...For money as opposed to making a personal decision. I'm a Mariners fan in baseball and I despise A-Rod for that reason but still love Griffey and Randy Johnson despite them wanting to leave. And it has to do with the circumstances. For me, Fedorov only deserved the criticism in '98 when he held out but not when he left for less money in '03.
Ok, let me paint you a scienerio.You´re an employer and you´re paying a guy a lucrative wage(salary)and he also enhances his career by getting multiple personal awards thanks to a work team that is committed under your leadership(Stanley cup).This employer gets an offer from company "b" which is a worse company, offers less salary bonuses and is generally known as a poor organization.He takes their offer and leaves you high and dry looking for a replacement.Would you be upset as an employer?
Ok, well first I'd certainly tell the employee the benefits of staying on board and the reasons why I think it would be bad for him to go. But I would certainly not get pissed and try to force him to stay. I would be angry as hell if I wanted a different opportunity, no matter how odd the circumstances may be, and to have an employer put me down for doing so. Even Holland wasn't pissed when this happened with Feds. He was disappointed but not angry.
Fair enough. I was disappointed, as a fan, when they left and thought it was somewhat of a betrayal because both of these guys made their careers here, only to abandon ship. I guess I really have nothing to argue about anymore. Nice rational discussion Montana. I don´t get this too often on the internet without some immature insults being thrown around.
I have to admit, I've been in quite a few of those myself where I've resorted to the name calling. But I feel we both made strong points and it was a fair discussion.
They're pushing 40, of course they are. All players slow down and decline when you get to 40, it's just the way it is. These guys are people too and we should respect their decisions to want to try something new.
Shanny left because the Wings wanted to go in another direction, it wasn't his fault. And Feds' contract actually paid him less to go to Anaheim. People need to give these guys a break I'm tired of people baggin' on Feds. He just wanted to do his own thing, I can't fault a guy for wanting a change. Yes, his stay in Anaheim was short and he wasn't successful in Columbus, but that's all hindsight.
That´s not true at all.The Red Wings wanted Shanny back and offered him more mmoney than the Rangers but he turned them down.Shanny left on his own accord for less money.Shanny is probably kicking himself now for not joining the Wings. I say fuck both of them. Fedorov was also a fool when he turned down a 4 year 40 million dollar contract during with the Wings to go to the Ducks. Wings are a deeper team now than the years we had these two guys. Their both past their prime too.
Well I'm not going to just cast them aside and go with the what have you done for me lately attitude. They were a big reason why they won three cups and how soon a lot of my fellow Wings fans forget their contributions. I have to admit that we are a spoiled bunch. Say what you want about them leaving. But to say they suck is bullshit because they had great careers here in Detroit and to so they are past their prime is a bit of stating the obvious.
I´m casting them aside simply because they abandoned the Red Wings when we needed/wanted them the most. In my opinion most sane, rational people would say they made a poor choice not rejoining the best organization in sports right now. The Red wings showed loyalty to them for years, but they spit in our face after generous contract offers to stay with the club. That´s the beef most people have with these guys. But they have freedom of choice but the main questions is this: Why leave?
Like I said, I respect people's opinion's of betrayal. After all, Fedorov is my favorite player of all time and you can bet I was surely disappointed that he left and felt he wasn't picking the best team to leave to. I knew it wouldn't bode for him well but I respected he wanted to try something different and felt he had accomplished all he could in Detroit and I respected that. I feel that it is important not to forget them and what they did for the team, that's what I'm mainly saying.
Sure I respect their decision to leave but again, they couldn´t have cared about the Detroit organization THAT MUCH if they were leaving to other teams for LESS money. That´s why they loose lots of respect for Detroit fans. Did they contribute and play well in a Wigs uniform? Absolutelty, but why leave when the team wants/needs you? It´s like leaving for a new job that pays you less money. Winning these cups rubs the salt in the wounds of these guys though, which is justice in my mind.
