the end of the song where she gets pissed off makes me sad. i love this track. it does bring a tear to my eye though because despite what important messages she had, Solanas also probably had a very troubled life and probably had a deep pain in her soul. Matmos are brilliant.
Sorry for the intromision but if you wanna said something you should said clearly. Don't talk about killing men 'cos it's a poor publicity for the real feminist who want to fight for their right and loves men too.
@American13psycho I deeply regret the general perception of the feminist movement, because it misunderstands it; I see your point. But Solanas is not to be held responsible for the public's shallow interpretation of her work. Maybe the reason she is so radical in her words is to provoke a reaction, any reaction.
@hvitursnipur Yeah, so someone who plots to kill all men is intelligent. Sure. And then, you get even more nonsensical by calling me a terrorist with no reasons to defend it. A terrorist is someone who attacks with fear and wants people to join them so the terrorist won't attack them anymore. That's kinda what Valerie did. She expressed hate towards men, and then a few men joined her and worked to eliminate other men. Sure, call me a terrorist. No one cares.
@minamu8 well im not so very sure her aim was to 'kill all men' but to castrate them - we can interprate this as a symbolic castration - as a castration of privilages and so on which are available in our culture only for having-a-penis-persons. she wanted to eliminate the male sex - which should be taken as destroying a sex which receives all of the potentional privilages and profits. she just wanted to fight for justice - you can call it terrorism. we are so blind that we cant recognize t
i think you misunderstood her words. have you ever read SCUM? thats a kind of an art-manifesto, very significant for the feminism of the second wave, we dont have to take her words so seriously. she was a writer and a very poor woman who was touched very deeply by the system - thats why she decided to fight against it, fight for justice. if you dont get it - its your opinion, i dont have to agree with it, but i think you shouldTRYtounderstandHER
@minamu8 dear minamu, no, i cant agree with you, im really sorry :) one can not take her words literally - she wanted to kill all men - men:man in the meaning of a human that receives every of potential privilages in that kind of society that we cultivate. thats why she wanted to kill all men - not to murder them, but kill them as men, kill 'the masculinity' (=the acces to this better position in our patriarchal society), cut their penises off (penis in the meaning off a thing that gives one
@minamu8 a chance for a better/easier life). anyway, im sure she was able to realise that murdering every of men is not possible, thats why she used that kind of a subversive provocation to fight with penis as a symbol of power. its just a very motivating and inspirng piece of art-manifesto and it motivated and inspired lots of feminists (not only women-feminists). its up to the level of thinking that you use to try to think it through.
@minamu8 the whole unjustice and when we meet women like valerie or sinead o'connor (who wrapped a photo of jpII) - we call them terrorists. i think that's very convenient - especially for the system...
genius!
ladyflowers 4 days ago
the end of the song where she gets pissed off makes me sad. i love this track. it does bring a tear to my eye though because despite what important messages she had, Solanas also probably had a very troubled life and probably had a deep pain in her soul. Matmos are brilliant.
maxbfrex 1 week ago
Who is doing the reading of the Solanis text?
zaynearmstrong 1 month ago
@zaynearmstrong
Barbara Golden & Yalie Kumara
maelek3 1 month ago
<3 u valerie
idiocyparade 2 months ago
HaHa, sad picture!! TeeHee, Valerie was the COOOLEST ever!! She's just the BEST!! ;D
ariesscorpiorising 8 months ago
@ariesscorpiorising
why is this picture sad??
soranemo 5 months ago
Valerie Solanas is Sarah Palin both are indebted to the castration ideation for their infamy.
malkooth 9 months ago
Two words for this: Ewwwwwww. Genius.
exididaniel 10 months ago
Sorry for the intromision but if you wanna said something you should said clearly. Don't talk about killing men 'cos it's a poor publicity for the real feminist who want to fight for their right and loves men too.
American13psycho 1 year ago
@American13psycho I deeply regret the general perception of the feminist movement, because it misunderstands it; I see your point. But Solanas is not to be held responsible for the public's shallow interpretation of her work. Maybe the reason she is so radical in her words is to provoke a reaction, any reaction.
exididaniel 10 months ago
@exididaniel Valerie was a very troubled woman. Just look at her biography.
Shadow850031 5 months ago
Valerie Solanas is a terrorist.
minamu8 1 year ago
@minamu8 first) she WAS a terrorist second) you are a terrorist. she was one of the most intelligent woman/human ever
hvitursnipur 1 year ago
@hvitursnipur Yeah, so someone who plots to kill all men is intelligent. Sure. And then, you get even more nonsensical by calling me a terrorist with no reasons to defend it. A terrorist is someone who attacks with fear and wants people to join them so the terrorist won't attack them anymore. That's kinda what Valerie did. She expressed hate towards men, and then a few men joined her and worked to eliminate other men. Sure, call me a terrorist. No one cares.
minamu8 1 year ago
@minamu8 well im not so very sure her aim was to 'kill all men' but to castrate them - we can interprate this as a symbolic castration - as a castration of privilages and so on which are available in our culture only for having-a-penis-persons. she wanted to eliminate the male sex - which should be taken as destroying a sex which receives all of the potentional privilages and profits. she just wanted to fight for justice - you can call it terrorism. we are so blind that we cant recognize t
hvitursnipur 1 year ago
@hvitursnipur 100% incorrect. She fought for justice? Yeah, right.
minamu8 1 year ago
@minamu8 whatever. she died finally - enjoy it.
i think you misunderstood her words. have you ever read SCUM? thats a kind of an art-manifesto, very significant for the feminism of the second wave, we dont have to take her words so seriously. she was a writer and a very poor woman who was touched very deeply by the system - thats why she decided to fight against it, fight for justice. if you dont get it - its your opinion, i dont have to agree with it, but i think you shouldTRYtounderstandHER
hvitursnipur 1 year ago
@hvitursnipur And I did read the SCUM Manifesto, thank you very much.
minamu8 1 year ago
@hvitursnipur Plus, you said she didn't want to kill all men. The following is from the SCUM Manifesto:
"SCUM will kill all men"
Did I make it clear for you?
minamu8 1 year ago
@minamu8 dear minamu, no, i cant agree with you, im really sorry :) one can not take her words literally - she wanted to kill all men - men:man in the meaning of a human that receives every of potential privilages in that kind of society that we cultivate. thats why she wanted to kill all men - not to murder them, but kill them as men, kill 'the masculinity' (=the acces to this better position in our patriarchal society), cut their penises off (penis in the meaning off a thing that gives one
hvitursnipur 1 year ago
@minamu8 a chance for a better/easier life). anyway, im sure she was able to realise that murdering every of men is not possible, thats why she used that kind of a subversive provocation to fight with penis as a symbol of power. its just a very motivating and inspirng piece of art-manifesto and it motivated and inspired lots of feminists (not only women-feminists). its up to the level of thinking that you use to try to think it through.
hvitursnipur 1 year ago
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@minamu8 the whole unjustice and when we meet women like valerie or sinead o'connor (who wrapped a photo of jpII) - we call them terrorists. i think that's very convenient - especially for the system...
hvitursnipur 1 year ago