Women don't even bring up rape in America. Why do you think a nine year old girl would not be conditioned by that society?
It sounds like the real argument they are often making is that their morals are just as valid as yours whether you agree rape is wrong or not, because by western moral standards you have to respect their "cultural differences", which is all just a diversion to distract from the exploitative implications of that specific pro-religious applied logic.
prophets 1st wife was in her 40,s,his marriage to aysha was never documented 2 have been consumed,it was a marriage of convenience(political motivation)and like kings of britain spain and russia even in recent centuries where girls as young as 3 were betrothed and married off,its part of history
Unfortunately, AmazingMuslim's account is closed so I can't respond to his video directly, so I'll comment here.
People consider children who have had sex with an adult to be raped in legal terms, regardless of whether both parties consented. This is because it is considered that children are not mature enough mentally to fully understand "adult" relationships. I'm surprised it didn't occur to AmazingMuslim that this is what Naomi was referring to.
Regarding the hijab; it may work but hiding women away both by this method and by keeping them from socialising with non-related men seems to me like hitting a tiny nail with a huge sledgehammer, which is to say a wholly out of proportion solution to what might happen. I hope that such matters can be revisited with more concern for personal freedom than for a worst case scenario.
His points about a different type of slavery are compelling.
I agree that this video should not have been DMCA'ed.
Well, I gotta say this guy's a total moron. But all the same, false DMCAs are dick moves no matter who's using them. It doesn't matter what someone's opinion is, they are allowed to have them.
*realizes this comment is belated, is just now having the time to look through this channel*
if we listen to richard dawkins and take his words on board, this is no different to paraphrasing the teachings of preachers and applying them to your own life what religion hinges on...
The age of consent in Spain is 13, as specified by the Spanish Penal Code. 13 y i old is a kid. she is in grade 7 . and this is happening in EUROPE !!
Then instead of subscribing to me, perhaps you should have made a video response.
But I think you were smart enough to realise, This video is the first part from a series of 6.
This is one of the reasons why I'm not even bothering answering people who made video responses to this one =/ All their questions are answered in the other videos within the series.
Holy crap that NaomiKnight is so stupid. No joke this truly abuse of the DMCA. The First Amendment states that everyone is entitled to freedom of expression, speech, and religion. This AmazingMuslim is someone who is using her clips to right the wrongs of her view.
I don't think this goes against the DMCA law not one bit.
Bottom line freedom of speech should not be squeelched on youtube just because you disagree with someone. Argue his points, but let him talk. I am happy with the way DMCAABUSE assisted this person.
I'm definitely not a fan of naomi BUT I almost feel like he deserved it since he was so smug about using her material. BUT I also agree with you. It definitely falls under fair use and he didn't need her permission.
He did not deserve it. He deserved to have his ideas slapped down because they are horrid, leaving no question as to why. He didnt deserve to be silenced.
Master - in your next life when you come back with female genitalia you will have a more enlightened view on sexuality and aggression - Looks like you're stuck in hero worship (slavery)! Naomi is a control freak and you two found each other! Goody!
I concur with most in the comments section; 5 stars not for the video from either, but due to the fact that somebody tried to suppress another person's freedom of speech.
On this website, nothing is above that standard, and I don't care if you are theist or atheist; don't abuse the DMCA.
Rape is a very strong word. I don't care for the idea of anyone at such a young age being in an what I consider and adult situation, but that was a different time and land. There are things people from that time and place would not like about me.
I'm not a fan of any religion, but I'm not going to rip into someone with such strong language especially with nothing to back it up.
If she filed a DCMA against you bro, that is such bullshit. Screw her.
Does it change, or do we humans just learn more about what's right and what's fair while we learn more about the world around us and about ourselfs as a species?
I gave the video 5*s. Not because of content, having sex with a 9 year old, rape or otherwise is wrong (not that at 9 you can give consent but that a different arguement!) but because of the intent of the DMCAabuse channel
Religous people have some encredibley backwards views. He's an idiot. Mulsims are the worst for being backward. they can't think for them selves, but thats what islam wants, people that can't think for them selves.
Well, but the point I don't understand is: if in Islam is ok to marry a 9 yo and have sex with her, why only mohammed did it? Why they don't do it also today? After all it is quite logical that if Mohammed is the best prophet, the man chosen from god, and he does everything right, the other Muslims should do it too! But if they don't, then they know it is wrong too.
I've found nothing more retarded on the internet (and real life for that matter) than religion, especially the latest incarnation of the sky-god one (the woman opressing/beating, take over the world version). I will support anyone's right to freedom of speech and also expect my own right to such to be respected.
The individual in the video is a complete moronic theist sheep, but the point is right. Would we not be hypocrite to defend our own brotheren but abandon the theist. All we would be doing is lowering ourselves to the theist level.
Gotta admit though when he said its fine when a 9 year old was married and she would have been happy with it, I came really close to abandoning him.
I suppose these two deserve each other. The only side I'm taking is the side of free speech. Maybe I'm a bit pessimistic when I say that amazingmuslim wil probably quite fast forget who defended his right to free speech.
