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  • What I hate is that I've just spent 6 or 12 hours levelling up my characters, killing that giant tortoise and getting those berries so I can effectively kill the Garuda before entering the Tomb of Raithwall, the berries missed so I ended up killing it by repeatedly casting water on it anyway, only to find that in the frigging tomb there's another boss that's 3 times as hard, so I guess its another 6 hours of grinding to improve my characters.. the endless grind is starting to wear me down.

  • Restarted my game and I'm up to here again,

    For some reason, even though all my characters are 20+.... Vossler is still only Level 18? He won't level up for some reason.

    Any ideas whats up with him?

  • @PrimalConcreteSludge Guests dont level up or gain experience, they start at a level based on the level of your highest party member and do not level up. In this video, Vossler was added to the party when the highest level was somewhere around 30-ish.

  • did you get demonsbane after from that chest?

  • Vaan is the suckest main character ever! I hate him and I fucking dont understand how those Quick..thing works :/ always getting Time's UP

  • my guys are like 13 -_-

  • @Axeltrono lol same

  • this video has amazing quality..

  • i dont like vaan the only thing cool about him are the quickenings pyroclasm is really cool

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  • Dunno if i should attempt this (I am right in front of the tomb) , my characters are rather well leveled in the 20 regions (Except for Vaan, Vaan sucks), wish i could understand the quickening mechanics better, besides the reward is only a chest with some potentially good items.

  • wtf how are ur characters soooo high lvl, how you train them so high? mine are only level 13, the most i can do is take off 3/4 of his hp but then i don't have enough time and die. Explain how you got your characters sooo high level so early in the game.

  • @TrueWillz all you gotta do is run around and kill enemies...I leveled from 14 to 20 on the sand people outside of the temple at the refinery area for about 4 hours today (give or take some time, because I was also trying to kill the first demon wall a couple times). I found the Final fantasy Wiki and it said 3 or 4 chain quickenings should be enough, but I seem to have done 4 before and only took the wall down to 75% and then down to 25% with physical attacks (that was at level 18)

  • @MrDreuger Same stuff happened to me. I used a 9 chain quickening and its health only went down to 70%. Then I used a second quickening and chained 5 times and it went to 30%. It made no sense.

  • @TrueWillz Well it really depends. Some people chain dustias. I just unlocked monographs early and needed money for weapon and armor upgrades early game so i farmed simple stuff like skeletons in lhusu mines. with monograph (knight's I think) you can get better drops (and pebbles) and get some exp as well. Usually a half hour run can level every character once at least, with around 26,000 gil or more every time. (I stole off everything.)

  • why didn't you use berserk and stuff BEFORE you entered the fight?

    :D

  • theres a demon wall in FF4 too

  • @clubpenguinfeetfeet

    And FFVII

  • Its simple, berserk everyone except Ashe and Penelo, then reflect on everyone and just keep spamming Aero on your party and the Demon Wall will die very quickly. It helps to have accessories to make you immune to Blind/Sleep or a healthy supply of items.

  • lmao. you filmed your TV

  • my vaan is lv 30.hahaha

  • I beat this MF as level 20. Was very hard though; after about 10 tries or so. Spammed quickenings, let every char drink some whine that did the same thing as berserk (only that it is instant cast). I left one char without berserking though, my spellcaster. So she could heal status effects and HP with items; since they are instant cast too.

  • @Koraley89: Its simple, berserk everyone except Ashe and Penelo, then reflect on everyone and just keep spamming Aero on your party and the Demon Wall will die very quickly. It helps to have accessories to make you immune to Blind/Sleep or a healthy supply of items

  • uh do you even get something from that demonwall?

  • heh i love the description!

  • I can never beat him and my people are level 17+18. I dont have any good armor tho.

  • @chickens670 dude

    4 of my guys are higher than lvl 30 and i cant beat this mf.

