Alexander built an empire based on his personality too, but he conquered civilized peoples and even when his successors fought, they ended as civilized empires. Attila had no underlying civilized peoples to continue while their overlords squabbled. If he had united with Rome-Constantinople's long settled history?
@kurvaanyukad ur fact is so distorted to the extent that u try to take credit of the chinese civilization..CHINESE called themselves Han people not because they were hunnic, it's because it's the name of the dynasty.So don confuse HAN dynasty to HUN tribe. Name of the dynasty changes over time as rulers change. the first chinese dynasty is not of Hunnic descent. the Cradle of human culture will remain in china forever. Don take credit over something which ur people do not belong to.
They were called barbarian by their enemies. What amazes me these so called moron modern day historians still call Huns Barbarian(!) particularly the smirky ugly woman Salzman calling them dirty even discrediting Greek Historian who actually saw him.These historian have bias! Well Attilla stayed in Rome as hostage and learned their language and tactics. He was victor. How stupid barbarian was he?Or these western historians made a documentary from their biased perspective only?!
@majestik143 It's no propaganda, it's simple historical facts... Those were the distinctive characteristics of nomadic horseback peoples from the central Asian steppes like the Huns, Turks, Mongolians, etc. They were constantly on the move, they lived in tents, they lived off the spoils conquered in hit-and-run attacks against settled peoples and societies and they were known for their brutal slaughter of peoples from Gaul in the West to China in the East...
The true Turkic people look more like Mongolians than modern day Turks. They don't have light skin and light eyes. Modern day Turks are the people that lived in Turkey when the great empire of the Ottaman Turks took over.
Man that always happens.. Some big wig goes down and the whole Nation goes to the dogs. Stability seems key but doesn't produce much change, and it's hard for me to invision today's peace without yesterdays war
Poisoned for sure. It's a fact, that the Huns disbanded after his sons fought among themselves for their father's title as leader. But, the people never left. They stayed, interbred and moved on with their lives. Until, the Mongolians came and followed the routes of the Huns as far as Poland. Egyptian architecture are a lot older not better. With Wikipedia use with CAUTION, any schmuck with internet access can add things that are not true and pass it off as fact. Read a book instead.
Not only did the Huns stay, the Avars also came, and the Magyars, Cumans and Kypchaks too. Some people may like to believe that they didn't, in order to pretend that all Hungarians are white and have nothing to do with them, however, by looking at modern-day Hungarians, we can see Hungarians are their descendants:
/watch?v=sf-Q9rAieWU
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Wiki is almost useless for reading about Hun history because of all the schmucks who write false information
And as for the "old roman civilisation" - Hun civilisation is much more older than the roman. Huns had their own kind of writing when Romulus's and Remus's great-great-great father wasn't even planned.
Plus of course consider the Trojan-Etruscan-Hungarian connection (Allieni and others) plus the Pelasgians and some of the ancient Central Asian cultural sites (as in Will Durant's book from the 1930s) not to mention the Tatarlaka find from Hungary and its striking similarity with Sumerian writing (look for yourself and compare the symbols) a few millenia before Sumeria, plus old Sumerian stories in the Christian tradition....bye-bye classic Greco-Roman hegemonist-cultists!
The people and the language hasn't dissapeard. I think Attila's country not accidently called HUNgary. And not without any reason. Árpád hungarian lord (or king) vas straight descendant of Attila. And hungarians are descendants of the real hun tribe. If hungarian legends are true Bulgarians vas another hun tribe. They just become slavic, because of the slavic influences.
For the LAST TIME!!!Our name came from Hunor,yes foreign peaople named us after a myth,just like we ourselves named Magyar from Magor,get it?Attila has NOTHING to do with our name!
All Right! Hungary comes from Hun Ugri or Hun Ugor. As we belong to the ugor tribes and as we belong to huns as well. Hunor's and Magor's legend is a tale to explain the relationship of the Hun and the Magyar nations.Don't you think it's a bit odd to name a nation after a caracter of a tale?
...my main point wasn't about war or weapon/armor manufacturing.I was talking about the more refined/genuine aspects of civilization such as advances in science,literature etc...
Hungarian tradition also traces pre-European Magyar (Hungarian) ancestry back to the Magi. In time, the Sumerian-influenced religion of the Magi was suppressed in favor of a more purely Iranian form of Zoroastrianism..."
Look up the real history before you buy into these lies.
hey you lost your people are lame ans you smell like butts and look like foreskins
-so spaketh zarathusthra
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Hungarian tradition also traces pre-European Magyar (Hungarian) ancestry back to the Magi. In time, the Sumerian-influenced religion of the Magi was suppressed in favor of a more purely Iranian form of Zoroastrianism..."
Many historians place the possible earliest settlements of the Magi tribes in the Carpathian Basin (before the Slavic or Bulgarian groups). The 'Magyars' later simply returned there, as it was familiar territory to them. Look it up, before you believe 'historical' lies!
This is one version of the western propaganda stories rewriting yet again to calm the conscience of the killer western groups!
For the real origins of the Magyars, look up: Wikipedia: 'History of Medes'...
From there: "The sixth tribe were the Magi...They were a hereditary caste of priests of the Zurvanism religion that evolved out of Zoroastrianism. The name Magi implies a link with the Sumerians, who called their language Emegir, over time becoming simplified to Magi.
The Magyars were one of the 6 tribes of the ancient "Medes Empire", called 'Magi' , but later the Persians 'absorbed' them and their rich culture or chased them away.
By the way, the word magic is traced back to this ancient culture, as they were advanced in wisdom and knowledge.
There is a much more ancient historical evidence uncovered now about the origins of the Magyar people. Huns were a different tribe - a part of the Scythian Tribal groups.
- I wasn´t talking about some groups of people in Hungaria, or Szekely. What I want to say is that according to Western Encyclopedias Modern Hungarians are considered to be mostly Slavic.
