@dryousuck It is their in reality their only choice. Why did East Germans risk their lives to escape into the west? They could try to cross the border legally but many went over the wall in very novel but risky ways.
To go onto a plane you need a passport, board on a plane through an airport, pay any tax that may be applicable, all controlled by their government - the people they are trying to escape. Do you seriously belive their government would let them go?
@dryousuck So everything you say is right and I am wrong on everything. Just answer me this. If you were in their shoes what would you do? Come on be honest. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
@dryousuck Hey you started the self righteous bit back with your "illegal immigrant" jibe, etc.. What you are upset about is that you and others are willing to point the finger at boat people but in the same situation you would do exactly the same. It was someone very famous who said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
@dryousuck (cont) Thus Australia was obliged to rescue Tony Bullimore in 1996 and thus Australia has an obligation under UNHCR law to give legal status to any refugee that comes into our territtory. That is why Howard tried to extradite Christmas Island etc. Australia must take the responsibilities and not just the priviledges.
@dryousuck Nothing to do with their law or our law but international law and as found in the Franklin River judgement 1983, Australia's International Obligations overide other laws when there is a conflict between the laws.
@dryousuck And you repeat your bad spelling that makes it hard to understand without answering the question. What law have those fleeing their wartorn nation have broken to make them "illegal immigrants" Congratulaltions on showing your stupidity (uber r tardation????)
@dryousuck I repeat it is NOT illegal to approach a government to seek assulum. It is not illegal to flee danger, and you say I am retarded. Go and sit in your bunker with that attitude (concernedaustralian? what One Nation? LOL) YOU are WRONG. Yes they csn lie but it has been found that the mainly don't. Unlike John Howrd's Children overboard or WMD's (Who lacks credibility now)
@dryousuck Over 90% of those off the Tampa were found immediately to be legitimate refugees under UNHCR rules. Rules Australia signed and agreed to. Stop the banner headlines that are close to the tactics Josef Goebbels used against the Jews. It is not against the law to flee your country if you have a genuine fear for your well being. What should I read "the irrefutable evidence that Iraq had WMDs? LOL.
What a load of crap banner headlines that scare people. You don't know much about international law. For starters Asylum Seekers cannot be illegal. Your description of over 100 illegal boats is therefore wrong. Get your facts straight.
@dryousuck no just someone who cares for human rights for all.
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck It is their in reality their only choice. Why did East Germans risk their lives to escape into the west? They could try to cross the border legally but many went over the wall in very novel but risky ways.
To go onto a plane you need a passport, board on a plane through an airport, pay any tax that may be applicable, all controlled by their government - the people they are trying to escape. Do you seriously belive their government would let them go?
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck So everything you say is right and I am wrong on everything. Just answer me this. If you were in their shoes what would you do? Come on be honest. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck Well I find it hard to argue to someone who has the empathy of a mosquito in a hot humid tent.
millertas 1 year ago
Fucking Liberal scum...
lumpacharcoal 1 year ago
@dryousuck Hey you started the self righteous bit back with your "illegal immigrant" jibe, etc.. What you are upset about is that you and others are willing to point the finger at boat people but in the same situation you would do exactly the same. It was someone very famous who said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck You would not know the truth if it hit you in the face.
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck (cont) Thus Australia was obliged to rescue Tony Bullimore in 1996 and thus Australia has an obligation under UNHCR law to give legal status to any refugee that comes into our territtory. That is why Howard tried to extradite Christmas Island etc. Australia must take the responsibilities and not just the priviledges.
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck Nothing to do with their law or our law but international law and as found in the Franklin River judgement 1983, Australia's International Obligations overide other laws when there is a conflict between the laws.
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck you still haven't told me what law those fleeing war and persecution have broken.
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck And you repeat your bad spelling that makes it hard to understand without answering the question. What law have those fleeing their wartorn nation have broken to make them "illegal immigrants" Congratulaltions on showing your stupidity (uber r tardation????)
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck I repeat it is NOT illegal to approach a government to seek assulum. It is not illegal to flee danger, and you say I am retarded. Go and sit in your bunker with that attitude (concernedaustralian? what One Nation? LOL) YOU are WRONG. Yes they csn lie but it has been found that the mainly don't. Unlike John Howrd's Children overboard or WMD's (Who lacks credibility now)
millertas 1 year ago
@dryousuck Over 90% of those off the Tampa were found immediately to be legitimate refugees under UNHCR rules. Rules Australia signed and agreed to. Stop the banner headlines that are close to the tactics Josef Goebbels used against the Jews. It is not against the law to flee your country if you have a genuine fear for your well being. What should I read "the irrefutable evidence that Iraq had WMDs? LOL.
millertas 1 year ago
What a load of crap banner headlines that scare people. You don't know much about international law. For starters Asylum Seekers cannot be illegal. Your description of over 100 illegal boats is therefore wrong. Get your facts straight.
millertas 1 year ago