could you please put up a video of like you using renekton vs a real challenge? like a sion? I want to use renekton but he just feels too weak in lane
Hey, just a question, not hate, but i watched the jungle tier video and this one and you talk about M5 in a somewhat negative way? Do you dislike them, or are you just proving a point?
@Frulesadv personal preference really,.....in my opinion CDR is better ...so my normal build is...CDR boots, spirit visage, youmuu's ghostblade, warmogs , atmas, and wits end.
This is exactly what I do as mid as well, however, people: WARD FIRST! Just because stonewall is awesome and can't get ganked doesn't mean you can't either. Ward first, then push, then roam.
I recently discovered (and love) Renekton during his free weak, but I'm reluctant to drop the RP or IP on him because I hear he's weak late game. What would you say his strengths and weaknesses are as a champion?
@lsmaug He's not very WEAK late game, he just needs to be fed. Basically he's a giant giant meatshield that can dish out damage and fool opponents into thinking you're going to die. He's an AD Caster, his main thing is that once you know his cooldowns and how to efficiently use his rage bar, he can survive even the trickiest situations.
His weakness is that he has no range spells. Like Lee sin has his Q, Jax has his leap, his only mobility is his E, which doesn't really go too far. TANKY DPS.
@Pikoknight how does his W not scale?? It's basically 2 auto attacks or 3 with fury + more range and stun. The heal on Q is pathetic, have you actually tried maxing W? And who determined that his skill order is Q-E-W? To me you really just sound like sheep.
Your solo top play was really good, sure part of it was their negligence and your jungler not doing much, but you pushed invaded and ganked really well at all stages. I love renek too btw.
@Stonewall008, building a doran's blade and a wriggles is a good idea on renekton, as he can be squishier early on against gankplank who is QUITE strong atm and can counter renekton. : /
Renekton that maxes w + fury is alot scarier than a renekton that maxes q. I think if you went against a regular top, like gp or irelia you woulda lost by maxing Q. I usually get q at level 4, with 2 points in W, with fury it takes away 1/3 of someones hp. Try it, this is just from my experience with renekton though. I was puzzled when you got wriggles, but I'll have to try it. Also ignite is usually better, especially in cases like that rammus fb.
@punchinpupun Renekton is a burst caster, similar to the mid lane champs. Ignite is perfectly acceptable on him. Exhaust has more overall utility, but he generally doesn't need it since he's tanky and mobile enough already. It comes down to user preference.
@PikoKnight I can tell you are not a proper Renekton player. No one should ever max E over W. The damage scaling of W is almost the same as E. His E may have bonus armor reduction with fury but it only occurs on the 2nd dash while his W when empowered gives double stun time and and damage much more significant becuse theres an extra strike on it and cooldown goes down in levels. As for whether to max Q 1st or W 1st is up to the players preference or game situation.
@venom2802 Blindly insulting someone who mains Renekton aside, his W has very poor scaling, and belongs as a one-point wonder. As I said, the burst of damage comes from spending fury and building attack damage.
Q should always be maxed first regardless of the player or situation, as it provides plenty of damage on its own, in an AoE no less, as well as a strong heal. It's THE laning skill in Renekton's kit.
@PikoKnight Well what happens you miss the E or dont hit any minions? You dont get the Dice and no armor debuff. W has double stun time as well. I wont argue bout the Q as I said its player perspective or situational. And mind you Im just pointing out something. Last thing I want is to offend other people. You have your playstyle but I think I was referring to the general playstyle of Renekton.
@venom2802 I'm not particularly bothered about the insult, but it's hard to determine intent on the internet. Best to be cautious imo.
If you miss the Slice and can't Dice, you just don't engage. This shouldn't happen very often, however, since Renekton tends to be neck-deep in the minion wave due to his pushing power. If you can't land Dice even after Slicing through minions, you're zoning your lane opponent off of the creeps, which is plenty good enough by itself.
@PikoKnight Which should be of concern. Unless you can finish the game in 25 minutes it should be noted Renekton will have to rely on fury more late game due to people getting tanky or smart.
