Our government is Broken. Keep preparing for collapse. Wed morning 1/4

[goldenknight777]

No shit it's broken, been that way for how long?

[clearasvodka]

Maybe maybe maybe... This debt ridden rat trap ship has sailed on for years and it aint gonna adjust its coarse so we may as well sink it!

[cassanoa]

hi Carl even with tariffs and intensives - there will be the problem that china has all of Americas factories ( except yours ) and will not give them back - they will keep all the machines and go into full out copy cat mode - they will not respect patents or copy rights or any thing - at that point the Chinese will lose it and pull out all the stops

[freestate239]

The US sovereign debt is not real Karl. Some politicians are starting to realize it. We will be at or close to $20 trillion within two years. It is game over soon. I love this country but $20 trillion is bull shit. We should throw some of these politicians in prison.

[ThisIsDCOg]

Karl - what formula do you use to set your stop loss?

[Stokjockey]

Ron Paul keep supporting him so the right message gets out to the SHEEP !!!

[Stokjockey]

Karl that is FAUX News to us.

[GuildF40]

Just a suggestion

Watch out here folks Greece is on about leaving the Euro & that will cause a massive $ rally. My humble guess a PM smash down. All short term BS of course.

Happy 2012

[BR98133]

Bankruptcy or hyper inflation are not the only options. Read the “Simpson Bowles report”, reasonable changes to medicare, Sensible adjustments to Military spending and sunsetting the “Bush Tax cuts” would get us out of this crisis mode (although there would still be work to do. Look up the report (I think it may be titled : Moment of Truth”).  The graphs in the report make it easy to understand.

[TheWildbill242]

Buy Gold, Buy Silver.

[jamphellhamo]

there is now way to pay off the debt - the idea of inflation being used to pay off debt is not possible -

[deanmat]

What if they just don't pay off the debt? Default or inflation are the ways out of massive debt. But what if massive debt has just become the norm? Can it be sustained? What stops it from being sustained?

[D33Lux]

Once again we're all being screwed by these oligarch's who have done the same thing over & over again throughout history.They're going to steal as much gold & resources as they can, implode the economy, send the suckers to go fight a war & then these scum who started all this will hide in their billion dollar bunkers while the world destroy themselves. Once everything is wiped out they emerge from their bunkers & start over with all the gold in hand & no one to oppose them. Boycott banks!

[123minder]

Print and be damned!

[ilovejimrogers]

broken just like Japan and look how far they can kick the can down the road....!

[chineechik]

When the collapse happens you need one gun and one bullet......there is no future after that

[desertgreek]

how do you feel about diversification, Colt Carbine, Springfield 1911, bushmaster bar 10,Springfield m1a1, Bushmaster ar 15 A3, ruger 10/22, Desert eagle 50 cal. How can you go wrong, they are allways going to be worth money, and they can be used for fun in the meantime. Silver and Gold are cool, but you really cant have any fun with them? unless your weird? Happy New Year, lets hope for the best, and let us know how the RE trip went.

[bullorbearreport]

@desertgreek I'm all for that kind of diversification also. I have my own personal collection of XDM-45, Glocks, Bushmasters, Sig Sauer P556 Swat Pistol... etc.... As I constantly say, diversification and prepare for the worst & hope for the best. Thanks for the post.

[thetimman00]

Pick up your ax man.

[bullorbearreport]

@thetimman00 I have to learn. I can play some basic chords, C, D, E, A, Aminor etc... but I need more time to play. when the collapse happens I'll have plenty of time then.. ;-)

[babaloo42]

They laid the tracks for this economy straight towards a cliff and they won't tell the people on the passenger train that they built the bridge out of paper. Looks good as long as you don't need to use it. There not trying to stop the train either cuz it's all by design. Toot toot...poof.

[bullorbearreport]

@babaloo42 I agree with that analogy. Paper bridge in the horizon. 100% accurate. Thanks.

[Chismoso7]

Carl, I see a civil war written on the wall. Try to find a safehaven, Australia, New Zealand or even some South American countries show a better future than America.

[bullorbearreport]

@Chismoso7 With family in the US a kids to raise, that is a very tough option. A single person can easily pull that off. Thanks for the suggestion. 

[quadcatfly]

@bullorbearreport No. I am in Chile (now) and I see lots of US families move up here with kids. Economy is booming and healthcare is excellent. Dont count it out !

[jsmythib]

@Chismoso7 Stay.

[chop98]

Oh! And one more quick note. The whole thing is to undermine American confidence so they lose faith in the current representative government system. While the answer is to jail these morons and install regular folks (not lawyers) into the function of government. 13th Amendment at one point was written so lawyers couldn't hold office. This is the reason why. They corrupt and rob the system at a national level just like they do locally.

