The Difference Between A Bodybuilding And Powerlifting Squat.m4v

[delcshimo]

everyone says bodybuilding is all show no go but look at how strong jay cutler ronnie coleman are...

[juan1974mendez]

i can't believe i had done body building squats for many years and i used to be proud lifting 225 going parallel to the floor when i was 25. Recently, i began going for madcow 5x5, i am in my 11th week doing powerlifting squat at 315, and in the first week i was only doing 260. It is shocking to know most people in the gym are doing bodybuilding and they don't know the difference.

[MATEOTL86]

Arnold Schwarzenegger used to do 5x5 heavy compounds for years before his body building career. Reg Park (his mentor) told him to stick to heavy squats, bench, presses, etc for a foundation (as in strength) and then to focus on high reps/volume.

[scottabelcoaching]

@MATEOTL86 For sure, foundation training is compound lifts is certainly important to be sure. But training science and knowledge has also certainly progressed since those days as well

[MATEOTL86]

YOu guys are great. Keep it up. Honest and true individuals.

[lllogical]

Can anyone tell me whether bodybuilding or powerlifting will increase my athletic ability? Both sides for their pro and cons. But which one will make me stronger, faster, and better?

Bruce Lee was not big, be strong like a bull. He developed strength by training his muscles like a bodybuilder would, but he also was able to create power through channeling his whole body into one force such as a powerlifter.

[scottabelcoaching]

@lllogical Well I think you answered your own questions there mate. You need a Hybrid approach to training and a more athletic approach to training is that is your goal. these styles can certainly fit in as part of that, but not as an absolute. You would want to look for some kind of specific program design

[lllogical]

@scottabelcoaching thanks for the tip coach! I'm a sophmere at a private university and we have are starting a new powerlifting club. I'm trying to get my squat up but it seems to be very hard since i have narrow hips. Right now i have been doing full squats (ass to grass) but the weight im using too low for powerlifting standards. Im @ 150lbs and can only do a 140lb full squat for 16 reps, why are my legs so weak?

[scottabelcoaching]

@lllogical Well check out our other clip on "Squats Revisited" There is a difference between using leverage advantage and squatting for external loads, and doing the opposite to overload the legs.

But with small hips your squat is only going to be so-so, but plenty of room for improvement there for sure. Once you do an actual powerlifting style and program, the numbers will improve, but development may not

[eastnygoon138]

@lllogical LOL at Bruce Lee being strong like bull

[Arrowstottle]

Wow everyone who is posting up so much hate on this isn't really reading or listening to the guy he is saying powerlifting is about picking up massive amounts of weight, bodybuilding is about training a muscle to look a certain way

for bodybuilding if you are out of proportion you lose points

for powerlifting if you don't lift the weight it's counted as a "no lift"

[OzarksAR]

These comments about bodybuilding not being functional are ridiculous. I trained in mixed martial arts for about 20 years. To supplement my training I would strength train with the focus on high reps, circuits, pushing myself hard both for strength and endurance, which is essentially bodybuilding. That is FAR more applicable to a "functional" sport than putting on a bunch of gear and doing singles and doubles, resting 5 minutes between sets.



[scottabelcoaching]

@OzarksAR I agree with you, so you may be missing the point. The "function" we are referring to, is training that is kinetic-chain-based, not just single-joint, single-plane dominant. Of course Hybrid forms of training utilizing elements of training from all realms, are possible when program design is sound

[OzarksAR]

@scottabelcoaching no, I understand that. I don't think of bodybuilding as simply trying to get bigger muscles. My idea of bodybuilding is from the pre-steroid era, where the goal was to improve ones strength, endurance, flexibility, health, athletic ability and physique. Bodybuilding back than focused on multi-joint movements as they had the most benefit.

[scottabelcoaching]

@OzarksAR Yep, very true. If you watch Kevin in some of the real-time, real-world performance clips on my channel you see exactly what you are describing. And Kevin is 100% Natural Real Deal

So, we agree there pretty much all around mate. Appreciate your post

[scottabelcoaching]

@steveninthematrix "Functional" Are you kidding? Not even a close or appropriate analogy. Neither group woud be considered "functional" athletes, and powerlifters do NOT last longer. Quite the contrary, speaking at the highest levels of course

And don't lose site of the topic here. It's about the squat, not the merits of one pursuit over another. But your analogy is way, way off mate

[Dillznit21]

I understand everyone has their own ideologies but I really don't understand bodybuilding whatsoever. What's the purpose of all that inflated muscle if it's not functional? You don't work the most important aspects of the body...the tendons and ligaments. The more weight you do the greater you work those and the stronger you will get.

[RJORRIS]

@Dillznit21 Because bodybuilding is about muscle development, it has nothing to do with how strong you are, they don't win shows based on how strong they are, it's about working the muscle to make it grow. I bodybuild, and while my chest is bigger than alot of guys, they have a bigger bench press than I do because they train for the movement, and it doesn't do much for developing the muscle. If your a bodybuilder, you don't need strong tendons & ligaments like a powerlifter, they grow anyway.

[NRP128]

I always use a mix of powerlifting and bodybuilding when i lift. I took that advice from a guy named CT fletcher (look him up) and the results have been amazing.

[tlast2O12dude]

1:48  look at me, squatting over double my bodyweight for reps... and i dont think i fit that description he says.

[scottabelcoaching]

@tlast2O12dude That's cool and just fine mate. Exceptions to every rule and observation for sure. Keep hangin and bangin then !

[bklegin]

@scottabelcoaching Its easy to find exceptions to a garbage rule.

[UofMWolverine81]

Coach Abel,

While the box squat is often aimed at the posterior chain, do you think there would be value in doing a modified/fairly narrow stance high box squat for 2 sets of low reps to "wake up" the CNS and then follow up with front squats in a style that, as you like to say, focuses more on the muscles than the movement?

[scottabelcoaching]

depends on the purpose of the training. Not a big fan of low rep squats for most trainees who have any level of experience. (exclusing Powerlifters obviously) Just no training value in it

[onedollerbills]

for me box squats one week then ATG squats the next week have helped build my quads the most. The box squats have helped me by allowing me to put more weight on the bar and allowing me to get that driving strength. and ATG squats destroy my legs and i love not being able to walk the next 2 days.

[nhianho]

Will squatting make my waist bigger? I love squats and deadlifts but I really dont want a bigger waist.

[scottabelcoaching]

Certainly is possible. Its' about how the moves are executed and in what rep range as well. That is what this vid clip is about explaining

So its not about avoiding "Squats" but about learning the difference and "training the muscle, not the movement"

[scottabelcoaching]

Neither mate. Wide stance is less for legs, and more for the "leverage" to use more weight in the "lift" The muscles are secondary in the execution for max lift here.

For working legs, shoulder width apart or slightly closer with bar higher up on the back

[nephildevil]

ok thanks, figured wider would be less focused on the legs but got confused lol

[TryhardGetit]

@scottabelcoaching

Olympic Back Squat !?

[nephildevil]

so wide stance is for legs or for back?

[scottabelcoaching]

Wide stance is for powerlifting because it involves the hips, glutes, and lower back much more.Shoulder width or slightly narrower keeps the focus on the legs.

Kevin Weiss