@Dividedhead I'm in Malaysia. I just ordered a milling machine and it's on the way but Christmas holiday delayed.. Cause the tool post of C0 lathe(4 X 5) is already very short, means the rotating body need to be very short or thin. But I already figured out the problem. Once the milling machine arrived I'll start making it. Thanks again.
@ericska Wow... miles away from here! Warmer too I'll bet!?
Good stuff. You'll have so much more that you can make (well easier anyway) with a mill'. Please let me see what you build. Either video response or join and post stills on madmodder :-)
Christmas is fun... but it does slow down progress, I'm waiting on some stuff from China.
Yeah, I just found your web and saw the making of this tool post. So it's a DIY, outstanding! But no hope for my C0 lathe, too small to make one.. I think I have to upgrade a larger lathe., and a milling machine. Thanks for response!
@ericska I made my base and turret on the lathe. I used the Mill to cut the slot for the tool post and make the tool post itself. You can make the tool post small enough for your lathe. you just have to re-design the tool to fit it.
Then you could try to find someone near you who would help you make the milled parts?(don't know where you are?) Or you could go old school..... hacksaw and files! Hard work but gets results.
Looks like the mounting part would be relatively easy. :-)
If you can find a way to make que ball sized threaded knobs you could make a killing off of shifter knobs, just dunk it in clear coat and make sure you get the right thread size, and keep the fine lines on it so the light reflects. I know I would buy one haha.
@3874916402 ... And I'd sell you one! I can make upto 50mm diameter with this tool. So could be done.
The only issues are that the material costs a bomb in small order quantities. It's all manual work so it takes my personal time, which is very valuable to me. Then finally.... You can pick one up from a motor factors cheep as chips!!
@Dividedhead haha nice, If I where you I would buy in bulk (enough to overcome the cost of material and power used by the lathe) then price each by dividing the dollar amount of resources used by the number of shifters you made, then dividing the price by .85 so you'll make 15% profit. spend a weekend just cranking those things out and go to swap meets or car shows and set up a stand haha. If I get a standard car (hopefully soon) you will be hearing from me :).
What is the stripe visible on the ball after you removed it from the lathe and are turning it in your hands? Almost looks like a seam, as if the stock you used were made of two separate pieces of steel. I don't think the stripe is a trick of the light, because it appears to move with the ball.
Since I didn't use the polishing buffer and only a cloth and liquid polish for speed, it left the fine ridges on the surface from the emery.(it was only a demo' piece)
I figure the illusion of it turning with the ball is to do with the light reflecting off the ridges in only the two plains? (reflecting off the left and right of the fine ridges)
I assure you it was made from a solid piece of mild steel bar. I still have it. It's fitted to my tool post!
@Roger674 Some people should really pay attention before spouting off...2:24 read the text then watch what happens.... The chatter is on the collar only. It is then removed with it's own finishing cut.
@toranacar Hi, it's not so good at internal works with the current design tool holder due to the limited depth of the cutting tip.
Last time I needed to make a "cup" I used a form tool.I have videos of that process in aluminium and should've edited it together by now..That was probably a year ago!
If it's of any use to you I'll try and get it done?
It wouldn't be too hard to make the form tool at the same time as the ball you are going to use.
cool video, i need to make me one. what size is your lathe? i have a 7x12 coming tomorrow and i am looking at turning some balls up to 2" in diameter. may take awhile but think it is possible?
You may need access to a milling machine also? Depending on what lathe tooling you have?
If you go to Madmodder (address at end of video) search for either "divided he ad" or "mini ball turner" you can see one I made for a 7x12 lathe.(there are plenty of others out there too)
2" the largest I have made is 50mm with mine (pretty close) it all depends on the height from the turret to the tip. I'm sure you can work it out.
thats pretty sweet dude, ive never seen a tool holder like that before, but im pretty young machinist, only 23, so i definatly still have lots to learn.
All the plans are available from Steve Bedairs site.They may have to be altered to suit your machine?Part of the fun eh?
I've only been hobby machining for 3 years.As said in my profile,I am not a trained machinist,not a machinist at all really (No training) I just make what I can and have fun doing so :-)
If you type in the madmodder address in shown at the end of the vid' I think you might like some of the projects displayed there?
If it took me that long to turn a decorative knob freehand, I would be ashamed. There are two hand wheels on a lathe. Use them. Maybe file a bit, and polish.
@tommyt1959 Well, I do believe you just challenged yourself to prove it in video!
Anyone who has been a member on here since 2007 and is so obviously super talented should clearly have shared some videos by now even if they were only to prove how great he is and not to try to help people like some of us!?
Go on, show us in real time how you make this super fast ball by hand.... Something tells me you'll be too chicken to take that challenge?
If you're serious though? I've found that the spherical shapes are not as well received as the long concave and convex styles. Also a few sections of smaller Ridges (see my radius turner demonstration video as a guide to the kind of thing I mean) seem to hit the spot! Well, that's what I've been told by a few people (customers) who obviously share your desire.
@Poenni1501 Thank you. This piece was made for a demo' I wasn't really trying to get it shiny (see other videos for that) "proper polishing" was meant a little sarcastically.... Should have put a little ;-) smiley in there too?