  • Just beat him first time :D All of mine are Lv20 (except Basch, he's 19), I just figured out how to work Quickenings + they each know 2 (apart from Penelo who knows 1). Thought it would be impossible from the first time i played, but I got a 8 Combo first with Vaan, Ashe & Basch doing 13700 damage and a 7 Combo with the other 3 that finished him off.

    I am so proud of myself :)

  • First time game

    Lv. 18 before I enter the tomb okay?

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  • i am lvl 22,21,20,15,14,13 and 13 and my best quickening chain is 16 ¦ )

  • yeah me too xD

  • I better run back and level up a bit before this. Even though I already have Vaan and Fran at level 17 or something. But I need some stuff.... I still don't even have aero. Been looking for it for ages, kinda

  • lol I were lvl 14 with all my characters when i killedthis one haha don't you know the reflec, aero trick?

  • Don't you hate the fact that "Vaan" is the main character? He looks so stupid in the game. Generally I hate him.

  • hey, anything's better than Superfag... I mean TIdus in FFX. I... named him that in my game.

  • @Mant2core agreed

  • @Mant2core follow the story line, basch is the main character

  • @Mant2core I experienced him standing arround doing nothing, then I changed my gambit to attack first foe nearby and he became usable. ;)

  • what is supposed to be in the chest this makes available i got a damn holy mote:(

  • O_O Im level 16 and i almost beat him...use the spell Dark and youll have him dead no prob

  • k maybe i should use quicknings too...im lvl 22 trying to use the reflect + aero on self strategy. i can get him to like 20% health then i get owned against the wall sigh...

  • it did 6 level 18 chars all used all there quicks and owned it : )

  • im about 2 try this with level 18 chars but all of mine has 3 quicks each wish me luck ill say if it works : )

  • Why is Vossler Lv 34??? If I remember correctly, he should be around lv 20 or so at this point...

  • He's always higher level than the others. Therefor, my vossler is only at level 16, but when I leveled, he leveled aswell. WIthout gaining experience. That's how it is :3

  • Oh, I see! Must've forgotten about that. I got somehow mixed up with Larsa, if I remember correctly, when he tag along he doesn't level up.

  • Level 16 for me.

  • Dustia?? where? but can u tell em some other good EXP places??

  • so i can i do this with slightly lower level people but with way better equips right?

  • you have the same team i had on my first game, now im playing second runthrough but im evening lvls.

  • i did the 1st wall with level 14 characters.

  • how did you get so much HP there? i just started to play this game. and i am stuck here. i am level 16. my strongest character only has 733HP and deals 380-500 damage. only 1 character has quicken.

  • Go out and grind alot of lp and get every charcter a quickening and this boss can be taken out alot easier.

  • my r2 button dont work

    no quickinings for me

  • ur guys are lvl 30+ and u had to quickening him to death? my guys are lvl 22 all around and i took him to about 1/4 before i had to use a quickening.

  • My guys are only :

    Vaan - 13

    Balthier - 13

    Fran - 12

    Basch - 13

    Ashe - 13

    Penelo - 12

    Vossler - 16

  • Vossler can't be 16. He must be 19 ^^

  • I got vossler at 19, why?

  • Quickenings are hard on a PS3 controllern witht the stupid trigger function.

    Max chains I can get is 6. Any ideas?

  • i read i a walkthrough and it said quicknesing are key i just had to see if it was ture!

  • Demonsbane

  • did you get that special sword down there!?!?!?

  • How did you get your people's level so high! Mines so low.

  • I think he returned later in the game.

  • its all about speed

  • Lol its not hard i beat him just now with characters level 1 - 19 with a few chain quickenings and then took the second down in one chain

  • Yeah, the real challenge is to beat him without Quickenings.

  • u could press the brazairs or torches to stop him for a little bit

  • how to get the QUICKENING???that's really powerful....

  • lvl 31!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf my guys are only 19

  • ok wat the hell is a quicken im at that part the first time and i can't get passed the one through the door

  • Quickening is soooo easy........yea.... i used it 8 times at the same time!!! yah... ^.^

  • Can you come back and kill him later if you can't do it the first time?

