The map used in the calculation is a called an azimuthal or zenithal projection. These projections maintain the direction and angular relationships. So the calculation made is perfectly viable :)
@katkol1 a zenithal map projection is not a sphere, its a 2-d rendition of a sphere, and as such, I believ it does have boundaries but that seems like im justifying it doesnt it? So lets put it aside and say that its false.
how about the other calculation made in the video? (distance of Nth pole to Mecca/Sth pole to Mecca = 1.618) what's your take on that?
Yes, GR works only on a flat earth. A Spherical system cannot have GR. It's meaningless. The only ratio which works on a sphere or a circle is pi. Great Work!
u r the one who is cheating. why u dont pick that the parts at which he takes distanse between the poles of the earth
as regarding since i can mention names of many gerat christian who become a muslim (in anatomy, plotical) i challange u 2 give me a name of muslim sinciest who became a christian. look its not a matter of mircles it a matter of minds
this is the world most gay video on the youtubr ever and the uploader of this video is the number 1 most GAY person ever iand this song is 4 gay and this person is the fk fk dumb ass fk ginger cow fk ass btch slut whore worst person of the fkiest humans b ......... and and hes very very damn fking stupid guy with his flat world fk u man
Kaaba located at 1.618 gold mean point on earth. it's a black door to heaven ? well the Pope hold the keys to heaven not allah/muhammed.
Check out St Peters SQ - oh, the black door(moon). Moon has 1.618 relationship to earth. Cardinals are called "Hinges" i.e holding the door! 2 foundtains to door handle make Golden Triangle 1.1618 :)
St Peter holds the keys to heaven my friend, and runs your religion behind the veil - or is that Kiswa??
Kaaba located at 1.618 gold mean point on earth. it's a black door to heaven ? well the Pope hold the keys to heaven not allah/muhammed.
Check out St Peters SQ - oh, the black door(moon). Moon has 1.618 relationship to earth. Cardinals are called "Hinges" i.e holding the door! 2 foundtains to door handle make Golden Triangle 1.1618 :)
St Peter holds the keys to heaven my friend, and runs your religion behind the veil - or is that Kiswa??
Scientists frame the 3D Earth into 2D plane for a very long time. And the scientific method to do this for north-south we use poles. That is natural borders of map but for west-east we use longitude, an idea made up by science.
For example, If you cross over from Russia(Siberia) to USA(Alaska), it would jump 24 hours ahead in terms of calcualtion because scitienst accept that line as the start/end of map.
for many people Islam is not acceptable so they cannot accept any thing. Every one knows that Islam is most fast growing religion. if u are not agree then please look around
Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 61:8
Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 61:8
@freeamericaneagle Always with the fucking 'fastest growing religion' argument. Ever wondered why many people want to leave islam but don't? Maybe it's because the penalty for apostasy is death? You and your fucking cult.
I'll tell you one thing, you're forgetting the advancements in science. Look at what we have accomplished only over a few centuries since the scientific revolution.
Give it some more time, and god is not needed anymore to explain things. Tough shit.
Great video for the charlatans and uneducated muslims that want to play the role of scientists, using fantasy and misleading. The golden ratio on Mecca is hoax. It is a lie that has intentions to increase the falling faith of muslims.. Maybe the islamists think that Islam can't survive without lies.. :-)
the problem is such that the entire Islamic propaganda is full of lies and bias, if you distribute them being aware of it, that makes you slippery guy with double moral standards in the first place .... ( ..... not Christians )
* you will die and disappear or worse *
and you will go to paradise with all hypocrites , because this keeps you with Islam - fear and desperation
I see lots of children that are deceived by the propaganda, if you think it is ok ..... this is your moral - support a lie don't search for excuses that you don't take part in this , lie to yourself ....... fortunately most of them leave Islam when thay get bored of a new toy .... but this game with children's minds is slippery ,simple
i dont think that the video about Golden ratio and Mecca includes a lie use PhiMatrix for example,as the most simple way to test this you will see Mecca in the heart of the golden ratio point of the world map we use today also use google earth in 3d again you will find the 1,618 in Mecca from north to south nothing is lie here does it definitely prove Islam to be divine? no but is it an interesting sign? yes peace
running away from the subject, of course, you don't know what is the difference and why the errors on the map are always, atheism is growing and the only thing you can do is push your fingers in your ears and scream allalalhlalalalalalalalalalaal
even all the humans become atheists,i would not care at all really for example,you are an atheist do i care? no i care only this,you are wasting your time for nothing when a Christian does anti Islamic propaganda,he thinks he is going to get a better place in heaven for his hard work to stop people from converting to Islam (yea,since no "un"-retarded Muslim would convert to Christianity) but you are wasting your limited time you will die and disappear or worse so cherish every second peace
@HighFlyingDutchman He is quite clearly illustrating the false ideology some muslims are using to convert people to their religion. They could, instead of taking this an insult, actually take it as constructive criticism and start, I don't know, telling the truth?
i guess the video is stupid, the miracle thing, but dont you think that if god was pregnant and had a son called jessus is even more retarted... earth is not flatt btw dumbass
you ass you totally missed the point. that was the comedy point stating that the calculations in the mecca video you be correct IF the world was flat. know about what your commenting on before you post jack ass
U seem to have rushed in conclusions too quickly in your video.. Prove us that the people in the original video say wron. If so, then so what, it is possible. .But that does not mean it affects our faith, there are already unvaluable evidences that God is real. Islam is His religion and it has been here since the creation of the Universe.. So, please let's have an intelligent debate here instead of unconstructed, light passionate arguments like yours seem to be...