But I know what you mean, it does give a better finish before polishing if oil is used :)
Great stuff!!- i've not seen the ball cutting thingybob before (the cutting tool holder that swings through a radius), does the handle that you're pulling on also turn to apply feed???
Enjoyed your vid immensly- thanks for posting it ;-)
This was fabulous. We are a home school family and my daughter needed to know what a lathe is. This was a great teaching tool! We loved the music, also. My Pop had a lathe in the basement and made lots of nice furniture for the family. The lathe's gone, but the furniture remains!
i like how you mounted the camera to the Z. At first I thought the spindle and everything else was moving till i realized that it was just my eyes playing tricks on me :)
I knew putting "ball" and "Knob" in the title would sooner or later cause this kind of banter.... It's fine, I'm worldly wise enough to laugh at it all.... If it got too silly I'd just erase it all!
I still think my "womble" retort was funny! Ahh well!
The lathe is a 9x20 Chinese generic one, over there (USA) I think Grizzly and Harbour freight are your main suppliers from what I can tell in various forum based conversions.
The tool doing the cutting is however my home made one, (mostly from plans found on Steve Bedairs website, hyper link in info box. I just altered the cutting tool tip)
It was made on this lathe and my milling machine. You can make this type of radius cutting tool to fit most lathes given enough thought.
You can grab CNC and throw it in to the trash. It's sad that this job is becoming a "press one button" process. The world still needs real craftsman, nice job ^^ you gave me a great idea.
That is so brilliant! I've been brainstorming all day on ways to make a ball on my Unimat, and they were all way over-complicated and wouldn't work very well. This, however, is amazing. Thank you for sharing it!
The plans are all available on Steve Bedairs wedsite
w w w . bedair . o r g - remove the spaces, you know the drill!
Free plans for such a brilliant tool are very rare,so credit must always be given fully to the man who shares IMHO.
I just made a video of the version of the tool that I made.There is a bit of a walk through the making of a mini version of this tool on w w w . madmodder . n e t
I'll be making one soon. (After I make the collet holder that I've been putting off.)
I sold my drill press during a move not long ago. When I get another, I'll post a video for form tool lapping. Some people will use lapping compound on a lathe, but not me!
For those without your attachment, another way of obtaining the same result is making a form tool. (Something from my old Tornos screw machine days.)
For M2 tooling, hog out the approximate radius on an ordinary bench grinder. Turn a rod with the exact radius needed. Use soft brass or copper. Place rod in a drill press, NOT ON YOUR LATHE, and apply lapping compound. Estimate your drop angle and slide tool up & down the rod until the radius is formed. CLEAN.
Not at the moment, but when I need to do a knob once again on my lathe, than I will make a radius turner by myself either, cause it is very difficult to do this with the x y axis.
I did a ball for the first time the other day manually turning both the x and y axis at the same time. After some fine filing LOL it turned out great. I was really proud of myself. But this, this is just awesome. Great product and great vid. Thank You.
I'm a Centre Lathe Turner and you're right about the CNC's but unfortunately that's the way it's going and has been for some time. I'm 43 and the youngest manual turner I know of. We're a dying breed!
I know industry has gone that way,I'm only doing this for fun,a hobby.Occasional evenings and weekends (very occasional in summer)
I'm trying my best to learn skills myself and pick a few up from friends at Madmodder . net (some I've met on quite a few occasions) I know I plug the site a lot,but I feel I have to as it has helped me so much :-)
As long as there are people on forums and posting videos more people will take up the manual machining challenge?
awesome video thanks for sharing. I used to love working on lathes back in school and college. I need to get myself a mini lathe as i need one for my gun projects. 5*****
Done a job last year with a ball end. used a CNC lathe with a left hand and right hand tool to do it, always good to see different ways to do the same job.
Glad you like the video, makes the time worth while :-)
I have used CNC once, a long time ago. I couldn't afford the equiptment these days... Let alone learn the programming stuff!
I have seen a CNC machine creating a ball... Pretty cool to see it just go for it!
Always wonder about the free hand side of it too.... I don't think I could have produced the treadle engine on a computer screen? It was just shaped from my head as I went along.
If it's a ball turner then I've tried this before... It was a lad in this country... Took ages to sort out all the fine detail!! due to not having the lathe to make it to... can be difficult to get the heights correct!
I could put you in touch with some guys in the 'States who have very similar equiptment?
The tool was made from plans on the Steve Bedair website linked to from my channel page (click on my name, top right) in the "connect with dividedhead" box. the tips are Shown in my "mini ball turner" post on "Madmodder(dot)net"
I don't know your first language but your spelling is a little off (also on your site intro) Mine isn't always good.... Usually sucks when I'm typing on videos at 3am!!!
Is how I can translate this.... I think you are asking if this could be used with CNC? I don't think you would need such a tool if you had CNC... Is this what you meant?
Acho que você está perguntando se isso poderia ser usado com CNC? Penso que não seria necessária essa ferramenta se você tivesse CNC ... É isso que você entende?
Just... bravo. Really, really good engineering. I'm a lathe operator but it's numerically controlled; seeing how things can be done manually gives entirely a new broad and, like in this case, astonishing view. I wish to see some gadgets like I've heard once from an Ukrainian gentleman whose father has done a tool that carved internal diameters, making internal spheres inside spheres. I was like O_O when I heard that!