  • man i never could finish him iam stuck here

  • i heard if you beat the first wall demon you get this demon sword, i was wondering if that was true?

  • Yes, but you must beat both walls. If you beat the first wall, you can no doubt beat the second. After you beat both walls, you can go back to where the first wall was and press the jewel. Then these paths will ascend and you just go through one of them (doesn't matter which as they are mirrored). Then you pass through the first hall, and go down the series of stairs. After which you'll be on this bridge, you can fight the enemies, or just rush through them. In the middle you should see a chest.

  • by that i mean, opening, saving, reloading, opening

  • I didn't have enough characters to finish adding one important thing. The chest either contains Gils, A Holy Mote, or the Demonsbane. It's random, so if you don't succeed in getting what you want the first time, reset the game and try again.(Don't forget to save when you beat the first wall!)

  • or reload after opening

  • Im lvl 13 or so on average and the wall wasn't 2 hard. Battle speed should b up and the wall wont go any faster.

    Whered u get beserk so early on.

  • If you fail to defeat the damon wall in time it will crush the party

  • i did it but first time fran had full hp by x crossing made her vanish and second time i got behinde other door then used qeuicknings hit 1111 on it my charcters are vaan:20 fran:20 basch:19 balither:13 penelo:18 ashe:19

  • What really gives me a bad case of WTF BBQ is the fact that Vossler is level 34!

    Guest NPC's have never leveled up for me.

  • guest npcs are based on some sort of average of YOUR charater lvls

  • wtf all my characters are in high 20's and my vossler is lvl 19

    :|

  • I believe the determining factor for Guest levels is Vaan's level at the time of the guest joining plus anywhere from 1 to 5 levels.

  • yeah wtf? my vossler is 19 and his is 34? that makes me mad? how u do that?

  • what do u do after 1st wall???? about the jewel??

  • what do u do after first boss plz answert quick i just did it

  • i had kotetsus and my characters were lvl 40

  • wdf my van was lvl 17 wen i got to this

  • what lvl is good on the wall around lvl 20?

  • i was around 21, just used 2 quickening combos

  • Nice combo. You really kicked his ass!

  • I beat him at highest level 14 with 5 quickenings (each about 5-chain) using ethers. I had double quickening on two characters.

  • am i just really really low lvl haveing my party as 2 lvl 18's aand a lvl 19? or is this dude just like amazingly high lvl?

  • our lvls are amazingly high. i guesshe trained lots at beginning on dustia like me

  • am i just really really low lvl haveing my party as 2 lvl 18's aand a lvl 19? or is this dude just like amazingly high lvl?

  • am i just really really low lvl haveing my party as 2 lvl 18's aand a lvl 19? or is this dude just like amazingly high lvl?

  • am i just really really low lvl haveing my party as 2 lvl 18's aand a lvl 19? or is this dude just like amazingly high lvl?

  • Nice job dude

  • My Vaan is level 11 in this you guys are freakin weak

  • ur weak

  • your gay and weak

  • Should i train some more? I'm at level 22, but i'm not sure if i have what it takes to beat that.

  • u need to giet a little higher like a lvl 25, then u neeed all of guys to get quicking, trust me quicking helps! :)

  • Yeah i know! Anyway, iv'e heard that ill face belias latter, what should i do about him? quickings too? Thanks for the tip :)

  • Don't worry mate, I beat it with a level 16 team, you'll be fine as long as you use lots of quickenings with all your characters, lol it felt too easy when I did it.

  • In that case i'm more relieved xD. thanks ^^

  • No problem!

  • nervewr womn from the 1 one so i never kild it lol

  • I'm having trouble at 20/20/20, with 2/1/0 quickenings, and one even has a kotetsu that I farmed from werewolves (50 ap). can't get the bastard lower than 30% before he squashes me to the wall. will try again tomorrow with some more exp and maybe a 2nd kotetsu if I'm that lucky

  • me to never get more than 3 a 6 things som,thims niothing

  • beat him a day after that comment. just cast reflect on all, make everyone have a gambit to cast aero/dark on themselves, and have as many quickenings as you can (use it before he does the first telega)

  • i fought this dude when i was like level 50, and going to bahamut x)

  • heyy!!! u cant level up guests!!!it said so!

