@mazerrackham001 There were three, I believe. Sidney during the OYW, North American plains during Operation Stardust in 0083, and then Dublin during Operation British in 0087.
@SploraDorali Yeah, I found out since posting the question that this is the case. Just to keep the story line straight, though, Operation British was the OYW Sidney drop. Dublin was from a spin-off series covering the First Neo-Zeon War.
I'm just starting to watch some of these other Gundam series so this stuff is brand new to me. I grew up when 0079 was the only Gundam series in town.
@mazerrackham001 I actually just realized that after I posted, just forgot what was what and put British and Dublin in one group. Thanks for the catch there.
I wouldn't really call ZZ a spin-off more so than a sequel, just to clarify that a little.
in 0083 Stardust Memories there is a scene showing colony fragments that are hundreds of meters long scattered on the plain of North America which is the impact site. But this is wrong. There shouldn't be any large fragments left after impact as most of the colony will vaporize together with the materials on the ground.
The destruction brought by a colony will be no less than an asteroid impact. The Gundam series definitively have underestimated the devastation.
@RNAinterference this anime was made in the 80ies lol the writers aren't nuclear scientist. Can't expect them to depict it accurately, especially when they never seen an actual colony drop or something of that scale.
It may not be the massively destructive colony drop we were expecting, but I do actually kind of like how the colony stays in one piece after it landed. It made for a neat looking setting during the Psyco Gundam Mk II fight in the next episode.
That was a bit....anticlimatic. Given the way they talked about the colony dropping in the MSG: Awakening/escalation/confrontation novels as such a heavily destructive and terrible event, I expected a little bit more then just "ohh, we have a giant upright facing colony in the landscape now."
@TheAmericanEmperor that may all depend on different factors like at what depth of acceleration was the colony at on impact, or...something. guess i never really thought about it lol but it's true, Op:British and the beginning of the After War calender in Gundam X depicted colony drops to virtually be nuclear bombs detonating at the very least. guess this change was a good way to get the cast of ZZ to see a drop first hand without getting killed off themselves.
This is the second point in the story when I realized that ZZ was getting good. I still get the goosebumps every time I see that phallic symbol fall on dear Dublin.
The kind of speed for an asteroid is about 47000 mph. Something tells me this colony is not moving that fast; its probably moving at 500mph max, since its only really being "dropped".
The kind of speed for an asteroid is about 47000 mph. Something tells me this colony is not moving that fast; probably 500mph max since its only really being "dropped".
There's one thing that I don't understand in Gundam, is that how come they don't terratransform and colonise planets. Instead, they concentrate on building Colonies that God knows how long they would last.
@DarthFanta you need to watch more uc gundam to understand. you see...planets belongs to the earth federations government. space colonies are independent.
@DarthFanta@DarthFanta you need to watch more uc gundam to understand. you see, terraformed and colonized planets already belongs to the earth federations. while the space colonies are not because they are independent sort of nation of their own.
@DarthFanta Because humans in UC do not yet possess the ability to leave the solar system. This leaves Mars (and arguably also Venus) as only the planet similar enough to Earth to merit colonization, and there's already colonization going there. Then there's this weird belief permeating the UC timeline that states humanity as being spiritually stuck to Earth's gravity. It's also a common argument for colonists use when rationalizing their terrorist acts.
@GalacticNinja I was using what I thought was DarthFanta's definition of colonization-- to live on the planet itself with the possibility of terraforming it. Sorry if I was not clear on that, since I've never once heard that the Federation had terraformed a planet. Although @rematche seems to think they exist in the UC timeline.
@IamMeHere2See Oh, I didn't realize you actually meant the Federation. Also, the Federation terraforming a planet? I find that hilarious. They hardly leave the earth except for really one purpose and that's raging war. They're more concerned about the colonies that surround earth than some other planet. Unless the EARTH Federation can some how use a planet for power gain, which I doubt they'd have the balls for since their souls are weighed down by Earth's gravity. :'3
@GalacticNinja The Federation was principally established for the creation and population of colonies, so it's not impractical to think that they would be at the fore when it comes to establishing colonies on Mars. Now I did hear somewhere, in a manga or light novel, that Neo Zeon forces had begun to colonize the red planet, but I'm only counting anime examples.
