GREAT VIDEO!!! Especially @1:52. Anyone know where to find to rest of that flight? Love to see F18's Performing on there MAX. BADASS High angel of attack.
Congratulations to the RAAF on purchasing block obsolecense.
Considering this aircraft will be going up against late model Flankers and now the PAK FA its already been consigned to tactical and strategic irrelevance, yesterdays aircraft and another great aquisition by the DoD.
@ColdWarWarriors It still comes to down to how well the pilots are trained. In Australia our failure rates for success for graduation is high so we get the pbest of the best in the air flying the FA18. :)
@PilotAce74 No it doesn't, various studies will give you an idea of how we in the 'West' consider our pilots to be 'well trained', however, war games against 'inferior' pilots continually show this to be a misnomer.
@ColdWarWarriors@ColdWarWarriors It still comes to down to how well the pilots are trained. In Australia our failure rates for success for graduation is high so we get the best of the best in the air flying the FA18. Russia does struggle to pay their pilots well for what they do. :)
If somebody applies to Direct Entry on the Air force with a pilot license, flight hours, and around 22-23 years old. Those conditions would represent an advantage or a disadvantage for him?
@krloz57781 depends really. sometimes it helps to have flying experience sometimes it doesnt. each case is assessed individually. your age would be a bonus as you would have more life experience than a 17 year old applying but your not too old and 'set in your ways'. you having flying hours would help to show your committed to being a pilot so an advantage in that sense but if you show too many bad civilian flying habits then it becomes a disadvantage. hope that helps.
Hmm so you decided on the superhornet above the F22 Raptor. No regrets? Ah well, I suppose its ok considering the fact that the US Pacific Command have a sqd wing of F22 Raptors based on Anderson USAF Base, in Guam. So it is well within striking distance anywhere in the SE Asian region. This can augment the Superhornet sqdrns now in operation prior to the 2014 JSF35 sqds arrival.
they won't be getting f-22 s because they are too expensive and not suitable for the missions there sent for, the f-35 is what they are getting for the future because they are cost effective and more developed for the tasks ahead of them
LOL.....no other country has purchased the superbug but australia...i wonder why...now the usmc and navy are going to f35....i wonder why....your kidding yourself if you think the f18 should be the prime a2a platform for the defence of a nation
You know this is only interim until the f35 is up and running.. we have 100 f35's on order this is just to bridge the gap between retirement of the f-111 and delivery of the f35
1. Super bugs are specialized navy fighters, tailored specifically for super carrier operations. That is why very few country has any interest in it.
2. USMC and Navy are going for F-35 for the reason that F-35 is designed to Replace them.
3. F-18s are good enough for an Air superiority platform for smaller nations, as they rival the current alternatives, such as Rafale, Typhoon, Su-30, and Mig-35, while completely surpassing aircraft such as JF-17, J-10, Su-27, Mig-29, and Jas-39.
f35a on paper appears to be an excellent platform (whoever stated that it is not equipped to do a2a is dreaming) by 2030 you will see 6x amraam in the belly until then 4 is enough....or you could ad pllons like f18 and carry many
They are working on developing stealth pylons for F-22 and maybe F-35 so they can carry external weapons / fuel and still maintain the same stealthiness but with a much better payload/range with less maneuverability.
BTW, F-35 does have 6 external pylons.
F-35 is goign to be crazy I dont care what anyone says it will have most advanced avionics and weapon systems when it comes and maneuverability is a last thought since with say AIM-9x + JHMCS there is 360 degree off boresight engagements
Blackrob2002: Note, these 'stealthy pylons' (which I found quite dubious) are designed to accommodate ASRAAMs, from what I've read. The SR in the title standing for Short Range (the missile is replacing the Sidewinder).
In comparison to the AMRAAM's 48km range, I believe we're losing out here (but it's not like we have any other viable options, unfortunately). I thought the idea with stealth was that we wouldn't have to close to 18km's to get a shot in...
