@Drakedog777 be specific, what is incorrect or you have no leg to stand on and are making more bs to sidestep the issues touch guy. I know what would have you whining -- a brand right to the face.
Okay, I watched this video, and countless other videos about what goes on in the factory. Based on all the "research" I have done, I will not quit eating meat, but I would definitely be more apt to raise my own. Not everyone can do this because of so many people in the world that need to be fed, hence, the factories. It would just make more sense to me to raise our own livestock if you can. It would probably cost as much as all the "organic" foods in the grocery stores lol.
@TheAnimadey that the lamest excuse i have EVER heard.....Ever! omg! hope you have a massive heart attack after u kill your dinner, put the pipe down!
After this, I will not reply to anything you say, because you have shown me you are an extremely hateful person.
But, I will say this: did you know that every plant you cut or pull from the ground screams? There have been studies, and perhaps you should look them up. This vegetarian/omnivore conflict is all just hypocritical bullshit. To eat, you must kill. That is the way of life for millions of years.
@TheAnimadey okay if you care for plants (more than mammals like us too) you would go vegan! It takes more plants to make meat - every 10lbs of corn/grain fed to chickens or pigs only gives 1lb of flesh in return, which is why it could also reduce world hunger too. Very bad reason, its in my interview segment of this video. The only good excuse is you are addicted or like meat - but honestly of course child molesters have similar reasons. Regardless factory farms are sick.
@TheAnimadey you are weak! you are the prey, you are the catcher not the pitcher, you probably got raped by an animal and now you date one, you god damn bestiality addict
@TheAnimadey thats much more reasonable than the plant crap i read above...and at least you did research. Reducing helps, hunting or family farm/raising yourself if able is much better although all is unncessary today imo.
Jesus was a white male and god is portrayed as a man like figure lol, sounds sexist. I read the bibles and are full of crap, war, discrimination and violence. Jesus existed but really a nice hippie activist human.
Many Dieticians (ie: veganhealth dotorg), Drs and Athletes (look up videos) are for Vegan, many of us have lived and researched it for years. Its funny how some teenagers come here like they know more than those who do it. I am a Pilot, do you plan to tell me how to do my job next? My good friend is an Engineer - are you going to tell him how to do that? Just admit that you are wrong and change or dont and remain a selfish addict. Its simple, eating and wearing animals in 2012 is unncessary
The best and only true excuse is "You like meat" like a drug addict. Im sure child molesters/rapists have the same selfish excuses. Natural? Try it Raw-attack a dog, rat, bear or road kill-rip it appart and eat all the organs! Wierd is sucking down baby cow milk (or any animal milk-cat, rat, dog, goat) as adult humans. Unnatural, when you fatties grow up and have a heart attack, colon cancer-flesh rotting in your long intestines=karma. My hand can make a fist-doest mean I should beat up people
@veggiewarriors I am much more concerned with the TORTURED factory farm animals fed to them just a bit more, since the cats are healthy and have a nice life. If they dont like it they can be wild feral cats and hunt, but I dont value one life over another. Not my cats either, girlfriends, but some vets approve if done right. VeganVet (dot) net, VegetarianDogs dotcom and VeganCats dotnet for info.
That's true. Besides dogs and cats from animal shelters are purchased by the meat industry for use in farm animal feed anyway, so it makes sense that you wouldn't want your pet to help sustain that cycle of violence against their fellow kind and even other innocent species.
Thanks for the website info. And your cat is lovely!
@VeganMotorcyclePilot I am a meat eater and respect your choice of a vegan diet but animals have their place in the the world of testing and eating without them medical research would be at a total stand still and you cant expect the world to conform to a vegan lifestyle it just wont happen . I wanted to through something out to you what about eating insects they are almost all protean and very little fat it takes very little resources to cultivate them
@ld1000xx hey, I can agree that medical research is a bit more complicated and it probably does help with some advancement. However, we continually test for remedial things like makeup and such. Also if it could be that dangerous I would not want to use it as a product. The other issue is treatment, maybe after a few tests retire them and give a decent retirement rather than endless cruel experiments, caged in tiny quarters until death. For flesh, protein isnt an issue for vegans whatsoever.
@ld1000xx also, true the entire world will probably not go vegan in our lifetimes, but the less suffering the better. Its not all or nothing, even if everyone that didnt go veg cut back and didnt eat so many animals. The cops cannot stop every crime, doesnt mean they shouldn't try to stop as many as they can. I think with education more will go veg, someday we may not have a choice with our evergrowing human population all the resources wasted, will only lead to more hunger too.