The damage scaling on E is actually twice the damage on W. You get 30 damage for both Slice AND Dice, totaling 60, and dice gets 45 when furious, totaling 75. With W, you get 10 damage per hit per level, totaling 20 base, and totaling 30 when furious. It could be argued that leveling W lowers the cooldown so you can use it more often, but you get the same benefit out of E, along with higher damage and higher armor reduction when furious.
@desorienter Maxing W first is stupid. You get next to nothing out of scaling it. What makes W so damaging is spending fury on it. Proper Renekton skill order is Q>E>W for a reason. E would actually come before Q if Q didn't, y'know, heal you. Massively. Even if W was worth scaling, Q should always be maxed first for the healing and pushing power. It's just that good of a laning skill.
Welcome to howto solo top like a boss; Narrated by the one and only stonewall.
Epic video, your team battle video's are extremely helpful to anyone learning the game, or simply looking for helpful advice for an experienced player. Keep up the good work !
Hey. What is ur rotation of maxing skills?
trolololololololol19 3 days ago
The way you talk sometimes reminds me of Christopher Walken.
ZGoten 1 week ago
dammit dont show this to riot they be nerfin rene, and that would be a shame :(
reblo111 3 weeks ago
no penta for you corki, ok
diogo27feld 3 weeks ago in playlist League of Legends - Team Battles
Would you hate me if I told you Renekton is my favorite solo queue pubstomp jungler?
SirHugePen15 3 weeks ago in playlist League of Legends - Team Battles
Can you do a team battle Ezreal? :D
Domotheif131 3 weeks ago
i really love ur lol videos ..+1 subscriber :D
MrN4po 3 weeks ago
Renekton top is my FAVORITE solo top. He's just way too much fun.
Djmandodo 3 weeks ago in playlist League of Legends - Team Battles
and it's a victory yee.
pipif0gel2 3 weeks ago in playlist League of Legends - Team Battles
could you please put up a video of like you using renekton vs a real challenge? like a sion? I want to use renekton but he just feels too weak in lane
Ileumn 3 weeks ago
When you gank renekton, renekton ganks you!
ArminJohansson 3 weeks ago
team battle jungle nasus? i know that there is a laning one
Makeyzey 3 weeks ago
ok, expected more, bad rammus who doesnt buy armor, bad blitz jungling, ad sona...
SolidFake 3 weeks ago
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Blazer991 3 weeks ago
OMG ITS A RENEKTON TEAMBATTLE! :D
SolidFake 3 weeks ago
Team battle shyvana? pretty please ??? :)
ThoraGaming 3 weeks ago
Can you make a Team Battle Cho Gath?
landsitz 3 weeks ago
@landsitz there is one
stonewall008 3 weeks ago
@stonewall008
Sry didnt mention a S2 Team Battle with the new masterys...
i kinda feel his playing style changed a bit because of this ....
Thx for quick answer! ;)
landsitz 3 weeks ago
@stonewall008 there is someone of Kogmaw? i cant find him
MatasanosYCo 3 weeks ago in playlist League of Legends - Team Battles
Hey, just a question, not hate, but i watched the jungle tier video and this one and you talk about M5 in a somewhat negative way? Do you dislike them, or are you just proving a point?
zSciscope 3 weeks ago
@zSciscope /facepalm - I didn't talk about THEM in a negative way...
stonewall008 3 weeks ago
I own with this build(just now).thank you!
maX0229567 3 weeks ago
i do that same on nasus any gank on me when im doing good = a double kill haha
Nokturnalx1 3 weeks ago
thanks for the video man. Awesome guy u are Stonewall!
zarnall 3 weeks ago
10:47, I had suuuuuuuch a huge stiffy.
TeeKayEx 4 weeks ago
Hi I'm stonewall and i play renekton on lane as a jungler :D
TheLoLFans 4 weeks ago
eh wriggles on renekton? better off with a blood thirster
luigidragon 4 weeks ago
@luigidragon Did you not listen? He said he takes it for counter jungling, it also gives a good amount of armor/damage/free ward.