macce is on the golden mean point between the poles, that is undisputed. so are the abu simbel tempeles in egypt. i am a jew by the way but i still find this intresting.
true. i do realize there are thousands of places on earth that are on this latitude i just think that it is intresting that mecca is as well. it is a major religious center and i wonder what there drew people to it or was it sheer coincidense.
you are right to be laughing, so am i, what a ridiculousdebunk vid LOL...just read the comments below...and also note this is just a bs shift ... read the bible, it says the world is flat and circular...like a disk...lol...but from a 2d perspective thats right, no doubt, but the Holy Quran is more descriptive - as in stating its like an ostrich egg, not completely sperical as it spreads out from the sides...
Sad that this discovery seems to fuel some Islamophobia.
TO address the staement that someone the bible says the earth is flat that a lie. In Job 26:7 The servant of God Job says the earth is hung upon nothing; and in Isaiah 40:22 says, the earth is in appearance a circle (Isaiah is not saying the earth is flat) and the universe is stretched out like a curtian.(Proverbs 8:27-27When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:) makes it clear the earth is round.
i would not go so far and say it is a lie...(New International Version)
Revelation 20:8 ...and will go out to deceive the nations in the FOUR CORNERS of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore....
[ 144,000 Sealed ] After this I saw four angels standing at the FOUR CORNERS of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.
Are you serious? Four corners is in reference to the directions of earth : west,north,east,south. People say "sun down" do people really believe the sun is going down? No. (36And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds;-Jeremiah 49:36) The only way wind comes in fours is directions.
Acts 10:11 (King James Version) "11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:"
Four corners is talking about the object descending NOT the earth itself..."and let down to the earth:"
what is this object exactly...a sheet containing animals 4 footed, reptiles and birds...i think animals were put across the globe...or as the reference "and let down to earth by its (earths) for corners...but anyway, lets say you are right...
and maybe i'm reading into it too far...but...the following is from dr naik's debate with dr cambell....Matthew 4 (New International Version) 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
- on even the highest mountain you could not see all the kingdoms-i.e.those on the otherside of the planet...unless ofcourse the world was flat...
Daniel 4 (New International Version) 10 These are the visions I saw while lying in my bed: I looked, and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous. 11 The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
i am not disputing god stabilises the world... what i am in dispute of is that the bible says the world does not move...cannot be moved - yet it is moving all the time.
"cannot be moved" does that mean the earth does not move? or that God has full control of the world? In both verses it talking about God authority and control over the earth , yet you somehow think it means the earth does not move?
the lines that repeat...The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved...in context of the rest of the verse, people on earth, tremble or fear god! the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved - if world means earth then yes, the bible states it cannot move.
the question still stands...how COULD (as you put it) this be done. I tried answering this question too, for the devil...it could have been miswritten/interpreted and should be either mountain S or a mountain on another planet that oversees earth. As for the tree, its branches would have to go all around the world. Who knows huh.
it is a reinterpretation of the word meaning, change the content of Koran , ,They wanted to hide the errors this change-CORRUPT occurred in the 80's years,by
Rashad Khalifa
ahhahaha
everywhere in the Qur'an you have a flat earth ,even this miracle is flat
Lame reponse, why don't you just add up the mass murder from the elites...what happened to the native americans, what happened across africa and asia, seriously who do you really think are the killersand it just continues... racism. In Islam we are all equal, just like the teeth on a comb - we only differ by piety.
you probably got me wrong like a lot thing, but let me explain. God created us and sees us equally - no man, woman, or slave is different as they are all humans- only by god consciousness do we differ, and those of us knowledged and practiced are the better of us. Others may be distanced from god by the devil. In that sense, if we are firstly considered equal, then we should treat each other equally, like Jesus's parable about neighboors and equal treatment. Watch 'The Message' to understand.
"but let me explain" you can not explain this jerk Read the hadiths tafsirs and whole quran Q 2:221,2:178,16:74,16:75,8:55 ... in Islam is a clear hierarchy : man woman slave ... lowest are: disbeliever / nonbeliever , are compared to animals his hierarchy is now preserved in the Islamic countries including slavery and read about Jizja tax salam
2:221 - Those (who embraced Islam from Bani Israel) to whom We gave the Book [the Taurat (Torah)] [or those (Muhammad's Peace be upon him companions) to whom We have given the Book (the Qur'an)] recite it (i.e. obey its orders and follow its teachings) as it should be recited (i.e. followed), they are the ones that believe therein. And whoso disbelieves in it (the Qur'an), those are they who are the losers. (Tafsir Al-Qurtubi. Vol. 2, Page 95).
2:178 - O you who believe! Al-Qisas (the Law of Equality in punishment) is prescribed for you in case of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But if the killer is forgiven by the brother (or the relatives, etc.) of the killed against blood money, then adhering to it with fairness and payment of the blood money, to the heir should be made in fairness. This is an alleviation and a mercy from your Lord.
16:75 - Allah puts forward the example (of two men a believer and a disbeliever); a slave (disbeliever) under the possession of another, he has no power of any sort, and (the other), a man (believer) on whom We have bestowed a good provision from Us, and He spends thereof secretly and openly. Can they be equal? (By no means, not). All the praises and thanks be to Allah. Nay! (But) most of them know not.