Attila was the last great leader of the tribal way of life. (except for the American Indians, who exported it to the American continent and survived with it 200 yrs longer). Read Calleman's book: 'Mayan Calendar and Transformation of Consciousness'. Humanity is on a schedule and the tribal ways had to end. (unfortunately)
Yes, we are on the seventh day of ALL earlier forms of civilizations - including the tribal way- just look at Afghanistan today or the nomad Arabs tribes still living the old tribal way in the desert...
He is our national hero actually. About the barbarism.. Huns were considered barbaric only by europeans. In Asia and the Middle-East (which is the cradle of human culture) they were considered developed and nobel. First dynasty of China was hunnic. (Chinese said it!) And unlike the historians say they also had cities. Western cultures only consider them barbaric because they been a major thread for Europeans. Just like the Scythians were a threat for the Greeks, before becoming the huns.
asia and the middle east was the cradle of human civilization?not at Attila's time!if you refer to mesopotamia,you must know that the civilizations who lived there(assyrians,summerians,akkaedians,haettians,babylonians etc)were extinguished thousands of years before the huns even appeared on the face of the earth.plus,the hunnic empire never reached the middle east...and isn't a person who only kills,destroys,loots and plunders to be concidered barbarian?that's the definition of barbarism!
Yes. Then the Romans were barbarians also. Started with Carthage, devastated to ground, looted and pillaged, the citizens slain, and their children taken as roman slaves. Western world rather call this conquering. "The conquered mourns, the conqueror is undone."
I understand what you say,but you can't actually compare civilizations like roman with barbarians.romans may have also slain/conquered a whole bunch of different people/nations,but they also made a great deal of advances in areas such as literature,poetry,theatre,architecture,engineering,mathematics,physics,astronomy etc...while the barbarians were only good at fighting/slaying other people-they knew/cared for nothing more...
When you say you may not compare civilizations, you draw you own line. I can compare them. Metallurgy of the "barbarians" were evidently far better than roman. Think of the gaul helmet as the legion's standard, the swordsmithy of the gauls, celts, germans and of the Near-East were far better. Horsemanship was far better on the Eurasian steppe, as well as the clothing and making war was more developed in some aspects.
Also, great deal in advances, literature and poetry - look at the orkhon scripts, a version of such turkic script still survived in Hungary by our nation. Huns built wooden buildings, which can not survive for such a long time as brick- and marble- buildings do. Mathematics lain by the greeks what romans used, but since I learned how to count with roman numbers, only adding was quite hard. The "local value" of the decimal system brought the revolution.Apart from the fact not everyone could count
So engineering lacked mathematics, and were far from better than later dark middle ages building techniques. IMHO Egyptian buildings and architecture were far better. Physics and alchemy was something different and we can call it "spooky", mainly ill-thought, nothing to compare with. Astronomy of the Mayan, Greek and Indian people were better, but Romans recorded their own catalog of stars, it is true.
So, what they did romans different ? They took a bath sometimes :))))))
I see you're focusing/limiting the conversation to romans.I never did that-you misunderstood.I was talking about the mistake/failure in trying to compare generaly sophisticated classic civilizations like the romans(including of course the greeks,egyptians,mesopotamians,incas,mayans,aztecs etc...)with tribes of barbarians...
Okay. Then pls. just search for the following clues on google or wiki:
old hungarian script, xiongnu, xiongnu city china, huns, and listen to this song's lyrics: Iron Maiden - The Nomad :) Sure you'll find out the Qin (Kina as we call, China as english does) built up their first empire on hunnish design. :)))))
@kurvaanyukad I am a Chinese and I dont think the Huns have ever established a dynasty in China. The first dynasty in China was the Qing Empire which CLEARLY was NOT NOMADIC and has the Qing kingdom was in the Chinese Civilization not the Huns culture.
Han dynasty of China has Conquered the Nomadic Huns in the north. the Huns suffered tremendous loses after being defeated by the army led by 衛青 and 霍去病. The Huns fled to central asia after being defeated by Chinese, thats what i know about huns
@GoldenDragonEmperor First Dynasty of china was not Qin but as early as Zhou and before was Xia .....However as early as Zhou dynasty contact of the northern barbarians (Xianbei,rouran) was intense..till the fall of Zhou many Xianbei,rourans and xiongnu had assimilated into china. yes and during Han did defeated the xiongnu.
@GoldenDragonEmperor you may be right .the newer historians beleve that the xiongnu of china were not the huns of europ,but the huns of europe was a combanation of many turko/mongol tribes of central asia.
And after the huns left, leaving a part of them here (us). We never dominated a large area, so there is a chance, that we were never mixed, because of the isolation, until the hungarians came and let indo-european settlers live here.
I still think that our genetics are related mostly to scythians, alans (ossetians nowdays) and some turkic people.
you know I don't try to offend you. All I say is what I see and was taught. I knew, that bulgarians are relatives to us. Even the the national hero of the Székely, Csaba, the third son of Attila is considered a bulgarian prince, by bulgarians. But what I'm saying is, my people were allways a little xenophobic, so I don't think I or my roots have slavic blood. Maybe I can found some slavic relatives in my family, but all my family looks székely. Some even having slightly mongoloid features.
are you talking about aetius flavius? yes he was assassinated by the roman emporer a year after the death of attila. it was said that the emporer cut off his right hand with his left.
actually there is some debate on that because other accounts describe him dying of a nose bleed in his sleep?
but you are correct that the germanic tribes as well as other tribes jostled for control over his territory as well as the in-fighting among his own tribe and numerous heirs ( sons ).
Armenian monks wrote a Hun dictionary and grammar in the 6th century, when there were still Huns living near the Caspian sea. Some of this work was processed by Csorba Csaba. In spite of the criticism by mainstream scholars, anyone speaking modern Hungarian may feel the links between the two languages. I guess a Turkish speaker would also find interesting thing in it. The Fin-Ugric and Turkic opposition is really ripe for revising.