This guy isn't any better then naomi. He assumes that he is morally absolute then critizises other cultures from his position, exactly the same way naomi does. Kind of funny how he assumes consent of a 6 year old girl during a time where even human rights is an unknown concept. And how he tries to make distinctions between slavery, its still slavery no matter how well your treat property.
This Video on this channel adequately represents (to me) the entire purpose of this channel. Free speech at all costs. You don't have to agree with his message to agree that he has the right to deliver it. Some people have difficulty distinguishing the two, it is sad how many people do not understand that.
All of my christian friends think atheists are stupid, they are even spreading posters and buttons and folders to put some sense into their dumb heads.
The men who wrote the Hadith would never allow a woman to dictate what they write. Aisha would never have had her say in the matter. Your argument does not stand.
OK, the DMCA complaint is bogus. Do we need to let this become a forum for the slighted party to make speeches about their content or ideoloical position?
The morals of that tiem allowed it.. theres were your religion gets pwned.
If Allah had any sense of absolute morality, it would follow that he would consider what's wrong(pedophilia if not also rape) back then, wrong today and what was allowed back then, allowed today. Wasnt/Isnt Allah perfect?
I didnt follow what you said at 9:58. Did you say veil? The piece of cloth that muslim women wear over their heads?
Ignoring comments/messages would be 'not listening'. Going out of your way to make sure no one can say what they want is counter to free speech. No conusion here.
I agree that this shouldn't be banned, it's obviously a critique and as such is FairUse, I still don't understand how a company as large as YouTube does not have a lawyer on staff that can explain to them what that means, why is it that you need to post before the video the actual legal jargon just so YouTube has to scratch their heads about it.
However AmazingMuslim is not that amazing, he drops the ball too, he says that A'isha penned some verses which we can read, uncensored right? HAH!
oh how fun, yeah i`ll finish: that pedophilia is ok.
but perhaps you do not undertsand me, i am not saying that this guy should be silenced or cencored, but i do not understand why anybody should listen, or help him spread his insane ramblings. just beacuse someone filed a false dmca, does not make it worthy of attention. so yeah, fuck this guy and his video. dont censor, ignore
This is adressing all of the DMCAabuse gang: i understand that you want to fight false dmcas, and that you do not want to be hypocites, but in this case, you should have just stayed clear.amazingmuslim is just another run of the mill pretentious zealot,but what is not ok is that he defends pedophilia by stating that a 9 year old child, willingly wants sexual relations with a grown man
I hope that you will remove this video. free speech is sacred, but choose who to listen to, and ignore this guy
I agree with you, mostly.. The only issue I take with your position, is that your entire argument assumes that children are capable of giving consent. This assumption is highly debatable... and I'll leave it at that.
Though I don't agree with him, I don't think it was okay to flag his video. There was nothing in what he said that can be considered abusive, hateful, lewd. I think he's a retard for believing what he believes but that's altogether a different problem.
Whoever abuses DMCA to stiffle free speech is a fascist fucktard. It doesn't matter, whether you agree with the view that is expressed in the video. Free speech is for everyone.
Looking at how muslims view women, I find it hard to believe the girl would have come forward and said she was being raped without being beheaded or stoned, also they would have been indifferent to the rape deal. Anyways, who cares, free speech, good, yeah, later.
thats the current saudi corrupted lot, 30 years ago it would have been strange to walk through the streets of tehran or cairo & see women in bhurkas etc, until the 1700s the muslims where the foward thinking liberals advancing engineering & knowledge, while we in the west where burning witches.
then the Saudi royal(pain in the ass) family happened... ¬_¬
you seem to be tuned to muslim(and their territories) history. If you read this and are willing to talk(vent maybe) about it further... i am very intrigued and willing to listen to it.
I must thank the DMCAabuse channel for defending freedom of speech even if you don't agree with the points being made. I watched some of these videos and I both agree and disagree with some of the points being made by both parties. Obviously it's not always possible to agree with the beliefs of someone from a different religion or background. However, defending their right to bring forward their beliefs is something which we all must protect.
I meant to vote 4 stars but I accidentally click at three. I am currently hosting this video also at my channel. I tried to post a copy of this video as a video response to NaomiKnight's video. She has disabled ratings and comments and will only post approved video responses. I don't know if she will approve this one.
Damn it. The muslims are fail in this argument and this guy is a moron.
But a false dmca,,,man that's just wrong.
Just remember what the infidels are doing for you AM. Freedom of speech is important, remember that too if you support the U.N. trying to restrict criticism of religion. That is freedom of speech.
I'm glad this channel, DMCAabuse, shows that its true mission and goal is to defend free speech by showing how any side of any subject or issue can be abused by any side when censored. How can anyone learn to think for themselves if they can not see for themselves how wrong or right an argument is if it's removed to not be seen or judged? This channel has my respect for posting this video and showing us that it stands for something much greater, FREE SPEECH!
I totally disagree with the AmazingMuslim, but Naomiknight shouldn't have censored him. I have a lot of respect for you guys--this shows you respect free speech for the fundies, too.
I think she just really sucked at explaining her point of view lol. She probably meant it was wrong to have sex with a little girl. To her, rape probably equals sex with a minor, go figure.
