EDUPUNK Battle Royale - Part 1

[acorreal]

Por favooorrr alguien puede traducir al español esta entrevista???

[GreyAutumn]

You would think these people gathered to talk about education but noooo..

[RSwordIAAA]

punk is not a genre

[GreyAutumn]

@RSwordIAAA punk does not exist

[edupunkist]

punk is not dead! DIY is not music its a mind set!! it was here before the word punk was coined and it will be here after!!

[JonathonRichter]

joecar has it right. Punk is Dead. Long Live Punk. Remix is a new force reshaping our musical lives - but by its definition doesn't necessarily add anything new. Remix is sampling other cultures, sounds, beats, and harmonies. But something new does emerge and that's awesome. Punk Rock is over as a strong cultural influence. For the moment. But it's still a great meme. Appropriate to educational use of technology - REJECT THE SYSTEM WHICH DICTATES THE NORM

[joecar]

hey guys some know - it ticked and it exploded

it is all about ripping it and remixing it

[JonathonRichter]

"edupunk" is not a good name - "edupunk" is a perfect name. Part of the frame distorts the nature of transition we truly need to make, another part of the frame is dead on, pardner. Jim should get the bumper stickers and feel smug with his wife: wow. what a contribution, bud. Gardner should understand more about punk than those brit Great RocknRoll Swindle blokes and how American punks co-opted it for political, social, and other change; doesn't strike me as a rocker. Subvert d Dominant Paradigm

[gardnerc]

Which American punks? What change? Where is that change now? Did the "punk" spirit help it last--if it did? Examples, please.

Talk about subversion is easy.

[JonathonRichter]

How easy to sit back and be the judge of whether a social influence was effective enough. I am an example. Dead Kennedys, Descendents, Minor Threat, Black Flag, The Cramps, The Freeze, Fear, Bad Religion, etc. etc. This genre gave purchase for people to THINK, feel empowered across multiple lines of identity, living on in the lives of nearly all who it touched and the teaching of all of those they teach. Punk Rock worked on the basement like Howard Zinn and other intellectuals work on the Roof.

[gardnerc]

I'll give you Black Flag and The Cramps for enduring influence. But your description of what the genre afforded you--I don't doubt it--is not different at all from the way I feel about other genres. One big problem with punk is that it insisted it was the only true way. Everyone else was bogus, to the punks. That's the oldest "revolutionary" dogma going. But YMMV. And for the record, I ain't sittin' back. :)

[JonathonRichter]

one of the only things that really characterized punk was Aggressive Ideology of Dissent - punks never even got along well and had stupid wars (e.g. skins vs. straight edge). Ferocity gave a lot of them an air of "better than thou", true enough. But it's really ridiculous to characterize them all as same. That's just plain ignorant bigotry. Lots of genres have dissent in it, yes, tho punk IS. A Grounded Theory approach to discern conditions and contexts in musical genre influences would be cool.

[ggatin]

Decolonize and resist the corporatization of education, the florescent lighted LMS of Blackboard, WebCT, Moodle.

Agree that "punk" may not be the best model but it captures the spirit.