It would be impossible to establish a terrestrial colony actually ON Jupiter, since are far as we know it has no solid surface to land on. The only celestial body that would be worse for humans to live on is the sun. As for the other reasons, Mars is a cold place that receives very little sunlight. Venus was only considered because it's closest in size to Earth, but its day cycle (1 V-Day = 243 E-Days) and weather make it impractical to colonize.
Judau is the opposite of Kamille...... Judau has an opptimist look on life.... while Kamille is a pessimistic view on life......
Probably because Juadu has Roux, Elle and Puru who are fighting for his love, while Kamille only has Fa..... Maybe thats why Kamille is pessimistic! lol
@TheAmericanEmperor hot motherfucking damn boy i knew i was a fan an all but shit that was like the true nerd fandom right there great job then again i have to take in account i suck at math so but still man fuckin awsome
I remember groaning in agony over this scene. I liked ZZ Gundam, but when the colony hit the ground, it just sort of stuck there! Squashed a few buildings, and made some pretty lights, but IT JUST STUCK IN THE GROUND! I was facedesking for days!
@TheAmericanEmperor true, they had a team of people to make sure it was correct in the original (be it only a few people) but operation british was a verry realistic depiction of what a colony drop may be, this... i dont know how they messed this up
He had a frail mentality... A complex simply because his parents named him wrong, and of course... What Scirroco did to him, yeah... I'd say he's pretty much done here. And trying to recover to that scene you see on the last episode was all he could do since then.
hmm, maybe it was a just a failed colony drop lol, my only explanation is that since Judau was so close to the drop area, the directors didnt want to kill him off so the lessened the drop by applying a plot shield. the same way shinn should have killed kira but in some way, kira managed to hit the shut off button for his nuclear reactor.
well you are correct, but lets review, if the colony crashed and exploded like in the OYW then it owuld create such explosion, but this one mearly crashed into the earth, thus is far less damage. please correct me if I am wrong.
it's also "cute" how Gundam ZZ even shares some of the same music as Zeta Gundam. ZZ truly does seem lik a second season of Zeta than its own series sometimes!
In Gundam X, many colonies were dropped at once reducing Earth's population from over several billion to just 98 million, caused a 7 year nuclear winter, and brought on new diseases.
Gundam SEED Destiny was very similar with the pieces of the colony dropping like pieces of meteor.
It isn't a giant pipe bomb: all the damage comes from the force of the drop. It isn't meant to explode: it's meant to decimate everything from the massive drop. So no, there wasn't supposed to be an explosion.
Yea but I think the momentum would also make it collapse on itself. And if meteor strikes are any comparison the force of the impact would have obliterated it. Kinda like a car running into a wall except with ALOT more force.
haha oh man well then if there wasn't MEANT to be an explosion, then Gundam movie III was VERY hyperbolic when it showed its colony drop impact---looked like a nuke hit the planet or something!
Shouldn't the colony have exploded when it hit the ground? Unless it was carefully lowering itself at just a few dozen miles an hour it should have gone up in a huge fireball.
Retconned.... Somethin gelse I just learned, wow, pretty shnitty,,,,, I just saw the series, my interpretation was that he died in combat, but ok coma ftw
Y'know... For some reason, it never clicked that this was history repeating itself. In the original MS Gundam, in the prologue, a colony is dropped on Earth by the original Zeon forces.
wait... even if there isnt a huge explosion, i expect a shockwave, tsunami, gust of wind or some soft to appear @@ not someone still standing on their feet and stare at it... and the cloud should have gone too XD
Even for 1985 standards they really could've done better. Hell, Zeta Gundam had some wicked explosions -- like when the Raddish exploded and wiped out Jerid Mesa.
the BGM is??
jlovem1314 1 month ago
codex astartes names this maneuver steel rain....
ZKoftherebellion 1 month ago
Okay This makes no sense? The entire British Island should have been decimated.
Salvysahagun 1 month ago
wait...that was it?
brokenbones199 1 month ago
weird, always imagined colony drops more devastating from the way they were talked of in the awakening/escalation/confrontation novels.
ZKoftherebellion 1 month ago
@TheAmericanEmperor Are all colonies the same size, though?
