove creation.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin why keep up with evolution? 100 + yrs since Darwin and still no proof,
wind erosion in solid rock? how hard do u think the wind was blowing? how about the Arizona Rock formation, do u think wind coulda possible done that? lacks common sense,
a world wide flood is the ONLY reason we find so many dinosaurs/animals together in 1 place in the fossil graveyards, animals don't bury themselves
ur right a WW flood doesn't prove creation, it's 1 of many proofs the Bible is correct tho
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 Actually Darwin's theory has more evidence backing it up than any other theory in any scientific field but of course you don't know that since you don't keep up with "evolution crap".
The question is rather how long than how hard the wind has been blowing.
It only lacks common sense if you think the earth is 6000 yrs old.
It seems you are under the impression that there is a dinosaur graveyard... are you talking about a prehistoric massgrave of some sort?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin whats evidence does Darwins theory have thats solid to u?, most has been proven wrong and the new sttuff won't pass the test of time, it never does,
if the earth is milions of yrs old why is there ONLY 7 billion ppl here? should be ALOT more if u do the math,
fossil graveyards, not dino's only,
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 What in Darwins theory is solid to me? How about all that the scientific community have a consensus about.
It's because our species didn't exist for all those billions, that's billions with a b not a m, of years.
Please tell me more about this fossil graveyard, where is it located?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@Almost1974 lol... i mean... are you serious???? "do the math"? aparently you don't even know how to do math, so don't go demanding it from others.
BattousaiHBr 2 months ago
@Almost1974 plagues wipe out people, takes many years to catch up to that number it was at pre plague
and same for wars
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
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@mermaidsareppl222 "plagues wipe out people, takes many years to catch up to that number it was at pre plague and same for wars"
I have no clue what this statement is referring to.
explain if u would
GOD BLESS u
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 so then if the bible is correct, where are all the talking snakes?
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 where in the Bible does it say talking snakes?
I have no doubt God can make any anything talk that He wants to & there is mention of a talking Jackass in the Bible,
ur tryin to put limits on God when He has no limits,
God Bless u
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 the story of Adam and eve
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
@Almost1974 The best example that comes to mind is belief in the resurrection because of the testimony of the alleged witnesses in the bible. That is trust in man's word if I've ever seen it.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin God inspired the Bible and promised to preserve His word, that's not trust in mans word, plus ur assuming they are liars, u could win that case in a court of law with those same witnesses , tho i don't trust the court system today
question: in ur opinion
can a creationist be a scientist? or do they have to believe in evolution?
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 I'm not assuming they lied, I just said to believe their testimony is to trust man's word.
You're assuming the initial point, also known as petitio principii or begging the question, if god doesn't exist it didn't inspire the bible, when you've shown that god exists and that it is the god of the bible and that god would never lie or have someone lie for him, then you can use the bible as evidence.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin the Bible has evidence, God doesn't need man to prove He exists,
the Bible mentions springs in the sea, we didn't know there were springs in the sea til the 1970's area,
thats evidence the Bible is scientifically accurate, but most aren't lookin for the truth,
I believe the Bible by faith yes, but it's not hard when u see the proof all around the world
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974
Job 38:16 Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recesses of the deep?
There wouldn't have to be an "or" in there if they had known that there were deep sea springs.
So no, that's not evidence for it, and even if they had been clear about it it would only prove they had that knowledge and nothing about how they knew, with nothing else forthcomming you'd have to use an argument from ignorance, "how else could they have known"?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin ur kidding right? God is asking 2 questions the EXACT same way we would ask 2day,
ofcourse God was clear there were springs in the sea, He put them there,
if u don't think thats evidence then ur closed minded or don't know the difinition of evidence,
that 1 verse has more evidence for the Bible than any evidence evolution has to offer, since there is none
GOD BLess
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 Exactly, 2 questions. Had the authors of the bible known about deep sea springs it would have been 1 question, the verse would then have been "Have you journeyed to the springs deep in the sea?"