Everybody (your mom, dad, brothers, sisters, etc) remembers you as a moron and a loser. I bet you call yourself like that because you know it (that you're a loser and a moron). Shanahan is not overrated.
thats y i hate math rite now... my final is LITERALLy tomorrow ha suks, no studying for me haha it wouldnt help. but shanahan may not be over rated , i just like to say stuff about NYR and DET playas.. cept datsyuk, an zetterberg they are fukn amzin
by the way that wasn't the exact translation on the bottom. Fedorov said "Hey Shanahan, go fly in the clouds." A common saying in Russian that is a gentle way of saying "fuck off" ;)
no. They dont bother selling blue jackets jerseys since noone goes to the games that they will lose anyway. They just use the material to make red wings jerseys.
ah i see, haha im retarded and moronic... go figure! but yeah blue jackets dont have much going for them...cept Nash, but he cant do it by himself, but he will try wont he.
Flyers own
im sure ppl are gonna post now about flyers and how they play, well bring it
I really wish the NHL would get their head out of their ass and make themselves ACCESSIBLE to the fans like this again. Make the game what it is, FUN !!! This was back when Fedorweenie gave a shit... wonder where that version of him went ??
haha, in any case.. it's still funny. too bad fedorov made some bad choices. now he's pretty much disappeared. still my favorite player of all time. too bad
ahhh....fedorov...YUM =P
JODALYNN1 2 years ago
I love Shanny and Sergei hahaha
I miss the NHL on ESPN
Frozintoe 2 years ago
best hockey commercial ever
Textmakler 2 years ago
I can watch this time and time again and it still makes me laugh
Craze21AD 3 years ago
...For money as opposed to making a personal decision. I'm a Mariners fan in baseball and I despise A-Rod for that reason but still love Griffey and Randy Johnson despite them wanting to leave. And it has to do with the circumstances. For me, Fedorov only deserved the criticism in '98 when he held out but not when he left for less money in '03.
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago
Ok, let me paint you a scienerio.You´re an employer and you´re paying a guy a lucrative wage(salary)and he also enhances his career by getting multiple personal awards thanks to a work team that is committed under your leadership(Stanley cup).This employer gets an offer from company "b" which is a worse company, offers less salary bonuses and is generally known as a poor organization.He takes their offer and leaves you high and dry looking for a replacement.Would you be upset as an employer?
chrisconnell 3 years ago
Ok, well first I'd certainly tell the employee the benefits of staying on board and the reasons why I think it would be bad for him to go. But I would certainly not get pissed and try to force him to stay. I would be angry as hell if I wanted a different opportunity, no matter how odd the circumstances may be, and to have an employer put me down for doing so. Even Holland wasn't pissed when this happened with Feds. He was disappointed but not angry.
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago
Fair enough. I was disappointed, as a fan, when they left and thought it was somewhat of a betrayal because both of these guys made their careers here, only to abandon ship. I guess I really have nothing to argue about anymore. Nice rational discussion Montana. I don´t get this too often on the internet without some immature insults being thrown around.
chrisconnell 3 years ago
I have to admit, I've been in quite a few of those myself where I've resorted to the name calling. But I feel we both made strong points and it was a fair discussion.
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago
They're pushing 40, of course they are. All players slow down and decline when you get to 40, it's just the way it is. These guys are people too and we should respect their decisions to want to try something new.
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago
lmfao i hate shanahan
brodeurrules3029 3 years ago
it's 2 bad there not here anymore but they were both awesome
Foltz91 3 years ago
i miss hockey on espn
Glonito 3 years ago
Shanny left because the Wings wanted to go in another direction, it wasn't his fault. And Feds' contract actually paid him less to go to Anaheim. People need to give these guys a break I'm tired of people baggin' on Feds. He just wanted to do his own thing, I can't fault a guy for wanting a change. Yes, his stay in Anaheim was short and he wasn't successful in Columbus, but that's all hindsight.