It doesn't matter what Attila was, what matters is he was a brilliant strategist and warlord of Shaman beliefs who struck fear into Roman Catholic Christians, even earning himself the title Scourge of God.
nough people would want to be related to attilla donut,as u can see everyone wants a piece of him,turks,bulgarians,kazaks,mongols ect,fact is he was a scythian-sarmatian hun hungarian,just no one wants to admit to it, because all want a piece.he is also the closest thing to legend of king arthur.thats why they all want to be related to him numbnuts.what makes u think he or any of us are godless,bias roman history.
Attila's blood still flows in Hungarian mind, body and soul...the west knows 'their' history which is often not history but more elitist western crap. The many descendents of Attila's tribes are all over the Carpatheons, especially Hungary. You can see it in the people, body, mind and souls...Believe it or not, they know who they are.
wow..I never seen so much BS writings on YouTube before.
Attila was a Hun. With no relations to Magyars/Hungarians and absolute non to Turkish/Persians or Syrians.
The Huns were nomads pushed out from Chinese steppes / Mongolian territories by the several growing tribes. Same things happened with the Magyars and later on with Cumans.
It is very popular now days to rewrite history both in eastern Europe and the middle east to represent the ideologies of the countries.
All the lieing sons of bitches who decline and ignore as attila(the hun)(hun was formaly the name for turkic ppl coming from central asia.) being a turk. You just are jealous hes turkic. Just look at his fighting styles > very similar to turkic forces we turkks are barbariian like attila and we love it. uaahahahaha
No we are not. I don't know why self-made historians like you try to distort our origin. Lot of other ethnic groups can be found in Hungary, but that doesn't mean, that hungarians mixed with them.
1. Yo yourself ARE self-made historian who DENIES Bulgarian present in Pannonia. Pannonia was Bulgarian land ( when Magyars were still in Asia) before they moved to Balkan, and there are archaeological evidences of Bulgarian present -- you just need to red more books and visit some museums.
2. Secondly, the striking power of the Huns were Bulgars, and Bulgars are related officially by all normal historians to Huns.
3. Thirdly, when Magyars came to Pannonia about 400 years later there was no Hunic Empire and Áttila was dead long time ago. Do your mathematics and don´t talk to me more cause I am educated and can count figures.
4. Buda was Bulgarian fortress and Budapest is made on Bulgarian fortresses.
5. There exist no pure origin, mate, all people got mixed. The word Bulgar is general and cosmopolitic (like Mongol, Türk, Hun, etc) means "mixed" and could be anybody within Bulgarian States. Bulgar is not a specithic ethnic belonging. We were already mixed before our modern countries were born, and we both are mixed also with Slavs.
So did Magyars, my friend. Slavs were everywhere,and even Germans have more Slavic blood than Bulgarians according to blood tests. It was published in German magazine.
dear atilla we will make these bitches remember who we are, we promise.
we wont feel ashamed after this life in front of you cengiz kaan fatih sultan mehmed and ataturk.they will have bloody deja-vu and will see what it means to curse from their keypad like pussies.
you stupid bitches hun is a old name of our empire...like han selcuk and ottoman.
just fuck you
like atilla cengiz kaan all sultans atatürk did
ah sorry nikhellas
ECEVit AS WELL
and you bastards magyars (hungarians) were turkish too but they became after we took europe CHRISTIAN and became something different.atilla is a real turk
Just because a few Turks lived on Hungarian land doesn't mean that Turks and Hungarians have common roots. Never have, never will. When will Turks realize that they are not welcome in Europe?
for example sword is in hunnic language kilic and in turkish language it is still kilic. oh and in hungarian language there are around 100 words that are still the same with turkish language.. so you can conclude that those folks have something to do with each other
Turks and Hungarians are brothers. We have common past and common cultural beckground. Today Turkie is muslim Hungary is christian but we love one god as we loved one sun god in Attila's time. We have to be proud and refuse fake history figured out by slavic and western nations. This is a great movie. My name is Attila and I am Hungarian-Hun.
Yea right! You are not magyar, you are a Hungarian gypsy. Hungarians were never Turkish. But, yes, a few Turks and gypsies lived on the land in history, just as they do today.
Maybe your slut mom is gipsy not me asshole. Look around Turkie and then Hungary. Which country is more developed or more clean or more cultured? Belive me, non of any Hungarian wants to be Turkish. I just mentioned the common roots you mutherfucker piece of shit nobody. Cheers :)
I am magyar and I do believe Huns were Uralic follwed by Magyars. Attila was a common name for magyars even before they entered europe. also magyars (hungarians) have a language that is unknown and unlike anything else in europe or asia except a small area today in the Urals where Khanty and Mansi tribes speak a langauge almost exctinct today and very close to hungarian and probably originated from hunnic.
The fact that the Ottomans refferd to the Magyars as "Hungarians" is further proof that the "Magyars" were the original Huns and the Turks may have been a part of it but where not the leaders despite whatever bogus claim they make now.
You ignorant people are barbarians not Attila and the Huns
I'm sick of it. The western people try to destroy and mislead our proud place in history by calling Attila Turk or Mongolian or what ever. No we are Huns and Magyars.
Plus Hungarian language was spoken when most of other languages were not even born in Europe. If you have to call someone a barbarian better look twice! And get things right! Long live Attila and the Magyars! Eljen Magyarorszag! Mindent Vissza!
Which country is the only one that even today using the name Attila?
Not the Turks that is for sure! For your information the Hungarians (Magyars) which you can find today the same place as it was under Attila. (Budapest, Hungary)
Was Atilla a Christian? It seems that some of his behavior reflects it, The hole spartan restrained lifestyle. Even his meeting with Pope leo and abstaining from plundering Rome.
