Great video. Art Farmer is playing a Flumpet which is a hybrid made by Monette. The Flumpet is part trumpet and part flugelhorn. Art played flugelhorn for many years.
Art Farmer -- man, even his flubs sound amazing! They both sound great. To my ears, Farmer was stretching out more than Hargrove but 2 really fine solos....
I've just discovered Farmer and I'm blown away. Every single note he plays has that nearly inimitable tone of soulful "cool" that Miles Davis perfected on Kind of Blue. I'm excited to hear much more from this amazing man.
chris botti was always incredible to me, beautiful person who I had the pleasure to get to know. Chris plays what is honest to him. His tone is unbelievable, one of the things I could never get over w/ hargrove. I've heard botti play clifford brown solos spot on, he wants to play what he wants to play, not redo something that was already done. I suggest you go listen to him live, it's def. different than his records, if nothing else you get to hear his amazing sidemen if you're still acritic
THe title is duet, not duel lol You can't compare players like these, they're both great in their own way. Roy's playing is pure soul and I effing love when he commands with those overblown notes. He's got a voice as recognizable as Mile's in my opinion. Just one of those nasty, gritty notes and you know it's him. Seeing him in such a small clinic setting staring down his bell was one of the greatest musical things I've ever witnessed, and Gerald Clayton backing him up only made it sweeter.
Actually, I'm so impressed with Art Farmer's solo here that I'd like to clip it from the greater whole; it's a gem of a showcase for his mastery and talent, his understated yet brilliantly expressive, unfettered, unselfconscious playing. Wish I knew how to do that (clip a segment from video footage). Thanks for posting this, adejuric. :D
Put me in the Art Farmer camp ... with the caveat that this is a young Hargrove ... playing great and 'going for it' even under the pressure of playing alongside Farmer. Farmer's solo just has more poise and a wider range of ideas and techniques ... he also conjures some beautiful mellow tones out of that instrument when he wants to ... credit to a master
You can't say no one wins. As most trumpet players will agree, we are naturally competitive by nature of the instrument. All due respect but i think even roy hargrove would say art handed it to him on this one. No disrespect. Matter of fact just to have the opportunity to get roasted by Art Farmer gets props by itself. Of course you respect both their musicianship but give Art his due.
@pzcato o.k - this is my opinion on the subject . there a million talented trained jazz musicians across the the country and the world who can reproduce any style of jazz . if a guy gets a break at all - he's one lucky mother fucker - chris botti was right in there taking lessons studying the masters going to jams beating himself up with the best of them . he got a break - has sold millions of records and sells out concert venues . i don't listen to his music but many people like it.
@mitjazz I agree. He has maximized his opportunities and manufactured a fantastic career for himself. But he didn't do it by NOT playing elevator music. That's all I'm saying...
@pzcato good luck to you playing what you consider " real jazz" . every jazz musician i know has their own opinion about what real jazz is . and guess what they rarely agree . maybe you should get a doctorate and teach jazz - academia seems to be the only place where real jazz thrives .
@mitjazz I've never seen someone be so defensive about smooth jazz lol. And you're very wrong about the vitality of jazz. I can hear the real deal nearly any night of the week where I live...no drum machines, cheesy back beats, or wind makers. Just the interaction of musicians expressing themselves within a form... jazz is alive and well, sir. Hargrove is to Botti as Hubbard was to Alpert. Let's not kid ourselves.
Let's not get sucked into another 'real jazz' debate. It's been done. People got angry. Babies, prams, bathtubs and sinks were verbally thrown. I'm sure (and indeed hope) if Botti / Hargrove get together and play each others' music they will respect each other as musicians, just as Stephane Grapelli and Yehudi Menuhin did when they hooked up.
@pzcato botti was always incredible to me, beautiful person who I had the pleasure to get to know. Chris plays what is honest to him. His tone is unbelievable, one of the things I could never get over w/ hargrove. I've heard botti play clifford brown solos spot on, he wants to play what he wants to play, not redo something already done. I suggest you go listen to him live, it's def. different than his records, if nothing else you get to hear his amazing sidemen if you're still acritic
Can someone please tell me what the name of this tune is, and it is not "OW!" because I have heard this a thousand times elsewhere, which means it is a standard, but if you do a search for "OW" "jazz" this is nowhere to be found on youtube or google, THANKS !!
