On the original design you need dihedral or winglets for stability, the landing gear could be lighter. Do some reading and try again, you can make it work!
You need either a stronger rubber band, a bigger tail, or launch it gently by hand. If you eliminate the stall they both look like they will fly. Very nice job.
hell if i went throught sll the trouble with builing them and they were to heavy for the ruber band to carry i would cut the nose piece flat and mount a small motor on it
First off, it is nice to see kids your age with interests other than video games. The plane looks awesome. I own a 1946 Aeronca Cheif myself. The initial take off attempt is a perfect example of the "yaw" that is developed from a single prop aeroplane. I believe you would of had lift off if the main wings had more angle of incedence. If you noticed with a tail dragger, when the tail comes up, the angle at which the main wings intersect the air, they are basically straight. Awesome though!
You should check out the contemperary designs in the model aviation world. You are way off getting something to perform well. You can buy kits from SIG that are a good start. It's okay to scratchbuild but you need better design parameters. That second design might have worked with a lifting stabilizer. Visit a local model club or read a modeling magazine for more info.
No one tries for distance in rubber power anymore. Duration is where it is at.
You're retarded and clearly do not know much of anything relating to this subject. A classic 'Youtube idiot', posting and commenting where you do not belong. A proper free flight rubber powered model can achieve flight times on the order of 10mins indoors. Outdoors, they can fly out of sight.
The planes shown here are a good attempt, but appear too heavy and overbuilt to fly well, if at all.
@MSJDesign im just going to ignore what you said in your comment because clearly you've gone crazy. im pretty sure you get the joke because if you were trying to insult me you spelled it wrong. just laugh and forget about it, if you comment back then ive become an important obstacle in your life and you wouldnt want that would you.
May not of worked, but at least you tried it out and had the balls to post your results. Good on you. It is never a failure because you always learn something from a situation. So goes the good part of life!
I would say the angle of incidence of the wing relative to the fuselage is too little on the homemade design and that is why it doesnt fly well. the airfoil looked like a perfectly symmetric one as well. This would not give it enough lift to fly.
The prop spinning causes torque so you need a rudder on there and point it in the direction the prop is not spinning. Just a little though. Enough to keep you straight. You are getting good lift it is just that you need to make sure the wing is not touching the ground. Maybe stick ailerons and elevators on there to for up trim and direction correction. lol rhyme.
The yellow one flies great if you have the CG about 1/ of the way down the wing and you THROW IT!!!!!!!! the ground launch takes up about half the rubberbands power BTW i thing the homemade blue one the wing was too far forwrd
You need down thrust and right thrust on the propeller. You need to add lots of dihedral to the wing. You need to have the balance point 1/3rd back from the leading edge. You need a few degrees of incidence on the wing.
The landing gear is your problem.... it's throwing the CG (center of gravity) too far to the rear. Make it lighter weight and pointing to the nose and not the tail. You can try more rubber and stretch winding it . You're working way to hard to re-invent the wheel !
the reason your plane reered to the left was because your landing gears are too narrow i never put wheels on mine and rather throw them than floor launch them
the landing gear is too far back from the center of gravity for it to take off from the wheels. if the landing gear is moved forward, there is no reason the Aeronca should not take off from the wheels.
you've just got to make sure that the cg is about 1/4 of an inch behind the center of pressure, and of course that its balanced latteraly. either add weight to the nose (checking... then add or subtract accordingly) or mount the wings so that the cg is on the right spot. nice design though. 5 stars
the second version needed mor tail stablization nad the main wing needs a to sit further back on the fueselage(to keep from stalling) and you need more of a "V" tilt on the main wing(for stablizaition)=)
UHm yo dude freakin nice job but if i were you get the plane in your hand and trow it hard and then it goes in the air. There's no way it would take off like that.But otherwise nice job man
i participated in a similar project in my high school for a state wide competition known as science olympiad
i got eigth in the state with my plane. SOme advice is to make the plane as light as possible. mine had a wingspan of 50 centimeters and weighed under 7 grams
it flew for 43 seconds in a circle in a gym. I used simple ribs and mylar for the wings.
they are very stupids
TheWilliam1991tube 4 weeks ago
mas inutil impocible jajjaaa
giomenpc 2 months ago
On the original design you need dihedral or winglets for stability, the landing gear could be lighter. Do some reading and try again, you can make it work!