I agree that Atilla was a Magyar and "hungarian" 10 tribes was his empire. Turks just want to believe that they destroyed both Romes thats why they propagate this Bullshit.
he wasnt christian, and neither were spartans, the fact that he lead a spartan life style, was just because he was modest and restrained, and the stronger man for it. he probably laughed at christian values.
Too bad, there is a country named Romania, but it has not much to do with Roman Empire. There is Hungary, but in thous times it was just one of the lands of Attila's kingdom. If you look at the lifestyle of hunns, theyr war tactics, theyr burrial traditions-you can clearly see Scyths type of ethnicity.
Well, hungarians claim and know that they're descendants of Attila. Bulgarians also claim they're descendants of Attila. Wouldn't that mean hungarians and bulgarians are related? just a thought...
Yes. Bulgarians and Magyars were related (though Bulgars came to Pannonia and Europe earlier.Some groups of them lived together already in Euroasia and there are remnants of Bulgarian military,economical words in the Hungarian language.Both were called
"on-oghurs"(one of the tribes),wore same clothes and had same hairstyle. There are several Hungarian historians who speak of Proto-bulgarians and one of those is Geza Féhèr. He wrote a book "Proto-bulgarians", if I remember well the title.
Hungary was the center of Attila' s empire as the film showed. Hungarians, magyars are the offsprings of the huns. Our language is unique noone speaks it except 15 million Hungarians.How do you explain it?
My name is Alexander and I am not Greek. The name Àtilla doesn´t make you hunic. You are the only once who choose that name because of natural reasons. Àttila and the huns were considered barbarians and evel (by historians, not by me)and that is why nobody wants to be related to. Nobody wants to be called Hitler, for example. He was most probably worst but historicaly not so old. Áttila was long time ago and forgotten.
According to Chinese history. The first Hun ShanYu was son of Jie. An exiled Chinese Emperor.
Lordofthenipplerings 1 month ago
ATTILA IS DEAD------------- LONG LIVE ATTILA
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henceseventytwo 2 months ago
i want to rape the pink dressed scholar bitch in her office desk.
hunnekot 10 months ago
Alexander built an empire based on his personality too, but he conquered civilized peoples and even when his successors fought, they ended as civilized empires. Attila had no underlying civilized peoples to continue while their overlords squabbled. If he had united with Rome-Constantinople's long settled history?
Saiaton 1 year ago
thought it was stated earlier in the video that his son rebuilt the empire?
BoundInChains 1 year ago
@kurvaanyukad ur fact is so distorted to the extent that u try to take credit of the chinese civilization..CHINESE called themselves Han people not because they were hunnic, it's because it's the name of the dynasty.So don confuse HAN dynasty to HUN tribe. Name of the dynasty changes over time as rulers change. the first chinese dynasty is not of Hunnic descent. the Cradle of human culture will remain in china forever. Don take credit over something which ur people do not belong to.
manchewl 1 year ago
Almost all European peoples are heir apparents of Atila's people.
Yes,''They were called barbarian by their enemies.'' But Priscus sed,that they have a stone bildings and baths.
123bonitas 1 year ago
They were called barbarian by their enemies. What amazes me these so called moron modern day historians still call Huns Barbarian(!) particularly the smirky ugly woman Salzman calling them dirty even discrediting Greek Historian who actually saw him.These historian have bias! Well Attilla stayed in Rome as hostage and learned their language and tactics. He was victor. How stupid barbarian was he?Or these western historians made a documentary from their biased perspective only?!
majestik143 1 year ago
@majestik143 It's no propaganda, it's simple historical facts... Those were the distinctive characteristics of nomadic horseback peoples from the central Asian steppes like the Huns, Turks, Mongolians, etc. They were constantly on the move, they lived in tents, they lived off the spoils conquered in hit-and-run attacks against settled peoples and societies and they were known for their brutal slaughter of peoples from Gaul in the West to China in the East...
unapologeticmind 1 year ago
@1ordas
isolated and degenerated...
kutachlop 1 year ago
in that time, people who couldn't speak italian, were considered as barbaric people... that's the way uh ha uh ha
booyashaka10 1 year ago
The true Turkic people look more like Mongolians than modern day Turks. They don't have light skin and light eyes. Modern day Turks are the people that lived in Turkey when the great empire of the Ottaman Turks took over.
projections 1 year ago
Man that always happens.. Some big wig goes down and the whole Nation goes to the dogs. Stability seems key but doesn't produce much change, and it's hard for me to invision today's peace without yesterdays war
thatsMrSmileytoyou 1 year ago
Poisoned for sure. It's a fact, that the Huns disbanded after his sons fought among themselves for their father's title as leader. But, the people never left. They stayed, interbred and moved on with their lives. Until, the Mongolians came and followed the routes of the Huns as far as Poland. Egyptian architecture are a lot older not better. With Wikipedia use with CAUTION, any schmuck with internet access can add things that are not true and pass it off as fact. Read a book instead.
dvsxavier 2 years ago 3
@dvsxavier Yes, people should read wiki with caution...Books are better, from both western and eastern sources
NemSoha 2 years ago 3
Not only did the Huns stay, the Avars also came, and the Magyars, Cumans and Kypchaks too. Some people may like to believe that they didn't, in order to pretend that all Hungarians are white and have nothing to do with them, however, by looking at modern-day Hungarians, we can see Hungarians are their descendants:
/watch?v=sf-Q9rAieWU
/watch?v=nWPCVMEsyeM&feature=related
Wiki is almost useless for reading about Hun history because of all the schmucks who write false information
NemSoha 2 years ago 3
And as for the "old roman civilisation" - Hun civilisation is much more older than the roman. Huns had their own kind of writing when Romulus's and Remus's great-great-great father wasn't even planned.
Kukafi 2 years ago 3
romulus and remus r gayZZZZZZZZZZZ X_X
undead600 2 years ago
@Kukafi
Well said!