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago 2
That´s not true at all.The Red Wings wanted Shanny back and offered him more mmoney than the Rangers but he turned them down.Shanny left on his own accord for less money.Shanny is probably kicking himself now for not joining the Wings. I say fuck both of them. Fedorov was also a fool when he turned down a 4 year 40 million dollar contract during with the Wings to go to the Ducks. Wings are a deeper team now than the years we had these two guys. Their both past their prime too.
chrisconnell 3 years ago
Well I'm not going to just cast them aside and go with the what have you done for me lately attitude. They were a big reason why they won three cups and how soon a lot of my fellow Wings fans forget their contributions. I have to admit that we are a spoiled bunch. Say what you want about them leaving. But to say they suck is bullshit because they had great careers here in Detroit and to so they are past their prime is a bit of stating the obvious.
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago
correction : "and to SAY they are past their prime is a bit of stating the obvious."
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago
I´m casting them aside simply because they abandoned the Red Wings when we needed/wanted them the most. In my opinion most sane, rational people would say they made a poor choice not rejoining the best organization in sports right now. The Red wings showed loyalty to them for years, but they spit in our face after generous contract offers to stay with the club. That´s the beef most people have with these guys. But they have freedom of choice but the main questions is this: Why leave?
chrisconnell 3 years ago
Like I said, I respect people's opinion's of betrayal. After all, Fedorov is my favorite player of all time and you can bet I was surely disappointed that he left and felt he wasn't picking the best team to leave to. I knew it wouldn't bode for him well but I respected he wanted to try something different and felt he had accomplished all he could in Detroit and I respected that. I feel that it is important not to forget them and what they did for the team, that's what I'm mainly saying.
MontanaHockey91 3 years ago
Sure I respect their decision to leave but again, they couldn´t have cared about the Detroit organization THAT MUCH if they were leaving to other teams for LESS money. That´s why they loose lots of respect for Detroit fans. Did they contribute and play well in a Wigs uniform? Absolutelty, but why leave when the team wants/needs you? It´s like leaving for a new job that pays you less money. Winning these cups rubs the salt in the wounds of these guys though, which is justice in my mind.
chrisconnell 3 years ago
It doesn't matter that much what he really said, the point is clear. And it's funny!
Erestoriel 3 years ago
no, it means hey shanahan, go skate in the clouds, WTF
wowmat 4 years ago
so did federov he left to.. punk asses and they traded mccarty big mistake
arnfilip 4 years ago
mccarty is still on the team..fucker!
scottman690 3 years ago
thats funny either way
goodness10 4 years ago
Fuck Shanahan he left the wings for more money... why cant he be like lidstrom who gives up part of his salary to help the wings with the cap
55JGreene 4 years ago
lol. Even if he is a Ranger now...I love Shanahan.
State0fChaos 4 years ago
Red Wings is the best
123321thebest 4 years ago
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MaizeAndBlue1987 4 years ago
hahaha THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!! HE DIDNT SAY "GO TO HELL SHANAHAN. YO FREAK" BUT SAID "HEY SHENNY GO SKATE ON THE SKY"... THIS IS A SET UP!!
MatthewWebber1985 4 years ago
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shanahan is a bitch i hate him over rated
losermoron87 4 years ago
well your username sure fits you well..
BassSurfer2 4 years ago
hell yeah it does bitch, just jealous u didnt get a sweet ass name everyone remembers
losermoron87 4 years ago
Everybody (your mom, dad, brothers, sisters, etc) remembers you as a moron and a loser. I bet you call yourself like that because you know it (that you're a loser and a moron). Shanahan is not overrated.
DiddyIsGod 4 years ago
y u gotta be hatin, its christmas time ..... (sad face) yeah i call my self losermoron cuz i suk at math ur soooo rite , u got me
losermoron87 4 years ago
Because you said Shanahan is overrated which is not true. Oh and I used to suck at math too (mostly during my time in high school).