ScienceguyOrg 3 months ago
These were crap.
GORDON49X 3 months ago
65 HP? didn't know horses could fly hehe :)
ChiIdKiIIer 4 months ago
Who thought the first plane was WAY bigger?
MiniMegaMuffin 6 months ago
its either to heavey, or needs the prepellors to spin faster.
bonbonbuns 6 months ago
Fly outside, earling morning. Maiden flights require unrestricted airspace. Hand launch over soft grass. Adjust model as necessary.
hollyrollerful 8 months ago
You need either a stronger rubber band, a bigger tail, or launch it gently by hand. If you eliminate the stall they both look like they will fly. Very nice job.
FreindlyMantis 9 months ago
put a rc motor on there then it would fly
toaster550 9 months ago
hell if i went throught sll the trouble with builing them and they were to heavy for the ruber band to carry i would cut the nose piece flat and mount a small motor on it
freakstyle2030 10 months ago
you guys need bigger tails!!! so the planes wont stall
00Jesusrocks 1 year ago
First off, it is nice to see kids your age with interests other than video games. The plane looks awesome. I own a 1946 Aeronca Cheif myself. The initial take off attempt is a perfect example of the "yaw" that is developed from a single prop aeroplane. I believe you would of had lift off if the main wings had more angle of incedence. If you noticed with a tail dragger, when the tail comes up, the angle at which the main wings intersect the air, they are basically straight. Awesome though!
Bushflyerman 1 year ago 2
D+ Good song though.
esl19 1 year ago
they should make a hydraulics cannon like the aircraft carrier do
xarlz159 1 year ago
The second one needs dihedral, more nose weight, and less drag producing landing gear.
multicolor0 1 year ago
The first one didn`t have enough power to take off from the ground. Try hand launching both of them.
multicolor0 1 year ago
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multicolor0 1 year ago
You should check out the contemperary designs in the model aviation world. You are way off getting something to perform well. You can buy kits from SIG that are a good start. It's okay to scratchbuild but you need better design parameters. That second design might have worked with a lifting stabilizer. Visit a local model club or read a modeling magazine for more info.
No one tries for distance in rubber power anymore. Duration is where it is at.
AugustusLarch 1 year ago
Build, Fly, Crash, Repair, Modify, Repeat.
imbok 1 year ago
@imbok hahaha got it worked down to science, eh? ;)
ncn8ochaser 1 year ago
be aware of the torque ! makes the aircraft making a left roll due to propeller torque on the chassis by spinning right
christos200 1 year ago
get some aerodynamics and aircraft stability knowledge.
VienQuach 1 year ago
second one was tail heavy
nibbler125 1 year ago
you should of made it so once it got off of the ground the heavy landing gear would come off
monboy10 1 year ago
Your build quality is superb. try trimming your models and check the centre of gravity to make sure there is enough nose weight
pfishy69 1 year ago
fail and the diedral?????
PedroKolbEmmel 1 year ago
JAJAJAJAJAJA
Kokilo97 2 years ago
fail
aaronrose83 2 years ago
if wheel base was wider it wouldn't tip so much :)
rc18trocks 2 years ago
whats up wit the landing gear
SgtHamster45 2 years ago
dude, you really dont know anything about airplanes!!?? that's the shittiest thing in youtube!!!
when i was 10 i made better airplanes
tinorkertesz 2 years ago
same, but give him some credit for effort
NIGHTEHAWK 2 years ago
omg is everyone retarded who has a rubber band powered plane? just freakin throw it and it will flly for longer and better
Reallaty 2 years ago
@Reallaty
You're retarded and clearly do not know much of anything relating to this subject. A classic 'Youtube idiot', posting and commenting where you do not belong. A proper free flight rubber powered model can achieve flight times on the order of 10mins indoors. Outdoors, they can fly out of sight.
