@sweetsugarsissy You think the term "rap" really is an acronym? Can it really be that none of you people are able to distinguish between rap and spoken word poetry? In that case I really can't see how you can appreciate this or hip hop music.
Rhythm is very often used in poems. It's more common than normal rhymes.
He's not speaking to the beat, he's speaking over it; that is to say that the drum beat is background rhythm and not a part of his rhythm, which is hardly even there.
could it be that rap music truly started out west???? have i been lied to? wow this was in 69' in watts california, its rhymes over a beat a drum beat thats rap music holy shit!!!
Not sure what it is with music that people feel they need to discredit one artist to appreciate another. Lil Wayne isn't my cup of tea but good luck to him as he's found his niche in the market.
Folk don't seem to realise that some of the biggest funk, soul, Jazz artists of our time were stigmatised and discredited because they took music to another place. I know what I like but I try to keep my mind open
@cdrom5 true, most folks did get ripped off in the music business. The issue with Lil Wayne though is not to discredit him but to hold him accountable not for his niche at the market but his lack of self respect. Lil Wayne's a a great writer and composer but his image and his philosophy is about nothing positive for anyone except corporations and White public who always want entertainment in a clown suite.
It's not the open mind that is an issue it's the limited mind we aim 2 challenge
@pachacutti I hear you reg. the corporations argument but even our interpretations of positivity and limited minds are subjective. Snoop Dog ? some decent rap tunes -IMO- and then a load of gangsta porn tapes !
Question, is Li'l Wayne placating the corporations or serving a so called limited minded group ?
I like watching educational stuff on tv / internet . I know some well educated folk who are happy to watch mostly reality TV and soaps when they're at home. Now how do I challenge them ?
@bnsomin I'm just voicing my opinion and having a good debate (imo) with pachacutti. If you re-read my comments - my point- is actually about NOT changing people as we are all different.
The "how do I challenge them " question was rhetorical.
@cdrom5 i found your debate interesting and thought provoking, not trying to put you down. this always happens in youtube comments, when you cant translate tone and turns of phrase are misread, my bad. i agree with much of what was said, except for what i interpreted as a pining for the past "when art was better" which i hear from people all the time.
@cdrom5 what i meant to say really, is there is always good art to be found, but that the majority of people, from any and every generation are fairly lazy, and content not to seek it out or break from routine.
@bnsomin OK, I've re-read my own comments and I wish I could type as eloquently and indeed as concisely as some of the other youtubers.
Sorry if I came over defensive as I agree with you about the being yourself.
I appreciate the past and do get nostalgic but I think becoming trapped in the past and closing your mind to progressiveness is restrictive in so many ways.
Yes, I know some of those lazy folk you talk about .
@cdrom5 now that i re-read your comments i see that you are right, i did misinterpret what you were saying. i essentially combined the comments of others here, with what you were saying and attributed it to you two guys. great discussion tho.
@pachacutti@cdrom5 nostalgia is bullshit. the future need be mined and uncovered to be discovered. look beyond the plastic veneer, the mainstream, the pop, to find the cream of the crop. the truth, the beauty, the finest of the art, is a thing of the underground, until it is found, by the pimps and the whores, who take it, and fake it and cut out the core, leaving a hollow bore. that is the cycle of evolution, of revolution. the nature of the biz. live in the now, that's all there is. peace.
@beastaller2 the same way that Captain Kirk turned into TJ Hooker! The same way that Ice Cube went from Fukc the Police to Barber Shop and Are We There yet? Bamboozled by a lack of elder examples to keep them in line. Misdirected by corporate greed that's turned into cultural starvation. If Lil Wayne had been alive in the 1960s he would have been rapping like Jamil Al-Amin because he would have had some grounding!
Why do I think The Same Feel the Same Minus the Cocaine!!!Thinking thoughts Standing n Detroit Feeling Like Am In SUDAN Stranger N A StrangeLand!!!Thank the Creator 4 the Prophets!! Laws Cant stop IT!!!