@hornplayer79 Yes, the name of this tune is "Ow" but what may have thrown you was when Roy started quoting Thelonious Monk's "Nutty" in the middle of his solo. He did it so well that it could cause a person to think it was a part of the featured tune.
That "flumpet" Art is playiong on is a real "sound-killer". Wonder how much stronger he would have sounded on a regular trumpet. He always makes it look so easy!
the flumpet is part of his sound, its what he wanted his physical sound to sound like- very mellow and deep. He didnt like the harse sound of the trumpet. Infact, in his interviews he mentioned he played the flugelhorn because it gave him the sond he wanted without having to work to get it like on a trumpet. His early records with trumpet still sound very mellow
You guys should check out how Art Farmer sounded when he was 23 (which is about how old Roy is here). Search Wardell Gray + Art Farmer and check out "The Squirrel" and "Farmer's Market". Two amazing recordings from 1952.
hell lucky dog.. my teacher was a student of wynton and then chase sanborn and then pat harbison.. he said both chase and pat were amazing players but sucked at teaching... and he said wynton was the best teacher he even had and hes a great man 2 (sry for my english)
Roy is putting the dressing on this joint lol
rodwingii 6 days ago
killin
rodwingii 1 week ago
Great video. Art Farmer is playing a Flumpet which is a hybrid made by Monette. The Flumpet is part trumpet and part flugelhorn. Art played flugelhorn for many years.
Johnflugelhorn 1 month ago
:))))
MartaBtrp 1 month ago
amazing on cornet but better on trumpet
Nerd4Sales 2 months ago
I love art farmer
Wilsox 5 months ago
who ever disliked doesn't know real music
TheFastdiamond 5 months ago 6
@TheFastdiamond that's in your opinion.
SamehhFx 1 month ago
Ooh thats high @ 3:24 (double c?)
dvdvns 5 months ago
@dvdvns well it's just a regular c. he plays some f's in there too!
MSWproductions55 5 months ago
1:13
13CIRCLE 6 months ago
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13CIRCLE 6 months ago
You just cant beat old school-you can only learn from them and visa versa.
decus69 7 months ago 2
Cool.
skilletmonsterful 7 months ago
Quick see, Art Farmer is playing a "flumpet"
FitnessMinded 8 months ago
Is that ray brown on bass?
sean33313 9 months ago
Art Farmer -- man, even his flubs sound amazing! They both sound great. To my ears, Farmer was stretching out more than Hargrove but 2 really fine solos....
sigmonky 10 months ago
To hear/see some good Art Farmer check out his work with Gerry Mulligan. He joined Gerry's group in 1958. Played with him some in the 60's also.
montytp 11 months ago
What is all this bullshit in the comments?
I've just discovered Farmer and I'm blown away. Every single note he plays has that nearly inimitable tone of soulful "cool" that Miles Davis perfected on Kind of Blue. I'm excited to hear much more from this amazing man.
bohemiandonut 1 year ago
MAybe you outta hear Modern Art, CIty Lights and Meet the Jazztet. Some of Farmer´s finest recordings
leevancleef83 8 months ago
who is the drummer?
FranzKEYGUIMPET80 1 year ago
Who's the pianist?? He shreeddss
littlebones18 1 year ago
@littlebones18 Jacky Terrasson
glennsf 6 months ago
can anybody tell me what key this is in?
TheNinosuth 1 year ago
@TheNinosuth Bb. a popular choice for Rhythm Changes.
Jazzman303 1 year ago
chris botti was always incredible to me, beautiful person who I had the pleasure to get to know. Chris plays what is honest to him. His tone is unbelievable, one of the things I could never get over w/ hargrove. I've heard botti play clifford brown solos spot on, he wants to play what he wants to play, not redo something that was already done. I suggest you go listen to him live, it's def. different than his records, if nothing else you get to hear his amazing sidemen if you're still acritic
Zacktpt 1 year ago
Older guy is playing a cornet.