The planes shown here are a good attempt, but appear too heavy and overbuilt to fly well, if at all.
tommyeflight89 2 years ago 13
@tommyeflight89 10 minutes are you serious, ill believe you when you make a vid and show me
Reallaty 2 years ago
@Reallaty
Do a search in Youtube for 'F1D'.. Flights of arround ten minutes are possible indoors.
A search on 'F1B' will show you some outdoor rubber power models. They need special 'dethermaliser' devices to prevent them flying away.
jetplaneflyer 1 year ago
@tommyeflight89 its not about how fun it is its about how far it flys
The700jam 1 year ago
@The700jam I do this for fun....am I wrong?
tomview1 1 year ago
@tommyeflight89 i wonder how many people read your ENTIRE comment
AdamSchaller123 1 year ago
@Reallaty Are you dumb?
MSJDesign 1 year ago
@MSJDesign nope I can speak but thanks for asking
Reallaty 1 year ago
@Reallaty Can you read? Complete sentences? Grasp the concept of gravity? Chew your own food? Wipe your own rear?
MSJDesign 1 year ago
@MSJDesign im just going to ignore what you said in your comment because clearly you've gone crazy. im pretty sure you get the joke because if you were trying to insult me you spelled it wrong. just laugh and forget about it, if you comment back then ive become an important obstacle in your life and you wouldnt want that would you.
Reallaty 1 year ago
hey, in what grade was this?
Bucker131Jungmann 2 years ago
the second plane needs a longer fuselarge stick it will mak it more stable you could also add dihideral
TheFreddyweddy 2 years ago
May not of worked, but at least you tried it out and had the balls to post your results. Good on you. It is never a failure because you always learn something from a situation. So goes the good part of life!
1968DartGTS 2 years ago
wow that was dumb
Footballar09 2 years ago
you must see the el proyecto del avioncito or el vuelo de gala javier and que vuelo caray!!! :)
JoAcORaBbIdSrUleZ 2 years ago
seee the el proyecto del avioncito
PabloVader 2 years ago
# 2 is a little tale heavy
stealthhamster7 2 years ago
I would say the angle of incidence of the wing relative to the fuselage is too little on the homemade design and that is why it doesnt fly well. the airfoil looked like a perfectly symmetric one as well. This would not give it enough lift to fly.
MissDaProach 2 years ago
Because of the direction of the prop spin you must put a slight angle on the prop axis to blow up onto the underside of the wing to counter this.
ETericET 2 years ago
what about reduce weight and get some information about center of gravity???
Nitroboss2007 2 years ago
ok now you need a rpm moltiplicator at the end of the rubber band!
spiritointhe84 2 years ago
The prop spinning causes torque so you need a rudder on there and point it in the direction the prop is not spinning. Just a little though. Enough to keep you straight. You are getting good lift it is just that you need to make sure the wing is not touching the ground. Maybe stick ailerons and elevators on there to for up trim and direction correction. lol rhyme.
bananasfoster2 2 years ago
The yellow one flies great if you have the CG about 1/ of the way down the wing and you THROW IT!!!!!!!! the ground launch takes up about half the rubberbands power BTW i thing the homemade blue one the wing was too far forwrd
Freerunner72 2 years ago
You need down thrust and right thrust on the propeller. You need to add lots of dihedral to the wing. You need to have the balance point 1/3rd back from the leading edge. You need a few degrees of incidence on the wing.
hopeso 2 years ago
EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mojsije1234 2 years ago
At least you had a go. Learn from your mistakes, make adjustments, and try again.
Mark2790 2 years ago
nice really cool. whats the song
mustkill139 2 years ago
plane was too heavy. and center of gravity is up forward too much.
edwin4759 2 years ago 2
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lose the music, and dont post any more slide shows on youtube. Faggot.