Jussybears 3 weeks ago
@Jussybears lol did you know warwick can jungle naked. omg he doesnt have lantern doesnt mean he cant jungle fuk ur stupid
luigidragon 1 week ago
omg laning stonewall 0.0
Sheepcoats 4 weeks ago
i love your endings.
Shernoc 4 weeks ago
which skill do you level of lane renekton after q ?
Saatan1234 4 weeks ago
@Saatan1234 W
007kingrudy 4 weeks ago
@Saatan1234 E usualy.
Jussybears 3 weeks ago
how did u get that rammus skin?
theminecraftphreak 4 weeks ago
@theminecraftphreak Only players that participated in the beta get it
XYoshe 4 weeks ago
@theminecraftphreak It's not him playing Rammus, and you can't get it anymore.
iBeProbed 4 weeks ago
Sometimes you sound a bit arrogant. :C Otherwise loved it.
BlazedHearts 4 weeks ago
and... its a victory... yay -_-b
MizakisanWoW 4 weeks ago
i subscribed to a lot of people i really love watching
but i find myself just looking for team battles of yours at my subscriptions box
good job :]
Ave6192 4 weeks ago
damn stonewall how does he work?! :D
exd890 4 weeks ago
Just a question, NOT AN ADVICE !
since renekton is an AD-caster , he needs some CDR like brutalizer no ?
Frulesadv 4 weeks ago 10
@Frulesadv you don't need to use your abilities more if they're dead - huehuehue
stonewall008 4 weeks ago 46
@stonewall008 I shall take this quote into deep consideration on all of my builds.
IfYouWouldLikeTo 3 weeks ago in playlist League of Legends - Team Battles
@Frulesadv personal preference really,.....in my opinion CDR is better ...so my normal build is...CDR boots, spirit visage, youmuu's ghostblade, warmogs , atmas, and wits end.
KayChasm 4 weeks ago
I love how they always end so abruptly.
kindaeventful 4 weeks ago
This is a lane one, cuz i can lane to
1359peter 4 weeks ago
now THATS a noif
SuperBigChops 4 weeks ago
Sir, you have my respect as a good lol player. Please keep us update with your videos
Youteful 4 weeks ago
"As you can see, I'm not jungling."
- 10 mins later -
So I take my red buff and wraiths.
K stonewall.
yohan71090 4 weeks ago 10
where did u get that pic it looks tight!
k4RnaGe23 4 weeks ago
no jungle?
who are you and what you did to stonewall??!??!?!?!?
Demian1233 4 weeks ago
dude what accent is that? :o
istyleonu 4 weeks ago
lanning stonewall
cryer3160 4 weeks ago
lanewall008
Roxasknight214 4 weeks ago
thenwewinyay
swushi999 4 weeks ago
Sick, we get to pick our adds...
iwillfindestroyu 4 weeks ago
lol bawss
RazerNO2 4 weeks ago
Funny vid but yeah, you didn't give two shits while doing it lol.
JesterMereel 4 weeks ago
Isn't that sona? o_o
Domotheif131 4 weeks ago
Rammus be a man and give that man his Penta, NOW!
LordArie92 4 weeks ago
So many bad jungle picks. This game had a jungling blitz and a game i played had a jungling twisted fate.
CrownedClown89 4 weeks ago
No one can keep you from jungling XD, it was very informative, I picked up quite a few tips for solo top, thanks
leetheloopylobster 4 weeks ago
lost 1st blood huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
lucastran21 4 weeks ago
Stonewall in the lane?!
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?
sil3ntassailant 4 weeks ago
I demand team battle heimerdinger! Please :D
SkatinBoy244 4 weeks ago 26
@SkatinBoy244 Heimer dosent seem like a char stonewall would play, so prob wont post one
hymerid 3 weeks ago
@SkatinBoy244 Jungle Heimerdinger!! :D
KurtSurreal 3 weeks ago
Stonewall as a laner ganks and counter jungles better than his ally Jungler
BadGuy45 4 weeks ago
Even when he doesn't jungle, you aren't safe jungling against him.
fanges147 4 weeks ago 39
Stonewall i find your team battles very entertaining :) BRING US MORE
daisukexpanda 4 weeks ago
Dude that sona is my friend lol
narutofan5005 4 weeks ago
This is exactly what I do as mid as well, however, people: WARD FIRST! Just because stonewall is awesome and can't get ganked doesn't mean you can't either. Ward first, then push, then roam.