0rganDon0r 1 year ago
that´s a flumpet from Monnette factory @0rganDon0r
jjortiztorres 1 year ago
@jjortiztorres The length and sound isn't right for a trumpet.
0rganDon0r 1 year ago
I love Art Farmer, but this piano player killed it!
bbad1972 1 year ago
Oh wow! Jacky Terrasson on the piano!
nabilhc 1 year ago
THe title is duet, not duel lol You can't compare players like these, they're both great in their own way. Roy's playing is pure soul and I effing love when he commands with those overblown notes. He's got a voice as recognizable as Mile's in my opinion. Just one of those nasty, gritty notes and you know it's him. Seeing him in such a small clinic setting staring down his bell was one of the greatest musical things I've ever witnessed, and Gerald Clayton backing him up only made it sweeter.
Zombbg4 1 year ago
Actually, I'm so impressed with Art Farmer's solo here that I'd like to clip it from the greater whole; it's a gem of a showcase for his mastery and talent, his understated yet brilliantly expressive, unfettered, unselfconscious playing. Wish I knew how to do that (clip a segment from video footage). Thanks for posting this, adejuric. :D
avivagabriel 1 year ago
what song is this?
plople1 1 year ago
@plople1 nevermind... that was the dumbest question ever.... "ow"
plople1 1 year ago
Put me in the Art Farmer camp ... with the caveat that this is a young Hargrove ... playing great and 'going for it' even under the pressure of playing alongside Farmer. Farmer's solo just has more poise and a wider range of ideas and techniques ... he also conjures some beautiful mellow tones out of that instrument when he wants to ... credit to a master
Arborwaychet 1 year ago
hot damn i sure do love jazz!!!!
Timok67 1 year ago
i love hargrove but i think art farmer killed it off wit taht cornet in that solo
he sounded more rich and i think he had better ideasss
JazzNaySean 1 year ago
@JazzNaySean it's a flumpet - monette.com
davehedgehog 1 year ago
@davehedgehog oh really? whats the difference? is it like a cross between a trumpet and a a flugle?
JazzNaySean 1 year ago
@JazzNaySean yeh basically it's the lovechild of a cornet and a flug. i think he used to play cornet back in the day.. might be wrong though
davehedgehog 11 months ago
Hah, as much as I loved the trumpets, being a trumpeter myself, you gotta give some serious props to Terrasson...God DAMN
CaptainJazz92 1 year ago
anyone know the name of the drummer?
onalyd 1 year ago
@onalyd
I believe that's Alvin Queen.
piercedearmusic 1 year ago
You can't say no one wins. As most trumpet players will agree, we are naturally competitive by nature of the instrument. All due respect but i think even roy hargrove would say art handed it to him on this one. No disrespect. Matter of fact just to have the opportunity to get roasted by Art Farmer gets props by itself. Of course you respect both their musicianship but give Art his due.
apbernard 1 year ago 2
Great stuff !!
quickturtle 1 year ago
both wins..
neody14 1 year ago 2
No one was consistently cooler than Art Farmer . . . not even Miles.
soulgriot 1 year ago
Both solos were just as good, no one won or lost. Both killed.
RyaneJackson 1 year ago 12
@RyaneJackson It was a duet not a duel
imaster34 1 month ago
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Art wins.
rdangelo 2 years ago
Yup, it's definitely a battle...
jabh1354 1 year ago
@Santi2c He quotes the melody of Taking A Chance On Love, Wayne Shorter used to quote that a lot on some Blakey albums (Mosaic, etc).
intrepidpooch 2 years ago
ho yes
VJSco 2 years ago
what's the piece name?
diegoaalzate 2 years ago
maybe, monk's song
romolojazz 2 years ago
it's written in the name of the video : ow!
it's a dizzy gilespie's composition
bricemosk 2 years ago
DAMN that is jazz right here WOOOOOOOOO
8shadowking8 2 years ago
I love the way Art is like "shit, what is this dude playing over rhythm changes" when Terrasson starts playin.