Plus of course consider the Trojan-Etruscan-Hungarian connection (Allieni and others) plus the Pelasgians and some of the ancient Central Asian cultural sites (as in Will Durant's book from the 1930s) not to mention the Tatarlaka find from Hungary and its striking similarity with Sumerian writing (look for yourself and compare the symbols) a few millenia before Sumeria, plus old Sumerian stories in the Christian tradition....bye-bye classic Greco-Roman hegemonist-cultists!
sieglgtube 2 years ago
The people and the language hasn't dissapeard. I think Attila's country not accidently called HUNgary. And not without any reason. Árpád hungarian lord (or king) vas straight descendant of Attila. And hungarians are descendants of the real hun tribe. If hungarian legends are true Bulgarians vas another hun tribe. They just become slavic, because of the slavic influences.
Kukafi 2 years ago
For the LAST TIME!!!Our name came from Hunor,yes foreign peaople named us after a myth,just like we ourselves named Magyar from Magor,get it?Attila has NOTHING to do with our name!
pappflora12 2 years ago
All Right! Hungary comes from Hun Ugri or Hun Ugor. As we belong to the ugor tribes and as we belong to huns as well. Hunor's and Magor's legend is a tale to explain the relationship of the Hun and the Magyar nations.Don't you think it's a bit odd to name a nation after a caracter of a tale?
Kukafi 2 years ago
...my main point wasn't about war or weapon/armor manufacturing.I was talking about the more refined/genuine aspects of civilization such as advances in science,literature etc...
steveharrismetalgod 2 years ago
Where is part 5 ?
I'm not able to find it !!
maroom1 3 years ago
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hun = mongol = turk = kazak=central asia = north china = korea = japan ~~~~~ Ural-Altaic languages
hungary is not hun
hungary was steal name of hun
hungary=german+slavic+gypsy+latin mixed
attila and Genghis Khan is pride of Ural-Altaic
ohdaesu15 3 years ago
Hungarian tradition also traces pre-European Magyar (Hungarian) ancestry back to the Magi. In time, the Sumerian-influenced religion of the Magi was suppressed in favor of a more purely Iranian form of Zoroastrianism..."
Look up the real history before you buy into these lies.
gyongyhajulany 3 years ago
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hey you lost your people are lame ans you smell like butts and look like foreskins
-so spaketh zarathusthra
transcripts from the law offices of the late coprophagist esquire jr., m.d.p.h.d., d.d.s., o.p.p.,d.i.y.obgyn - thewaydownisthewayup co.1776 all rights reserved-
coprophagist69 2 years ago
Hungarian tradition also traces pre-European Magyar (Hungarian) ancestry back to the Magi. In time, the Sumerian-influenced religion of the Magi was suppressed in favor of a more purely Iranian form of Zoroastrianism..."
Many historians place the possible earliest settlements of the Magi tribes in the Carpathian Basin (before the Slavic or Bulgarian groups). The 'Magyars' later simply returned there, as it was familiar territory to them. Look it up, before you believe 'historical' lies!
gyongyhajulany 3 years ago
This is one version of the western propaganda stories rewriting yet again to calm the conscience of the killer western groups!
For the real origins of the Magyars, look up: Wikipedia: 'History of Medes'...
From there: "The sixth tribe were the Magi...They were a hereditary caste of priests of the Zurvanism religion that evolved out of Zoroastrianism. The name Magi implies a link with the Sumerians, who called their language Emegir, over time becoming simplified to Magi.
gyongyhajulany 3 years ago
The Magyars were one of the 6 tribes of the ancient "Medes Empire", called 'Magi' , but later the Persians 'absorbed' them and their rich culture or chased them away.
By the way, the word magic is traced back to this ancient culture, as they were advanced in wisdom and knowledge.
gyongyhajulany 3 years ago
All of your arguments are wrong!
There is a much more ancient historical evidence uncovered now about the origins of the Magyar people. Huns were a different tribe - a part of the Scythian Tribal groups.
gyongyhajulany 3 years ago
- I wasn´t talking about some groups of people in Hungaria, or Szekely. What I want to say is that according to Western Encyclopedias Modern Hungarians are considered to be mostly Slavic.
spa05akw 3 years ago
Attila was the last great leader of the tribal way of life. (except for the American Indians, who exported it to the American continent and survived with it 200 yrs longer). Read Calleman's book: 'Mayan Calendar and Transformation of Consciousness'. Humanity is on a schedule and the tribal ways had to end. (unfortunately)
gyongyhajulany 3 years ago
Do you not consider the Mongols as part of that tribal way of life?
yld629 3 years ago
Yes, we are on the seventh day of ALL earlier forms of civilizations - including the tribal way- just look at Afghanistan today or the nomad Arabs tribes still living the old tribal way in the desert...
gyongyhajulany 3 years ago
He is our national hero actually. About the barbarism.. Huns were considered barbaric only by europeans. In Asia and the Middle-East (which is the cradle of human culture) they were considered developed and nobel. First dynasty of China was hunnic. (Chinese said it!) And unlike the historians say they also had cities. Western cultures only consider them barbaric because they been a major thread for Europeans. Just like the Scythians were a threat for the Greeks, before becoming the huns.
kurvaanyukad 3 years ago 7
*threat
kurvaanyukad 3 years ago
asia and the middle east was the cradle of human civilization?not at Attila's time!if you refer to mesopotamia,you must know that the civilizations who lived there(assyrians,summerians,akkaedians,haettians,babylonians etc)were extinguished thousands of years before the huns even appeared on the face of the earth.plus,the hunnic empire never reached the middle east...and isn't a person who only kills,destroys,loots and plunders to be concidered barbarian?that's the definition of barbarism!
steveharrismetalgod 3 years ago
Yes. Then the Romans were barbarians also. Started with Carthage, devastated to ground, looted and pillaged, the citizens slain, and their children taken as roman slaves. Western world rather call this conquering. "The conquered mourns, the conqueror is undone."