Once again, a heartily Bravo! And great music choice. :D
Thank you, I know many(in my view)people have viewed this and my other videos,it really cheers me up when someone likes them enough to say something nice:-)
I would also like to see the Ukraine gent's work/tooling.
Your lathe..There are plenty of people out there who want to see that kind of tooling at work..So where's your camera/videos?
I look at all commenters sites..Find all sorts of interesting things there ;-)
Glad you like the music too, artist listed in the credits.
I have made a hemisphere of 50mm from hardened steel... Quite a chunk! About as big as I will push the tool in steel.
(Pictures of it can be found on the madmodder (dot ) n e t ) it is to be used in one of my next projects.... May be a little while before that is completed though.
Speed? Are you asking what speed the lathe spindle was rotating at? Approx 900rpm.
If that should have said size? Then it would be somewhere around a 50mm (2") ball. I haven't yet had the need to produce a ball of that size. But soon might....
Thank you, The knob is for nothing in particular. The vid' was made as a form of tutorial really. To help some people who asked me how the tool worked or how to make a ball, same as the nose cone vid', I have no idea what to use that for?
The tool is very versatile as you can see from my other vid's. It has made my turning hobby far more interesting and rewarding.
Hola, voy a traducir este y es de esperar que tenga sentido? .... El instrumento se hizo a partir de un plan por Steve Bedair, Tou puede vincular a su sitio haciendo clic en DIVIDEDHEAD en el decodificador y, a continuación, seleccionar 'bola tornero planes' en el' conectar con la cabeza dividida cuadro '
Yes, if you go to the designers website...Address at the end of the video, or click on my name in the box, top right(by the subscribe button)there is a direct link to ball turner plans on my channel home page in the 'Connect with Dividedhead' box.
The original drawings show the tool design for the hss tip. The build pictures are for the single carbide tip version. Have a good look around Steve's site, there are a few ball turners by different machinists on there.
@Dividedhead I'm in Malaysia. I just ordered a milling machine and it's on the way but Christmas holiday delayed.. Cause the tool post of C0 lathe(4 X 5) is already very short, means the rotating body need to be very short or thin. But I already figured out the problem. Once the milling machine arrived I'll start making it. Thanks again.
ericska 2 months ago
@ericska Wow... miles away from here! Warmer too I'll bet!?
Good stuff. You'll have so much more that you can make (well easier anyway) with a mill'. Please let me see what you build. Either video response or join and post stills on madmodder :-)
Christmas is fun... but it does slow down progress, I'm waiting on some stuff from China.
Hope you have a good Xmas all the same.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 months ago
Yeah, I just found your web and saw the making of this tool post. So it's a DIY, outstanding! But no hope for my C0 lathe, too small to make one.. I think I have to upgrade a larger lathe., and a milling machine. Thanks for response!
ericska 2 months ago
@ericska I made my base and turret on the lathe. I used the Mill to cut the slot for the tool post and make the tool post itself. You can make the tool post small enough for your lathe. you just have to re-design the tool to fit it.
Then you could try to find someone near you who would help you make the milled parts?(don't know where you are?) Or you could go old school..... hacksaw and files! Hard work but gets results.
Looks like the mounting part would be relatively easy. :-)
Dividedhead 2 months ago
Where to buy that tool post?
ericska 2 months ago
@ericska You have to make it! It doesn't take too long if you have a lathe and a milling machine.
Other than that you could have one made..... But it has to be very specific to the height of the individual lathe it's made for.
Dividedhead 2 months ago
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ericska 2 months ago
Awesome project, awesome music, fucking right!
carter102 3 months ago
@carter102 Indeed! :-) Glad you like it.
Dividedhead 2 months ago
why dinit u use a auto lathe in stead of a manule
LoySisRoo 7 months ago
@LoySisRoo Quite simple really.... I have a manual lathe and could make this tool for only a few pounds and a few hours work.
A CNC lathe would cost thousands new or hundreds to convert this one. Plus I have no real need for a CNC lathe.
Dividedhead 7 months ago
If you can find a way to make que ball sized threaded knobs you could make a killing off of shifter knobs, just dunk it in clear coat and make sure you get the right thread size, and keep the fine lines on it so the light reflects. I know I would buy one haha.
3874916402 10 months ago
@3874916402 ... And I'd sell you one! I can make upto 50mm diameter with this tool. So could be done.
The only issues are that the material costs a bomb in small order quantities. It's all manual work so it takes my personal time, which is very valuable to me. Then finally.... You can pick one up from a motor factors cheep as chips!!
(They are bloody cold in winter too!) :-)
Dividedhead 10 months ago
@Dividedhead haha nice, If I where you I would buy in bulk (enough to overcome the cost of material and power used by the lathe) then price each by dividing the dollar amount of resources used by the number of shifters you made, then dividing the price by .85 so you'll make 15% profit. spend a weekend just cranking those things out and go to swap meets or car shows and set up a stand haha. If I get a standard car (hopefully soon) you will be hearing from me :).
3874916402 10 months ago
nice choice of music.
UTubeisSHIT523441 1 year ago
@UTubeisSHIT523441 Glad you like it :-)
Dividedhead 11 months ago
@Dividedhead ed alleyne johnson?