DIChronicAddict1 4 weeks ago
now jangle kassaman?
abandonator 4 weeks ago
lol u say soraka instead of sona
thegreywizard96 4 weeks ago
wow what kinda movent and attack speed is that
SweeTawah 4 weeks ago
stonewall: killer of children
roflguy 4 weeks ago
I HATE ATMOGS ON CROC RAWR! Just felt like throwing it out there.
Zerasad 4 weeks ago
Stonewall: This is a laning one
Me: So... who's playing it? o.o
xinwei10 4 weeks ago
I recently discovered (and love) Renekton during his free weak, but I'm reluctant to drop the RP or IP on him because I hear he's weak late game. What would you say his strengths and weaknesses are as a champion?
lsmaug 4 weeks ago
@lsmaug He's not very WEAK late game, he just needs to be fed. Basically he's a giant giant meatshield that can dish out damage and fool opponents into thinking you're going to die. He's an AD Caster, his main thing is that once you know his cooldowns and how to efficiently use his rage bar, he can survive even the trickiest situations.
His weakness is that he has no range spells. Like Lee sin has his Q, Jax has his leap, his only mobility is his E, which doesn't really go too far. TANKY DPS.
atlanteantapir 4 weeks ago
@atlanteantapir
I was playing him as a tanky dps, so I guess that's good news...guess I'll farm up the last 600 or so IP :D
lsmaug 4 weeks ago
Ganked? Double Kill
gilbro7 4 weeks ago
I would like to see more of these with you laning.
CreepSpark 4 weeks ago
The lane is a lie!
ChaosKnighta 4 weeks ago
@Pikoknight since when was pushing good? You mean when you wanna get ganked right?
desorienter 4 weeks ago
@Pikoknight how does his W not scale?? It's basically 2 auto attacks or 3 with fury + more range and stun. The heal on Q is pathetic, have you actually tried maxing W? And who determined that his skill order is Q-E-W? To me you really just sound like sheep.
desorienter 4 weeks ago
nice jungle investigation as a top laner. I think i can learn from this^^
ElxBogus 4 weeks ago
really love the commentary
ibanezgrx222 4 weeks ago
Your solo top play was really good, sure part of it was their negligence and your jungler not doing much, but you pushed invaded and ganked really well at all stages. I love renek too btw.
TempestDacine 4 weeks ago
he does not forgive !
lkoraki 4 weeks ago
Attack Rammus in tower range... smartest move ever ;) but wow ... finally someone who can play the Agressive Toplane \o/
Y0G0FU 4 weeks ago
he suck laning though
EvilCookie8 4 weeks ago
@EvilCookie8 Actually he doesn't. He stomps most solo tops.
lolh4x 4 weeks ago
@lolh4x Fuck so hard to stomp solo tops on 1400 rating!! so hard, so hard
EvilCookie8 4 weeks ago
@EvilCookie8 Yeah it's not like he's picked in tournaments or anything. Oh wait, he is. Herp derp.
lolh4x 4 weeks ago
@lolh4x Dude im talking about Stonewall008 and not Renekton retard. Renekton is fucking good. Holy fuck your dumb
EvilCookie8 4 weeks ago
Thats sona not soroka.
obeymydog15 4 weeks ago
@obeymydog15 There's a soraka on his team
mM4CHIAVELLI 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from stonewall008
Suddenly victory, yay ,
Donimbatron 4 weeks ago
yay
Kiddalee 4 weeks ago
That's one small dislike bar.