9 year old girl back then hade no chance of saing no, she would be stone do death. In some muslim countries today we see the same thing women have no rights at all they are slaves.
I wonder how you can say that you believe in free speach and yet your religion do not tolerate it. how is that,
And i know you will say that its not islam and i dont know anything about ismal. But the fact is that it is. Islam is choking free speach.
Don't get me wrong it's not just islam it all extreemest of any religion.I think you are smart enough to figure out what's right or wrong by your self, well at least give it a try, I have done it for years and its working just great, we don't need some old book to tell us what's right or wrong.
And I know you wanna belong somewhere, and that being part of a large strong group is great, but you are smart enough to think for your self.Start living your own life kid.
His beliefs, and/or the beliefs of muslims is irrelevent. Free speech is everyones right, and it's important to stand up for freedom of speech whether or not you agree with what is being said.
Wow, I didn't think she would stoop this low, but she did.
This guy obviously has no clue about secrecy in marriage, especially in arranged marriages. How was the 9 year old supposed to know what marriage really was and what it entails/allows? A child having sex with another child or an adult is immoral and usually the child has no clue what the fuck is going on AKA rape! How can you defend Mohamed now(even if the 9 year old agreed to the marriage!!) ?
If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859
I strongly disagree with what the amazingmuslim said, but I defend his right to say it.
I find the AmazingMuslim to be absolutely disgusting. He is yet another proof why Islam must be opposed by all thinking people. But freedom of speech is even more important. We would be hypocrites if we did not allow him to spout his disgusting opinions.
freedom is for everyone. and today AmazingMuslim is are brother who needs are help. we can address his messagewith free speach our selves once his fredom is returned.
I agree with the comments so far. It's important that guys like AmazingMuslim have freedom express their opinion, whether or not anyone else happens to agree with it. His use of Naomi's video should fall under "fair use".
this person is a disgusting and misguided individual, and i will not forget the contence of his video. however, a tool like the DMCA should never be missused no mater what my convictions or arguments are... and i REALY do not agree with this raving idiots religion or points made in the video.
"morals change by time". this is great i wish more people would admit this simple fact. this is the reason that dogmatism fails with moral guidlines. religious dogma is unable to change with the times, and therfore its moral system is doomed to become obsolete over time.
I completely disagree with everything AmazingMuslim said, but I am in 100% support of his right to say it. In fact, the more he defends Mohammed's pedophilia, the more people will reject Islam which cannot be a bad thing.
This guy's an asshat but DMCA abuse is wrong. Freedom of speech! Defend it.
CaliforniaStratCat 1 year ago
And uhh... I do not think she is lieing... She is pretty wrong, but, I kinda see today's world & Mohammad to be kinda scarry. -.-
Tyco200 1 year ago
And also, girls in Islam have to rights. Even today. Look at women's rights in Islam. -.-
Tyco200 1 year ago
Yea but,... Why would we accept little kids being married... I mean... That doesn't work... o_e
Tyco200 1 year ago
Hm. Well, I do go against the islamic law to mary 9yr old girls... And um, these small children are kinda raped...
Tyco200 1 year ago
this dude is very disturbed
suburbanpsychopathic 1 year ago
Women don't even bring up rape in America. Why do you think a nine year old girl would not be conditioned by that society?
It sounds like the real argument they are often making is that their morals are just as valid as yours whether you agree rape is wrong or not, because by western moral standards you have to respect their "cultural differences", which is all just a diversion to distract from the exploitative implications of that specific pro-religious applied logic.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
most slaves the prophet bought or receieved were set free,in fact he made it his mission 2 purchase and set them free
sophietaleb 2 years ago
prophets 1st wife was in her 40,s,his marriage to aysha was never documented 2 have been consumed,it was a marriage of convenience(political motivation)and like kings of britain spain and russia even in recent centuries where girls as young as 3 were betrothed and married off,its part of history
sophietaleb 2 years ago
Unfortunately, AmazingMuslim's account is closed so I can't respond to his video directly, so I'll comment here.
People consider children who have had sex with an adult to be raped in legal terms, regardless of whether both parties consented. This is because it is considered that children are not mature enough mentally to fully understand "adult" relationships. I'm surprised it didn't occur to AmazingMuslim that this is what Naomi was referring to.
SpookyFan 2 years ago
Regarding the hijab; it may work but hiding women away both by this method and by keeping them from socialising with non-related men seems to me like hitting a tiny nail with a huge sledgehammer, which is to say a wholly out of proportion solution to what might happen. I hope that such matters can be revisited with more concern for personal freedom than for a worst case scenario.
His points about a different type of slavery are compelling.
I agree that this video should not have been DMCA'ed.
SpookyFan 2 years ago
technically the term NaomiKnight should have used was Statutory Rape
mgk22 2 years ago
Well, I gotta say this guy's a total moron. But all the same, false DMCAs are dick moves no matter who's using them. It doesn't matter what someone's opinion is, they are allowed to have them.
*realizes this comment is belated, is just now having the time to look through this channel*
Bttscks 2 years ago
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coladict 2 years ago
"That is as retarded as saying killing is wrong..."
-said the retarded man.