Caige 8 months ago
@Caige Yup! Ed rocks!!!
If you stayed to watch the credits it has the track, album and artist details there :-)
Dividedhead 8 months ago
What is the stripe visible on the ball after you removed it from the lathe and are turning it in your hands? Almost looks like a seam, as if the stock you used were made of two separate pieces of steel. I don't think the stripe is a trick of the light, because it appears to move with the ball.
pkjimdandy 1 year ago
@pkjimdandy It is the light.
Since I didn't use the polishing buffer and only a cloth and liquid polish for speed, it left the fine ridges on the surface from the emery.(it was only a demo' piece)
I figure the illusion of it turning with the ball is to do with the light reflecting off the ridges in only the two plains? (reflecting off the left and right of the fine ridges)
I assure you it was made from a solid piece of mild steel bar. I still have it. It's fitted to my tool post!
Dividedhead 1 year ago
@Dividedhead I suppose it was an illusion, but it sure looks like a longitudinal stripe.
pkjimdandy 1 year ago
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sprechzeiten5 1 year ago
If it's a finishing cut what good is it if it chatters!?
The whole point of a finishing cut is that you you go down to size and have a good finish, end of.
Roger674 1 year ago
@Roger674 Some people should really pay attention before spouting off...2:24 read the text then watch what happens.... The chatter is on the collar only. It is then removed with it's own finishing cut.
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Good video.
Bear5177 1 year ago
@Bear5177 Thank you :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Can you use this to make a bronze or nylon cup for a ball joint?
toranacar 1 year ago
@toranacar Hi, it's not so good at internal works with the current design tool holder due to the limited depth of the cutting tip.
Last time I needed to make a "cup" I used a form tool.I have videos of that process in aluminium and should've edited it together by now..That was probably a year ago!
If it's of any use to you I'll try and get it done?
It wouldn't be too hard to make the form tool at the same time as the ball you are going to use.
I can supply Crap-o-Cads (sketches) if you like?
Dividedhead 1 year ago
cool video, i need to make me one. what size is your lathe? i have a 7x12 coming tomorrow and i am looking at turning some balls up to 2" in diameter. may take awhile but think it is possible?
jeremy0203 1 year ago
@jeremy0203 Thank you. Making one is fun.
You may need access to a milling machine also? Depending on what lathe tooling you have?
If you go to Madmodder (address at end of video) search for either "divided he ad" or "mini ball turner" you can see one I made for a 7x12 lathe.(there are plenty of others out there too)
2" the largest I have made is 50mm with mine (pretty close) it all depends on the height from the turret to the tip. I'm sure you can work it out.
Have fun :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
@Dividedhead
you should make me one
jeremy0203 1 year ago
@jeremy0203 Nice idea! Few issues with that though... Poor way to request someone's assistance!
Wrong side of the pond too. Expensive mailing all the bits for test
(unless you want to pay for my flight? :-) )
Also bespoke tooling doesn't work out cheap! Quite a few of your dollaroonies!
There are plenty of really nice guys over there who might help you out if you ask very nicely. (could/would you, please? You know? request!)
It would certainly work out faster and cheaper for you :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
thats pretty sweet dude, ive never seen a tool holder like that before, but im pretty young machinist, only 23, so i definatly still have lots to learn.
ranchlingger 1 year ago
@ranchlingger Thank you,glad you like it.
All the plans are available from Steve Bedairs site.They may have to be altered to suit your machine?Part of the fun eh?
I've only been hobby machining for 3 years.As said in my profile,I am not a trained machinist,not a machinist at all really (No training) I just make what I can and have fun doing so :-)
If you type in the madmodder address in shown at the end of the vid' I think you might like some of the projects displayed there?
Ralph.
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Top notch video....thanks!
UnderseaCaveman 1 year ago
@UnderseaCaveman Thank you. Glad you like it :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
what kind of a lathe machine is that ?
tintinfan007 1 year ago
@tintinfan007
It is a metal turning lathe. 9x20 model.
It has a radius turning tool post on it that I made myself adapted from plans I found on Steve Bedair's 9x20 website (link in the description).
Dividedhead 1 year ago
@brianszoo Thank you, Happy you liked it :-)
Bit of a typo in there? But I'm thinking you'd like this kind of tooling to make stuff on?
It took me years to get around to buying a lathe and a milling machine.... Very happy that I did in the end :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
@youcanprobemeuk Thank you.
Tis a great bit of tooling to use :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
If it took me that long to turn a decorative knob freehand, I would be ashamed. There are two hand wheels on a lathe. Use them. Maybe file a bit, and polish.
tommyt1959 1 year ago
@tommyt1959 Well, I do believe you just challenged yourself to prove it in video!
Anyone who has been a member on here since 2007 and is so obviously super talented should clearly have shared some videos by now even if they were only to prove how great he is and not to try to help people like some of us!?
Go on, show us in real time how you make this super fast ball by hand.... Something tells me you'll be too chicken to take that challenge?
Some people... Gods in their own minds!
Dividedhead 1 year ago 2
nice choice of music man!
easz87 1 year ago
@easz87 Indeed... All the info on the artist can be found in the credits. he has quite a few albums now.
Dividedhead 1 year ago
awsome! never seen
JustJon0 1 year ago
@JustJon0
Thank you.