Even if that had been the case, it would not have been direct evidence for god, it would have been that the authors had knowledge the technology level did not permit and that is it.
You really need to learn what evidence is and not accuse me of not knowing.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin if u knew anything bout the Bible u would know the book of JOB is full of rhetorical questions asked by God, which means He isn't lookin for an answer, the authors knew they were springs in the sea, why else would it even be mentioned, and I didnt say that proved God, it proves that part of the Bible is correct tho,
I know what evidence is, thats why I say there is none for evolution cuz of assumptions,
not hard to figure out
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 That's what I'm saying, it's not mentioned in the bible. What they do mention is springs of the sea and the recesses of the deep, not that the springs of the sea are in the deep recesses.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@Almost1974 evolution has indeed been proven. i don't remember who did it, but there was this experiment where you'd put a bacteria collony in a vessel and give it less and less food. most of them would die first but later on the collony would regrow with a new bacteria better at retaining its "food".
BattousaiHBr 2 months ago
@BattousaiHBr about the bacteria statement, think about that logic,
they started with bacteria and ended up with bacteria,
evolution says u gain NEW improved information, and also claims to evolve from 1 lifeform to another,
if u start with bacteria and end with it thats not evolution,
plus ur assuming the bacteria made itself and that life can start by itself, none of that has been proven or is even logical, u have to assume it did,
GOD Bless You
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 I didn't say if god was clear there were springs in the sea, I said; if the authors of the bible had been explicit about there being springs in the sea.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@Almost1974 Of course a creationist can be a scientist, I have a harder time seeing a creationist as a scientist in biology but maybe there is someone able to compartmentalize his/her beliefs enough.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
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@TurumbarTurin kool, glad to hear u say creationist can be a scientist,
u say "maybe there is someone able to compartmentalize his/her beliefs enough"
u don't have to put aside ur beliefs if all ur lookin for is the truth,
we all have the same evidence to look at but come to opposite conclusions,
ur interpretation of the evidence is where most go wrong
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 Well, if I ever come across a creationist biologist I'll make sure to ask about it.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@Almost1974 What do you mean with no one can prove a miracle? That no one can prove that a miracle is a miracle or what?
How do you know that?
What does "with god u always beat the odds" mean? That if you believe in god all odds are always beaten?
Then why aren't all christian winning the lottery every week and always surviving all illnesses to boot?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin I mean if a miracle happens u can't prove or disprove whether is was one or not, if u think u can show me,
God/Jesus provides for those who choose to follow Him, that doesn't mean u will win the lottery, God doesn't need the lottery to take care of ur needs, He knows what u need more than u do,
being a Christian doesn't mean u won't go thru hard times, God says He won't put u thru anything u can't handle,
so unless u have given ur life to God it's impossible to argue against that
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 You claim that no one can prove that a miracle is a such and therefore need to show how you know that it can't be proven.
Then what does "with god you always beat the odds" mean?
Then god lied, the evidence; christians who commit suicide. Can they be called to have been able to handle what was given them? How about christians that go insane, do they handle what god gives?
Me thinks I see a no true scotsman fallacy comming up.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin When you read through Almost1974's responses, it's like each sentence contains 4 different problems. You are a brave soul.
Arcexey 2 months ago
@Arcexey Well, I don't do it because I want to convince him/her, I do it to show that s/he only has empty claims and an untenable position. In other words, my only goal is to not let him/her get away with shit like that.
But thank you.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin It's pretty easily to tell when someone really doesn't care for the truth (or whether they are being obnoxious) and will say whatever the hell they want and change from topic to topic. Almost1974's mind is made up and he has an agenda, and at that point is about a.) not letting him get away with shit b.) showing the rest of the viewers how idiotic this religious line of thinking is.