BlazingProphecy 4 weeks ago
AD Sona not autoattacking :D
nalcarya 4 weeks ago
You need to post another ventrilo video.
daisvan 4 weeks ago
@daisvan How bout no.
dirrwen 4 weeks ago
@dirrwen Why wouldn't you want another one of them ventrilo videos? Hilarious stupidity at it's best.
daisvan 4 weeks ago
@Stonewall008, building a doran's blade and a wriggles is a good idea on renekton, as he can be squishier early on against gankplank who is QUITE strong atm and can counter renekton. : /
Tehadamlulz 4 weeks ago
Stonewall can lane Reneketon yeah. That doesnt mean he couldnt jungle Renekton if he wanted.
tomasiarity 4 weeks ago in playlist Más vídeos de stonewall008
RENEKTONNNNNNN
Tehadamlulz 4 weeks ago
WTF? Is he really laning?
1maN008 4 weeks ago
ad sona? ad rammus? i guess meta game is over rated LOL
TheRedHotSpot 4 weeks ago
Renekton is cool but there are to many champions who counter him top imo.
JrFireweb 4 weeks ago
Even in lane stonewall counter jungles :)
JrFireweb 4 weeks ago
TOUGH ACTIN RENEKTON
Snarks4Breakfast 4 weeks ago
more games voiced :D
miniclipgames1 4 weeks ago
8:49
Did Stonewall just try to imitate Renekton's ult?
RuckaInc 4 weeks ago
@0ld1eye oh, my bad...
TheWojtz 4 weeks ago
@Stonewall008 can u tell us your runes and masteries you use on Renekton? :>
TheWojtz 4 weeks ago
@TheWojtz he did at the start.
0ld1eye 4 weeks ago
6:48 look at the chat LOL
hahalaugh13 4 weeks ago
stonewall and lane wtf
archon458 4 weeks ago
Renekton that maxes w + fury is alot scarier than a renekton that maxes q. I think if you went against a regular top, like gp or irelia you woulda lost by maxing Q. I usually get q at level 4, with 2 points in W, with fury it takes away 1/3 of someones hp. Try it, this is just from my experience with renekton though. I was puzzled when you got wriggles, but I'll have to try it. Also ignite is usually better, especially in cases like that rammus fb.
desorienter 4 weeks ago
@desorienter
If u max Q u do more damage than with W and u even get healed
Renekton has no problems in chasing people thanks to his E, W and Frozen Mallet so ignite is a fail since u can 2v1 easily if u have exhaust
punchinpupun 4 weeks ago
@punchinpupun Renekton is a burst caster, similar to the mid lane champs. Ignite is perfectly acceptable on him. Exhaust has more overall utility, but he generally doesn't need it since he's tanky and mobile enough already. It comes down to user preference.
PikoKnight 4 weeks ago
@PikoKnight I can tell you are not a proper Renekton player. No one should ever max E over W. The damage scaling of W is almost the same as E. His E may have bonus armor reduction with fury but it only occurs on the 2nd dash while his W when empowered gives double stun time and and damage much more significant becuse theres an extra strike on it and cooldown goes down in levels. As for whether to max Q 1st or W 1st is up to the players preference or game situation.
venom2802 4 weeks ago
@venom2802 Blindly insulting someone who mains Renekton aside, his W has very poor scaling, and belongs as a one-point wonder. As I said, the burst of damage comes from spending fury and building attack damage.
Q should always be maxed first regardless of the player or situation, as it provides plenty of damage on its own, in an AoE no less, as well as a strong heal. It's THE laning skill in Renekton's kit.
E is only maxed second because W scales so badly.
PikoKnight 3 weeks ago
@PikoKnight Well what happens you miss the E or dont hit any minions? You dont get the Dice and no armor debuff. W has double stun time as well. I wont argue bout the Q as I said its player perspective or situational. And mind you Im just pointing out something. Last thing I want is to offend other people. You have your playstyle but I think I was referring to the general playstyle of Renekton.
venom2802 3 weeks ago
@venom2802 I'm not particularly bothered about the insult, but it's hard to determine intent on the internet. Best to be cautious imo.
If you miss the Slice and can't Dice, you just don't engage. This shouldn't happen very often, however, since Renekton tends to be neck-deep in the minion wave due to his pushing power. If you can't land Dice even after Slicing through minions, you're zoning your lane opponent off of the creeps, which is plenty good enough by itself.
