Dan Savage at Manitoba - Does lying about my virginity make me a bad feminist?

[hipp6y]

if it's about coming across as, i don't know, clean and modest or something(though i don't think sex is any measure of that) it's fucked up all right, what's more if it's about sleeping with a guy who only wants to 'score' virgins, and you'd lie to do that you've got issues.

[TruthSpeaker1010]

What the fuck does this inarticulate white hypocrite faggot know about feminists or women? DIrty shit-dick. Please shut the fuck you piece of hypocritical misogynist shit. "Boohoooooo I'm a faggot I don't have the right to marry, where's my white Irish privilege?!!!" This guy is so full of disgusting hate of women b/c he doesn't have a vagina. This 55 yo asshole retard "sex columnist" hacks off people who are smart & repeats it. Wow dude, how white of you. What a fucking hack.

[Aicirt8]

I don't think it's anit-feminist, it just seems like a jerky thing to do

[ogrish84]

SEX IS RAPE!

[Geezu5]

I would imagine feminism is about standing up for yourself as a woman and not lying about who you are to get what you want... Just my guess, of course I'm somewhat chauvinistic but whatever...

[stophthecomputerwiz]

Why does it matter if you're not a virgin anyway? Virgin or not a virgin, you're still going to fuck regardless.

[2999jean]

What the hell does lying about your virginity or anything else for that matter to a potential partner have to do with feminism? It just makes you dishonest and that to me is BAD.

Also; why would you want to be with a guy who is that preoccupied with the state of your vagina instead of being interested in you as a whole person?

[Lijacote]

@LynxChan Thanks for the fresh perspective, that makes a lot of sense to me.

[xxBlacksundayxx]

Feminism is completely retarded and cancerous to the "gender war"

Chivalry all the way.

[Lokifan13]

@xxBlacksundayxx Chivalry is a sexist and outmoded style of behaviour. And thinking women deserve to be treated equally? Not retarded.

[xxBlacksundayxx]

@Lokifan13

It's not sexist, males and females are NOT equal, they are different but neither is better than the other. Chivalry is polite and well...Has been respected, and still is by down-to-earth parents and grandparents alike.  Now, if you know NOTHING about human attraction/mating anatomy then you are PROBABLY spit-licking feminist...Rug muncher, all of the above.

[pendulousphallus]

Hilar.

[dragoneagle19]

oh lol!

[gramamge33]

umm...Why would this make her a bad feminist? Bad person maybe but bad feminist? And does she know who she's gonna fuck next and knows he'll only want a virgin or does she want every guy to think he's her first (news flash they'll assume you're lying)? I don't get that AT ALL

[maybeilljoincia]

@gramamge33 I have to agree with Dan. Lying about your virginity is anti-feminist and fucked up. Feminism is about owning your body and sexuality. Lying about your sexuality means you are ashamed of it. I can't really find a way to justify lying about the virginity.

[kiwisunshine5233]

@maybeilljoincia "Lying about your sexuality means you are ashamed of it."

If the guy was upfront about not wanting to be with nor have sex with a non-virgin, it doesn't necessarily mean you're ashamed of your sexuality to lie about it, lying in this case just means you're greedy for sex and/or are scared of being dumped.

[JohannVII]

@kiwisunshine5233 Of course, if the guy only wants to fuck a virgin, then you'd be obtaining consent for the sex under false pretenses, which, while not necessarily illegal, is still NOT OKAY. Add to that the complicity in perpetuating sexist, socially-destructive memes regarding female sexuality, and I'm going to agree that lying about virginity runs counter to contemporary feminist theory; it enables and rewards a form of sexual chauvinism.

[sirald66]

@maybeilljoincia - I don't think lying has to mean shame, it could mean selfishness to get what you want.