BeavisRevolution 2 months ago
Dublin? Were there multiple successful colony drops? I thought the only successful drop hit Sidney.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001 There were three, I believe. Sidney during the OYW, North American plains during Operation Stardust in 0083, and then Dublin during Operation British in 0087.
SploraDorali 2 months ago
@SploraDorali Yeah, I found out since posting the question that this is the case. Just to keep the story line straight, though, Operation British was the OYW Sidney drop. Dublin was from a spin-off series covering the First Neo-Zeon War.
I'm just starting to watch some of these other Gundam series so this stuff is brand new to me. I grew up when 0079 was the only Gundam series in town.
mazerrackham001 2 months ago
@mazerrackham001 I actually just realized that after I posted, just forgot what was what and put British and Dublin in one group. Thanks for the catch there.
I wouldn't really call ZZ a spin-off more so than a sequel, just to clarify that a little.
SploraDorali 2 months ago
@mazerrackham001
You forgot the colony drop in North America (0083) and Luna 5th fall in Lhasa (Char's), even if that wasn't a colony.
kgw72 1 month ago
@mazerrackham001 Sydney was not a succesful colony drop it missed it's target by an entire ocean.
Luminahawke 1 month ago
RIP Australia
shweeeen1 4 months ago
1:31 WTF! BOOM
darkjediMIK 4 months ago
@TheAmericanEmperor
true
in 0083 Stardust Memories there is a scene showing colony fragments that are hundreds of meters long scattered on the plain of North America which is the impact site. But this is wrong. There shouldn't be any large fragments left after impact as most of the colony will vaporize together with the materials on the ground.
The destruction brought by a colony will be no less than an asteroid impact. The Gundam series definitively have underestimated the devastation.
RNAinterference 5 months ago
@RNAinterference this anime was made in the 80ies lol the writers aren't nuclear scientist. Can't expect them to depict it accurately, especially when they never seen an actual colony drop or something of that scale.
icunow1 4 months ago
It may not be the massively destructive colony drop we were expecting, but I do actually kind of like how the colony stays in one piece after it landed. It made for a neat looking setting during the Psyco Gundam Mk II fight in the next episode.
LelouchVsGundam 5 months ago
That was a bit....anticlimatic. Given the way they talked about the colony dropping in the MSG: Awakening/escalation/confrontation novels as such a heavily destructive and terrible event, I expected a little bit more then just "ohh, we have a giant upright facing colony in the landscape now."
ZKoftherebellion 9 months ago
@TheAmericanEmperor that may all depend on different factors like at what depth of acceleration was the colony at on impact, or...something. guess i never really thought about it lol but it's true, Op:British and the beginning of the After War calender in Gundam X depicted colony drops to virtually be nuclear bombs detonating at the very least. guess this change was a good way to get the cast of ZZ to see a drop first hand without getting killed off themselves.
frozenray0079 10 months ago
This is the second point in the story when I realized that ZZ was getting good. I still get the goosebumps every time I see that phallic symbol fall on dear Dublin.
IamMeHere2See 10 months ago
@TheAmericanEmperor Understatement of the century. the first colony drop should have all but destroyed the entire planet.
FoAmY99 11 months ago
the kuybi could have destroyed it better.
TheLordmewtwo 1 year ago
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The kind of speed for an asteroid is about 47000 mph. Something tells me this colony is not moving that fast; its probably moving at 500mph max, since its only really being "dropped".
lvondas 1 year ago
The kind of speed for an asteroid is about 47000 mph. Something tells me this colony is not moving that fast; probably 500mph max since its only really being "dropped".
lvondas 1 year ago
And to think the first half of ZZ was just comedy. Talk about a mood whiplash.
nepomusik 1 year ago
There's one thing that I don't understand in Gundam, is that how come they don't terratransform and colonise planets. Instead, they concentrate on building Colonies that God knows how long they would last.