OMG people....."hornet country"....this guy is towing the line and after promotion...disregard all he says....the bug and the superbug are built to operate from carriers thus air to air is compromised from the start....how many bugs does the usaf own?...nil..$6bil wasted on an aircraft that is built to operate from carriers and is a far cry from the tomcat....ok excellent avionics, but with 404's it it underpowered...rcs is huge compared to f35 (which is larger for export birds anyway)...
john howard was the pm. he knows what he is talking about too. the babies are still being thrown overboard.....u must remember the gov workers must tow the gov line not have their own point of view....we do training every year drumming that into us
I noticed that some people are upset a bit that you lads, downunder are purchasing a number of u.s. arms, etc , etc,, like the new tanks , the new planes, & others. europeans are not to help regarding the aussie and usa growing relationship - to bad!!!.
The F-111 has done an excellent job as a regional strategic deterrent over the last 30 years. The fact that we havn't had to use it in "real" operations is wholey due to the fact we have the most capable and highly trained aircrew in the region. Regardless of the platform.
On the other hand, the F-111 lacks even the most rudimentary avionics suite as compared to modern airframes. Tell me, when did we ever make use of the F-111's payload or range? Or its virtually non-existant AA capability? In fact, give me one example of the F-111 being used in a real operation? Why would we instead use the F/A-18A as our 'bombtruck' in Iraq if there was no need for air superiority and the F-111 is supposedly so good? They haven't been a viable platform for a long time.
@dxhumph I'll give it that, and for its day it certainly was a fantastic jet.
@ColdWarWarriors There is some truth to what you say on a platform v platform basis, however the Pak-Fa won't be in production until late this decade, FOC who knows when? At the end of the day, the Super Hornets (some of which may become our Growlers), the F-35, and Wedgetail AW&CS adds up to a cutting edge networked air force. The upshot of this is that our planes are more effective in practice than on paper.
@hdmccart I will PM you the merits of the F-35 in the context of its current and projected contemporaries when I get the chance this week, it will be too lengthy for a youtube video comment. In the meantime, speed, roll rate, g-limits, turn radius, stealth .ect - yes they are necessary and were all-important in previous generations, but are far from being the make or break for this fighter.
@hdmccart Cant turn? Sustained and instantaneous turn rates as good or better than an F-16 means it cant turn? What have you been smoking? Cant run? greater than a 1:1 T/W ratio on 50% fuel means it cant run? What have you been smoking? Cant hide? All aspect X band LO and LPI sensors and comms means cant hide? What have you been smoking? Dont believe every Kopp you read.
@hdmccart Cross band? I said X band as in X the letter, you know, comes after W? Its the band virtually all FCR's use. And yes the F-35 is designed around an all aspect LO concept, hit the LM website if you want a reference.
You've just lost all credibility. Now you're resorting to semantics. Pointing out the order of the alphabet. Referencing the LM site to support an LM product (that is farcical). But most of all stating in a previous post "Dont believe every Kopp you read"...I'm assuming you're familiar with his CV? Maybe you are privy to some intelligence source that could enlighten us as to Kopps, et al, failings in analysis?
@hdmccart I've lost all credibility? You dont know what X band is an I've lost credibility? Of course why would you ask the people who make the F-35 as to its design paradigm? Of course you wouldnt ask CCA if Coke is in fact a cola. Mate you're a joke. Kopp is a joke because his arguments are ESAILY dissected for the absolute crap that they are, all specious crud built on flimsy assumptions. I have seen his CV, he's a mobile phone engineer IIRC. And AFAIK he has no security clearance level.
@anurism1 Good site - give you that...I hope your man is right in his analysis both of the super and the 35, as a fellow AUS i consider it a little important! Gotta say though that I would not be surprised if the 35 was axed with its good gear cannibalized and inserted into the 22 (with a resumption of the line of course)...difficult yes, i know..