  • heyyy ur an idiot guest are the same lvl as ur partys average lvl when u get him but ur right u cant lvl him up but if u get him when ur a high lvl ull be a high lvl i mean when i firast got ldy ashe i was already lvl 45 it was a waste of 3 weeks of training non stop but hey i accidwentally erased the file but oh well

  • heeey its in wait I did it in active and lv 17-18 =P. Spamming quickenings of course xD

  • how the hell did u get all of ur chars lvl 30 so early in the game?

  • its called grinding.

    he just killed mobs

  • Im lvl 23 at this part and i have only gotten 1 quickening. so it doesnt help, but in all acuallyity it isnt hard to train especally in the place your at, got from lvl 18 to 23 in like 2 hours. trying to accomplish this goal thanks for the video

  • really? i was lvl 18,15,17,19

  • my main party consists of vaan basch and fran all lvl 18 and i am currently doing all montblanc hunts and sandsea hunts in rabanastre to get gils , exp and quickenings ^^

  • well guys i think there is a useful hint that can be placed here for those who r in low level, the thing is u can get a thing called " Arcturus Gun " be4 u kill this bastard...u can youtube it so u can know how to get it...for me i killed this wall just by using mist attacks and i was on level 12 i guess...so just keep on tryin =D

  • OMFG WTF!!! i am at teh same place but i am lvl 20 O.o

  • God, I got the game Friday for my birthday, and Vaan's not even level 14 yet xp.

    I just hate how long it takes to train.

  • wtf is wit the insane lvls? and.. how do u get quickenings? xD im insane noob.

    (plz answer it in my channel)

  • Oh gahawd; your levels are so high...

    The highiest mine are on is 16 at this part. Still haven't beaten that damn wall. (btw, only got the game last week.)

  • Wtf! u got lvl 30's in your party? Lol , that's so weird..

  • oh I mean skeletons in the lhusa mines

  • dang you got a level 31 ashe??? :P ha I'm at the same place as you but all my characters are lvl 35!!! but dang it takes like hours to lvl all your charcters up.... eh I just kill lots of zombies in the lhusa mines and hav a big battle chain and lots of gil.. but nice job!!!

  • i had baltheir, basch, and vaan as my main party, each lvl 21 with all 3 quickenings. I got a 13 hit chain which did around 14000 damage, then berserked basch and went crazy. I had Iron Hammer for all 3 guys so the rest of his hp went down fast, didnt even have to cure :D

  • cuz the battle mode is set to active instead of wait...

  • beat it with 1 lvl 21 and 2 level 20's. The key is the quickening and then switch character and cast berserk on vaan then let the guy x kill the weak character then bring back your strong one.

  • !!!BIG TIP!!! turn battle speed to the max the wall moves the same speed but the battle goes quicker so you get more hits in on him.

  • ...my surroundings don't stop when I choose actions for my characters...yours did..why?

  • This boss absolutely slayed me x_x even with characters at level 24! D:

    I used all my quickenings, but that wasn't enough apparently, cause it only took off like half of his HP, and having no MP left and only like 1 ether, I was pretty screwed. I hadn't even remembered to get charge before that fight either xP

  • lol wtf, I am lvl 17 and defeated just the 2nd wall but the 1st one is harder....

  • well im level 22 and got hammered by him lol, how exactly do i do the quickenings ? i get 4 hits maximum ??? KEVSPR at YAHOO and thats co and uk cheers if anyone can help

  • my largest mist combo was 14 hits! i was very lucky but i screwed up de second combo then i lost to him.... :(

  • you can actualy do this battle at lvl 18 i've seen my bro do it. I was amazed!