DiddyIsGod 4 years ago
thats y i hate math rite now... my final is LITERALLy tomorrow ha suks, no studying for me haha it wouldnt help. but shanahan may not be over rated , i just like to say stuff about NYR and DET playas.. cept datsyuk, an zetterberg they are fukn amzin
losermoron87 4 years ago
lmfao go to hell shannahan you freak hahahhaha
iLoveVinnyLecavalier 4 years ago
by the way that wasn't the exact translation on the bottom. Fedorov said "Hey Shanahan, go fly in the clouds." A common saying in Russian that is a gentle way of saying "fuck off" ;)
Spetz 4 years ago
Fedorov played Defense for the Wings for awhile in 97 and a few other occassions afterward, not just on powerplays.
dftns19 4 years ago
fuck the Wings. Go Jackets. anybody have or know someone that has a Blue Jackets Sergei Fedorov Jersey?
brethartfan999 4 years ago
im from michigan but im a fan of fed. doesnt it feel weird 2 see fed play D instead of forward. i mean ya he has a hard shot but he isnt that big
ptaylor2426 4 years ago
He played D for Bowman in Detroit too, not like it's a first time occurance.
braskey123 4 years ago
ya but taht was only on powerplays. not just all around play. its not a 1st time occurance but its not like he switches back 2 forward at all
ptaylor2426 4 years ago
no. They dont bother selling blue jackets jerseys since noone goes to the games that they will lose anyway. They just use the material to make red wings jerseys.
poolshark23million 4 years ago
They make Blue Jackets jerseys? Hmmm... ya learn something everyday.
Go Wings!
Brandog5 4 years ago
My mom has one.
IMANOILER 4 years ago
LOL, Blue Jackets suck.
DiddyIsGod 4 years ago
?????????
i dont get y ur talkin bout them blue jackets
losermoron87 4 years ago
Read what brethartfan999 post.
DiddyIsGod 4 years ago
ah i see, haha im retarded and moronic... go figure! but yeah blue jackets dont have much going for them...cept Nash, but he cant do it by himself, but he will try wont he.
Flyers own
im sure ppl are gonna post now about flyers and how they play, well bring it
losermoron87 4 years ago
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one word: Penguins
Sexxor69 3 years ago
Yeah right.
OnRockIT 3 years ago 2
No one remembers who came in second.
MACpro58 3 years ago
whats the code to get the video
hockeykng14 5 years ago
LOL! thats awesome
thrashers32 5 years ago
I really wish the NHL would get their head out of their ass and make themselves ACCESSIBLE to the fans like this again. Make the game what it is, FUN !!! This was back when Fedorweenie gave a shit... wonder where that version of him went ??
ProfessorIgor 5 years ago
haha. i bet shanny will do some acting after hockey like can neely (kick his ass, sea bass)
wiggitywok 5 years ago
Except he plays for the Rangers now.
DeltaKungfu 5 years ago
lol thats funny
sportsrules4life 5 years ago
We're one big happy family.
Go to hell Shanahan!!
sorryimlate2 5 years ago
Yeah, maybe its because Federov didnt want to swear ot something
sorryimlate2 5 years ago
klhgfhgfgg you suck Detroit kicks ass and sergei is the best player of all time !
DEEdeeDEE777111 5 years ago 2
hahhaha good ol shanny
Hayling72 5 years ago
DETROIT SUCKS! DETROIT SUCKS!
klhgfhgfgg 5 years ago
Shut Up Bitch GO WINGS
nscalabrino 5 years ago
Are you from Denver?
TheBeautyoftheworld 4 years ago
That's funny as hell regardless.
tipsymcstagger69 5 years ago
hahaha, thats funny
forsbergfan21 5 years ago
haha, in any case.. it's still funny. too bad fedorov made some bad choices. now he's pretty much disappeared. still my favorite player of all time. too bad
deadboy519 5 years ago
^ Yup. That's hilarious! "Hi Shanny, go take a ride in the clouds!" is what he said.
killa328 5 years ago
Haha, actually he told him to go take a ride in the clouds lol...since I can speak Russian and all.
Spetz 5 years ago