Ultimate Truth of Scripture

[Gnomefro]

So, basically your view is that the bible is true, and insofar as anyone sees blatant errors in conflict with reality in it - they are interpreting it, and/or reality, wrong?

I really wonder how you could come to that conclusion rationally. Just take Islam for example, it also claims to have an inerrant book. How can you dismiss it, if you apply the same standard of evidence there?(i.e. if you disagree with it, you're mistaken)

Doesn't that make your method worthless?

[Bibletouchstone]

It is a rational conclusion to the axiom I hold given the evidence that there are many poor interpretations of the Bible. Gnomefro, you must also have some presumed axiom if you hold any belief. Thanks for your comment.

[gusb232]

I also have a problem hearing you voice. I still dont understand what you think is the hierarchical relationship between the bible and truth.

If there is something in the bible that seems false in ever manner we can think of , then the problem is with us not the bible?

If its by definition impossible for the bible to be wrong then how can we know it is true over other claims of exclusive revealed truth?

Couldnt I make that claim for Nostradamus or the books of gene Roddenberry?

[Bibletouchstone]

You said:

"Well all the civilisations that lived thru it without even knowing it happened for one. DNA also proves it did not happen to humans and animals."

Ok, the Bible says the flood destroyed them all, but a remnant. If there was a global flood, there would be none to tell but the Biblical account.

Also, how can DNA prove anything?

My comment about the big boat was a joke, btw.

Grace to you! Thanks for your comments!

[gorilla199uncensored]

Nice of you to NOT to use the reply so yiou can try and sneak you message thru!

Very dishonest!

"Ok, the Bible says the flood destroyed them all"

Yes but they where not destroyed the egyptians just to name one of many where not destroyed by a flood!

"Also, how can DNA prove anything? "

You know science that stuff scientits do, to stop you from starving to death and dying of disease etc.

So is the earth flat, geocentic and 6000 years old like the bibkle claims or is any of that wrong?

[Bibletouchstone]

gorilla199uncensored,

what has proven all those things wrong? I do not hold to a "flat earth":the Bible speaks of mountains. God is the center of the universe, not earth. Are you sure you didn't mean "geocentric"? So, you believe the cosmos is uncreated? How do you know? If there was no global flood, then why was there a big boat ride for animals?

[gorilla199uncensored]

" I do not hold to a "flat earth":the Bible speaks of mountains."

LOL thats so funny. Thats not what "god" is claiming in the bible.

Yes sorry the bible makes the false claim of geocentric.

"How do you know? If there was no global flood"

Well all the civilisations that lived thru it without even knowing it happened for one. DNA also proves it did not happen to humans and animals.

"then why was there a big boat ride for animals? "

There was not.

[gorilla199uncensored]

yes bible is full of truth, flat earth, centre of universe, heliocentric sun, creation, global food, big boat ride for animals.

Oh hang on since has proven them all wrong, so what other lies.mistakes are their? I wont mention contradictions and hypocrisey.

[Bibletouchstone]

Yes, the Bible is full of truth: a flat earth, the center of universe, a heliocentric sun, a creation, a global food, a big boat ride for animals. Oh hang on, that has proven all wrong! sSo what other lies or mistakes are there? I won't even mention all its contradictions and hypocrisies.

[gorilla199uncensored]

"Yes, the Bible is full of truth"

Except for all the things I mentioned. Thats just for starters.

So you think the bible is gods divine teachings and should be followed?

[ktorch]

Will you please STOP and take a breath?

[FearsEdge]

You are talking too fast and it is too quiet, but I am trying to decipher it.