Ignantredneck 2 years ago
cool project :)
Anthonytheforgotten 2 years ago 2
it a little late but you have to counter the torque roll, mabey by adding some flaps to the main wing
coatduck 2 years ago
5/5
MEGAS1LORD1DEVIN 2 years ago
You need respect the cg...and your structure is mutch robust
eduardofborrego 2 years ago
The landing gear is your problem.... it's throwing the CG (center of gravity) too far to the rear. Make it lighter weight and pointing to the nose and not the tail. You can try more rubber and stretch winding it . You're working way to hard to re-invent the wheel !
grayngreen 2 years ago
the reason your plane reered to the left was because your landing gears are too narrow i never put wheels on mine and rather throw them than floor launch them
owngeblade 2 years ago
Try some dihedral in the wings.
gwheyduke 2 years ago
yea, hand launch time
luckytdt 2 years ago
is aeronca.
MIGUEL2005LIMA 2 years ago
its not ale heavy, the back stabalizers ar way to tiny and must be bigger. also adding a V to the wing would help.
Hello3427956704 2 years ago
the blue one is tail heavy, however is still needs a larger tail.... wings further back would help a lot
frederic470 2 years ago
the blue one would have flowen had it just not been so tail heavy that was the problem
flightsimace 3 years ago
Live and learn, Nice try
Keep trying, never give up.
grk65 3 years ago
weak sauce! Why make a video and put it on Youtube? to be embarrassed?
WillDeStijl 3 years ago
the landing gear is too far back from the center of gravity for it to take off from the wheels. if the landing gear is moved forward, there is no reason the Aeronca should not take off from the wheels.
bmcz 3 years ago
no no no you cant let it just take off... you got to toss it
rideyz3 3 years ago
you've just got to make sure that the cg is about 1/4 of an inch behind the center of pressure, and of course that its balanced latteraly. either add weight to the nose (checking... then add or subtract accordingly) or mount the wings so that the cg is on the right spot. nice design though. 5 stars
sparhu 3 years ago
quien canta esta cancion?
herikdaris 3 years ago
incubus - Drive
rpompeu 2 years ago
Need dihedral in the wings, a little down w/right thrust for the motor, and your Center of gravity needs adjusted.
Good looking planes though
zultone 3 years ago 2
dope it it makes the tissue tingt!
awsem1o1 3 years ago
the second version needed mor tail stablization nad the main wing needs a to sit further back on the fueselage(to keep from stalling) and you need more of a "V" tilt on the main wing(for stablizaition)=)
lfonden 3 years ago
esto no es lo tuyo anda dejalo
aeromodelistacalo 3 years ago
UHm yo dude freakin nice job but if i were you get the plane in your hand and trow it hard and then it goes in the air. There's no way it would take off like that.But otherwise nice job man
PerryMerca 3 years ago
BEST PLANE...SONG 10000000!!!!!
dabliomusic 3 years ago
try throwing the planes?
speedstakerguy 3 years ago
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aardvark97 3 years ago
did u use dope or heat cover?
kmelon1 3 years ago
i recommend instead of masking tape use tissue paper its lighter
marceloyanez111 3 years ago
did you spray the parts with water coz that shrinks the tissue and gives it a better finish
spader699 3 years ago
That Piper cub thing would maybe fly if you lighten up that bulky landing gear. Good vid though. :)
arpnlaei 3 years ago
that suckes totaly!!
sk8hards 3 years ago
That wasn't cool. They didn't fly
jackofclubs469 3 years ago
Definitely a CG issue for both planes. Very nice construction otherwise.
xddorox 3 years ago 4
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what a douche
yfz45094 4 years ago
nice attemps!, the second one should work if you slide the wing backwards to push the CoG forwards.
rocketbat 4 years ago 2
i participated in a similar project in my high school for a state wide competition known as science olympiad
i got eigth in the state with my plane. SOme advice is to make the plane as light as possible. mine had a wingspan of 50 centimeters and weighed under 7 grams
it flew for 43 seconds in a circle in a gym. I used simple ribs and mylar for the wings.
majikrebel 4 years ago
gotta spread the wheels apart a bit so it wont tip so easily
pigmie1 4 years ago