:8[55] For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: they will not believe.ali the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they
The following was revealed regarding [Banū] Qurayza: Surely the worst of beasts in Gods sight are the ungrateful who will not believe,
Abbas : (Lo! the worst of beasts) of created beings (in Allah's sight are the ungrateful) Banu Qurayzah and others (who will not believe) in Muhammad (pbuh) and in the Qur'an;
u r right, u r so retarded. Your current responses only further support the statement, we humans only differ in piety/ god consciousness, and this is how will be judged on judgement day - no demograhic will be considered, just the character of goodness.
you need to calm down and stop hating, you bring only harm yourself.
2:221 Do not marry unbelieving women until they believe: a slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman. Even though she allure you. Nor marry (your girls) to Unbelievers until they believe: a slave man who believes is better than an Unbeliever even though he allure you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of Bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: that they may receive admonition.
Ibn Abbâs : ... believing slave woman (is better than an idolatress) ...
al-Jalalayn : O Muslims, Do not marry idolatresses, disbelievers, until they believe; a believing slavegirl is better than an idolatress ... A believing slave is better than an idolater
so I know what is the difference between a globe and FLAT map
A Globe is the only geographical representation that has negligible distortion over large areas; all flat maps are created using a map projection that inevitably introduces an increasing amount distortion the larger the area that the map shows.
well i alsob studied geometry, and I know that the -this method ( shown in this film-propaganda ) of gl's designation , works only on something flat like a rectangle
research cult called Islam I think that muslims have totally flat view on the world
Date Line - the conventional line on the map of time zone, not e magician
barrier created by Allah
if you give 1 * Get at least some education, I know that Muslims have lower intelligence quotient. but this is not an excuse of your aggressive behavior
lol i'm a muslim and its really sad to see you people trying sooo hard to make fun of Islam, we know who we are and alhamdullah we just laugh at you guys lol
keep going it wont change anything, but it shows your stupidity and ignorance :)
The kaba was made by Abraham(a.s.) on command by Allah(swt) which was taken over by the idol worshippers so islam the ultimate religion release it from the idol worshippers...............WHEN U DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE BETTER SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
your a fucking idiot, your religion has convinced you of the most moronic things a person could believe.....
do you believe adam and eve were muslims too?
bearing in mind theres nothing to prove abraham even existed, why the hell would a follower of God (or islam), create a temple devout to 360 different pagan gods?
It was not taken over by idols, we can see that due to mohammed having to destroy parts of the temple, it was BUILT FOR PAGANS, you are the idol worshippers.
It does change the geometry but not the dimensions on which this miracle has been prooved.If u go to an engineer he can explain u this..........according to u atlas that represents 3-D earth on 2-D should be wrong as well........so this is just a way of representation......and quran no where mention that earth is flat rather it say earth is egg shape which is a true geometry of earth and not a sphere.
Grid is created by the cast of the sphere to the surface tangential to the roller ball. Distortion is minimized along the line of contact and grow as far as away from it. Point of 90 ° from the line of contact has not been mapped. For maps showing the entire Earth and maps for use in marine navigation cylinder is tangential to the sphere along the equator. For military maps used tangential cylinder as close as possible to the place shown on the map.
Abraham(PBUH) existence is mentioned in old testament,new testament and The Holy Quran...........if u don't believe in this then u should not believe on the existence of Adam & Eve(PBUT) and it is true that Abraham(PBUH) built The Kaba with his son Ismael(PBUH) for the worship of one true god i.e. ALLAH(SWT) but later arabs starting worshipping idols and kept them in kaba so Muhammed(PBUH) freed it from all the idols and again started the worship of one true god i.e. ALLAH(SWT).
What idiot, here is the real video without cuts, it tells in spherical too: watch?v=vGiXmjBsNS0
IzaimO 3 weeks ago
you can also calculate this ratio on spherical surface of earth the ans would be same 1.618 ratio. dont jealous from islam;)...........
owaisoioi 1 month ago
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sun revolves around the earth
SaMiiMajnOoN 2 months ago
The map used in the calculation is a called an azimuthal or zenithal projection. These projections maintain the direction and angular relationships. So the calculation made is perfectly viable :)
aalh020 5 months ago 2
@aalh020
"calculation made is perfectly viable"
films or Islamic propaganda that contains an error ... but ok
you probably checked it, if you are so convinced in fact .... sphere has no boundaries
POW
katkol1 4 months ago
@katkol1 a zenithal map projection is not a sphere, its a 2-d rendition of a sphere, and as such, I believ it does have boundaries but that seems like im justifying it doesnt it? So lets put it aside and say that its false.
how about the other calculation made in the video? (distance of Nth pole to Mecca/Sth pole to Mecca = 1.618) what's your take on that?
aalh020 4 months ago
@katkol1 you calculate it from not pole to south pole pow pow:DD why you so jealous from islam;)
owaisoioi 1 month ago
its all pesonnel grudge against islam
abdullah0091 6 months ago
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FashionStyleEsp 8 months ago
Yes, GR works only on a flat earth. A Spherical system cannot have GR. It's meaningless. The only ratio which works on a sphere or a circle is pi. Great Work!