DarthFanta 1 year ago
@DarthFanta you need to watch more uc gundam to understand. you see...planets belongs to the earth federations government. space colonies are independent.
rematche 1 year ago
@DarthFanta @DarthFanta you need to watch more uc gundam to understand. you see, terraformed and colonized planets already belongs to the earth federations. while the space colonies are not because they are independent sort of nation of their own.
rematche 1 year ago
@DarthFanta Because humans in UC do not yet possess the ability to leave the solar system. This leaves Mars (and arguably also Venus) as only the planet similar enough to Earth to merit colonization, and there's already colonization going there. Then there's this weird belief permeating the UC timeline that states humanity as being spiritually stuck to Earth's gravity. It's also a common argument for colonists use when rationalizing their terrorist acts.
IamMeHere2See 10 months ago
@IamMeHere2See
You forgot about Jupiter. Though, I'm unsure if they actually have a colony on the planet itself, or if the colonies are around the rings.
GalacticNinja 10 months ago
@GalacticNinja I was using what I thought was DarthFanta's definition of colonization-- to live on the planet itself with the possibility of terraforming it. Sorry if I was not clear on that, since I've never once heard that the Federation had terraformed a planet. Although @rematche seems to think they exist in the UC timeline.
IamMeHere2See 10 months ago
@IamMeHere2See Oh, I didn't realize you actually meant the Federation. Also, the Federation terraforming a planet? I find that hilarious. They hardly leave the earth except for really one purpose and that's raging war. They're more concerned about the colonies that surround earth than some other planet. Unless the EARTH Federation can some how use a planet for power gain, which I doubt they'd have the balls for since their souls are weighed down by Earth's gravity. :'3
GalacticNinja 10 months ago
@GalacticNinja The Federation was principally established for the creation and population of colonies, so it's not impractical to think that they would be at the fore when it comes to establishing colonies on Mars. Now I did hear somewhere, in a manga or light novel, that Neo Zeon forces had begun to colonize the red planet, but I'm only counting anime examples.
IamMeHere2See 10 months ago
@GalacticNinja
It would be impossible to establish a terrestrial colony actually ON Jupiter, since are far as we know it has no solid surface to land on. The only celestial body that would be worse for humans to live on is the sun. As for the other reasons, Mars is a cold place that receives very little sunlight. Venus was only considered because it's closest in size to Earth, but its day cycle (1 V-Day = 243 E-Days) and weather make it impractical to colonize.
IamMeHere2See 10 months ago
In Gundam X they had 10 colony drops on earth in one day. The human race was almost instinct.
lemmehaviet 1 year ago
Judau is the opposite of Kamille...... Judau has an opptimist look on life.... while Kamille is a pessimistic view on life......
Probably because Juadu has Roux, Elle and Puru who are fighting for his love, while Kamille only has Fa..... Maybe thats why Kamille is pessimistic! lol
Mortskcab 1 year ago 5
i expected something more like what happened in australia with operation british. then again, this colony wasn't catapulted from the moon.
Red9san 1 year ago
A Big Colony Fell on 1:25
walz13 1 year ago
Was Australia not enough!?
commandervulkan 1 year ago
The cowardly villains of the Gundam Multiverse sure love doing colony drops, huh?
SpiritDragonSD 1 year ago
@SpiritDragonSD The Earth had been struck by giant colonies several times. I cannot believe that it still exist in Gundam Unicorn Series XD XD XD
paladinmsv 1 year ago
@TheAmericanEmperor hot motherfucking damn boy i knew i was a fan an all but shit that was like the true nerd fandom right there great job then again i have to take in account i suck at math so but still man fuckin awsome
gundamUC79 1 year ago
@TheAmericanEmperor
It's Gundam, and it was some decades ago, obviously the explosion would be MUCH worse.
TheOrkutGuy 1 year ago
I remember groaning in agony over this scene. I liked ZZ Gundam, but when the colony hit the ground, it just sort of stuck there! Squashed a few buildings, and made some pretty lights, but IT JUST STUCK IN THE GROUND! I was facedesking for days!
IzackN 1 year ago
@IzackN
Now that's what I call solid construction!
IamMeHere2See 10 months ago
@TheAmericanEmperor true, they had a team of people to make sure it was correct in the original (be it only a few people) but operation british was a verry realistic depiction of what a colony drop may be, this... i dont know how they messed this up
wikikomoto 1 year ago
Great scene; one of the best in ZZ.
On another note, Rakan was the man.