Happy that you like the video :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
i want to make a dildo but i dont have the tool to make a ball :(
bmneumann 1 year ago
@bmneumann
There's always one... May as well be you!
If you're serious though? I've found that the spherical shapes are not as well received as the long concave and convex styles. Also a few sections of smaller Ridges (see my radius turner demonstration video as a guide to the kind of thing I mean) seem to hit the spot! Well, that's what I've been told by a few people (customers) who obviously share your desire.
Hope this helps? :-)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Very, very nice. You can also put (cutting)oil on fine sandpaper and polish it with that. The surface will be great, too.
Poenni1501 1 year ago
@Poenni1501 Thank you. This piece was made for a demo' I wasn't really trying to get it shiny (see other videos for that) "proper polishing" was meant a little sarcastically.... Should have put a little ;-) smiley in there too?
But I know what you mean, it does give a better finish before polishing if oil is used :)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Thank was cool Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!
Ethensyardsale 1 year ago
@Ethensyardsale Glad you like it :-)
I will try to make some other stuff worth posting.... Just got very busy this summer?
Dividedhead 1 year ago
dam you got some skills, how long u been turning for?
middlemanclayton 1 year ago
@middlemanclayton Thank you. Skills... Well, I know some stuff :)
Need to learn a lot more!
Been making all sorts of bits and bobs for years, but only got into the machining about 4 years ago.
This was the first piece of tooling I made with my lathe and mill.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Great stuff!!- i've not seen the ball cutting thingybob before (the cutting tool holder that swings through a radius), does the handle that you're pulling on also turn to apply feed???
Enjoyed your vid immensly- thanks for posting it ;-)
aflatminor 1 year ago
@aflatminor Hi, The tool was made from plans available on Steve Bedairs website.
The adjustment is via allen key and grub screws.
Watch the radius turner demonstration video to see it adjusted. Also you can see it cut concaves.
Thank you for your kind words :-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 1 year ago
I would so love to get into this kind of thing. Making things for my home. Lather is expensive. Need to save up
bboy310 1 year ago
@bboy310 Yep, lathes are not particularly cheap.... 2nd hand ones still often work well though.
Remember that a milling machine is never too far behind, plus lots of tooling.... It's the tools that really take the money from your pocket!
Good luck with the saving and remember to be careful around these machines, they have a tendency to rip things off!!!
Dividedhead 1 year ago
This was fabulous. We are a home school family and my daughter needed to know what a lathe is. This was a great teaching tool! We loved the music, also. My Pop had a lathe in the basement and made lots of nice furniture for the family. The lathe's gone, but the furniture remains!
JoesWife1000 1 year ago
@JoesWife1000
Thank you :-) Very happy that it helped.
The music is some of my favourite instrumental stuff, from Ed Alleyne Johnson. Fantastic electronic violin player.
Nice to know the furniture lives on, shame the skills and the lathe were not passed down too.
Home schooling... how nice must it be to have a tool like the interweb to help with the "how stuff works" bit? :)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Let me guess- the camera is mounted on the cross-slide(?)
PhantomMigKiller 1 year ago
@PhantomMigKiller Yup.
Works a treat always keeps the tool in frame and a side benefit it messes with peoples minds :)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
@Dividedhead I Thought so...
PhantomMigKiller 1 year ago
i like how you mounted the camera to the Z. At first I thought the spindle and everything else was moving till i realized that it was just my eyes playing tricks on me :)
UniversalWake 1 year ago
@UniversalWake
Hehe.... Yup, I made the vid' and it threw me during the editing too :-)
Makes it a more unusual vid'. Probably best not viewed when drunk! :)
The camera mount I made (not too impressive!) is posted on the MadModder website. (See vid' for address 3:22 onwards )
Dividedhead 1 year ago
Just got an old Holdridge Radii Cutter off eBay (not creative like you). Went looking for vids of folks turning rads, enjoyed yours. Tnx, D
l98c4 1 year ago
@l98c4
Not too bad of a tool I see from my quick search.
It'll certainly do the job :)
The fact that you now have the tool means that you can now be creative!
Glad you liked the vid'.
Have fun :)
Dividedhead 1 year ago
really good work man.
yusufer5000 2 years ago
Cheers dude.
Glad you like the vid'
:-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
What song is this? Nice ball, two is better than one.
skippytdi 2 years ago
@skippytdi very gay
Yotehunter93 2 years ago
@ Yotehunter93
How very odd that you would chose my video to "come out"?
:-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
@Dividedhead i wasnt talking shit about the video, good work on that, just the guy above me said a gay ball comment. so i was calling him "very gay"
Yotehunter93 2 years ago
@ Yotehunter93
I knew putting "ball" and "Knob" in the title would sooner or later cause this kind of banter.... It's fine, I'm worldly wise enough to laugh at it all.... If it got too silly I'd just erase it all!
I still think my "womble" retort was funny! Ahh well!
:-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
wie wärs mit KSS?
Asgardsjaeger 2 years ago
wozu ?
bei der entsprechenden Material / Schneidenwerkstoff kombination gehts auch ohne ...
Quattroowner 2 years ago
Trauriger Leiter, mein Deutscher ist nicht guter der! Und der Internet-Übersetzer ist offensichtlich nicht auch nicht!?