MrHolmboe 1 year ago
u r the one who is cheating. why u dont pick that the parts at which he takes distanse between the poles of the earth
as regarding since i can mention names of many gerat christian who become a muslim (in anatomy, plotical) i challange u 2 give me a name of muslim sinciest who became a christian. look its not a matter of mircles it a matter of minds
ahatdamha 1 year ago
this is the world most gay video on the youtubr ever and the uploader of this video is the number 1 most GAY person ever iand this song is 4 gay and this person is the fk fk dumb ass fk ginger cow fk ass btch slut whore worst person of the fkiest humans b ......... and and hes very very damn fking stupid guy with his flat world fk u man
zaidjordanzaid 1 year ago
Kaaba located at 1.618 gold mean point on earth. it's a black door to heaven ? well the Pope hold the keys to heaven not allah/muhammed.
Check out St Peters SQ - oh, the black door(moon). Moon has 1.618 relationship to earth. Cardinals are called "Hinges" i.e holding the door! 2 foundtains to door handle make Golden Triangle 1.1618 :)
St Peter holds the keys to heaven my friend, and runs your religion behind the veil - or is that Kiswa??
navioascott 1 year ago
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Kaaba located at 1.618 gold mean point on earth. it's a black door to heaven ? well the Pope hold the keys to heaven not allah/muhammed.
Check out St Peters SQ - oh, the black door(moon). Moon has 1.618 relationship to earth. Cardinals are called "Hinges" i.e holding the door! 2 foundtains to door handle make Golden Triangle 1.1618 :)
St Peter holds the keys to heaven my friend, and runs your religion behind the veil - or is that Kiswa??
navioascott 1 year ago
you disproove it on real scientific way :/
BehremB 1 year ago
Scientists frame the 3D Earth into 2D plane for a very long time. And the scientific method to do this for north-south we use poles. That is natural borders of map but for west-east we use longitude, an idea made up by science.
For example, If you cross over from Russia(Siberia) to USA(Alaska), it would jump 24 hours ahead in terms of calcualtion because scitienst accept that line as the start/end of map.
Janlssary 1 year ago
why don't any one to do it by him/her self ?!
stareng0 1 year ago
for many people Islam is not acceptable so they cannot accept any thing. Every one knows that Islam is most fast growing religion. if u are not agree then please look around
155aliraza 1 year ago
@155aliraza
and what I see.... atheists
lol
katkol1 1 year ago
@katkol1
what u mean?
155aliraza 1 year ago
Fake
minkirax 1 year ago
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Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 61:8
ovtidose 1 year ago
Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 61:8
ovtidose 1 year ago
as GOD says die from your grudge , islam is the fastest growing religion on earth , it's unstoppable , again die from your grudge .
freeamericaneagle 1 year ago
@freeamericaneagle
from the perspective of Islamic countries is the fastest dying religion, but don't weep
is the hope that islam will depart with flood of Islamic Spam ^
katkol1 1 year ago
@freeamericaneagle Always with the fucking 'fastest growing religion' argument. Ever wondered why many people want to leave islam but don't? Maybe it's because the penalty for apostasy is death? You and your fucking cult.
I'll tell you one thing, you're forgetting the advancements in science. Look at what we have accomplished only over a few centuries since the scientific revolution.
Give it some more time, and god is not needed anymore to explain things. Tough shit.
robbegx 10 months ago
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kmuse1713 1 year ago
thanks
I am naw infidel
Allahhell 1 year ago
Great video for the charlatans and uneducated muslims that want to play the role of scientists, using fantasy and misleading. The golden ratio on Mecca is hoax. It is a lie that has intentions to increase the falling faith of muslims.. Maybe the islamists think that Islam can't survive without lies.. :-)
Flixogas 1 year ago
The best example is Naik ... he lying to uneducated audience ... small risk , that most of muslims from this region are ignorant in fact
katkol1 1 year ago
@HighFlyingDouchebag
... and the information provided in this propaganda is false, mecca is not on g.r.p.- 1.61803399, muslims not even checked this information
katkol1 1 year ago
there are videos on yt manually showing it on google earth
they do not reach the exact number 1.61803399 but close
HighFlyingDutchman 1 year ago
the problem is such that the entire Islamic propaganda is full of lies and bias, if you distribute them being aware of it, that makes you slippery guy with double moral standards in the first place .... ( ..... not Christians )
* you will die and disappear or worse *
and you will go to paradise with all hypocrites , because this keeps you with Islam - fear and desperation
katkol1 1 year ago
i am not sure about the place i will go to
i can not be
All people who claim to be Muslims do not go to paradise
plus even if you are a very good Muslim,you can always loose until the death comes
i dont lie about anything
lets say that,if i make up a video including an amazing miracle related to Islam and convince someone and he converts to Islam,it is pointless
somebody has to grasp Islam in his heart completely to become a Muslim
already,only God can guide you,not a video or a book
peace
HighFlyingDutchman 1 year ago
I see lots of children that are deceived by the propaganda, if you think it is ok ..... this is your moral - support a lie don't search for excuses that you don't take part in this , lie to yourself ....... fortunately most of them leave Islam when thay get bored of a new toy .... but this game with children's minds is slippery ,simple
katkol1 1 year ago
HighFlyingDutchman 1 year ago
The advantage of a globe is the lack of distortion that occurs when mapping the image area (maps) on the flat plane.
