The 2009 Freestyle World Cup Final (120kg) Ali Isayev - Masoumi Fardin

[Dosiyev]

MOLLA fuckers



[BakuHH]

hahahahha AZERILERsiktiler FARSLARIIIII hahahahhah



[Tural103]

нихуя там народу)) как на футбольном матче

[khingratsaphone]

that fool almost got pinned!

[ayulduz]

zende bad Azarbayijane junubi va shomali , Yashasin Azerbayican canim qurban Azerbaycan sene Ehsh olsun cox yashaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[jefri82]

And the last thing, since non of Azeris of the Republic of Azerbaijan perceive themselves as Iranians or Persians but as a separate entity, what is the point of calling them Iranians or Persians? The more you call them like that, the more Azeris will turn away from Iran and its cultural influence.

[daz45]

@jefri82 No matter what they percieve themselves to be they can't hide from their ancestry. Ultimately they have learned their trade from their ancestry and their ancestry is persian, they are persians.

[jefri82]

And Iranian rule in Azerbaijan in different times neither justifies any territorial claims by Iranian government or Iranians. In fact talks about "Greater Iran" constitute a threat to the sovereignty of these States, which b.t.w. were recognized in their current borders by the whole world community including Iranian State, and therefore these territorial claims are in fact a violation of the international law, especially of the UN Charter.

[jefri82]

Iran itself was an Empire like British and Russian, so it is a natural process that Azeris like other colonies int the world acquired their sovereignty which they are not going to give up any more.

[jefri82]

2. Alone the fact that Persians had in different periods of time executed the control of the territory of modern Azerbaijan Republic as well as Turkmenistan, Iraq and Afganistan doesn't lead to a conclusion that Azeris are per se "Iranians". British Empire also had for centuries controlled India, but it doesn't mean that Indians are British!

[jefri82]

Saying that somebody has an "iIranian blood" is a sign of a very primitive thinking or a lack of a basic education. Since Iranian is just a name of a citizen of IRI, who can belong to any ethnical group (technically speaking even Chinese or Germans who posess Iranian passports can relate to that definition), it is absolutely wrong to say that "his blood is Iranian" because he is Azeri. There is no such thing as "Iranian blood".

[lovelas265]

It was just allusion from his side that we are free from you and even morally we are stronger than you so that could win you in front of Ahmadi Nejad.

[samanmm]

both shoulders have to hit the mat in order to get a pin, you can clearly see the yellow of the mat under his right shoulder, therefore it has not hit the mat ---> no pin

[KTK401]

Straight up pin at 1.14!

[CasPioneer]

Azerbaijan!!!

[asker3456]

xALALDI

[jumpoff411]

Masoumi won the first period 1-0, Isayev won the second 4-1, Isayev won the third period even though the score was tied (the person to score last wins the round in case of a tie)

[ulykpain]

no when its a tie they add up all your scores from every match to see who got the most overall point and thats how its decided but iran should have won because ali pinned the guy but they never counted it

[XtratimeAze]

actually Ali is from Azerbaijan, but you are right, they should have counted the pinning

[wrestle4life234]

jumpoff411 is correct, but it was a pin. They never add up overall points.

[ulykpain]

they actualy do in that situation look at the vedio and youll understand i can't be botherd to explain why look and youl understand

[realpress]

can some one explain how the guy won??

[lovelas265]

cuz he is azeri not iranian.))))long live Azerbaijan!

[Hesam0000]

Azaris are Iranian dumbass :)

Azarbaijan has always been part of Iran.

If it wasn't for the stupid Turkmanchay Treaty of 1828 Russia couldn't have stolen Northern azarbaijan from Iran.

[lovelas265]

Shut the fuck up.We always sought for freedom and finally we got it.You can see in the video how our wrestler points to the whole audience when he wins.

[Hesam0000]

lovelas265,

Retard,

You got nothing. Russia stole the land of North Azarbaijan from Iran then Russia's dismantled communism dismantled the country into pieces. Azarbaijan is & will always be part of Iran. Both my grandfathers were full-fledged Azaris & I'm a proud Iranian.

Iran doesn't belong to just one race,it belongs to all.Azarbaijan without Iran becomes a great target.

The wrestler pointing to the crowd means "See I won from the one you supported",it has nothing to do with nationality.