I would want this to stay up because it would make great fodder for atheists, even the non-Dawkinsians like me(I've never read his work).
IdeasKosmos 2 years ago
Way to take that statement out of context dickhead. What you did is called quotemining.
sleestak119 2 years ago
this guys contradicted himself anyway
if we listen to richard dawkins and take his words on board, this is no different to paraphrasing the teachings of preachers and applying them to your own life what religion hinges on...
ch1ral 2 years ago
I dont agree with this deluded man but i do acknowledge that he was handled wrongly..
Now i dont know why he is suspended and make no assumptions on why, but this video shouldnt have been DMCAd
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago
The age of consent in Spain is 13, as specified by the Spanish Penal Code. 13 y i old is a kid. she is in grade 7 . and this is happening in EUROPE !!
activemuslim 2 years ago
Im sorry but have you ever been in spain?
their culture is very diffrent to the most western countries and yes they are fucking morons, just like you :)
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago
This guy is obviously more intelligent than NaomiKnight. Obviously that doesn't mean much since she has only half a braincell.
TimesEyes 2 years ago
I want to say one more thing: Obviously. Sorry!
TimesEyes 2 years ago
This guy is a moron...
Starmexus84 2 years ago
Then instead of subscribing to me, perhaps you should have made a video response.
But I think you were smart enough to realise, This video is the first part from a series of 6.
This is one of the reasons why I'm not even bothering answering people who made video responses to this one =/ All their questions are answered in the other videos within the series.
-AmazingMuslim
AmazingMuslim 2 years ago
I dont think watching all of the 6 videos will make you seem less of a moron..
You are a muslim, and you absorb the teachings of the koran...
Only that in itself drives you to do stupid shit like defending pedophilia and the veil.
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago
Holy crap that NaomiKnight is so stupid. No joke this truly abuse of the DMCA. The First Amendment states that everyone is entitled to freedom of expression, speech, and religion. This AmazingMuslim is someone who is using her clips to right the wrongs of her view.
I don't think this goes against the DMCA law not one bit.
darkdevilmessiah 2 years ago
"Even if it was normal back then, it's still wrong"
-Our standards of morality change over time. Some of your present actions may be deemed illegal and immoral in the future.
sputnikowns 2 years ago
Bottom line freedom of speech should not be squeelched on youtube just because you disagree with someone. Argue his points, but let him talk. I am happy with the way DMCAABUSE assisted this person.
No one should be silenced.
lordtalon69 2 years ago 4
Finally, the smart Muslim side of the story.
Good work mate!
PrydainFawr 2 years ago
I know. I'd rather hear someone who is educated on their stance even if I oppose it. Why is his account closed?
Recovermin 2 years ago 2
exactly, why is his account closed?
v1660 2 years ago
Just because that Aisha girl didnt complain doesnt mean she liked it.
Ever considered the fact that she was afraid of your socalled mohammed?
sounynoma 2 years ago
I'm definitely not a fan of naomi BUT I almost feel like he deserved it since he was so smug about using her material. BUT I also agree with you. It definitely falls under fair use and he didn't need her permission.
Starmexus84 2 years ago
He did not deserve it. He deserved to have his ideas slapped down because they are horrid, leaving no question as to why. He didnt deserve to be silenced.
Cafeeine 2 years ago 5
Master - in your next life when you come back with female genitalia you will have a more enlightened view on sexuality and aggression - Looks like you're stuck in hero worship (slavery)! Naomi is a control freak and you two found each other! Goody!
wombchakra 2 years ago
I cannot believe Naomi filed a DMCA claim. This is amazing.
jebus6kryst 2 years ago
Slavery wasn't "wrong" at the time.
The only reason it became something "wrong" in USA is because the North didn't have slaves.
D3mi4n 2 years ago
Your content is crap but this is fair use, she shouldn't have filed a takedown notice. She is obliged to consider fair use before she does that.
dorbie 2 years ago
I concur with most in the comments section; 5 stars not for the video from either, but due to the fact that somebody tried to suppress another person's freedom of speech.
On this website, nothing is above that standard, and I don't care if you are theist or atheist; don't abuse the DMCA.
Peace.
logicaust 2 years ago 2
i don't agree with what this guy has to say, but if that chick tried to silence him, that's not on.
Brettah31 2 years ago
I agree with AmazingMuslim.
Rape is a very strong word. I don't care for the idea of anyone at such a young age being in an what I consider and adult situation, but that was a different time and land. There are things people from that time and place would not like about me.
I'm not a fan of any religion, but I'm not going to rip into someone with such strong language especially with nothing to back it up.
If she filed a DCMA against you bro, that is such bullshit. Screw her.
SlckJwdBtnk 2 years ago
Sex with a nine year old is rape. Its rape now, it was rape back then. You condone child molestation. You disgust me.
scottintulsa 2 years ago
That's not what I said, and you are putting words in my mouth.
SlckJwdBtnk 2 years ago
In the bible, rape is entirely moral. It could be the most effective way to make someone marry you, in fact.
Morality changes over time.
sputnikowns 2 years ago
Does it change, or do we humans just learn more about what's right and what's fair while we learn more about the world around us and about ourselfs as a species?
janeyanna 2 years ago
That's what I meant regarding change, except in that sort of detail. Thanks.
sputnikowns 2 years ago
You sir, are posting videos of very young children on youtube.