diagonal is wrong designated, and a globe has no borders :)
more : watch?v=-LUjqgiQsHk
I understand it, you are desperate , you are to me just a poor person
which requires psychiatric treatment ... so do not waste my time
katkol1 1 year ago
the video is talking about the world map used today at that point
and you know it
everyone knows it
so you are just disturbed by this and you have nothing to refute it and the only way you have found is trying to humiliate it
but you made fun of yourself thats right folks
HighFlyingDutchman 1 year ago
This video tells about errors that occur on the map but not in the globe, this islamic propaganda is designed for ignorant who do not know about it
do you know the difference between a map and a globe ???
probably ... no lol
katkol1 1 year ago
yea
also i believe that earth is flat
also i will bomb innocent people
lol to you
go watch the video more carefully
and yes
stop wasting your time
there is nothing you can change
HighFlyingDutchman 1 year ago
running away from the subject, of course, you don't know what is the difference and why the errors on the map are always, atheism is growing and the only thing you can do is push your fingers in your ears and scream allalalhlalalalalalalalalalaal
happy brainwashing, Islam needs you
katkol1 1 year ago
HighFlyingDutchman 1 year ago
@HighFlyingDutchman He is quite clearly illustrating the false ideology some muslims are using to convert people to their religion. They could, instead of taking this an insult, actually take it as constructive criticism and start, I don't know, telling the truth?
kmuse1713 1 year ago
what are you doing?? your making fun of yourself
afglionheart 1 year ago
lol
Just listen to your propaganda
katkol1 1 year ago
lol your still making fun of your self..
afglionheart 1 year ago
...... repeat the same thing over and over again surely allah will reward you for this beating around the bush
katkol1 1 year ago
what are you talking about? funny guy i said your making fun of your self ahh who cares??
afglionheart 1 year ago
third time you repeat the same sentence, expand your mind, why I am funny .... girl
do you know cartography and geometry, do you know what is the difference between a map and a globe ....
katkol1 1 year ago
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shut up fool!
mrhazeem 2 years ago
do you always start the "intellectual" conversations in this way ?
lol
katkol1 2 years ago
seeing you make a fool of yourself like this really makes me think that there really might be something there.
point is still is mecca, what are the odds?
pakirockstarz 2 years ago
Excellent work - and funny too!!!
*****
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
thanx :)
katkol1 2 years ago
Actually it works on Google Earth too. They showed a 2D image for 2 reasons.
1: It's easier to explain.
2: It's easier to make it look accurate when counting pixels than it is to plot the exact location in Google Earth.
The point *IS* in Mecca, but 277.4KM from the Ka'bah.
watch?v=UL95TnxD5Ak
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Note: Legal jurisdiction of Mecca, NOT the CITY of Mecca!
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
wow we're getting technical now are we? fuckin retard
mayyma 2 years ago
I am just stating facts.
It is NOWHERE NEAR the city of Mecca.
In what way is 277,400 metres *near* something in your mind?
That's nearly 2/3 of the width of England, and larger than many countries.
Just face the facts, this "miracle" is bogus.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
i second that
macgameworkarounds 2 years ago
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Did you watch my video on the subject?
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
i guess the video is stupid, the miracle thing, but dont you think that if god was pregnant and had a son called jessus is even more retarted... earth is not flatt btw dumbass
djmakerz 2 years ago
I think that all these religious things, has the same lovel like the legend about "The Pied Piper of Hamelin"
"Earth is not Flatt btw dumbass"
fortunately, this guy who created this movie ... he probably do not know what is a map LOL
and what is the difference between a globe and a map
and gives next proof that religion is for non-educated people and idiots
katkol1 2 years ago
you ass you totally missed the point. that was the comedy point stating that the calculations in the mecca video you be correct IF the world was flat. know about what your commenting on before you post jack ass
macgameworkarounds 2 years ago
only when the earth is flat AND even then they made a measuring mistake
Islamic miracles is always a disaster
katkol1 2 years ago
thanx :)
"sometimes by changing the actual words, adding non-existing words etc,"
Yes, unfortunately, this phenomenon , "al-Taqiyya" is widespread in the whole youtube.
katkol1 2 years ago
U seem to have rushed in conclusions too quickly in your video.. Prove us that the people in the original video say wron. If so, then so what, it is possible. .But that does not mean it affects our faith, there are already unvaluable evidences that God is real. Islam is His religion and it has been here since the creation of the Universe.. So, please let's have an intelligent debate here instead of unconstructed, light passionate arguments like yours seem to be...
pmous 2 years ago
The first thought is the most accurate and the best
"Islam is His religion and it has been here since the creation of the Universe"
yes, and the Earth as a flat pancake
katkol1 2 years ago
Genianle! Masz talent! i ta muzyczka z Benny Hill, miodzio!
MadameBoheme 2 years ago
thank you :)
katkol1 2 years ago
WELL DONE katkol1.
And really funny too.
Brdstfff 2 years ago 2
thanx :)
katkol1 2 years ago
Great vid! Thanks for exposing this lame brain miracle. LMFAO!!! If anything, it was a miracle of Pagans who actually built the Kaaba!