Ginga 1 year ago
1:25
Holy shit...
Crossroadsinc 1 year ago
what is it with gundam and destroying the Earth with colony drop? How many time they gonna drop those things on poor Earth?
yepdrinker 1 year ago
@TheAmericanEmperor You're probably right.
But if you'll allow me to theorycraft a little, that colony doesn't seem as large, in comparison to the buildings anyway.
The one that wiped out the midwest from operation stardust and british seemed a lot larger.
formula90II 1 year ago
colony drop should be fast. oh well the wonder of 80`s animes phew.
chaniey01 1 year ago
i like seed colony drop better than this suoer bullshit colony it should be fast due to gravity and atmospheric pressure.
chaniey01 1 year ago
bullshit if the colony is dropped it will fast not slow..
chaniey01 2 years ago
holy shit O.O
geass1928 2 years ago
I felt so sorry for Kamille in this scene, I almost cried with happiness at the end of the series when him and Fa were playing on the beach.
Brunzal 2 years ago
And I thought I was the only one who almost cried at that....that he finally got his "Happy Ending"
OptimusGinrai 2 years ago
kamiyu pisses me off, i wish he'd be mentally stronger.
if he had participated more and not grief like a lil pussy
amuro is the real man, shit happens, get emo for a bit, man-up and back on to the battlefield and take actions
gabe228 2 years ago
kamille got his mind fried, what do u expect?
freedomdst 2 years ago 15
yea but he recovered eventually
gabe228 2 years ago
@freedomdst
No Kidding...
He had a frail mentality... A complex simply because his parents named him wrong, and of course... What Scirroco did to him, yeah... I'd say he's pretty much done here. And trying to recover to that scene you see on the last episode was all he could do since then.
davedetrick 2 years ago
@gabe228
His mind got mashed by scirocco's power burst, you would too if some weird creep did that to you...
PawPawTheKittyCat 1 year ago
Indeed. That colony should've at least collapsed in on itself or something.
notaphaser 2 years ago
All I can think of is "you're next Kai"
Destinyfire0 2 years ago
Kai survived everything. the only thing he and Sayla got was a nice case of Survivors Guilt
HavenKhaos 2 years ago
THIS IS NOT DELICIOUS
sandman189 2 years ago
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belgurdo 2 years ago
I just think it's another joke from the series, a joke that may have only made sense to the director during the time he was making this.
darksword101 2 years ago
hmm, maybe it was a just a failed colony drop lol, my only explanation is that since Judau was so close to the drop area, the directors didnt want to kill him off so the lessened the drop by applying a plot shield. the same way shinn should have killed kira but in some way, kira managed to hit the shut off button for his nuclear reactor.
omegax05 2 years ago
well you are correct, but lets review, if the colony crashed and exploded like in the OYW then it owuld create such explosion, but this one mearly crashed into the earth, thus is far less damage. please correct me if I am wrong.
omegax05 2 years ago 2
This shit happened in Mega Man X5, and they STILL had to kill Sigma. Also, Zero died twice.
Stavekoff 2 years ago
why did just kinda come out of the clouds and land on the ground lightly? Wasn't very convincing..
Sarcastichandreader 2 years ago
I think it's one of the series jokes.
darksword101 2 years ago
it's also "cute" how Gundam ZZ even shares some of the same music as Zeta Gundam. ZZ truly does seem lik a second season of Zeta than its own series sometimes!
frozenray0079 2 years ago 2
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the creator of gundam himself said that zz gundam is STILL cannon while the new zeta movies are not
Mortskcab 2 years ago
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Mortskcab 2 years ago
In Gundam X, many colonies were dropped at once reducing Earth's population from over several billion to just 98 million, caused a 7 year nuclear winter, and brought on new diseases.
Gundam SEED Destiny was very similar with the pieces of the colony dropping like pieces of meteor.
AdmiralCecil 2 years ago
yeah that's true i remember!
frozenray0079 2 years ago
@AdmiralCecil actualy gundam seed destiny colony drop is more realistic than all colony drops from other gundam series.
chaniey01 1 year ago
It isn't a giant pipe bomb: all the damage comes from the force of the drop. It isn't meant to explode: it's meant to decimate everything from the massive drop. So no, there wasn't supposed to be an explosion.