@VeganMotorcyclePilot so do you think eating insects is a bad thing? do you consider them like animals pain ect... and i was wondering are for or against peta i mean they kill when they say dont kill?
@VeganMotorcyclePilot i wasn't sure if bugs were considered animals or not? i think even if they are they are so small and insignificant in the comparason of a cat or dog next to microorganisms they are the most abundant creatures on earth it takes a 10th of the resources to produce one pound of insects then it does a pound or cow they are very very low in fat and high in protene
I served in the PEACE CORPS helping with humanitarian issues: Boys + Girls Clubs, Camp Easter Seal, Food Banks/Food not Bombs, habitat for humanity... Ive Donated $10,000's to UNICEF (take note religious people-stop giving to Church-biggest charity) and Animal/Vegan groups like MFA that benefits humans alot-they are connected. Leaving animals alone helps our health/care, planet, Billions of abused Mammals, reduces World Hunger alot-every 10lbs corn/grains given to chicken only gives 1lb flesh!
Without neolithic revolution (10.000 years ago) vegan will not able to get enough proteins, iron because only after this revolution people able to grow enough nut, legume (soy), grains.
And how about vitamin B12?
Plants feel - sense pain, when you cut plant, it release stress hormones like animal does and because plants don't have central nervous system, doesn't mean they don't feel pain.
I don't understand why vegan try to justify against omnivores?
@liutasx here we go again lol. Plants, do your really think a mammal as yourself then suffers the same as a plant? Also as stated, it takes more plants to make meat, animals are fed about 10lbs of corn/grains to produce just 1lb of flesh on ave. Also, many plants are not killed such as harvesting veggies or fruit from a tree it doesnt kill it even. Can't believe I am even justifying it. Yes,I agree 10,000 years ago we probably had a need, unlike today. Protein and iron are easy to get via veg
I will not offend you, because you are vegan and i respect that.
I understand that other meat-eaters trying to insult vegans, because they think that vegan is somehow inferior. Vegans also is fighting back by insulting meat-eater and etc. This is close circle of hatred and we need to break it.
World hunger (WH).
Search "Our world has 1 billion hungry, 1.5 billion overweight: Red Cross report"
WH exist because of inefficient distribution of food.
@liutasx that is reasonable, I agree world hunger also exists because of lack of distribution as well as waste. I dont care to discuss the plants anymore, that would include cutting the lawn, paper, houses...as stated, we consume less plants on a vegan diet though. Meat is unncessary today though and I do value mammals over plants.
Human have brains that enable us to grow food e.g plant and animal and this removing need to hunt animals or search for plants. Maybe in future we don't need to do even that
Suffer.
If you want to live, you need eat and to do that you need to kill other life forms. This mean that by eating you force to suffer other life forms.
Sorry for mistakes my English isn't first language.
And you are nervous on this video, see on your left leg? ;)
@liutasx we justify? We have no need to torture billions of mammals in sick factory farms for selfish desires. As stated in the video if you want meat at least hunt for it and eat it raw then. Continued...
If suffering depends on the actions of a central nervous system, would you consider it an end of their suffering if we genetically engineered livestock that lacked that system? What if instead, they were kept anesthetized their whole life? Would that be an end to their suffering?
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Why do you keep that animal enslaved to you? You terrorist.
realericx 2 weeks ago
and what bitch
H3MaS11 3 weeks ago
I don't see an argument here, just some whining and bitching.
Drakedog777 3 weeks ago
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AnimalAbusingLosers3 3 weeks ago
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@Drakedog777 be specific, what is incorrect or you have no leg to stand on and are making more bs to sidestep the issues touch guy. I know what would have you whining -- a brand right to the face.
AnimalAbusingLosers3 3 weeks ago
@AnimalAbusingLosers3
you must be drunk
Drakedog777 3 weeks ago
stupid vegan tree huger cunt
H3MaS11 4 weeks ago
@H3MaS11 immature, ignorant, simple minded, selfish, animal abuser.
AnimalAbusingLosers3 3 weeks ago
Okay, I watched this video, and countless other videos about what goes on in the factory. Based on all the "research" I have done, I will not quit eating meat, but I would definitely be more apt to raise my own. Not everyone can do this because of so many people in the world that need to be fed, hence, the factories. It would just make more sense to me to raise our own livestock if you can. It would probably cost as much as all the "organic" foods in the grocery stores lol.
TheAnimadey 1 month ago
@TheAnimadey that the lamest excuse i have EVER heard.....Ever! omg! hope you have a massive heart attack after u kill your dinner, put the pipe down!
gmcz73 1 month ago
@gmcz73 Wow. Put the pipe down? lol Really?!