What is the difference ?
liuntika 2 years ago 2
I understand what you say,but you can't actually compare civilizations like roman with barbarians.romans may have also slain/conquered a whole bunch of different people/nations,but they also made a great deal of advances in areas such as literature,poetry,theatre,architecture,engineering,mathematics,physics,astronomy etc...while the barbarians were only good at fighting/slaying other people-they knew/cared for nothing more...
steveharrismetalgod 2 years ago
When you say you may not compare civilizations, you draw you own line. I can compare them. Metallurgy of the "barbarians" were evidently far better than roman. Think of the gaul helmet as the legion's standard, the swordsmithy of the gauls, celts, germans and of the Near-East were far better. Horsemanship was far better on the Eurasian steppe, as well as the clothing and making war was more developed in some aspects.
liuntika 2 years ago
@liuntika
You're RIGHT about compaire the civilizations !
SuperiorHuns 2 years ago
Also, great deal in advances, literature and poetry - look at the orkhon scripts, a version of such turkic script still survived in Hungary by our nation. Huns built wooden buildings, which can not survive for such a long time as brick- and marble- buildings do. Mathematics lain by the greeks what romans used, but since I learned how to count with roman numbers, only adding was quite hard. The "local value" of the decimal system brought the revolution.Apart from the fact not everyone could count
liuntika 2 years ago
So engineering lacked mathematics, and were far from better than later dark middle ages building techniques. IMHO Egyptian buildings and architecture were far better. Physics and alchemy was something different and we can call it "spooky", mainly ill-thought, nothing to compare with. Astronomy of the Mayan, Greek and Indian people were better, but Romans recorded their own catalog of stars, it is true.
So, what they did romans different ? They took a bath sometimes :))))))
liuntika 2 years ago
I see you're focusing/limiting the conversation to romans.I never did that-you misunderstood.I was talking about the mistake/failure in trying to compare generaly sophisticated classic civilizations like the romans(including of course the greeks,egyptians,mesopotamians,incas,mayans,aztecs etc...)with tribes of barbarians...
steveharrismetalgod 2 years ago
Okay. Then pls. just search for the following clues on google or wiki:
old hungarian script, xiongnu, xiongnu city china, huns, and listen to this song's lyrics: Iron Maiden - The Nomad :) Sure you'll find out the Qin (Kina as we call, China as english does) built up their first empire on hunnish design. :)))))
liuntika 2 years ago 2
@kurvaanyukad
Barbarian = brays like a sheep (ancient Greek). They were barbarians. They didn't speek greek.
Pooknottin 1 year ago
@kurvaanyukad the word "barbarian" was used towards those who did not speak latin.
kornekify 1 year ago
@kornekify Fuck latin its ugly no offense
DawnOfDestruction1 1 year ago
@kurvaanyukad I am a Chinese and I dont think the Huns have ever established a dynasty in China. The first dynasty in China was the Qing Empire which CLEARLY was NOT NOMADIC and has the Qing kingdom was in the Chinese Civilization not the Huns culture.
Han dynasty of China has Conquered the Nomadic Huns in the north. the Huns suffered tremendous loses after being defeated by the army led by 衛青 and 霍去病. The Huns fled to central asia after being defeated by Chinese, thats what i know about huns
GoldenDragonEmperor 7 months ago
@GoldenDragonEmperor First Dynasty of china was not Qin but as early as Zhou and before was Xia .....However as early as Zhou dynasty contact of the northern barbarians (Xianbei,rouran) was intense..till the fall of Zhou many Xianbei,rourans and xiongnu had assimilated into china. yes and during Han did defeated the xiongnu.
hopkinWFG 6 months ago
@GoldenDragonEmperor you may be right .the newer historians beleve that the xiongnu of china were not the huns of europ,but the huns of europe was a combanation of many turko/mongol tribes of central asia.
neobogard 3 months ago
And after the huns left, leaving a part of them here (us). We never dominated a large area, so there is a chance, that we were never mixed, because of the isolation, until the hungarians came and let indo-european settlers live here.
I still think that our genetics are related mostly to scythians, alans (ossetians nowdays) and some turkic people.
kurvaanyukad 3 years ago
you know I don't try to offend you. All I say is what I see and was taught. I knew, that bulgarians are relatives to us. Even the the national hero of the Székely, Csaba, the third son of Attila is considered a bulgarian prince, by bulgarians. But what I'm saying is, my people were allways a little xenophobic, so I don't think I or my roots have slavic blood. Maybe I can found some slavic relatives in my family, but all my family looks székely. Some even having slightly mongoloid features.
kurvaanyukad 3 years ago
Actually, He was assassinated. Didn't die the way they say.
kurvaanyukad 3 years ago
are you talking about aetius flavius? yes he was assassinated by the roman emporer a year after the death of attila. it was said that the emporer cut off his right hand with his left.
suntzu1985 3 years ago
Attila was assassinated by his wife, who was germanic, thus after his death the germanic tribes tried to gain power right away.
kurvaanyukad 3 years ago
actually there is some debate on that because other accounts describe him dying of a nose bleed in his sleep?
but you are correct that the germanic tribes as well as other tribes jostled for control over his territory as well as the in-fighting among his own tribe and numerous heirs ( sons ).
suntzu1985 3 years ago
Armenian monks wrote a Hun dictionary and grammar in the 6th century, when there were still Huns living near the Caspian sea. Some of this work was processed by Csorba Csaba. In spite of the criticism by mainstream scholars, anyone speaking modern Hungarian may feel the links between the two languages. I guess a Turkish speaker would also find interesting thing in it. The Fin-Ugric and Turkic opposition is really ripe for revising.
amalrich111 3 years ago
wow. blood instead of tears.
worldmusicfan 3 years ago 2
It doesn't matter what Attila was, what matters is he was a brilliant strategist and warlord of Shaman beliefs who struck fear into Roman Catholic Christians, even earning himself the title Scourge of God.