[lovelas265]

You do not want to see the reality,mate!Azerbaijan never was a part of Iran.We are different than.Everything is totally differen:our music,culture,behaviour.North azerbaijanis are descendants of Caucasian Albania and south azerbaijanis are descendants of Media,whereas persians are descendants of Persia.We are not you!Remember it!

[Hesam0000]

Your historical knowledge sucks.

Descendents of Albanians?? You must be joking!

when Azarbaijan was created as part of Persia there was no such country as Albania. Persians are descendants of Persia?! wrong again. The so called "Persians" are a mixed blood race, a combination of Aryan, Parthean and Mede tribes. Azari language and music are as different from Persian as Lori, Kurdi, Bandari, Baluchi and all other different ethnicities in Iran are.

I agree with 1 thing you wrote:

You're not us.

[lovelas265]

My historical knowledge sucks as you do it normally,ok?In the territory of Azerbaijan never lived persians,for this reason we have always been different from you.We are not you and we will defend our integrity from such fanatic fucking mad mulas like you and your narcomaniac Ahmadi Nejad.Your Iran is not a country-it is a bullshit!Soon South Azerbaijan will be free from Iran as well.Relax now.......

[Hesam0000]

lovelas265,

shutup boy

Iran is not ahmadinejad.

Never lived persians!

Where the hell you think azaris are from? Switzerland? They're mixture of Persians, medes, aryans and smaller mix of roman, ottoman, macedonian and russian.

[lovelas265]

I don`t give a shit whatever you think in your fanatic maniacal head and even what you say because you do not have any knowledge in history and just keep talking like a dilettante.You just try to ascribe all the nations and nationalities aroud you to persians while not proving with any needed fact.Your job is just barking at other people acusing everyone not being an iranian or persian.We have nothing similiar with you.Different people,different music,traditions and different cuisine.

[Hesam0000]

Are you still talking?

I didn't say "Persian" as in Parthean race dumbass, I said Iranian (from the nation of previously-named-Persia) as in "greater Iran that got occupied by Russia and separated by force then handed to others."

Go read a book.

[lovelas265]

You are seem so funny for me.Everybody in the World is laughing at you and fanatic mullas,calling you dumbass and now you try to make a joke.When Russia occupied Azerbaijan in 1828,none of 9 Khanates of Azerbaijan were in compund of Iran,though Agha Mohammed Khan Gajar tried several times to occupy this Khanates.Finally he was murdered in Karabagh Khanate in Shusha.Though this trator Gajar was turk and spoke in turkic he never called himself turc always wanted to invade Azerbaijan.

[Hesam0000]

Read the history again.

I hate the mullahs.

And the dummies ;)

All of azarbaijan belonged to Iran, plus Georgia, Armenia and some more. Russian forces attacked, occupied that land and threatened to attack Tehran if Persia didn't sign the treaty.

And the stupid Qajars signed it to save their own kingdom and nice life in Persia's expense.

[lovelas265]

If you hate dummies and mullas,then you hate about 90% of Iran.I have read the history carefully.B.t.w , and you know what I`ve found out?I`ve found out that you like your Nazi fanatic mullahs have got serious mental problems.Go to the doctor and check it.Neither georgians nor armenians and even azeris are iranians.

[Hesam0000]

lovelas265,

You're a feathered donkey.

I'm done talking to you. Byebye

[kkvh7543]

Watch your mouth persian idiot!

[Hesam0000]

Kiss my Persian ass.

[GBDazzler]

@lovelas265 what are you talking about 90% of iran are not mullahs, mullahs grew in popularity when the revolution happened because some scumbags and perverts knew they could reap the benefits of being a mullah, 90% of Iran hate the reigime and the mullahs, and armenians, ossetians, and especially azeris are iranians and descendants of iran(Land of Aryans).

[lovelas265]

@GBDazzler Learn the histiory properly.Armenians are not the descendants of Iran even their language has nothing to do with iranian as it is not even considered to be a part of indo-iranian language group of big indo-european language family.As a fact they are the descendants of greek-speaking thracians phrigians and mushkins who move at the end of bronze and beginning of iron age from the North-East of Balkan peninsula to Anatolia and further down to Persia and and South Caucasus regions.

[GBDazzler]

@lovelas265 Bwahahaha where did you get this from? What utter nonsense, your facts are all wrong i think you should go read more and do your research properly and be sure to take of your anti persian tinted glasses before you read up.