Great vid!
ouruhuru 2 years ago
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Never liked Hargrove. Then again these are 2 completely different musicians from different generations.
jerec576 2 years ago
hargrove is the man!
drlluc 2 years ago 5
swingin 100% :D
funkygrooveman 2 years ago
what's not to like? Undeniable tone, great ideas...dude plays real jazz in a Chris Botti world.
I think he's the shit.
pzcato 2 years ago 23
Im not denying his ability. We all have our own opinions and tastes. Thats all. He knows how to play and has a background that is undenyiable.
jerec576 2 years ago
@pzcato chris botti can play - don't kid your self
mitjazz 1 year ago
@mitjazz never said he couldn't. I implied that he doesn't play real jazz...argue that one. Botti sounds good...but so did Liberace.
pzcato 1 year ago
@pzcato - why would i bother arguing with someone who uses the term "real jazz".
mitjazz 1 year ago
@mitjazz c'mon, man...you're no fun lol
pzcato 1 year ago
@pzcato o.k - this is my opinion on the subject . there a million talented trained jazz musicians across the the country and the world who can reproduce any style of jazz . if a guy gets a break at all - he's one lucky mother fucker - chris botti was right in there taking lessons studying the masters going to jams beating himself up with the best of them . he got a break - has sold millions of records and sells out concert venues . i don't listen to his music but many people like it.
mitjazz 1 year ago
@mitjazz I agree. He has maximized his opportunities and manufactured a fantastic career for himself. But he didn't do it by NOT playing elevator music. That's all I'm saying...
pzcato 1 year ago
@pzcato good luck to you playing what you consider " real jazz" . every jazz musician i know has their own opinion about what real jazz is . and guess what they rarely agree . maybe you should get a doctorate and teach jazz - academia seems to be the only place where real jazz thrives .
mitjazz 1 year ago
@mitjazz I've never seen someone be so defensive about smooth jazz lol. And you're very wrong about the vitality of jazz. I can hear the real deal nearly any night of the week where I live...no drum machines, cheesy back beats, or wind makers. Just the interaction of musicians expressing themselves within a form... jazz is alive and well, sir. Hargrove is to Botti as Hubbard was to Alpert. Let's not kid ourselves.
pzcato 1 year ago
@pzcato i'm obviously dealing with a child - get back to me if you grow up
mitjazz 1 year ago
@mitjazz interesting approach...
pzcato 1 year ago
@mitjazz
Let's not get sucked into another 'real jazz' debate. It's been done. People got angry. Babies, prams, bathtubs and sinks were verbally thrown. I'm sure (and indeed hope) if Botti / Hargrove get together and play each others' music they will respect each other as musicians, just as Stephane Grapelli and Yehudi Menuhin did when they hooked up.
Tobey2k4 1 year ago
@Tobey2k4 Seconded
TaKKun1123 11 months ago
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pzcato 1 year ago
@pzcato botti was always incredible to me, beautiful person who I had the pleasure to get to know. Chris plays what is honest to him. His tone is unbelievable, one of the things I could never get over w/ hargrove. I've heard botti play clifford brown solos spot on, he wants to play what he wants to play, not redo something already done. I suggest you go listen to him live, it's def. different than his records, if nothing else you get to hear his amazing sidemen if you're still acritic
Zacktpt 1 year ago
@Zacktpt I'm not critical of Botti as a player. I just said he doesn't play real jazz.
That. Is. A. Fact.
pzcato 1 year ago
@pzcato i think they just missed the "like" button
nickalsk117 10 months ago 2
@pzcato
Indeed.
dvdvns 5 months ago
Can someone please tell me what the name of this tune is, and it is not "OW!" because I have heard this a thousand times elsewhere, which means it is a standard, but if you do a search for "OW" "jazz" this is nowhere to be found on youtube or google, THANKS !!
hornplayer79 2 months ago in playlist ALL JAZZ
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pzcato 2 months ago
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@hornplayer79 "Ow!" - Dizzy Gillespie and His Orchestra, 1947
pzcato 2 months ago
@hornplayer79 Yes, it most certainly is Dizzy's "Ow!" Search "Dizzy Gillespie, Ow!" & hear it played by the original.