Dividedhead 2 years ago
what kind of lathe is that? i'm looking to get one and want to be able to do more than just cylindrical work
blacklabelqlewis 2 years ago
The lathe is a 9x20 Chinese generic one, over there (USA) I think Grizzly and Harbour freight are your main suppliers from what I can tell in various forum based conversions.
The tool doing the cutting is however my home made one, (mostly from plans found on Steve Bedairs website, hyper link in info box. I just altered the cutting tool tip)
It was made on this lathe and my milling machine. You can make this type of radius cutting tool to fit most lathes given enough thought.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
tool holder with VNMG 160408 thats nice
Valtomotive 2 years ago
They are VBMT 160408 -UR tips.... Got 20 of 'em cheap of e-blag :-)
Has been doing the job well for over 2 years now too.... Not bad for the first tool I ever made for my lathe :)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
You can grab CNC and throw it in to the trash. It's sad that this job is becoming a "press one button" process. The world still needs real craftsman, nice job ^^ you gave me a great idea.
exdead 2 years ago
Well it has it's uses..... But not if you want 1 off original bespoke items :-)
Fully agree with the craftsmen part.... Sadly I'm only playing at it. There are some proper' skilled guys out there!!
Great idea ehh? I think once it's underway/finished that a video or at least a nudge to a web page etc should follow such a statement? :)
Thank you for the positive comments.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Hey, nice video. If you don't mind me asking, what background music did you use? It sounds almost like Chrono Cross or Final music.
WebPortalNet 2 years ago
Thank you.
You should have stayed till the end credits!!! LOL!
Ed Alleyne-Johnson "Orange " from "Ultraviolet"
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Excellent... well done.
ghostpiper1 2 years ago
Thank you.
Always nice to know my efforts are appreciated :-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
You are welcome. I've been a fitter/turner for 30 years. That is a neat attachment you have made. Credit where due.
ghostpiper1 2 years ago
That is a nice piece, mister. :)
Puani 2 years ago
Thank you.
Happy you like it.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Nicely done! And I love the music.
coRn3 2 years ago
Thank you and yes, so do I :-)
Haven't seen Ed' for a while but I'm sure he'll pop up in Chester again some day?
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Now I've seen the end titles. ;)
EmperorAst 2 years ago
Very good video with appropriate music. How is the song called?
EmperorAst 2 years ago
Is that a Jet 9x20? Do you like it if so? -TIA Rob
berkelusa 2 years ago
It is as far as I know pretty much the same.
most Chinese 9x20 lathes are very similar.
Some are good, some are not so good.... But mine does it's job fairly well.
It handles some fairly large project parts without much fuss too :-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
wow ..... amazing jop , u is japanese ? and where u from ?
melayupig 2 years ago
Hi,
Not quite... British :-)
Happy you like the work, Do you have any machinery / make anything?
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Great idea!!!!
jridout01 2 years ago
Yes, yes it is :-)
Thanks to Steve Bedair's plans we can all share in it too :-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
I've seen this particular ball radius tool design for the mini lathes numerous times and still never get tired of seeing it in action.
FarmMachinist 2 years ago
I never get tired of using it either :-)
Still the best tool I ever made for my lathe!
Dividedhead 2 years ago
That is so brilliant! I've been brainstorming all day on ways to make a ball on my Unimat, and they were all way over-complicated and wouldn't work very well. This, however, is amazing. Thank you for sharing it!
Jonny5rd 2 years ago
I'm very happy that it has helped you :-)
The plans are all available on Steve Bedairs wedsite
w w w . bedair . o r g - remove the spaces, you know the drill!
Free plans for such a brilliant tool are very rare,so credit must always be given fully to the man who shares IMHO.
I just made a video of the version of the tool that I made.There is a bit of a walk through the making of a mini version of this tool on w w w . madmodder . n e t
Could be worth a look for you,small lathe etc?
Dividedhead 2 years ago
That is one slick attachment!
I'll be making one soon. (After I make the collet holder that I've been putting off.)
I sold my drill press during a move not long ago. When I get another, I'll post a video for form tool lapping. Some people will use lapping compound on a lathe, but not me!
luvofcountry 2 years ago
Yep, very slick IMO :-)
The joys of the "round tuit" list!
If you get to make the form tool video. Feel free to add it as a video response so that others can link to it from here :-)
Enjoy your collet holder project.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
For those without your attachment, another way of obtaining the same result is making a form tool. (Something from my old Tornos screw machine days.)
For M2 tooling, hog out the approximate radius on an ordinary bench grinder. Turn a rod with the exact radius needed. Use soft brass or copper. Place rod in a drill press, NOT ON YOUR LATHE, and apply lapping compound. Estimate your drop angle and slide tool up & down the rod until the radius is formed. CLEAN.
Great for even long production runs!
luvofcountry 2 years ago
I think a video is needed ;-)
This is just one of many ways of making a ball.... There are many other tools and methods.
Many have been discussed on various forums.
This is the tool I made and I love the repeatable results it gets :-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Wooow, very great indeed.
5/5*
Hasenbraeter 2 years ago
Thank you.
Happy that you like the video.
Are you going to make a radius turner yourself?
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Not at the moment, but when I need to do a knob once again on my lathe, than I will make a radius turner by myself either, cause it is very difficult to do this with the x y axis.