  • Thanks for posting this, I'm gonna go try it. My people are all lvl 31, but I haven't been able to beat this thing yet. I know I could just run, but I have video game OCD. ^ ^

  • damm you must be a freak lvl 31 there geez i was like 22 out there and it did just fine

  • How do one get Quickenings with higher ranks than one?

  • when the quickenings come up how many times do u push x

    i keep messing up on it mine always says times up..

    can someone give me some advice

  • Man I need that sword

  • dam i dint get the fucking sword

  • your camera was a bit screwed up but your quickening combo(i think windburst) was pretty cool, although i think u were lucky with ashe's combo

  • does it matter if u ran or fight the wall?

    cause i ran......

  • well if you ran, you can always come back later and fight it. If you win against him, a secret passage open and you can get (with luck) Demonsbane, a good sword with 90 attack. My strategy to beat it, its like what he does at the beginning, i berserk my two most powerful warrior, so like Fran or anyone else with a lot of attack (berserk the 4th companion) and ATTACK ! lool, do some magic like water..if you have it. And most of it : good luck :)

  • lol so many quickening at the start

    dam i think im stuck cause my party's only like lvl 13-12

  • im screwed too im at 12 and 11.....but ur too powerful ragnarocv2!!!!!!!

  • im at level 13 but i can kill just second demon wall...

    how can i kill first wall

  • meow u get quickening on liscance board. i got mine at the ghis battle ( i saved up)

  • I think i'm screwed, almost my party is at level 12 :(

  • I dont get why people found this so hard. It wasnt EASY but i killed him at Level 18's etc. Was mainly just hitting it with me, I think i went into a quickenign chain for the latter half of his health, but my weapon was the first hammer from "Axes and Hammers 1" on License Board, IronHammer i think. Basch, Penelo and Ashe all on those wweapons + Round Shields + Battle Lore and Shield Block. Was easy, then i just used Penelo to remove status's as they came up.

  • I killed the first one with a large quickenign Chain, was LEvel 18 for my full party i think, I used predominantly Physical Attacks and went into a Quickenign Chain i think in the end. I had all characters with 3 Quickenings though as id got huge LP amounts.

  • what lv do u get quickenings?

  • it doesn't work like that, its just if you can purchase them with LP

  • KOTETSU AND BERSERKS works a treat!!!!

  • whenever i try to fight the first demon wall I have to run. Because I fight until he gets me to the door. I hope I win but he always cast Blind, Silecne and Sleeep... it sucks but I never used Quickenning I don't know why...

  • I used Oil and mostly Hierology to beat the first wall and that was a struggle. I had most of the magic licence board open and all characters were at least level 25 probably higher.

    If someone can kill this at a lower level I'd love to know how, because I was trying for hours even with quickenings - the 2nd wall is a lot easier.

  • i killed that when my characters were like 14lvl

  • Balthier is soo gay!

  • hey my levels are 12,11,12,13,11,11 and i beat both demon walls easily whitout zodiac spear or death bringer

  • I beat him with all level 18s apart frm vaan and penelo which was level 17 ^_^ just use lots of quickenings (ethers help aswell) and don't bother summoning as when i did vaan(who had the esper) just got telega cast on him :(

  • Congratulations is correct good quickening skills ^_^

  • ashe10 deafeted this demon wall on her level 1,2,2,3,3,3 file it possible ....it was incredible..i deafeted it solo after several tries of it teleing me

  • Yeh sure u cant be lvl 1,2,2,3,3,3 Cos 1 thing u get Bache at lvl 9 Ashe at lvl 11 and the other dudes lvl 6 so yeh stop chatting shit idiot

  • The characters join depending of your average level... there is no set level at join... so stop being rude =)

  • i can't kill him x.x i all out use water spells and dark spells on him x.x take out half his hp oh and activate the fire things slows him down or speeds him up

  • why do u have to kill him 1st time

  • lol... it is not impossible to beat him... you just have to be good at using quickening... not hard... not hard at all