TheGWFrog 2 months ago in playlist More videos from adejuric
@hornplayer79 Yes, the name of this tune is "Ow" but what may have thrown you was when Roy started quoting Thelonious Monk's "Nutty" in the middle of his solo. He did it so well that it could cause a person to think it was a part of the featured tune.
beeshor1 4 weeks ago
i never liked you
failing6515 2 years ago
I was looking this footage for years. I remember they also played Clifford Brown's "Blues Walk"
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago 3
Ow is what I just said cus these guys are killin!
Zombbg4 2 years ago 3
That "flumpet" Art is playiong on is a real "sound-killer". Wonder how much stronger he would have sounded on a regular trumpet. He always makes it look so easy!
Blancolate 2 years ago
the flumpet is part of his sound, its what he wanted his physical sound to sound like- very mellow and deep. He didnt like the harse sound of the trumpet. Infact, in his interviews he mentioned he played the flugelhorn because it gave him the sond he wanted without having to work to get it like on a trumpet. His early records with trumpet still sound very mellow
jerec576 2 years ago 2
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douglasgorney 2 years ago
Wow you can really hear Lee Morgan's influence on Hargrove's sound in this one! Love it!
CincyTrumpetPlaya 2 years ago 2
Gotta love art farmer, but i think Roy wins this one. I liked all Art Farmer's pentatonic lines though. The piano player
(Jacky Terrasson according to jacosunn) is bomb.
tumbleweed94 2 years ago 2
You guys should check out how Art Farmer sounded when he was 23 (which is about how old Roy is here). Search Wardell Gray + Art Farmer and check out "The Squirrel" and "Farmer's Market". Two amazing recordings from 1952.
kdfan 2 years ago
who is that on keys???
copedogg888 2 years ago
I think he is Jacky Terrasson
jacosunn 2 years ago
Jacky Terrason
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago
Roy and Art on one stage what a treat. I love them both. Roy was one of Wyntons students, lucky dog :)
sometrumpetplayer1 2 years ago
hell lucky dog.. my teacher was a student of wynton and then chase sanborn and then pat harbison.. he said both chase and pat were amazing players but sucked at teaching... and he said wynton was the best teacher he even had and hes a great man 2 (sry for my english)
cormier0007 2 years ago
love roy , great track ty...
sweetmo28 2 years ago
Roy is amazing! I really want to see him live soon!
jrpjazz 2 years ago 2
Art Farmer wins hands down. Just more recently got into his style
jerec576 2 years ago 3
i agree
0lfo 2 years ago
miles davis plays that in oleo
KJshackx3 2 years ago
5 or 6 years old
peludoviera 2 years ago
How old is Roy here? Anybody know?
micahj 2 years ago
i think art died in '99, so the oldest roy could be is about 29??
KJShackx 2 years ago
Roy looks much younger than that. Early 20s I'd guess. But he's got a baby face anyway, so I don't know.
micahj 2 years ago
Art died in '98, and Roy was born in '69, so he was 30
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago
He is 30
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago
In 1:14 you can see Art Farmer laughing after Roy Hargrove quoting Dizzy's famous solo beginning lick on Ow! That's priceless!
erickoechlin 3 years ago 4
Roy Hargrove is just amazing
erickoechlin 3 years ago 3
woody shaw
jwin161 3 years ago
around 1.28 Roy quotes Monk's Nutty if that was what you meant?
watski 3 years ago
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sjfrost 2 years ago
Ray played that quote from Christopher Columbus.
remilburne7 3 years ago
Art jammin man. lol. Gota love it.
GodzRicko 3 years ago
this is the dizzy tune "ow!"
kdfan 3 years ago