So thanks once again for this innovation.
Hasenbraeter 2 years ago
Damn - it must feel so good to create something like that. It's fun just watching it! Thanks for posting.
StonyRC 2 years ago
It's always a good feeling and fun making stuff..... The best part was making the tool to make the ball!
The tool has helped me make some very different looking projects too :-)
Glad you liked the video and took the time to comment.
Thank you.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
I did a ball for the first time the other day manually turning both the x and y axis at the same time. After some fine filing LOL it turned out great. I was really proud of myself. But this, this is just awesome. Great product and great vid. Thank You.
filaso21 2 years ago
Good going.... Manually turning a ball on the X & Y is hard going.... I understand the filing!!
Do you have a lathe and Mill? you could make a tool like this in a relativly short time, the mini one I made took about a week (spare evenings etc)
It's tough to make without the mill but not impossible.... So I've heard!
Now all you need are a few videos of things that you have made.....
Glad you liked the vid' and thank you for taking the time to comment :-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
With all the vids of the cnc machines around i find it heartwarming to see there are still real people around with real craftmanship.
You just made my day m8,keep it up and thx for sharing the vid and the knowledge.
MrBlindbird 2 years ago
Well, I'm very happy to have made your day :-)
If this video and or others I make have a positive effect on others then it is all good.
Thank you for the kind words.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
I'm a Centre Lathe Turner and you're right about the CNC's but unfortunately that's the way it's going and has been for some time. I'm 43 and the youngest manual turner I know of. We're a dying breed!
jubbaronny 2 years ago
Hi,
I know industry has gone that way,I'm only doing this for fun,a hobby.Occasional evenings and weekends (very occasional in summer)
I'm trying my best to learn skills myself and pick a few up from friends at Madmodder . net (some I've met on quite a few occasions) I know I plug the site a lot,but I feel I have to as it has helped me so much :-)
As long as there are people on forums and posting videos more people will take up the manual machining challenge?
Pass on your skills! :-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
lol,it is great hmm i thinh i will make samething like this to my lathe, great work
lemurbb 2 years ago
Thank you.
You will never regret making this tooling as it has so many uses when adding a little style to your work ;-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
i am going this saturday to work to make it :) greeting from poland :)
lemurbb 2 years ago
Good stuff!
I hope you enjoy using it as much as I have using this one :-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
To see modifications to this tool design and a mini version I made for a 7x12 mini lathe visit
w w w . madmodder . net
Give the site a good look over and if you have stuff to contribute then please do so.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Go to Bedair (dot) org to see the plans for this tool and give the inventor all the credit.
Thank you Steve, the design works wonders!!
Dividedhead 2 years ago
nice vid thanks for showing
what is the speed your are running??
floatncoffee 2 years ago
Hi,
thank you.
The speed was in the region of 1800 Rpm.
I made the near 50mm hemisphere in my other video at the same Rpm.... Carbide tooling allows for a bit of punishment :-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
Much faster then filing is!
causticblood 2 years ago
Certainly... and far more accurate!
There are many ways of getting a ball from your metal.... But I really like this one :-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
good music and ball :)
scuffieduffie 2 years ago
Yep, good music.... Won't argue with that!
Glad you like the ball too.... :-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 2 years ago
wow thats some very early g code lol
sentinal2000 2 years ago
Yup... "Gee" was close to the phrase used when I first got it to cut right!! :-)
Dividedhead 2 years ago
cool. i made a radius cutter with the same principles. where did you get that particular one?
xD12xSiCkNaStY 3 years ago
Hi, I made this tool using the plans from Steve Bedair (w w w . Bedair. o r g ) I've made a mini lathe version too (w w w . Madmodder . n e t )
Glad you like it.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
awesome video thanks for sharing. I used to love working on lathes back in school and college. I need to get myself a mini lathe as i need one for my gun projects. 5*****
GT03235 3 years ago
Hi and thank you for the compliment.
I was the same, school and college then a gap of 15 years or so.... Then an idea that required a lathe a couple of years ago.... The rest is history!
Glad you liked it.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
how thick can in diamater can your stock metal be? grate vid
000RickOlopilis000 3 years ago
Hi and thank you.
The largest dia' piece I have turned with this tool is just under 49mm. It is the one in my hemispherical press punch video.
The tool is only limited by the height between the turret and the cutting tip. I would think that on a larger lathe a larger dia' could be cut?
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
nice video, well made.
Done a job last year with a ball end. used a CNC lathe with a left hand and right hand tool to do it, always good to see different ways to do the same job.
UKnick80 3 years ago
Glad you like the video, makes the time worth while :-)
I have used CNC once, a long time ago. I couldn't afford the equiptment these days... Let alone learn the programming stuff!
I have seen a CNC machine creating a ball... Pretty cool to see it just go for it!
Always wonder about the free hand side of it too.... I don't think I could have produced the treadle engine on a computer screen? It was just shaped from my head as I went along.
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
Hi,
If it's a ball turner then I've tried this before... It was a lad in this country... Took ages to sort out all the fine detail!! due to not having the lathe to make it to... can be difficult to get the heights correct!
I could put you in touch with some guys in the 'States who have very similar equiptment?
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
... and here is your new hip Mrs Johnson!