You condone child molestation, and you disgust me.
EwBriii 2 years ago
I gave the video 5*s. Not because of content, having sex with a 9 year old, rape or otherwise is wrong (not that at 9 you can give consent but that a different arguement!) but because of the intent of the DMCAabuse channel
BiblicalAtheist 2 years ago
Well done guys.
TheLovePizza 2 years ago
Religous people have some encredibley backwards views. He's an idiot. Mulsims are the worst for being backward. they can't think for them selves, but thats what islam wants, people that can't think for them selves.
malango255 2 years ago
I really don't agree with him.. But let the looney speak, and then debunk him!
This is giving him a credit that he doesnt deserve!
michaelmaage 2 years ago
AmazingMuslim=fail for argument
Noami=fail for posting a DMCA complaint
Paomnnehal 2 years ago 6
Agreed.
dorbie 2 years ago
Well, but the point I don't understand is: if in Islam is ok to marry a 9 yo and have sex with her, why only mohammed did it? Why they don't do it also today? After all it is quite logical that if Mohammed is the best prophet, the man chosen from god, and he does everything right, the other Muslims should do it too! But if they don't, then they know it is wrong too.
Daud2008 2 years ago
It's sad to watch this douche AmazingMuslim try to be logical.
nomoredelusions 2 years ago 4
I've found nothing more retarded on the internet (and real life for that matter) than religion, especially the latest incarnation of the sky-god one (the woman opressing/beating, take over the world version). I will support anyone's right to freedom of speech and also expect my own right to such to be respected.
ReeT0ric 2 years ago
Huh, I agree.
The individual in the video is a complete moronic theist sheep, but the point is right. Would we not be hypocrite to defend our own brotheren but abandon the theist. All we would be doing is lowering ourselves to the theist level.
Gotta admit though when he said its fine when a 9 year old was married and she would have been happy with it, I came really close to abandoning him.
Berserker07 2 years ago 3
Ugh, this hurt. Favorited and five stars for free speech.
I hope this douche gets hit by a truck tho. -.-;
Cheebzsta 2 years ago
Damn..... I cant agree with this guy at all. But hey..... She did something she shouldn't have. We really can't sink down to their level.
Kamidake83 2 years ago
hmm didn't she say "THEY SAY it was normal back then"
and then she says she's still not okay with it
now who dropped the ball?
sidenote: if she has made false DMCA claims however.. she must be punished for that..
even if the target of these claims is in the same camp as many of the people who would deny me freedom of speech if they could
Djsouthpaw1987 2 years ago
And any claims that DMCAabuse is anti-religion (not that I've heard such) can now be thrown out the window. :)
Mnementh2230 2 years ago 2
blah, what a fool.
FallenAngel0fDoom 2 years ago
I guess that even bigoted islamic apologists have the right to speak freely. It's a western value after all.
Ulfbarnen 2 years ago
I support Free Speech 10,000+%
However, I STRONGLY disagree with the male in the vid....
Free Speech means Freedom of UNPOPULAR speech....
Racists, economic class haters, homophobes, sexists, religious zealots,
athiests that hate the spiritual,...all have the right to spew their crap.
No matter how unpopular it is.....
ComstockNevada 2 years ago
Having typed the above,....
There is not much "Free Speech" in Saudi Arabia....
Slavery exists in Sudan
Female circumcision and "honor killings" occur TODAY....
Homosexuals are hung in Iran
Anyone remember what happened to Benazir Bhutto?
ComstockNevada 2 years ago
I suppose these two deserve each other. The only side I'm taking is the side of free speech. Maybe I'm a bit pessimistic when I say that amazingmuslim wil probably quite fast forget who defended his right to free speech.
omegavalerius 2 years ago 2
Yeah...
If AmazingMuslim comes up on this channel again, it would surprise me if it would be, as the one attacking free speech...
Nonetheless, we must stand up for him now.
ZarlanTheGreen 2 years ago
This guy is incredibly creepy.
Flerndip22 2 years ago
Sooooo disagree with Amazingmuslim!
But damn it, FREE SPEECH!
cmba101 2 years ago 4
This guy isn't any better then naomi. He assumes that he is morally absolute then critizises other cultures from his position, exactly the same way naomi does. Kind of funny how he assumes consent of a 6 year old girl during a time where even human rights is an unknown concept. And how he tries to make distinctions between slavery, its still slavery no matter how well your treat property.
b0b0maj0 2 years ago 3
Well said.
KaalGeo 2 years ago
Standard of the time.
Well, I might agree, but isn't religion supposed to give eternal moral standards?
lovasip 2 years ago 2
This guy is out of his freaking mind, completely wrong, an indoctrinated douche,
but he has not committed a dmca violation, and should not have been blocked
BodybuildingMike 2 years ago 2
Free speech, baby!
It makes no difference if someone agrees or disagrees.
All this DMCA craziness is fucking ridiculous.
MisterBusta 2 years ago
LOL she blocked me
anthonzi 2 years ago
Then I have no beef with you as long as you arn't pushing your beliefs.