First off, F-35 >>> Su-35 by a long shot. You don't even know. Don't even bother comparing 'dogfighting' capabilities, it doesn't matter. F-35 will reinvent the way air combat is fought. It could fire an AIM-9x Sidewinder at a plane directly behind it. BVR combat, F-35 wins again with it's stealthy design and superior avionics.
Su-35 might > F/A-18, too bad there's only been 12 built, and none are for sale for export.
Great choice of aircraft by the RAAF, it's a pity it's only to fill a gap and not for a continued role in maintaining Australia's defense.
Yeah I, like most, will be sorry to see the mighty F-111 leave our skies forever but at least it is, in the interim, being super seated by a worthy aircraft.
Also, congratulations Mr. Roberton on your promotion!! When last we met you we're 75 SQN's C.O. "Wing Commander" Roberton, so again congratulations Sir.
it's anoyying we are getting rid of them when we get the JSF, illd prefer 100 E/F models than the JSF, if the JSF gets in to a god fight with a good aircraft it's gone in my opinion
Great move RAAF - get out there and promote this aircraft and yourselves. Nice. Wear your 'Super Dog' tag given by AVM Peter Criss (rtd) with pride. 'SupaDoggies' are GO!
what was the superhornet oponent when australia finaly bought it ?
bingofioul 5 months ago
Right, so it's a great COIN platform...and fuck all else...
hdmccart 1 year ago
GREAT VIDEO!!! Especially @1:52. Anyone know where to find to rest of that flight? Love to see F18's Performing on there MAX. BADASS High angel of attack.
Sizomu 1 year ago
greetings from pakistan...RAAF.gogogo
Sparkk011 1 year ago
Congratulations to the RAAF on purchasing block obsolecense.
Considering this aircraft will be going up against late model Flankers and now the PAK FA its already been consigned to tactical and strategic irrelevance, yesterdays aircraft and another great aquisition by the DoD.
ColdWarWarriors 1 year ago
@ColdWarWarriors It still comes to down to how well the pilots are trained. In Australia our failure rates for success for graduation is high so we get the pbest of the best in the air flying the FA18. :)
PilotAce74 1 year ago
@PilotAce74 No it doesn't, various studies will give you an idea of how we in the 'West' consider our pilots to be 'well trained', however, war games against 'inferior' pilots continually show this to be a misnomer.
hdmccart 1 year ago
@ColdWarWarriors @ColdWarWarriors It still comes to down to how well the pilots are trained. In Australia our failure rates for success for graduation is high so we get the best of the best in the air flying the FA18. Russia does struggle to pay their pilots well for what they do. :)
PilotAce74 1 year ago
@ColdWarWarriors Thank God, finally some sanity here!
hdmccart 1 year ago
I think that there may have been a JIO discretionary decisionmaking process which would impinge upon the J22 being denied to the RAAF!
timtufuga 1 year ago
If somebody applies to Direct Entry on the Air force with a pilot license, flight hours, and around 22-23 years old. Those conditions would represent an advantage or a disadvantage for him?
krloz57781 1 year ago
@krloz57781 depends really. sometimes it helps to have flying experience sometimes it doesnt. each case is assessed individually. your age would be a bonus as you would have more life experience than a 17 year old applying but your not too old and 'set in your ways'. you having flying hours would help to show your committed to being a pilot so an advantage in that sense but if you show too many bad civilian flying habits then it becomes a disadvantage. hope that helps.
paddy217125 1 year ago
Hmm so you decided on the superhornet above the F22 Raptor. No regrets? Ah well, I suppose its ok considering the fact that the US Pacific Command have a sqd wing of F22 Raptors based on Anderson USAF Base, in Guam. So it is well within striking distance anywhere in the SE Asian region. This can augment the Superhornet sqdrns now in operation prior to the 2014 JSF35 sqds arrival.
timtufuga 1 year ago
The f22 raptor is not available for purchase. So its not a matter of choice when it comes to the raptor. The US is refusing to sell them to anyone.
slickstrings 1 year ago
Was that a cobra at 1:52?? Cuz that's a pretty impressive maneuver for an aircraft with no thrust vectoring.