Nice work! looks great
vanepico 3 years ago
LoL ! I wouldn't want to be Mrs Johnson.... Mild steel might just rust a little!!
Although it will do the same in stainless.... Local NHS might be worth a try??!
Glad you like the work :-)
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
nice
happymark1805 3 years ago
Thanks :-)
Dividedhead 3 years ago
where can i get one of those cutting heads and how much would they coust
singful 3 years ago
The tool was made from plans on the Steve Bedair website linked to from my channel page (click on my name, top right) in the "connect with dividedhead" box. the tips are Shown in my "mini ball turner" post on "Madmodder(dot)net"
I don't know your first language but your spelling is a little off (also on your site intro) Mine isn't always good.... Usually sucks when I'm typing on videos at 3am!!!
Take it easy, visit Madmodder and enjoy!
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
para que CNC quando se tem essa ferramenta???
12345678andersonjose 3 years ago
"CNC so that when you have this tool?"
Is how I can translate this.... I think you are asking if this could be used with CNC? I don't think you would need such a tool if you had CNC... Is this what you meant?
Acho que você está perguntando se isso poderia ser usado com CNC? Penso que não seria necessária essa ferramenta se você tivesse CNC ... É isso que você entende?
Sorry but I do not speak Portuguese.
Desculpe, mas eu não falam Português.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
no.. actually he meant "why CNC when you have this tool??" meaning that not always CNC is the way to go..
aampudia8 3 years ago
Thank you, I kind of said that in my reply.
Except I said if you had CNC rather that you would not need!
Auto tranlaters can be quite good.... But they still leave some things un-decypherable!
Dividedhead 3 years ago
Just... bravo. Really, really good engineering. I'm a lathe operator but it's numerically controlled; seeing how things can be done manually gives entirely a new broad and, like in this case, astonishing view. I wish to see some gadgets like I've heard once from an Ukrainian gentleman whose father has done a tool that carved internal diameters, making internal spheres inside spheres. I was like O_O when I heard that!
Once again, a heartily Bravo! And great music choice. :D
Deusrexmachina 3 years ago
Thank you, I know many(in my view)people have viewed this and my other videos,it really cheers me up when someone likes them enough to say something nice:-)
I would also like to see the Ukraine gent's work/tooling.
Your lathe..There are plenty of people out there who want to see that kind of tooling at work..So where's your camera/videos?
I look at all commenters sites..Find all sorts of interesting things there ;-)
Glad you like the music too, artist listed in the credits.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
Not too bad man DADDY LIKES, Need to make bigger, or have you tried?
MrMopar4268 3 years ago
Hi, Nice phrasing!!
I have made a hemisphere of 50mm from hardened steel... Quite a chunk! About as big as I will push the tool in steel.
(Pictures of it can be found on the madmodder (dot ) n e t ) it is to be used in one of my next projects.... May be a little while before that is completed though.
Glad you like the vid'.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
To see my latest modification to this tool go to MadModder (dot) net and search (tools)
Give the site a good look over and if you have stuff to contribute then please do so.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
Go to Bedair (dot) org to see the plans for this tool and give the inventor all the credit.
Thank you Steve, the design works wonders!!
Dividedhead 3 years ago
nice
MBVENDETTA 3 years ago
wht speed does this do up too ?
BlindedByEvil 3 years ago
Speed? Are you asking what speed the lathe spindle was rotating at? Approx 900rpm.
If that should have said size? Then it would be somewhere around a 50mm (2") ball. I haven't yet had the need to produce a ball of that size. But soon might....
Hope one of these has answered your question?
Dividedhead 3 years ago
Nice job. What's the knob for?
jpm000001 3 years ago
Thank you, The knob is for nothing in particular. The vid' was made as a form of tutorial really. To help some people who asked me how the tool worked or how to make a ball, same as the nose cone vid', I have no idea what to use that for?
The tool is very versatile as you can see from my other vid's. It has made my turning hobby far more interesting and rewarding.
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
was just asking wht speed it does lol. yea and thanks is smaller than than one i use it does up to 2000rpm :D
BlindedByEvil 3 years ago
Fantastic Video. Thank you for sharing
jollysoutherner 3 years ago
No problem, Thank you for your nice comment.
Rlapah.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
que tipo de torre se esta usando, guau!! nunca habia visto hacer esferas en un torno
forva87 3 years ago
Hola, voy a traducir este y es de esperar que tenga sentido? .... El instrumento se hizo a partir de un plan por Steve Bedair, Tou puede vincular a su sitio haciendo clic en DIVIDEDHEAD en el decodificador y, a continuación, seleccionar 'bola tornero planes' en el' conectar con la cabeza dividida cuadro '
Espero que esto funciona?
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago
can it be modded to use HSS tools? i havent got any training with Hard-metal(l) (called so in norway)
LeanderB91 3 years ago
Yes, if you go to the designers website...Address at the end of the video, or click on my name in the box, top right(by the subscribe button)there is a direct link to ball turner plans on my channel home page in the 'Connect with Dividedhead' box.
The original drawings show the tool design for the hss tip. The build pictures are for the single carbide tip version. Have a good look around Steve's site, there are a few ball turners by different machinists on there.
Good luck,
Ralph.
Dividedhead 3 years ago