Arcexey 2 months ago
@Arcexey Yes. :)
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin again ur assuming things, just becuz some1 says they are Christians doesn't mean they are, goin to church doesn't automatically make u 1,
ur sayin God lied and the Bible says He cannot lie, so what He said must be tru,
all those who claim to be doin Gods work while killin others are insane for sure, the Bible doesn't tell them to kill people, they just make the REAL Christians look bad
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 "just becuz some1 says they are Christians doesn't mean they are, goin to church doesn't automatically make u 1" And there we have the prophesized no true scotsman fallacy. Look it up.
Are you saying that no one that commits suicide or goes insane are true christians?
I never mentioned any murderers, did you assume that I meant criminally insane when I said insane?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin nope I am not sayin "no one that commits suicide or goes insane are true christians", christians do dumb things like everyone else at times, I was just saying ur assuming they're christians, hard to tell nowadays cuz every1 is so fake or scared to admit if they are,
I have no idea what I thought u meant by the insane comment, can't remember now, maybe I assumed the wrong thing,
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 So, those real christians that commit suicide or go insane, can they be said to have been able to handle what was given them?
If they can be said to have handled what was given them there is nothing they could have done to show themselves unable to handle it making god's assurance nonsensical and if they can't be said to have hacked it your god lied, which one is it?
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin nobody can answer that w/o assuming alot of things, no1 but God knows what they believe in their hearts,
a Christian is some1 who follows Christ not just some1 who claims to believe in God or who goes to church, there is a big difference, satan believes on God but he isn't a follower of Christ,
so u can't just assume they're Christians, it's just not that easy,
God doesn't lie to us, why would He do that? He gave us the Bible and Jesus so we could join Him heaven,
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 You've already agreed that commiting suicide or to go insane does not disqualify them as christians, so those true christians that do commit suicide or go insane, can they be said to have been able to handle what was given them?
It's a simple yes or no question, don't try and deflect.
Why god would lie to us? For the fuck of it, it does all kinds of cruel stuff in your holy book and lying would be the least of it's cruelty.
TurumbarTurin 2 months ago
@TurumbarTurin "those true christians that commit suicide, can they handle what was given them" NO, thats the answer ur lookin 4 rite, still want to know how YOU know they are tru christians when thats impossible to know,
u evolutionist like to assume things but never admit ur assuming ,
the whole evolution theory is based on assumptions and no1 wants to admit it,
yes the Bible is full of murderers/bad ppl, but thats just to show us God can use any1 for His purpose, noy hard to figure out
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 you're claiming that we are "assuming" that evolucionism is real. let me put it this way, NOTHING, i repeat, NOTHING can be a 100% certainty, for the only exception of Math. for instance, when you greet your mother at breakfast, how can you know for sure thats your mother? isnt it possible an alien actually kidnapped, murdered and taken your real mother's place? it certainly is possible. plausible? deffinitely not. we "assume" evolution the same way you "assume" your mother is real
BattousaiHBr 2 months ago
@BattousaiHBr aliens don't exist, atleast not aliens from another planet,
my mother is real based on facts not mans opinion,
ur right tho nothin can be proven 100% in theory, but evolution can't be proven in any aspect without makin alot of assumptions first,they just don't want to admit that cuz the only alternative is GOD did it like He said He did,
GOD Bless
Almost1974 2 months ago
@Almost1974 "aliens don't exist" now who's assuming things? i'll agree if you say they've never came anywhere near our planet, but its more likely that there ARE other intelligent lifeforms out there. math proves it.
besides, evolution is so much more likely to be what really happened rather than "god" that its victory is overwhelming. the only thing your theory wins at is by popular vote, which we all know is as good as shit.
BattousaiHBr 2 months ago
@BattousaiHBr math cant prove aliens exist, and I cant prove they dont,
"evolution is more likely?" in what way?
ALL animals/humans bring forth after their kind,thats all we ever observe, just like the Bible says, they want to use the magic ingredient of millions of yrs to make it seem more logical but thats just stupid, time makes everything worse but they want us to think we got better over time? duh thats stupid too,
GOD Bless You