[chop98]

Funny thing is that Washington, D.C. is the one that is broke. They hold absolutely no assets on their property unless it under or by the barrel of a gun. That's what this de facto government has done since 1913. We could go back further in history with documents, but people don't wanna see the truth. Point is... we just cut them loose and let the banksters deal with the rest of the world seizing their assets and attacking those families for the money. It's that simple.

[BITARTEN]

Systemic Collapse!!!

[bullorbearreport]

@BITARTEN Yes. Once banks start to collapse the entire system comes crumbling down. Because the banks, government and paper currencies are all tied together. Once one goes down they all implode.. So the solution is inflate or default & collapse. Which do you think these weak politicians will choose??

[BITARTEN]

@bullorbearreport Well, it seems they have already chosen to inflate.

What do you thing it could happen if there is a war in the Persian Gulf?.

Best wishes!

[chrism20]

The US / EURO has like a 52% weighting of the FX market, if the Euro prints, then the USD goes up, if the US dollar prints more, the EURO goes Up. Point is, currencies don't collapse together, it's impossible. This whole idea that all currencies are going to fall together and silver and gold to the moon is just not correct. On top of that, take a look at what the Swiss Central Bank last year. If you think that type of behavior is going away, you are incorrect.

[chop98]

@chrism20 You are obviously unaware that the same people running the banks here are the same people running the banks there. It's a two-edged sword now. Looking at Swiss banks is a bad idea. That's where the BIS is. That's the top of the banking side of this. If you don't hold tangible (at least for a x amount of years) assets, then you're gonna be in for a world of hurt. We're past conspiracy theory with this crap. It's an outright conspiracy at this point.

[vambo13257]

@chrism20 Fiat currencies are a sham and have been since the gold standard was shitcanned. One fiat may look better against the rest but it is still crap! Will all Fiats collapse at the same moment, probably not but that does not have to happen to send Gold and Silver to record highs!

[stealinator]

Anyone have a link to that interview with Napolitano ??

[BiggerThinking1]

whats the problem shorting treasuries for 10 years? Is it the interest charged on your "borrowed" shorts before you cover that eats you up, or is it the margin calls when it goes the wrong way? Or both?

[BiggerThinking1]

How many people are storing some PMs offshore in case of confiscation?

[Pfsif]

Printing is the cowards way out, so that means they are printing.

[charlesfuchs]

Hmmm i might get hate for this. Most people who prepare for collapse live in fear and will be broke the rest of their lives... while the people who see a huge opportunity in a collapse become the most successful down the road.. More millionaires are created in times of collapse and depressions. You can be like demcad or you can be successful.

[bullorbearreport]

@charlesfuchs I'm not saying live in fear and hide. Just keep in your mind that the system is broken beyond repair. So we make as much money as we can while trends allow but keep investing in Gold, Silver and getting on sound financial ground for when the collapse really intensifies. Right now is just a cover up.

[sanctiX]

@charlesfuchs You live in the past pal...It's funny how people have hard time to see the global changes. The 50's are gone and will not come back. The world is round and limited therefore the possibilities are lmited, if you dont understand that simple relation you are a moron.

[GypsyHustled]

@charlesfuchs

Demcad is insane, he wastes his life collecting junk he thinks will save him. He lives in fantasy world as far as I'm concerned.

[JP5466]

@charlesfuchs Demcad is actually making money off prepping and fear. He has many subs and gets a nice check from YT every month. That's how he bought all his guns. However, I don't think anyone would ever hire him again because of his YT vids (too radical for the average person). Employeers now pull up your Facebook and Youtube accounts... that's why I don't mess with Facebook or make YT vids... it's suicide.

[quadcatfly]

@charlesfuchs successful doing what? share some ideas....

[bunkermunk]

Dow will be making new all time highs by election day in Nov.

After that watch out!

[bullorbearreport]

@bunkermunk Quite possible. That's why I'm cautiously long with trailing profit stops.

[madderthanalex]

Watch this "bullorbear". It will help you to see whats coming.

LaRouchePAC Presidential Strategy January 3, 2012

[Larkinchance]

Ideally, the big banks would like to redirect the entire tax revenue stream to them.. fuck everything else.

The so-called "job creators" are not investing here in the US.. They're investing in Asia.  Should they get a tax break for doing that?

Invest here in the US and then get a tax break...

[bigrsoul]

Some pundits are saying that tptb are going to stretch this collapse well into 2013, your thoughts please.

[bullorbearreport]

@bigrsoul They might be right. But only the market's will tell us for sure. I watch price action very carefully as they are the tea leaves to the future of the economy. If the markets start to collapse that probably means the depression is coming faster.

[bigrsoul]

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