SuperHornetsVFA41 2 years ago
Personally this aircraft wont have a chance with a Su-30.
NikolaAU 2 years ago
Really, wonder what the US navy would say about that lol. NOOB!
22hellman22 2 years ago
the f-35s will replace the old f-111s
shmeddy01 2 years ago
they won't be getting f-22 s because they are too expensive and not suitable for the missions there sent for, the f-35 is what they are getting for the future because they are cost effective and more developed for the tasks ahead of them
shmeddy01 2 years ago
LOL.....no other country has purchased the superbug but australia...i wonder why...now the usmc and navy are going to f35....i wonder why....your kidding yourself if you think the f18 should be the prime a2a platform for the defence of a nation
beepa007 2 years ago
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0Strykes0 2 years ago
@beepa007 Yeah, it seems pretty sad. They talk about the plane as if its "next generation" but its been in use since the last generation of pilots.
DaAvi8a 2 years ago
You know this is only interim until the f35 is up and running.. we have 100 f35's on order this is just to bridge the gap between retirement of the f-111 and delivery of the f35
danfitz2483 2 years ago
1. Super bugs are specialized navy fighters, tailored specifically for super carrier operations. That is why very few country has any interest in it.
2. USMC and Navy are going for F-35 for the reason that F-35 is designed to Replace them.
3. F-18s are good enough for an Air superiority platform for smaller nations, as they rival the current alternatives, such as Rafale, Typhoon, Su-30, and Mig-35, while completely surpassing aircraft such as JF-17, J-10, Su-27, Mig-29, and Jas-39.
cr9527 2 years ago
f35a on paper appears to be an excellent platform (whoever stated that it is not equipped to do a2a is dreaming) by 2030 you will see 6x amraam in the belly until then 4 is enough....or you could ad pllons like f18 and carry many
beepa007 2 years ago
They are working on developing stealth pylons for F-22 and maybe F-35 so they can carry external weapons / fuel and still maintain the same stealthiness but with a much better payload/range with less maneuverability.
BTW, F-35 does have 6 external pylons.
F-35 is goign to be crazy I dont care what anyone says it will have most advanced avionics and weapon systems when it comes and maneuverability is a last thought since with say AIM-9x + JHMCS there is 360 degree off boresight engagements
blackrob2002 2 years ago
Blackrob2002: Note, these 'stealthy pylons' (which I found quite dubious) are designed to accommodate ASRAAMs, from what I've read. The SR in the title standing for Short Range (the missile is replacing the Sidewinder).
In comparison to the AMRAAM's 48km range, I believe we're losing out here (but it's not like we have any other viable options, unfortunately). I thought the idea with stealth was that we wouldn't have to close to 18km's to get a shot in...
Beautiful looking bird, nonetheless.
Slasherzza 2 years ago
OMG people....."hornet country"....this guy is towing the line and after promotion...disregard all he says....the bug and the superbug are built to operate from carriers thus air to air is compromised from the start....how many bugs does the usaf own?...nil..$6bil wasted on an aircraft that is built to operate from carriers and is a far cry from the tomcat....ok excellent avionics, but with 404's it it underpowered...rcs is huge compared to f35 (which is larger for export birds anyway)...
beepa007 2 years ago
man you have no idea... us navy is the best u muppet
22hellman22 2 years ago
this "guy" used the be the wing commander for the 75th squadron at tindal, flying the f/a-18. he knows what hes talking about.
ceskazbrojovka17HMR 2 years ago
john howard was the pm. he knows what he is talking about too. the babies are still being thrown overboard.....u must remember the gov workers must tow the gov line not have their own point of view....we do training every year drumming that into us
beepa007 2 years ago
I noticed that some people are upset a bit that you lads, downunder are purchasing a number of u.s. arms, etc , etc,, like the new tanks , the new planes, & others. europeans are not to help regarding the aussie and usa growing relationship - to bad!!!.