Weedies11 3 years ago
1) There was no difference between Magyars and Turks at the time of Attila the Hun. They had the same culture and language.
2) The ONLY two countries in which Attila is a common name today is HUNGARY and TURKEY.
3) The only known Hun words correspond with Turkish languages. If you're not Altai like Hungarians and Turks, then you're not related to the Huns.
TurkTurkTurkOiOiOi 3 years ago 2
nough people would want to be related to attilla donut,as u can see everyone wants a piece of him,turks,bulgarians,kazaks,mongols ect,fact is he was a scythian-sarmatian hun hungarian,just no one wants to admit to it, because all want a piece.he is also the closest thing to legend of king arthur.thats why they all want to be related to him numbnuts.what makes u think he or any of us are godless,bias roman history.
irishhunbrit 3 years ago
Shut up ROMA
thehunjo 3 years ago
Shut up ROMA
thehunjo 3 years ago
Attila's blood still flows in Hungarian mind, body and soul...the west knows 'their' history which is often not history but more elitist western crap. The many descendents of Attila's tribes are all over the Carpatheons, especially Hungary. You can see it in the people, body, mind and souls...Believe it or not, they know who they are.
repuloter54 4 years ago 2
1) the origin of Huns is STILL unclear and disputed, so why you guys are fighting?! [Hugarian, Turkish, Bulgarian, Mongolian... who cares!?]
2) his empire lasted for the time of a blink and generated a great amount of distruction all over the Europe, why to be proud of that?!
Aky332000 4 years ago
wow..I never seen so much BS writings on YouTube before.
Attila was a Hun. With no relations to Magyars/Hungarians and absolute non to Turkish/Persians or Syrians.
The Huns were nomads pushed out from Chinese steppes / Mongolian territories by the several growing tribes. Same things happened with the Magyars and later on with Cumans.
It is very popular now days to rewrite history both in eastern Europe and the middle east to represent the ideologies of the countries.
dcat13 4 years ago
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What kind of filthy Godless swine would wish to be related to Attila!
THM41 4 years ago
All the lieing sons of bitches who decline and ignore as attila(the hun)(hun was formaly the name for turkic ppl coming from central asia.) being a turk. You just are jealous hes turkic. Just look at his fighting styles > very similar to turkic forces we turkks are barbariian like attila and we love it. uaahahahaha
serkan99 4 years ago
Attila is Turkish.Bulgarians are Turkish too..but they mixed with slavics..
knecht1980 4 years ago
BOTH are mixed with Slavic. Modern Hungarians are considered to be mostly Slavs.
spa05akw 3 years ago 2
No we are not. I don't know why self-made historians like you try to distort our origin. Lot of other ethnic groups can be found in Hungary, but that doesn't mean, that hungarians mixed with them.
kurvaanyukad 3 years ago
1. Yo yourself ARE self-made historian who DENIES Bulgarian present in Pannonia. Pannonia was Bulgarian land ( when Magyars were still in Asia) before they moved to Balkan, and there are archaeological evidences of Bulgarian present -- you just need to red more books and visit some museums.
2. Secondly, the striking power of the Huns were Bulgars, and Bulgars are related officially by all normal historians to Huns.
spa05akw 3 years ago
3. Thirdly, when Magyars came to Pannonia about 400 years later there was no Hunic Empire and Áttila was dead long time ago. Do your mathematics and don´t talk to me more cause I am educated and can count figures.
spa05akw 3 years ago
4. Buda was Bulgarian fortress and Budapest is made on Bulgarian fortresses.
5. There exist no pure origin, mate, all people got mixed. The word Bulgar is general and cosmopolitic (like Mongol, Türk, Hun, etc) means "mixed" and could be anybody within Bulgarian States. Bulgar is not a specithic ethnic belonging. We were already mixed before our modern countries were born, and we both are mixed also with Slavs.
spa05akw 3 years ago
So did Magyars, my friend. Slavs were everywhere,and even Germans have more Slavic blood than Bulgarians according to blood tests. It was published in German magazine.
spa05akw 3 years ago
dear atilla we will make these bitches remember who we are, we promise.
we wont feel ashamed after this life in front of you cengiz kaan fatih sultan mehmed and ataturk.they will have bloody deja-vu and will see what it means to curse from their keypad like pussies.
ferahcan 4 years ago
you stupid bitches hun is a old name of our empire...like han selcuk and ottoman.
just fuck you
like atilla cengiz kaan all sultans atatürk did
ah sorry nikhellas
ECEVit AS WELL
and you bastards magyars (hungarians) were turkish too but they became after we took europe CHRISTIAN and became something different.atilla is a real turk
dont be jealous.
ferahcan 4 years ago
Huns were Turks NickHellas, even the language we speak are the same, please read some academic books or artickles before posting comments
obasaka 4 years ago
Atilla Turk Magyar not
hunnicempire 4 years ago
Chieftain Atilla great khan
hunnicempire 4 years ago
Atilla the Hun was a Hun and not A TURK!!! If he was a Turk we would call him Atilla the Turk.
NickHelas 4 years ago
BUFF !! TURKISH ETIQUETTE sry! uahaha.. hey people don't u know ?! :O the world is turkish. ahahaha ahahah
Mirotobg 4 years ago
bullshit. im not turkish. nothing wrong with being turkish but i'm not that.
sylvestermoreno 4 years ago
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4p3gr 4 years ago
Its turkic language and turk people, not Turkish, that would be desribing present country Turkey language.
Long Live the Turkic people and its Allies!!!
Tchyngyz 4 years ago
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Turks are scum of the earth!
goldmarker 3 years ago
LOL coming from a person who is over 60! No wonder, u have grudge's!