Bearflogger 2 years ago
C0ct0pus has been suspended w/o notice or warning:
watch?v=CEp57L-x2oY
unaka2012 2 years ago
And what belief are you? If you are a christian you are a moral less savage
Bearflogger 2 years ago
This Video on this channel adequately represents (to me) the entire purpose of this channel. Free speech at all costs. You don't have to agree with his message to agree that he has the right to deliver it. Some people have difficulty distinguishing the two, it is sad how many people do not understand that.
Uberhilarious 2 years ago 3
yeah voicesinthehead and naomi are pretty dmca crazy. they should just grow up about it.
nomercyrules10 2 years ago
I appreciate what you have done. That shows objectivity.
solitair1 2 years ago
His video survives logical criticism. The twat actually has the audacity to equate her emotional arguments to rationality.
Link to the video he is responding to would be appreciated. I don't think everyone should waste there time trying to sort through her personal life.
anthonzi 2 years ago
All of my christian friends think atheists are stupid, they are even spreading posters and buttons and folders to put some sense into their dumb heads.
rasincloud 2 years ago
At least tell us why we might want to instead of spamming the fuck out of the comments section with pointless self promotion
anthonzi 2 years ago
The men who wrote the Hadith would never allow a woman to dictate what they write. Aisha would never have had her say in the matter. Your argument does not stand.
kaduisaui 2 years ago
I am an atheist, and I REALLY respect how this channel is going to bat for a Muslim. That is very honorable.
Bearflogger 2 years ago 3
OK, the DMCA complaint is bogus. Do we need to let this become a forum for the slighted party to make speeches about their content or ideoloical position?
Moonteeth62 2 years ago
The morals of that tiem allowed it.. theres were your religion gets pwned.
If Allah had any sense of absolute morality, it would follow that he would consider what's wrong(pedophilia if not also rape) back then, wrong today and what was allowed back then, allowed today. Wasnt/Isnt Allah perfect?
I didnt follow what you said at 9:58. Did you say veil? The piece of cloth that muslim women wear over their heads?
leojboby 2 years ago
Free speech means free speech for everyone. Keep up the good fight.
RouletteRog 2 years ago 8
WOW! That chick has some HOOTERS on her. Check out her channel.
willpoire 2 years ago
It's good to see that this channel does not discriminate.
willpoire 2 years ago
I changed my video response which is a copy of the AM video from NamoiKnights video to this locations as she has not approved the video response.
Please do not let her off on this. She filed a false DMCA. For that she deserves the same treatment as VFX and fool4alifetime.
brendhanhorne 2 years ago
Ignoring comments/messages would be 'not listening'. Going out of your way to make sure no one can say what they want is counter to free speech. No conusion here.
cheesus00 2 years ago
you cant even message her to tell her she's being an arse because she's 'friend locked'.
Free speech indeed.
cheesus00 2 years ago
Wrong! Free speech gives you the right to speak. But she has the right not to listen. Don't confuse things.
BamBasse 2 years ago 2
I agree that this shouldn't be banned, it's obviously a critique and as such is FairUse, I still don't understand how a company as large as YouTube does not have a lawyer on staff that can explain to them what that means, why is it that you need to post before the video the actual legal jargon just so YouTube has to scratch their heads about it.
However AmazingMuslim is not that amazing, he drops the ball too, he says that A'isha penned some verses which we can read, uncensored right? HAH!
UrinationNation 2 years ago
oh how fun, yeah i`ll finish: that pedophilia is ok.
but perhaps you do not undertsand me, i am not saying that this guy should be silenced or cencored, but i do not understand why anybody should listen, or help him spread his insane ramblings. just beacuse someone filed a false dmca, does not make it worthy of attention. so yeah, fuck this guy and his video. dont censor, ignore
soundgarden22 2 years ago
Totally agree with the DMCA coalition - this is a debate between two YouTube users, not a copyright/DMCA issue.
gstyle67 2 years ago
This is adressing all of the DMCAabuse gang: i understand that you want to fight false dmcas, and that you do not want to be hypocites, but in this case, you should have just stayed clear.amazingmuslim is just another run of the mill pretentious zealot,but what is not ok is that he defends pedophilia by stating that a 9 year old child, willingly wants sexual relations with a grown man
I hope that you will remove this video. free speech is sacred, but choose who to listen to, and ignore this guy
soundgarden22 2 years ago
I agree with you, mostly.. The only issue I take with your position, is that your entire argument assumes that children are capable of giving consent. This assumption is highly debatable... and I'll leave it at that.
mortrek 2 years ago
9 year old girls aren't of sexual maturity, it's damaging later in life, it couldn't of been completely consensual
disgusting, im unsubscribing... trying to justify having sexual intercourse with a 9 year old
IzzyBunneh 2 years ago
Her channel "KnightVsReligion" says:
"Freedom of Speech
Freedom to Criticize Religon is a First Ammendment Right"
How about that...
mikefoz 2 years ago
NaomiKnight crossed a HUGE line by censoring this vid.