FuryOfMsMarvel 2 years ago 2
thanx fury
:)
katkol1 2 years ago
macce is on the golden mean point between the poles, that is undisputed. so are the abu simbel tempeles in egypt. i am a jew by the way but i still find this intresting.
nazareneson37 2 years ago
"macce is on the golden mean point between the poles"
and "millions" of smaller objects
like Mr. jeamsa's latrine . proportions of the latrines in the construction , also have much in common with golden ratio
mircle of latrine ???
katkol1 2 years ago
whatever loser.
abzstock 2 years ago
true. i do realize there are thousands of places on earth that are on this latitude i just think that it is intresting that mecca is as well. it is a major religious center and i wonder what there drew people to it or was it sheer coincidense.
nazareneson37 2 years ago
I know that the search for miracles is more funny than flip and flap, and Islam reached the championship in creating miracles with ordinary thinks
dont Forget miracles from 'life of brian'
watch?v=krb2OdQksMc
miracle of islam is more funny
katkol1 2 years ago
*your
abzstock 2 years ago
LOL
ofreshartist 2 years ago
@ofresh...
you are right to be laughing, so am i, what a ridiculousdebunk vid LOL...just read the comments below...and also note this is just a bs shift ... read the bible, it says the world is flat and circular...like a disk...lol...but from a 2d perspective thats right, no doubt, but the Holy Quran is more descriptive - as in stating its like an ostrich egg, not completely sperical as it spreads out from the sides...
Sad that this discovery seems to fuel some Islamophobia.
abzstock 2 years ago
One thing at a time we can talk about the bible the word of God in a sec. what about the qur'an and this so called miracle hum..?
ofreshartist 2 years ago
TO address the staement that someone the bible says the earth is flat that a lie. In Job 26:7 The servant of God Job says the earth is hung upon nothing; and in Isaiah 40:22 says, the earth is in appearance a circle (Isaiah is not saying the earth is flat) and the universe is stretched out like a curtian.(Proverbs 8:27-27When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:) makes it clear the earth is round.
ofreshartist 2 years ago
i would not go so far and say it is a lie...(New International Version)
Revelation 20:8 ...and will go out to deceive the nations in the FOUR CORNERS of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore....
Acts 10:11
He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners...
abzstock 2 years ago
Revelation 7:1
[ 144,000 Sealed ] After this I saw four angels standing at the FOUR CORNERS of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.
abzstock 2 years ago
Four corner is in reference to the four directions : east,west,north,south. Also four winds is in reference to the four directions.
ofreshartist 2 years ago
Are you serious? Four corners is in reference to the directions of earth : west,north,east,south. People say "sun down" do people really believe the sun is going down? No. (36And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds;-Jeremiah 49:36) The only way wind comes in fours is directions.
ofreshartist 2 years ago
Acts 10:11 (King James Version) "11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:"
Four corners is talking about the object descending NOT the earth itself..."and let down to the earth:"
ofreshartist 2 years ago
what is this object exactly...a sheet containing animals 4 footed, reptiles and birds...i think animals were put across the globe...or as the reference "and let down to earth by its (earths) for corners...but anyway, lets say you are right...
abzstock 2 years ago
and maybe i'm reading into it too far...but...the following is from dr naik's debate with dr cambell....Matthew 4 (New International Version) 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
- on even the highest mountain you could not see all the kingdoms-i.e.those on the otherside of the planet...unless ofcourse the world was flat...
abzstock 2 years ago
Daniel 4 (New International Version) 10 These are the visions I saw while lying in my bed: I looked, and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous. 11 The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
ends of earth???
abzstock 2 years ago
it is the same principle, even if a tree grew so high, people on the otherside of the world will not be able to see it...
1 Chronicles 16 (New International Version)
30 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved... or
Psalm 93 (New International Version) 1 The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved. ... hmmmm, the ball is in your court
abzstock 2 years ago
Psalm 93 Is saying the world is stablished by God not flat.
1 Chronicles 16:31 is controlled by God again, it's not flat.
ofreshartist 2 years ago
i am not disputing god stabilises the world... what i am in dispute of is that the bible says the world does not move...cannot be moved - yet it is moving all the time.
abzstock 2 years ago
"cannot be moved" does that mean the earth does not move? or that God has full control of the world? In both verses it talking about God authority and control over the earth , yet you somehow think it means the earth does not move?
ofreshartist 2 years ago
the lines that repeat...The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved...in context of the rest of the verse, people on earth, tremble or fear god! the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved - if world means earth then yes, the bible states it cannot move.
abzstock 2 years ago
Daniel saw a vision , the tree was enomous and very large, Daniel could be refering to it's size that it could seen over a vast amount of land.
ofreshartist 2 years ago
The devil could have shown him in a vision the kingdoms of the earth.
ofreshartist 2 years ago
WOW a lot of text and hypotheses
I just write
"allah made earth flat"
ahahah
nothing more nothing less
katkol1 2 years ago
Sure, but logically tell me how?
abzstock 2 years ago
the question still stands...how COULD (as you put it) this be done. I tried answering this question too, for the devil...it could have been miswritten/interpreted and should be either mountain S or a mountain on another planet that oversees earth. As for the tree, its branches would have to go all around the world. Who knows huh.
abzstock 2 years ago
Dr zakir Naik is a liar .I created a 2 videos about him and his bullshits
katkol1 2 years ago
lol, are they as shit as this vid?