Tchyngyz 3 years ago 2
Just because a few Turks lived on Hungarian land doesn't mean that Turks and Hungarians have common roots. Never have, never will. When will Turks realize that they are not welcome in Europe?
goldmarker 4 years ago
*sigh*....Attila....my hero..one pimpass spanking son of a bitch......love this guy
atlanticl 4 years ago
LOL that's funny :))
glitch107 4 years ago
for example sword is in hunnic language kilic and in turkish language it is still kilic. oh and in hungarian language there are around 100 words that are still the same with turkish language.. so you can conclude that those folks have something to do with each other
turkiturki 4 years ago
Turks and Hungarians are brothers. We have common past and common cultural beckground. Today Turkie is muslim Hungary is christian but we love one god as we loved one sun god in Attila's time. We have to be proud and refuse fake history figured out by slavic and western nations. This is a great movie. My name is Attila and I am Hungarian-Hun.
szajbercavboj 4 years ago
Yea right! You are not magyar, you are a Hungarian gypsy. Hungarians were never Turkish. But, yes, a few Turks and gypsies lived on the land in history, just as they do today.
goldmarker 4 years ago
goldmarker
Maybe your slut mom is gipsy not me asshole. Look around Turkie and then Hungary. Which country is more developed or more clean or more cultured? Belive me, non of any Hungarian wants to be Turkish. I just mentioned the common roots you mutherfucker piece of shit nobody. Cheers :)
szajbercavboj 4 years ago
@szajbercavboj
hello garian :D
you are sooo smart and powerful hun and garian
my mom also told me fairy tales before i went to bed but unlike you, i dont believe them anymore
kutachlop 1 year ago
huns are turks, madgyars, mongolians and even bulgarians. oh by the way the old hunnic scripts were translated thanx to turkish language.
turkiturki 4 years ago
büyük TÜRK!
aFeTR 4 years ago
only turkish is otto man the greet commander!
belagiorgo 4 years ago
I am magyar and I do believe Huns were Uralic follwed by Magyars. Attila was a common name for magyars even before they entered europe. also magyars (hungarians) have a language that is unknown and unlike anything else in europe or asia except a small area today in the Urals where Khanty and Mansi tribes speak a langauge almost exctinct today and very close to hungarian and probably originated from hunnic.
nembaj 4 years ago
The fact that the Ottomans refferd to the Magyars as "Hungarians" is further proof that the "Magyars" were the original Huns and the Turks may have been a part of it but where not the leaders despite whatever bogus claim they make now.
SultanBorat 4 years ago
Part 2.
You ignorant people are barbarians not Attila and the Huns
I'm sick of it. The western people try to destroy and mislead our proud place in history by calling Attila Turk or Mongolian or what ever. No we are Huns and Magyars.
Plus Hungarian language was spoken when most of other languages were not even born in Europe. If you have to call someone a barbarian better look twice! And get things right! Long live Attila and the Magyars! Eljen Magyarorszag! Mindent Vissza!
turul869 4 years ago
@turul869
truly you are turul LOL
kutachlop 1 year ago
Part 1.
Attila was not Turkic you people are full of it.
Which country is the only one that even today using the name Attila?
Not the Turks that is for sure! For your information the Hungarians (Magyars) which you can find today the same place as it was under Attila. (Budapest, Hungary)
Plus don't you call Attila Barbarian!
turul869 4 years ago
Was Atilla a Christian? It seems that some of his behavior reflects it, The hole spartan restrained lifestyle. Even his meeting with Pope leo and abstaining from plundering Rome.
I agree that Atilla was a Magyar and "hungarian" 10 tribes was his empire. Turks just want to believe that they destroyed both Romes thats why they propagate this Bullshit.
SultanBorat 4 years ago
he wasnt christian, and neither were spartans, the fact that he lead a spartan life style, was just because he was modest and restrained, and the stronger man for it. he probably laughed at christian values.
XIPM3 4 years ago
Thanks Mate! You are right! Someone who knows what he or she is talking about ! 1 more time Thanks!
turul869 4 years ago
Too bad, there is a country named Romania, but it has not much to do with Roman Empire. There is Hungary, but in thous times it was just one of the lands of Attila's kingdom. If you look at the lifestyle of hunns, theyr war tactics, theyr burrial traditions-you can clearly see Scyths type of ethnicity.
normalukrainian 4 years ago
Sorry Mate! You don't know what you are talking about.
So look at your country and talk s..t about that plz.
I know my history and that is that.I don't know yours and that is why I say nothing do the same plz thanks.
turul869 4 years ago
You don´t know your history. Áttila was Bulgarian.
spa05akw 4 years ago
Well, hungarians claim and know that they're descendants of Attila. Bulgarians also claim they're descendants of Attila. Wouldn't that mean hungarians and bulgarians are related? just a thought...
MagRise 3 years ago
Yes. Bulgarians and Magyars were related (though Bulgars came to Pannonia and Europe earlier.Some groups of them lived together already in Euroasia and there are remnants of Bulgarian military,economical words in the Hungarian language.Both were called
"on-oghurs"(one of the tribes),wore same clothes and had same hairstyle. There are several Hungarian historians who speak of Proto-bulgarians and one of those is Geza Féhèr. He wrote a book "Proto-bulgarians", if I remember well the title.
spa05akw 3 years ago 4
Hungary was the center of Attila' s empire as the film showed. Hungarians, magyars are the offsprings of the huns. Our language is unique noone speaks it except 15 million Hungarians.How do you explain it?
szajbercavboj 4 years ago
My name is Alexander and I am not Greek. The name Àtilla doesn´t make you hunic. You are the only once who choose that name because of natural reasons. Àttila and the huns were considered barbarians and evel (by historians, not by me)and that is why nobody wants to be related to. Nobody wants to be called Hitler, for example. He was most probably worst but historicaly not so old. Áttila was long time ago and forgotten.
spa05akw 3 years ago
thanks for sharing, really good one:-)
Kurwanjan 4 years ago