[lovelas265]

@GBDazzler Common buddy,my last comment was not antipersian at all.I think,you did not understand me.I was writing about armenians not iranians and wanted to make you sure that your beloved armenians do not have nothing to do with iranian history or iranian language or iranian etnicity.

[AdamBeing]

Let me clarify one thing. Azeris who live in Iran are Iranian nationals by virtue of their nationality (i.e., citizenship). Ethnically, Iran is a diverse country.

Now let me go further. It is of no dispute that the Northern Azerbaijan was conquered by the Russian Empire in the early 1800s, but it is neither of no matter to the current discussion here. Here, an Azeri national defeated an Iranian national - therefore, under no definition he is Iranian.

[Hesam0000]

That's what I said. But

the azaris who now are Azarbaijan nationals were also Iranian nationals until 1828, so you can ignore 2500+ years of Persia/Iran nationality and stick to 170 years of occupied Russian & 18 years of Azarbaijani nationality & say Azarbaijani won, but to me an Azari(from N.Azarbaijan) won from another Azari(from Masal southeast of azarbaijan), who are both Iranian.

If you want to get really technical Isayef is not azarbaijani since when he was born, azarbaijan was USSR!

[AdamBeing]

In fact, your personal perception is irrelevant. The USSR ceased its existence in 1991 and was replaced by the CIS. Since then, Azerbaijan has been an independent country and those who at that time accepted themselves as Azeri nationals acquired Azerbaijani citizenship. Presumably, Isayev was amongst them. Therefore, even speaking "technically", Isayev is an Azeri national.

Also, I do respect and acknowledge my past, but have no intention to get stuck in it.

[Hesam0000]

OKOK, Azarbaijan won this one and Iran is the world wrestling leader, if separation makes you happy here you go, made your day.

To me, as someone whose both grandparents were azari, I consider Iran, Kurdestan, Azarbaijan, Iraq, Tajikestan, Turmanestan, Afghanistan and Kashmir, ALL as The Greater Iran. A country with great diversity and the oldest civilization on Earth.

And I will remain stuck in it.

[AdamBeing]

Well, what you consider is something I little care about and would hardly bother to intervene into. Especially considering that you call the so-called Greater Iran "a country", I presume there is little we can discuss. Admittedly, we are separated by our perception of the world - mine starts from the reality and yours from the myth.

[Hesam0000]

Yes we are separated. One of us takes what they force on him with excitement, the other resists separation or demands return of unity.

If everyone thought "reality" like you, the Palestinians would've given up their lands to Israel's "reality" & Iran would divide the rest of country into Kurdestan, Baluchestan, Khorasan, Khuzestan "realities".

[AdamBeing]

Excitement? That's quite an interesting description of my tone, to be honest.

I wish you success in your "demands", although they are more mythic than anything else.

[Hesam0000]

The man's name is Isayev, a russian name, he was born in Azarbaijan region of occupied Iran. Occupied by Soviets through forced "Turkmenchay Treaty" during incompetent Qajar kingdom of Persia.

You can call him Russian, Azaribaijani, Mede, or whatever his current or future citizenship may be but test his genes and you'll get a match with the people of northern Iran. That's my point. The best wrestlers came basically from 1 region, the farmlands/towns by the southern half of Caspian Lake.

[AdamBeing]

Third, people in the Northern Iran are mostly Azeris and you do not discover America by stating that Ali Isayev shares the same genes with people of the Northern Iran (I am partially Tabrizian).

[Hesam0000]

That was my point. That no matter what his current citizenship is, his blood is Iranian blood. Contrary to what most people think Iran is not just Persians, majority of Iranians are none Persians, mostly medes and Aryans. Only southern half of Iran from Jiroft to shiraz to khuzestan were settled by the first Persians. My grand parents were from Ardebil & Astara, both Azari. I was born in Tehran.

If you don't know Masoumi and Isayev and look at them it's hard to tell which is Irani which is not.

[lovelas265]

You are just a twofaced man.You do not have anything related to azeris or Azerbaijan.I told as well that one of the ancestors of azeris are medes.But according to The History of Herodotus medes and persians were different people and even had long-lasting wars.If it is true that your gandparents were azeris,shame on you then.You are just a disgrace for all azeris.And your persian wrestler Masoumi is more tanned than Isayev.That is the difference.

[Hesam0000]

By points. They get 1 or 2 points everytime they throw the other on the ground.