i run a k-tec 1453 scraper (biggest one).. we had a jd 9630 w/ 530 hp got rid of it and got a cih steiger 485 and it pulls really good (3 times better then deere's 9630), the jd is way too under powered and isn't heavy enough.
thats a good vid it looks like farmers r trying to move dirt lol
but what was the total heaped yards on the tandems and do u like them better than running push pull scaper setups, i kno that tractors and pans r cheap to buy but r they realy that durable and will they ever last long enough to pay off ???
Yes the hitch weight has been lowered but to keep it in the acceptable weight transfer range you should use the tractor hitch that K-Tec has designed.
I purchased a KTec 3100 last year after pulling tandem Reynolds and Ashland's the KTec is far superior to both and I have to say I do not fell I will ever pull tandems again based on our current production.Not only has the wear and tear been reduced on the tractor, it is much easier to maintain only one scraper. In comparison specifically to a tandem setup, we are able to load/unload faster and easier--with the faster cycle time we are more productive.
It is true that the first few 3100's that were built had too much hitch weight, we changed the design to correct this issue. With the K-Tec hitch and the current design of scrapers we fall within the acceptable weight transfers.
i have pulled all scrapers and i want to let you guys know what an impressive job you have done. i know that the 1225 through 3100 will load way easier than my miskins and ashlands. i disagree about axle issues, because when you are trying to pull two 18 yard scrapers, i feel it is way more wearandtear on tractor than one larger bowl, because you are hauling all that weight all the time. my cycle time and productivity is up with one ktec verse my other tandem bowls. fuel is down 4 gal an hour
How do you explain the 34,800lbs of transfer weight onto the rear axle of the tractor. We had a linear hanging scale mounted onto a excavator hooked directly onto your hitch pin of a fully loaded 3100. Underslung Hitch?? All tractors STX TJ JD have long drawbars. My Case dealer told me the STX allowable weight 21,000 lbs. your 3100 with 2500lb dirt + scraper weight at 25% transfer weight is 29,400 lbs. 4 tons more than warranty allows for new tractors.
Actually the way these are hooked up the weight on the back axle of the tractor is less then the 18 yrd pans, these scrapers have an underslung hitch that hooks on in front of the rear axle
I hope CASE IH factory guys don't see this. I've LOST alot of money on what should have been covered by warranty. Rear Axles, seals and transmissions. All failures because of to much weight on the rear of the tractor. BUYERS BEWARE!!!!!!!
i run a k-tec 1453 scraper (biggest one).. we had a jd 9630 w/ 530 hp got rid of it and got a cih steiger 485 and it pulls really good (3 times better then deere's 9630), the jd is way too under powered and isn't heavy enough.
caseih535hd 2 years ago
thats a good vid it looks like farmers r trying to move dirt lol
but what was the total heaped yards on the tandems and do u like them better than running push pull scaper setups, i kno that tractors and pans r cheap to buy but r they realy that durable and will they ever last long enough to pay off ???
evshaw 3 years ago
What is the opinion of tractor companies push loading?
dirtprofessionals 3 years ago
it aint necessary, Ive seen John deere tractors pull two of those scrapers and both get loaded up just fine.
just cant take so much out of a small area but if you dont try to get a quick fill in the same area each time your sweet.
rhodesta 3 years ago
those were huge loads and without the push tractor i doubt he would have hauled that much.
you will get loaded without being pushed but it takes alot longer and the load wont be as big.
i owned 30 srcapers, 627,631,637
vontrop 3 years ago
AWSOME CUMMINS POWER!!
maplemanz 3 years ago
Yes the hitch weight has been lowered but to keep it in the acceptable weight transfer range you should use the tractor hitch that K-Tec has designed.
warkly 3 years ago
warkly, so you current new hitch on your 3100 is less than what it used to be? And it's fine for my 450?
dirtprofessionals 3 years ago
I purchased a KTec 3100 last year after pulling tandem Reynolds and Ashland's the KTec is far superior to both and I have to say I do not fell I will ever pull tandems again based on our current production.Not only has the wear and tear been reduced on the tractor, it is much easier to maintain only one scraper. In comparison specifically to a tandem setup, we are able to load/unload faster and easier--with the faster cycle time we are more productive.
snowpromod 3 years ago
It is true that the first few 3100's that were built had too much hitch weight, we changed the design to correct this issue. With the K-Tec hitch and the current design of scrapers we fall within the acceptable weight transfers.
warkly 3 years ago
i have pulled all scrapers and i want to let you guys know what an impressive job you have done. i know that the 1225 through 3100 will load way easier than my miskins and ashlands. i disagree about axle issues, because when you are trying to pull two 18 yard scrapers, i feel it is way more wearandtear on tractor than one larger bowl, because you are hauling all that weight all the time. my cycle time and productivity is up with one ktec verse my other tandem bowls. fuel is down 4 gal an hour
miskinmadness 3 years ago
How do you explain the 34,800lbs of transfer weight onto the rear axle of the tractor. We had a linear hanging scale mounted onto a excavator hooked directly onto your hitch pin of a fully loaded 3100. Underslung Hitch?? All tractors STX TJ JD have long drawbars. My Case dealer told me the STX allowable weight 21,000 lbs. your 3100 with 2500lb dirt + scraper weight at 25% transfer weight is 29,400 lbs. 4 tons more than warranty allows for new tractors.
dirtprofessionals 3 years ago
Actually the way these are hooked up the weight on the back axle of the tractor is less then the 18 yrd pans, these scrapers have an underslung hitch that hooks on in front of the rear axle
warkly 3 years ago
I hope CASE IH factory guys don't see this. I've LOST alot of money on what should have been covered by warranty. Rear Axles, seals and transmissions. All failures because of to much weight on the rear of the tractor. BUYERS BEWARE!!!!!!!
dirtprofessionals 3 years ago
never seen anything like it
farmer730g 3 years ago
Awsome video
GunzPwnz 4 years ago