After this, I will not reply to anything you say, because you have shown me you are an extremely hateful person.
But, I will say this: did you know that every plant you cut or pull from the ground screams? There have been studies, and perhaps you should look them up. This vegetarian/omnivore conflict is all just hypocritical bullshit. To eat, you must kill. That is the way of life for millions of years.
TheAnimadey 1 month ago
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@TheAnimadey okay if you care for plants (more than mammals like us too) you would go vegan! It takes more plants to make meat - every 10lbs of corn/grain fed to chickens or pigs only gives 1lb of flesh in return, which is why it could also reduce world hunger too. Very bad reason, its in my interview segment of this video. The only good excuse is you are addicted or like meat - but honestly of course child molesters have similar reasons. Regardless factory farms are sick.
AnimalAbusingLosers3 3 weeks ago
@TheAnimadey you are weak! you are the prey, you are the catcher not the pitcher, you probably got raped by an animal and now you date one, you god damn bestiality addict
H3MaS11 3 weeks ago
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TheAnimadey 3 weeks ago
@H3MaS11
Wait. Um. What? That statement made absolutely no sense...
How does me raising my own food make me a "bestiality addict"?
TheAnimadey 3 weeks ago
@TheAnimadey thats much more reasonable than the plant crap i read above...and at least you did research. Reducing helps, hunting or family farm/raising yourself if able is much better although all is unncessary today imo.
AnimalAbusingLosers3 3 weeks ago
Jesus was a white male and god is portrayed as a man like figure lol, sounds sexist. I read the bibles and are full of crap, war, discrimination and violence. Jesus existed but really a nice hippie activist human.
VeganMotorcyclePilot 1 month ago
Many Dieticians (ie: veganhealth dotorg), Drs and Athletes (look up videos) are for Vegan, many of us have lived and researched it for years. Its funny how some teenagers come here like they know more than those who do it. I am a Pilot, do you plan to tell me how to do my job next? My good friend is an Engineer - are you going to tell him how to do that? Just admit that you are wrong and change or dont and remain a selfish addict. Its simple, eating and wearing animals in 2012 is unncessary
VeganAnimalPromoters 1 month ago
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The best and only true excuse is "You like meat" like a drug addict. Im sure child molesters/rapists have the same selfish excuses. Natural? Try it Raw-attack a dog, rat, bear or road kill-rip it appart and eat all the organs! Wierd is sucking down baby cow milk (or any animal milk-cat, rat, dog, goat) as adult humans. Unnatural, when you fatties grow up and have a heart attack, colon cancer-flesh rotting in your long intestines=karma. My hand can make a fist-doest mean I should beat up people
VeganAnimalPromoters 1 month ago
Do you wonder whether you're frustrating your beautiful cat's natural instincts to eat other animals by restricting him/her to a vegan diet as well?
veggiewarriors 2 months ago
@veggiewarriors I am much more concerned with the TORTURED factory farm animals fed to them just a bit more, since the cats are healthy and have a nice life. If they dont like it they can be wild feral cats and hunt, but I dont value one life over another. Not my cats either, girlfriends, but some vets approve if done right. VeganVet (dot) net, VegetarianDogs dotcom and VeganCats dotnet for info.
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot
That's true. Besides dogs and cats from animal shelters are purchased by the meat industry for use in farm animal feed anyway, so it makes sense that you wouldn't want your pet to help sustain that cycle of violence against their fellow kind and even other innocent species.
Thanks for the website info. And your cat is lovely!
veggiewarriors 2 months ago
@veggiewarriors :)
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot I am a meat eater and respect your choice of a vegan diet but animals have their place in the the world of testing and eating without them medical research would be at a total stand still and you cant expect the world to conform to a vegan lifestyle it just wont happen . I wanted to through something out to you what about eating insects they are almost all protean and very little fat it takes very little resources to cultivate them
ld1000xx 2 months ago
@ld1000xx hey, I can agree that medical research is a bit more complicated and it probably does help with some advancement. However, we continually test for remedial things like makeup and such. Also if it could be that dangerous I would not want to use it as a product. The other issue is treatment, maybe after a few tests retire them and give a decent retirement rather than endless cruel experiments, caged in tiny quarters until death. For flesh, protein isnt an issue for vegans whatsoever.
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
@ld1000xx also, true the entire world will probably not go vegan in our lifetimes, but the less suffering the better. Its not all or nothing, even if everyone that didnt go veg cut back and didnt eat so many animals. The cops cannot stop every crime, doesnt mean they shouldn't try to stop as many as they can. I think with education more will go veg, someday we may not have a choice with our evergrowing human population all the resources wasted, will only lead to more hunger too.