TomPaineII 2 years ago 3
Though I don't agree with him, I don't think it was okay to flag his video. There was nothing in what he said that can be considered abusive, hateful, lewd. I think he's a retard for believing what he believes but that's altogether a different problem.
darkmojojojo 2 years ago
people forget that the first age of consent laws ever recorded where for the age of 11.
christians seem to forget that even even until 500 years ago 15 was middle aged & you would be dead by 30.
SCARREDMIND 2 years ago
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
EB Hall (Attributed to Voltaire)
Censorship is not a valid form of argument.
djarm67 (who got it from somewhere on YouTube)
djarm67 2 years ago 2
If I had tits like "NaomiKnight" does, I'd keep them covered: I would not want people thinking I was relying on them for subscribers.
But then again, if I did have tits like her, I'd see a doctor and get rid of them.....
Desertphile 2 years ago 2
But think of the fun you could have with them on those lonely desert nights. The doctor could wait!
TheLovePizza 2 years ago
Whoever abuses DMCA to stiffle free speech is a fascist fucktard. It doesn't matter, whether you agree with the view that is expressed in the video. Free speech is for everyone.
exfalsoquodlibet 2 years ago
i like how he said atheists look at richard dawkins and try to do things like he does and fail
and at the same time muslims try to do what the quran says and fail...
it goes both ways...
BrianJunglist 2 years ago
Looking at how muslims view women, I find it hard to believe the girl would have come forward and said she was being raped without being beheaded or stoned, also they would have been indifferent to the rape deal. Anyways, who cares, free speech, good, yeah, later.
BrianShaneRushton 2 years ago
thats the current saudi corrupted lot, 30 years ago it would have been strange to walk through the streets of tehran or cairo & see women in bhurkas etc, until the 1700s the muslims where the foward thinking liberals advancing engineering & knowledge, while we in the west where burning witches.
then the Saudi royal(pain in the ass) family happened... ¬_¬
SCARREDMIND 2 years ago
you seem to be tuned to muslim(and their territories) history. If you read this and are willing to talk(vent maybe) about it further... i am very intrigued and willing to listen to it.
leojboby 2 years ago
I must thank the DMCAabuse channel for defending freedom of speech even if you don't agree with the points being made. I watched some of these videos and I both agree and disagree with some of the points being made by both parties. Obviously it's not always possible to agree with the beliefs of someone from a different religion or background. However, defending their right to bring forward their beliefs is something which we all must protect.
Neounk 2 years ago
Rated 5* for purpose, not content.
However much you disagree with someones point of view, false DMCA claims are only going to give them more exposure.
hEaDoNtHeBlOcK 2 years ago 2
I meant to vote 4 stars but I accidentally click at three. I am currently hosting this video also at my channel. I tried to post a copy of this video as a video response to NaomiKnight's video. She has disabled ratings and comments and will only post approved video responses. I don't know if she will approve this one.
brendhanhorne 2 years ago
I find it quite unlikely that Mohammad and his followers didn't rape underage girls, but, copyright infringement? Really? Censorship is unacceptable.
butterbattIe 2 years ago 2
Damn it. The muslims are fail in this argument and this guy is a moron.
But a false dmca,,,man that's just wrong.
Just remember what the infidels are doing for you AM. Freedom of speech is important, remember that too if you support the U.N. trying to restrict criticism of religion. That is freedom of speech.
Zaimoren 2 years ago
Freedom of Speech 5 Stars!
Boo for another incorrect use of DMCA.
AmazingMuslim, and NaomiKnight both make some good points, and bad points. And they *both* fall prey to the use of Logical Fallacies.
hyrcan 2 years ago
As most of you, I too despise everything AmazingMuslim said, but...
We must protest against attacks on free speech.
Especially if it comes from those, with whom we agree!
ZarlanTheGreen 2 years ago
Oh my, atheists resorting to censorship now? What's the world coming to!?
mtanti87 2 years ago
I'm glad this channel, DMCAabuse, shows that its true mission and goal is to defend free speech by showing how any side of any subject or issue can be abused by any side when censored. How can anyone learn to think for themselves if they can not see for themselves how wrong or right an argument is if it's removed to not be seen or judged? This channel has my respect for posting this video and showing us that it stands for something much greater, FREE SPEECH!
Watch my latest video on DMCA..
VideoEscaper 2 years ago
Thank you DCMAabuse for helping to protect free speech on YouTube.
Message to anyone wanting to censor a video:
If you try to censor a video it will backfire. DCMAabuse will show it to thousands of people.
WarmWeatherGuy 2 years ago
Free Speech First!!!!!!!!! Thank you guys for reposting this!
MonkeyFinger23 2 years ago
I totally disagree with the AmazingMuslim, but Naomiknight shouldn't have censored him. I have a lot of respect for you guys--this shows you respect free speech for the fundies, too.
Hoyae 2 years ago
I think she just really sucked at explaining her point of view lol. She probably meant it was wrong to have sex with a little girl. To her, rape probably equals sex with a minor, go figure.
rba718 2 years ago
5 stars for free speech, but not for the opinions expressed in the video.
SchrodingersFinch 2 years ago
disagree with amazing muslim, but fuck NaomiKnight for censoring him.
randomcollision6 2 years ago 6
9 year old girl back then hade no chance of saing no, she would be stone do death. In some muslim countries today we see the same thing women have no rights at all they are slaves.