KingNaesala 2 years ago 2
Yea but I think the momentum would also make it collapse on itself. And if meteor strikes are any comparison the force of the impact would have obliterated it. Kinda like a car running into a wall except with ALOT more force.
jroy1119 2 years ago
Well, parts'll come off eventually. That's how Australia lost 17% of its land mass.
KingNaesala 2 years ago 2
haha oh man well then if there wasn't MEANT to be an explosion, then Gundam movie III was VERY hyperbolic when it showed its colony drop impact---looked like a nuke hit the planet or something!
frozenray0079 2 years ago
Huh, I imagined that the colony drop would've been more... explosive.
SirDawkinsthemad 2 years ago
Shouldn't the colony have exploded when it hit the ground? Unless it was carefully lowering itself at just a few dozen miles an hour it should have gone up in a huge fireball.
WUZLE 2 years ago
Pretty dumb. Then again, that's why ZZ was retconned.
MadGeneral 2 years ago
fail!
phongbong 2 years ago
Wait when did kamille come out of that coma
Nick3889 2 years ago
I never saw ZZ, I thought he died in the first zeta at the end of the series,,,,, learn something new every day.
bassx101 2 years ago
kamille's "death" was retconned with the release of the new zeta films
instead of falling into a comma(or killing himself if you read the books)
he falls in love with fa and they live happily ever after.
Anvilpants 2 years ago
Retconned.... Somethin gelse I just learned, wow, pretty shnitty,,,,, I just saw the series, my interpretation was that he died in combat, but ok coma ftw
bassx101 2 years ago
lol puru's face!
bigjim247365 2 years ago
I lol'd.
No shit, Bright.
FabulousCow 2 years ago
It fell.
xX20AxFreedomx 2 years ago 2
ware du u find these episode's i wane see this series
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Destinyfire0 2 years ago
Y'know... For some reason, it never clicked that this was history repeating itself. In the original MS Gundam, in the prologue, a colony is dropped on Earth by the original Zeon forces.
Moulinoski 2 years ago
wait... even if there isnt a huge explosion, i expect a shockwave, tsunami, gust of wind or some soft to appear @@ not someone still standing on their feet and stare at it... and the cloud should have gone too XD
XerosXIII 2 years ago
There is a huge shockwave, I guess it's delayed or something, you see it in the next episode.
And I think Kamille is far far away from where it took place.
Darkiver 2 years ago
I dare anyone to watch this scene and then claim Gundam ZZ is a comedy.
The series stops putting comedy first in episode 20, dammit.
FurnaxIkki 2 years ago
I don't know. The colony standing like a giant lawn dart is still pretty funny, if not the way it was intended.
DaImpAtom 2 years ago
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Kamille recovered?? what episode is this?
SaitohYatate 2 years ago
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what episode? is this
spoonslap 3 years ago
A colony that size falling on Dublin at orbital velocity should wipe out most of the British Isles.
samfromportadown 3 years ago 2
Even for 1985 standards they really could've done better. Hell, Zeta Gundam had some wicked explosions -- like when the Raddish exploded and wiped out Jerid Mesa.
SH2K9 3 years ago
I thought it would have been better looking than that. I was expecting a nuke like explosion.
gundamredframe 3 years ago 4
Fucking Corkonians and their plans...
they won't beat us...
We have umbrellas.
DartzIRL 3 years ago
Well,I don't think Dublin's the capital anymore after that.
methenium 3 years ago 3
Across the Sea of Stars ftw. (the BGM used in this scene)
Blaaaaat23 4 years ago 2
can you post when Hayato was killed
Shadowhunterhq 4 years ago
Agreed. I've seen more explosive Bright Slaps.
browniesmash 4 years ago 2
yeah but bright does have some pretty wicked slaps to his name
RainbowPWNAGE 3 years ago
Agreed, but I think Lt. Emma would give Bright a run for his money for the title of "Slap Master".
SH2K9 3 years ago
Well that was kinda anti-climatic. It just falls on the city like a dart with no explosion? Where's my operation British explosion?
bigred2989 4 years ago 3
...there was an explosion
roothands 4 years ago 2