MrJeffreydunson 2 years ago
The F-111 has done an excellent job as a regional strategic deterrent over the last 30 years. The fact that we havn't had to use it in "real" operations is wholey due to the fact we have the most capable and highly trained aircrew in the region. Regardless of the platform.
And the F-18 a bomb truck ?
you idiot, hahhahahahhahhahahha
tremor21 2 years ago
super hornet looks absolute shit , has less flying range and cant carry as much of a pay load as a F 111
lmath13 2 years ago
F 111 are faster to
4tw4tw4tw 2 years ago
But are not as manoeuvrable, these a big difference between strike fighter and air superiority
LiwamGeebon 2 years ago
On the other hand, the F-111 lacks even the most rudimentary avionics suite as compared to modern airframes. Tell me, when did we ever make use of the F-111's payload or range? Or its virtually non-existant AA capability? In fact, give me one example of the F-111 being used in a real operation? Why would we instead use the F/A-18A as our 'bombtruck' in Iraq if there was no need for air superiority and the F-111 is supposedly so good? They haven't been a viable platform for a long time.
MudRat02 2 years ago 6
@MudRat02 But they have been an incredible deterent.
dxhumph 1 year ago
@dxhumph I'll give it that, and for its day it certainly was a fantastic jet.
@ColdWarWarriors There is some truth to what you say on a platform v platform basis, however the Pak-Fa won't be in production until late this decade, FOC who knows when? At the end of the day, the Super Hornets (some of which may become our Growlers), the F-35, and Wedgetail AW&CS adds up to a cutting edge networked air force. The upshot of this is that our planes are more effective in practice than on paper.
MudRat02 1 year ago
@MudRat02 F-35 cutting edge?!? huh? can't turn, can't run, can't hide...don't be surprised if that program is cut.
hdmccart 1 year ago
@hdmccart Turning ability, speed and stealth is what makes a plane cutting edge? How archaic.
MudRat02 1 year ago
@MudRat02 Discuss..
hdmccart 1 year ago
@MudRat02 Actually, rather than 'discuss' please elaborate on your response as to why you consider these traits 'archaic'.
hdmccart 1 year ago
@hdmccart I will PM you the merits of the F-35 in the context of its current and projected contemporaries when I get the chance this week, it will be too lengthy for a youtube video comment. In the meantime, speed, roll rate, g-limits, turn radius, stealth .ect - yes they are necessary and were all-important in previous generations, but are far from being the make or break for this fighter.
MudRat02 1 year ago
@hdmccart Cant turn? Sustained and instantaneous turn rates as good or better than an F-16 means it cant turn? What have you been smoking? Cant run? greater than a 1:1 T/W ratio on 50% fuel means it cant run? What have you been smoking? Cant hide? All aspect X band LO and LPI sensors and comms means cant hide? What have you been smoking? Dont believe every Kopp you read.
anurism1 1 year ago
@anurism1 All aspect LO...HUH? and cross band at that! reference please...
hdmccart 1 year ago
@hdmccart Cross band? I said X band as in X the letter, you know, comes after W? Its the band virtually all FCR's use. And yes the F-35 is designed around an all aspect LO concept, hit the LM website if you want a reference.
anurism1 1 year ago
You've just lost all credibility. Now you're resorting to semantics. Pointing out the order of the alphabet. Referencing the LM site to support an LM product (that is farcical). But most of all stating in a previous post "Dont believe every Kopp you read"...I'm assuming you're familiar with his CV? Maybe you are privy to some intelligence source that could enlighten us as to Kopps, et al, failings in analysis?
hdmccart 1 year ago
@hdmccart I've lost all credibility? You dont know what X band is an I've lost credibility? Of course why would you ask the people who make the F-35 as to its design paradigm? Of course you wouldnt ask CCA if Coke is in fact a cola. Mate you're a joke. Kopp is a joke because his arguments are ESAILY dissected for the absolute crap that they are, all specious crud built on flimsy assumptions. I have seen his CV, he's a mobile phone engineer IIRC. And AFAIK he has no security clearance level.