abzstock 2 years ago
you are idiot man
that word does not mean
" made the earth egg shaped Ostrich "
Learn Arabic
this mean spread it out and flatten it out
this is taqiyya , you using this tactic
it is a reinterpretation of the word meaning, change the content of Koran , ,They wanted to hide the errors this change-CORRUPT occurred in the 80's years,by
Rashad Khalifa
ahhahaha
everywhere in the Qur'an you have a flat earth ,even this miracle is flat
katkol1 2 years ago
watch?v=_Iu60ClSMgk
I'm sorry for you dislike to Islam, the fastest growing religion in the world.
abzstock 2 years ago
atheism growing faster than any belief system
75% of New Muslims become Apostates
Goodbye jinn ,flat earth and "evolution is just a theory"
katkol1 2 years ago
atheism is a believe system that disbelieves in divinity...sad but true...Hitler, Stalin or Mao all atheist...all mass murderers...
abzstock 2 years ago
muhammad ( islam )
over 250.000.000 victims
and is growing all the time
katkol1 2 years ago
Lame reponse, why don't you just add up the mass murder from the elites...what happened to the native americans, what happened across africa and asia, seriously who do you really think are the killersand it just continues... racism. In Islam we are all equal, just like the teeth on a comb - we only differ by piety.
abzstock 2 years ago
"In Islam we are all equal"
You are a liar like typical muslim
Men, women and slave
These person are not equal in Islam
katkol1 2 years ago
you probably got me wrong like a lot thing, but let me explain. God created us and sees us equally - no man, woman, or slave is different as they are all humans- only by god consciousness do we differ, and those of us knowledged and practiced are the better of us. Others may be distanced from god by the devil. In that sense, if we are firstly considered equal, then we should treat each other equally, like Jesus's parable about neighboors and equal treatment. Watch 'The Message' to understand.
abzstock 2 years ago
katkol1 2 years ago
2:221 - Those (who embraced Islam from Bani Israel) to whom We gave the Book [the Taurat (Torah)] [or those (Muhammad's Peace be upon him companions) to whom We have given the Book (the Qur'an)] recite it (i.e. obey its orders and follow its teachings) as it should be recited (i.e. followed), they are the ones that believe therein. And whoso disbelieves in it (the Qur'an), those are they who are the losers. (Tafsir Al-Qurtubi. Vol. 2, Page 95).
abzstock 2 years ago
2:178 - O you who believe! Al-Qisas (the Law of Equality in punishment) is prescribed for you in case of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But if the killer is forgiven by the brother (or the relatives, etc.) of the killed against blood money, then adhering to it with fairness and payment of the blood money, to the heir should be made in fairness. This is an alleviation and a mercy from your Lord.
abzstock 2 years ago
continued... So after this whoever transgresses the limits (i.e. kills the killer after taking the blood money), he shall have a painful torment.
abzstock 2 years ago
16:74. So put not forward similitudes for Allah (as there is nothing similar to Him, nor He resembles anything). Truly! Allah knows and you know not.
abzstock 2 years ago
16:75 - Allah puts forward the example (of two men a believer and a disbeliever); a slave (disbeliever) under the possession of another, he has no power of any sort, and (the other), a man (believer) on whom We have bestowed a good provision from Us, and He spends thereof secretly and openly. Can they be equal? (By no means, not). All the praises and thanks be to Allah. Nay! (But) most of them know not.
abzstock 2 years ago
8:55 - Verily, The worst of moving (living) creatures before Allah are those who disbelieve , - so they shall not believe.
Now as you can all see, the references do not denote hierarchy - what they do indicate is that katkol1 is a liar.
abzstock 2 years ago
" إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَابِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا فَهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ "
:8[55] For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: they will not believe.ali the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they
would not believe
? and to what, refers
katkol1 2 years ago
Tafsir al-Jalalayn 8:55
The following was revealed regarding [Banū] Qurayza: Surely the worst of beasts in Gods sight are the ungrateful who will not believe,
Abbas : (Lo! the worst of beasts) of created beings (in Allah's sight are the ungrateful) Banu Qurayzah and others (who will not believe) in Muhammad (pbuh) and in the Qur'an;
katkol1 2 years ago
Buddhist is not a slave is a free man and has in the ass your fucking god , and his retarded example with a slave
katkol1 2 years ago
so retarded .
fuck islam and slavery
katkol1 2 years ago
u r right, u r so retarded. Your current responses only further support the statement, we humans only differ in piety/ god consciousness, and this is how will be judged on judgement day - no demograhic will be considered, just the character of goodness.
you need to calm down and stop hating, you bring only harm yourself.
abzstock 2 years ago
2:221 Do not marry unbelieving women until they believe: a slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman. Even though she allure you. Nor marry (your girls) to Unbelievers until they believe: a slave man who believes is better than an Unbeliever even though he allure you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of Bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: that they may receive admonition.
katkol1 2 years ago
Tafsirs 2:221 :
Ibn Abbâs : ... believing slave woman (is better than an idolatress) ...
al-Jalalayn : O Muslims, Do not marry idolatresses, disbelievers, until they believe; a believing slavegirl is better than an idolatress ... A believing slave is better than an idolater
katkol1 2 years ago
millions of deaths that was the result of an ideology created by muhammad is for you "Lame"
you are a muslim You have fully responsible for this,as the coward runs away from that responsibilit.
Like all Nazis is responsible for concentration camps .
and atheism does not equal to Nazism
fuck your theories islam is islam aheism is atheism komunis is komunism ...