I wonder how you can say that you believe in free speach and yet your religion do not tolerate it. how is that,
And i know you will say that its not islam and i dont know anything about ismal. But the fact is that it is. Islam is choking free speach.
Yevhen123 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong it's not just islam it all extreemest of any religion.I think you are smart enough to figure out what's right or wrong by your self, well at least give it a try, I have done it for years and its working just great, we don't need some old book to tell us what's right or wrong.
And I know you wanna belong somewhere, and that being part of a large strong group is great, but you are smart enough to think for your self.Start living your own life kid.
Yevhen123 2 years ago
His beliefs, and/or the beliefs of muslims is irrelevent. Free speech is everyones right, and it's important to stand up for freedom of speech whether or not you agree with what is being said.
MonkeyFinger23 2 years ago
Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Jew, Wiccan, it doesn't matter your faith or lack there of.
You fuck with free speech, you fuck with me.
DeamonCohln 2 years ago 5
Wow, I didn't think she would stoop this low, but she did.
This guy obviously has no clue about secrecy in marriage, especially in arranged marriages. How was the 9 year old supposed to know what marriage really was and what it entails/allows? A child having sex with another child or an adult is immoral and usually the child has no clue what the fuck is going on AKA rape! How can you defend Mohamed now(even if the 9 year old agreed to the marriage!!) ?
I support free speech, be it stupid!
LogicalSanity 2 years ago
If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859
I strongly disagree with what the amazingmuslim said, but I defend his right to say it.
pchannell 2 years ago
Although I completely disagree with amazingmuslim and I think he is an idiot. But free speech is free speech. NaomiKnight is an idiot in that sense.
devtamagi 2 years ago 5
Pat condel just made a free speech video too!
lothrazar 2 years ago
I find the AmazingMuslim to be absolutely disgusting. He is yet another proof why Islam must be opposed by all thinking people. But freedom of speech is even more important. We would be hypocrites if we did not allow him to spout his disgusting opinions.
BamBasse 2 years ago
I also disagree with AmazingMuslim, but his freedom of speech SHOULD be protected.
5 starred
kurisu313 2 years ago 2
freedom is for everyone. and today AmazingMuslim is are brother who needs are help. we can address his messagewith free speach our selves once his fredom is returned.
conrad4ever 2 years ago
★★★★★ &favd for freedom of speech!
happyfallen 2 years ago 2
Five starred. Yay for free speech!
Bobbiethejean 2 years ago
I agree with the comments so far. It's important that guys like AmazingMuslim have freedom express their opinion, whether or not anyone else happens to agree with it. His use of Naomi's video should fall under "fair use".
inf0dump 2 years ago 2
Freeeeeeeeeeedom!
9thgate 2 years ago 2
Free Speech is for every one
decoyicus 2 years ago 2
Five stars for free speech.
Ateapotist 2 years ago
this person is a disgusting and misguided individual, and i will not forget the contence of his video. however, a tool like the DMCA should never be missused no mater what my convictions or arguments are... and i REALY do not agree with this raving idiots religion or points made in the video.
prowled 2 years ago
AmazingMuslim its a 9 year old child! WTF is wrong with you!?
But yeah if NaomiKnight complained about her You Tube video being used then shes an internet whiner and she needs to step back and endure it!
mrlurp 2 years ago 3
I hope others spread this video around. You don't have to agree with someone's beliefs in order to agree they have the right to their beliefs.
I like the AmazingMuslim too. He seems pretty rational and intelligent from the few videos I've seen of him so far.
baudiirocz 2 years ago 2
No one who practices a religion is rational. At all.
ReeT0ric 2 years ago
That's not true. They may hold some irrational beliefs but I wouldn't say that reflects on their entire character.
baudiirocz 2 years ago 2
Well, I would say that it does and that is as true as it gets as far as I'm concerned. Particularly with this variant of the desert death dogma.
ReeT0ric 2 years ago
"morals change by time". this is great i wish more people would admit this simple fact. this is the reason that dogmatism fails with moral guidlines. religious dogma is unable to change with the times, and therfore its moral system is doomed to become obsolete over time.
rated 5/5 for freedom of speech.
greycloud24 2 years ago 2
TheAmazingMuslim is not someone whose views I support, but his free speech must be protected.
Great job, DMCAabuse. It's good to see you stand for free speech regardless of ideology.
QuantumTuba 2 years ago 5
I completely disagree with everything AmazingMuslim said, but I am in 100% support of his right to say it. In fact, the more he defends Mohammed's pedophilia, the more people will reject Islam which cannot be a bad thing.
jben2north 2 years ago
I may disagree with what he has to say, but he absolutely has the right to say it. Excellent work.
HeliosStation 2 years ago 3
I may not agree with what AmazingMuslim said, But I shall defend his right to say it, it's Great to see DMCAabuse isnt 1 sided, great work guys!
DarkTheAtheist 2 years ago 12
Agreed. I don't like the views expressed by this AmazingMuslim, but he has as much right to express it as anyone of us.
FSAthe1st 2 years ago 7