PikoKnight 3 weeks ago
@venom2802 Fuck this 500 character limit.
At any rate, it seems you're more concerned about the fury use over skill leveling, which is indeed entirely situational.
PikoKnight 3 weeks ago
@PikoKnight Which should be of concern. Unless you can finish the game in 25 minutes it should be noted Renekton will have to rely on fury more late game due to people getting tanky or smart.
venom2802 3 weeks ago
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PikoKnight 3 weeks ago
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@venom2802 Whoops, missed something.
The damage scaling on E is actually twice the damage on W. You get 30 damage for both Slice AND Dice, totaling 60, and dice gets 45 when furious, totaling 75. With W, you get 10 damage per hit per level, totaling 20 base, and totaling 30 when furious. It could be argued that leveling W lowers the cooldown so you can use it more often, but you get the same benefit out of E, along with higher damage and higher armor reduction when furious.
PikoKnight 3 weeks ago
@desorienter Maxing W first is stupid. You get next to nothing out of scaling it. What makes W so damaging is spending fury on it. Proper Renekton skill order is Q>E>W for a reason. E would actually come before Q if Q didn't, y'know, heal you. Massively. Even if W was worth scaling, Q should always be maxed first for the healing and pushing power. It's just that good of a laning skill.
PikoKnight 4 weeks ago
actually, AD Sona works. It IS a trollbuild, but not like AD Vlad, more like AP Yi.
11Affen 4 weeks ago
@11Affen ap yi is not trollbuild
TheRealOmertal 4 weeks ago
I had hoped for a Jungle-croc video :(
EbranLoL 4 weeks ago
SORCERY
TheRedHotSpot 4 weeks ago
Stonewall you should do more laning commentaries, I enjoyed this one.
wingedkurib0h 4 weeks ago
"theres a fight against vladimir and ogavilah"
nigsbeallikedamn 4 weeks ago
Haha, that Udyr was so troll
TheTriforcekeeper 4 weeks ago
wath runes ?
patwwepatrick 4 weeks ago
Hey stonewall, could you get rid of those black lines on the side, please?
K1N6x360 4 weeks ago
Welcome to howto solo top like a boss; Narrated by the one and only stonewall.
Epic video, your team battle video's are extremely helpful to anyone learning the game, or simply looking for helpful advice for an experienced player. Keep up the good work !
Kharnwhataguy 4 weeks ago 10
Rammus top, blitz jungle and gp bot, what type of game are u playing oO?
murilosurf11 4 weeks ago
Thats one long gank!
Gugrick 4 weeks ago
I think your laning phase was pretty ok... Yes, that was a pun.
Kamekification 4 weeks ago
Even when laning stonewall is still in the jungle mood - still stealing their jungle :).
noionxion 4 weeks ago
Stonewall doesnt lane he farms the lane then jungles, udyr was roaming stonewall was jungling :P
splisha 4 weeks ago 14
"u want blue janna?"
"yes plz"
"WELL THAT'S TOO FUCKING BAD"
":["
Lol.
an0nim0uz 4 weeks ago 142
This has been flagged as spam show
That awkward moment someone spends money on the legendary Vlad skin and sucks..
MrMeowMeow 4 weeks ago
That awkward moment someone spends money on the legendary Vlad skin and sucks..
MrMeowMeow 4 weeks ago
Why don't you guy wrigles on junglers? O.o
sambudwiser 4 weeks ago
720p FULLSCREEN!
TwilightForces 4 weeks ago
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FalzarGregar 4 weeks ago
you can lane? lies
hyrule17 4 weeks ago 169
@hyrule17 He still probably lanes better than you.
Suicider12 4 weeks ago
@hyrule17 I wonder how many people thought of typing this before seeing you post it. I know I did.
metaknight234 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from stonewall008
second ftw
woobhead 4 weeks ago
@woobhead
nobody cares
zetter344 4 weeks ago
Croco !
dididam1 4 weeks ago