I know that muslim, have problems with such a simple understanding
katkol1 2 years ago
i see you are upset - sorry for that. My opinion is different from yours.
may god have mercy on you.
abzstock 2 years ago
did you ever take geography class ?
lifeh0use 2 years ago
yes
so I know what is the difference between a globe and FLAT map
A Globe is the only geographical representation that has negligible distortion over large areas; all flat maps are created using a map projection that inevitably introduces an increasing amount distortion the larger the area that the map shows.
katkol1 2 years ago
well i alsob studied geometry, and I know that the -this method ( shown in this film-propaganda ) of gl's designation , works only on something flat like a rectangle
research cult called Islam I think that muslims have totally flat view on the world
katkol1 2 years ago
The International Date Line (IDL)
Date Line - the conventional line on the map of time zone, not e magician
barrier created by Allah
if you give 1 * Get at least some education, I know that Muslims have lower intelligence quotient. but this is not an excuse of your aggressive behavior
katkol1 2 years ago
lol i'm a muslim and its really sad to see you people trying sooo hard to make fun of Islam, we know who we are and alhamdullah we just laugh at you guys lol
keep going it wont change anything, but it shows your stupidity and ignorance :)
binghanem25 2 years ago
" i'm a muslim "
yes, i recognized that you are a muslim ,
your comment ( blah blah ) is empty like your head
katkol1 2 years ago
Nice video,Katya.
I like to see younger people like you,exposing islam with ease.Its not difficult though cos quran gives people all the ammo they need.
Hate will turn on itself,always.
Hitler,Nero,Mohammad,Mussolini,etc,etc,etc.
Keep on going,Katya.
Ochen horasho,spaziba.
Shalom,Peace to you : )
TheAnav 2 years ago 2
thanx :)
katkol1 2 years ago
best part of all, the kaaba-mecca didnt even belong to the muslims, they hijacked it from the arab pagans.
so that means Hubal was the real god? sounds like it.
godlessmessiah 2 years ago 6
I just wait for the next Islamic miracle
it is become more and more pitiful and ridiculous
katkol1 2 years ago
check out my series called "dissecting Islam". you may enjoy it
(3 parts so far and more on the way)
godlessmessiah 2 years ago 3
The kaba was made by Abraham(a.s.) on command by Allah(swt) which was taken over by the idol worshippers so islam the ultimate religion release it from the idol worshippers...............WHEN U DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE BETTER SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
mhadnan007 2 years ago
your a fucking idiot, your religion has convinced you of the most moronic things a person could believe.....
do you believe adam and eve were muslims too?
bearing in mind theres nothing to prove abraham even existed, why the hell would a follower of God (or islam), create a temple devout to 360 different pagan gods?
It was not taken over by idols, we can see that due to mohammed having to destroy parts of the temple, it was BUILT FOR PAGANS, you are the idol worshippers.
godlessmessiah 2 years ago
but this does not change the fact that muslims not know the geometry
and do not know what it is map and a globe ( What's the difference between them )
as shown in this propaganda video
hahhah
katkol1 2 years ago
It does change the geometry but not the dimensions on which this miracle has been prooved.If u go to an engineer he can explain u this..........according to u atlas that represents 3-D earth on 2-D should be wrong as well........so this is just a way of representation......and quran no where mention that earth is flat rather it say earth is egg shape which is a true geometry of earth and not a sphere.
mhadnan007 2 years ago
flat map
Grid is created by the cast of the sphere to the surface tangential to the roller ball. Distortion is minimized along the line of contact and grow as far as away from it. Point of 90 ° from the line of contact has not been mapped. For maps showing the entire Earth and maps for use in marine navigation cylinder is tangential to the sphere along the equator. For military maps used tangential cylinder as close as possible to the place shown on the map.
katkol1 2 years ago
which verse of quran says that earth is flat........u give me that verse if u hav any.
mhadnan007 2 years ago
back to school
you dont now how look like grid of ball sphere
hahahhaa
This is not a rectangle jerk !!!!!!
diagonal measured on the basis of rectangle, means that who is doing this film has no idea about grid of the spheres
katkol1 2 years ago
Rashad Khalifa "egg-shaped", and his
heretical version of the Koran
This guy also remove ayahs from the koran
so fuck ONE false translation
flat earth described in the orginal Qur'an
click more info in the description
box
salam
katkol1 2 years ago
Abraham(PBUH) existence is mentioned in old testament,new testament and The Holy Quran...........if u don't believe in this then u should not believe on the existence of Adam & Eve(PBUT) and it is true that Abraham(PBUH) built The Kaba with his son Ismael(PBUH) for the worship of one true god i.e. ALLAH(SWT) but later arabs starting worshipping idols and kept them in kaba so Muhammed(PBUH) freed it from all the idols and again started the worship of one true god i.e. ALLAH(SWT).
mhadnan007 2 years ago
which does not change the fact. that in this islamic comercial is geometric error, which confirms that the earth is flat in the Qur'an
such things should be done only on the globe
advantage of the Globue is the lack of distortion, that occurs when show image earth's area on the FLAT map.
katkol1 2 years ago
All these verses even this miricle support a Flat earth model that the Quran is describing ---- >
click ( more info )
katkol1 2 years ago
LOL
typical Islamic flat end
lordjinns 2 years ago 11