anurism1 1 year ago
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hdmccart 1 year ago
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hdmccart 1 year ago
@hdmccart Why dont you check out ozzy blizzard at blogspot if you want to see a detailed rebuttal of Kopp's argument.
anurism1 1 year ago
@anurism1 Good site - give you that...I hope your man is right in his analysis both of the super and the 35, as a fellow AUS i consider it a little important! Gotta say though that I would not be surprised if the 35 was axed with its good gear cannibalized and inserted into the 22 (with a resumption of the line of course)...difficult yes, i know..
hdmccart 1 year ago
@anurism1 As good a blog as it is it's not much - do you have any other references supporting the same line? Honest question..
hdmccart 1 year ago
think u better do some research on what is a better aircraft, you have no idea
wederbremen 2 years ago
wow another noob
22hellman22 2 years ago
hey any of you guyz can help me
how do recruits who join the adf air force get trained to become pilots if you wanna be one?
r1ckyla 2 years ago
Wait a second are you talking about Australia or another country blakeblake321?
galdorv 2 years ago
Im not to upset that this is just a filler,the F35 2 will be one asskickier of a plane
LiwamGeebon 2 years ago
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73XR673 2 years ago
Australia and the Super Bug, exciting times :)
kmcnelley1981 2 years ago
su-35 > f/a-18 / f-35
odst121 2 years ago
F/A-18F, F-35 > Su-35.
arnaage 2 years ago
First off, F-35 >>> Su-35 by a long shot. You don't even know. Don't even bother comparing 'dogfighting' capabilities, it doesn't matter. F-35 will reinvent the way air combat is fought. It could fire an AIM-9x Sidewinder at a plane directly behind it. BVR combat, F-35 wins again with it's stealthy design and superior avionics.
Su-35 might > F/A-18, too bad there's only been 12 built, and none are for sale for export.
OlderG0ds 2 years ago
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ceskazbrojovka17HMR 2 years ago
maybe you should do some research mate
probson777 2 years ago
wow man just wow
22hellman22 2 years ago
Great choice of aircraft by the RAAF, it's a pity it's only to fill a gap and not for a continued role in maintaining Australia's defense.
Yeah I, like most, will be sorry to see the mighty F-111 leave our skies forever but at least it is, in the interim, being super seated by a worthy aircraft.
Also, congratulations Mr. Roberton on your promotion!! When last we met you we're 75 SQN's C.O. "Wing Commander" Roberton, so again congratulations Sir.
:o)
SpartanA2129 2 years ago 7
it's anoyying we are getting rid of them when we get the JSF, illd prefer 100 E/F models than the JSF, if the JSF gets in to a god fight with a good aircraft it's gone in my opinion
blakeblake321 2 years ago
It's likely Australia will procure around 70 F-35 and then keep the F-18F for some time.
arnaage 2 years ago
It's never meant to get into a "fight" per say, it's simply meant to fire missiles at enemy aircraft without them knowing where to look out for next.
xero993 2 years ago
I think they are geting super hornets and F-35s to replace F-111's and some of the older F-18s
galdorv 2 years ago
yea i would prefer this than the F-35 plus the Super Hornet is going to be in ther for about 10-15 years though
gunna take along time to get all 100 F-35
blakeblake321 2 years ago
Great move RAAF - get out there and promote this aircraft and yourselves. Nice. Wear your 'Super Dog' tag given by AVM Peter Criss (rtd) with pride. 'SupaDoggies' are GO!
bengello 2 years ago
beaut aircraft... gotta love f/18s
mcfurley 2 years ago
I think that it is awesome that the RAAF even has a Youtube account =)
dingus153 2 years ago
great video
manascaper22 2 years ago