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot so do you think eating insects is a bad thing? do you consider them like animals pain ect... and i was wondering are for or against peta i mean they kill when they say dont kill?
ld1000xx 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot i wasn't sure if bugs were considered animals or not? i think even if they are they are so small and insignificant in the comparason of a cat or dog next to microorganisms they are the most abundant creatures on earth it takes a 10th of the resources to produce one pound of insects then it does a pound or cow they are very very low in fat and high in protene
ld1000xx 2 months ago
I served in the PEACE CORPS helping with humanitarian issues: Boys + Girls Clubs, Camp Easter Seal, Food Banks/Food not Bombs, habitat for humanity... Ive Donated $10,000's to UNICEF (take note religious people-stop giving to Church-biggest charity) and Animal/Vegan groups like MFA that benefits humans alot-they are connected. Leaving animals alone helps our health/care, planet, Billions of abused Mammals, reduces World Hunger alot-every 10lbs corn/grains given to chicken only gives 1lb flesh!
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
Have you ever got the comment, "Man didn't to the top of the food chain to eat tofu!"
That one hurts, especially when your friends say it to you
TheBEATLEnumber5 2 months ago
Without neolithic revolution (10.000 years ago) vegan will not able to get enough proteins, iron because only after this revolution people able to grow enough nut, legume (soy), grains.
And how about vitamin B12?
Plants feel - sense pain, when you cut plant, it release stress hormones like animal does and because plants don't have central nervous system, doesn't mean they don't feel pain.
I don't understand why vegan try to justify against omnivores?
liutasx 2 months ago
@liutasx here we go again lol. Plants, do your really think a mammal as yourself then suffers the same as a plant? Also as stated, it takes more plants to make meat, animals are fed about 10lbs of corn/grains to produce just 1lb of flesh on ave. Also, many plants are not killed such as harvesting veggies or fruit from a tree it doesnt kill it even. Can't believe I am even justifying it. Yes,I agree 10,000 years ago we probably had a need, unlike today. Protein and iron are easy to get via veg
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot
I want to have productive discussion and that feelings don't it blanket out. Do you also want such discussion?
First i want to say that i have extensive experience discussing with vegans.
Pain.
That is pain?
You have stated that plants don't have CNS and because of that they don't feel pain.
And now you are talking about thinking that other animals suffer, but not as plants.
Does you are thinking that plants is somehow inferior life form to animals?
liutasx 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot
I will not offend you, because you are vegan and i respect that.
I understand that other meat-eaters trying to insult vegans, because they think that vegan is somehow inferior. Vegans also is fighting back by insulting meat-eater and etc. This is close circle of hatred and we need to break it.
World hunger (WH).
Search "Our world has 1 billion hungry, 1.5 billion overweight: Red Cross report"
WH exist because of inefficient distribution of food.
liutasx 2 months ago
@liutasx that is reasonable, I agree world hunger also exists because of lack of distribution as well as waste. I dont care to discuss the plants anymore, that would include cutting the lawn, paper, houses...as stated, we consume less plants on a vegan diet though. Meat is unncessary today though and I do value mammals over plants.
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot
Killing and torturing life for eating
Omnivores also don't kill animal when drinking milk or eating eggs or dairy products.
Vegs aren't killing all plant that they eat, but still kills plants when they eat e.g carrots, cabbage and etc.
Plants growing industry also torture plants by spraying on them pesticides, herbicides, fungicides. Plant is cultivated in very thigh spaces.
liutasx 2 months ago
@VeganMotorcyclePilot
Hunting animals
Human have brains that enable us to grow food e.g plant and animal and this removing need to hunt animals or search for plants. Maybe in future we don't need to do even that
Suffer.
If you want to live, you need eat and to do that you need to kill other life forms. This mean that by eating you force to suffer other life forms.
Sorry for mistakes my English isn't first language.
And you are nervous on this video, see on your left leg? ;)
liutasx 2 months ago
@liutasx we justify? We have no need to torture billions of mammals in sick factory farms for selfish desires. As stated in the video if you want meat at least hunt for it and eat it raw then. Continued...
VeganMotorcyclePilot 2 months ago
If suffering depends on the actions of a central nervous system, would you consider it an end of their suffering if we genetically engineered livestock that lacked that system? What if instead, they were kept anesthetized their whole life? Would that be an end to their suffering?
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If they tried as hard to reduce suffering than to justify the world would be much better
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