The days thee hours/The days thee hours the moment when the minds anguish You know solace/Except you knew she was there/or you hoped she was there/an you hope she still love you if she ever did/Looking back now on what has taken place in the last few days I wonder if I am happy/Being that I have never been happy before/I dont know/And Donna is my woman can you imagine I have a woman who says she loves me/I mean she might mean it/And although Im known as a love poet I know nothing of it
Ive only recorded the dull affairs with half dead woman an not alive girls who give every thing except what a man wants/Or more so what he needs which is/That I dont no either/Only knowing that these are excerpts from a mind that wanders wonders yet doesnt know/But I know you Donna I know the soft flow of you I know your smile and yes I think I am happy/But theres a misery there theres an aimless hunger/That gnaws at what use to be my brain/
The glue Ive been sniffing has eaten half my brain away I think/The music of Lou Rawls the non effect of cocaine sniffed this morning the stuttering of thoughts that seem to capture nothing life the whirlpool of nothing an why do I think like this/The forming of these words to say of me making an essay play or what of me/Questions hoping to lead me to answers/answers hoping to lead me to what/Cry!/Crying for meaning pass my stomachs warmth
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greenpeacemyass 1 month ago
nardwuar brought me here
falexarzan 1 month ago
the original , still true still good! we love you amde!
MrGOTAMA420 3 months ago
real hip hop!.....luhv it!
tulerez 5 months ago
@tulerez How is this hip hop? He's not rapping, he's speaking. This is spoken word poetry.
greenpeacemyass 1 month ago
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sweetsugarsissy 1 month ago
@greenpeacemyass R(ythm) A(nd) P(oetry)!!! So I guess he is rapping...
sweetsugarsissy 1 month ago
@sweetsugarsissy You think the term "rap" really is an acronym? Can it really be that none of you people are able to distinguish between rap and spoken word poetry? In that case I really can't see how you can appreciate this or hip hop music.
Rhythm is very often used in poems. It's more common than normal rhymes.
He's not speaking to the beat, he's speaking over it; that is to say that the drum beat is background rhythm and not a part of his rhythm, which is hardly even there.
greenpeacemyass 1 month ago
@greenpeacemyass All things have their evolution...
...don't they?
sweetsugarsissy 1 month ago
@sweetsugarsissy You can say that, but it's still wrong to say that a wooden wheel is a car.
greenpeacemyass 1 month ago
@greenpeacemyass Oh I'm sorry, I'm wrong, you have innate knowledge
sweetsugarsissy 1 month ago
could it be that rap music truly started out west???? have i been lied to? wow this was in 69' in watts california, its rhymes over a beat a drum beat thats rap music holy shit!!!
DeeeDotBo 6 months ago
@DeeeDotBo No. He's not rapping.
greenpeacemyass 1 month ago
Thank You Naurdwaur .. this is history ..
bigclassclown219 6 months ago 5
Naurdwaur Vs. Snoop brought me here. Glad it did
hereweareentertainus 7 months ago 14
Black Power!!!
BillionGODSun 9 months ago
this would be even more beautiful without the percussion
cantonesespeaker 9 months ago
Not sure what it is with music that people feel they need to discredit one artist to appreciate another. Lil Wayne isn't my cup of tea but good luck to him as he's found his niche in the market.
Folk don't seem to realise that some of the biggest funk, soul, Jazz artists of our time were stigmatised and discredited because they took music to another place. I know what I like but I try to keep my mind open
cdrom5 9 months ago
@cdrom5 true, most folks did get ripped off in the music business. The issue with Lil Wayne though is not to discredit him but to hold him accountable not for his niche at the market but his lack of self respect. Lil Wayne's a a great writer and composer but his image and his philosophy is about nothing positive for anyone except corporations and White public who always want entertainment in a clown suite.
It's not the open mind that is an issue it's the limited mind we aim 2 challenge
pachacutti 9 months ago
@pachacutti I hear you reg. the corporations argument but even our interpretations of positivity and limited minds are subjective. Snoop Dog ? some decent rap tunes -IMO- and then a load of gangsta porn tapes !
Question, is Li'l Wayne placating the corporations or serving a so called limited minded group ?
I like watching educational stuff on tv / internet . I know some well educated folk who are happy to watch mostly reality TV and soaps when they're at home. Now how do I challenge them ?
cdrom5 9 months ago
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bnsomin 9 months ago
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bnsomin 9 months ago
@cdrom5 @pachacutti P.S. dont try to change people. be yourself and lead by example.
bnsomin 9 months ago
@bnsomin I'm just voicing my opinion and having a good debate (imo) with pachacutti. If you re-read my comments - my point- is actually about NOT changing people as we are all different.
The "how do I challenge them " question was rhetorical.
Peace
cdrom5 9 months ago
@cdrom5 i found your debate interesting and thought provoking, not trying to put you down. this always happens in youtube comments, when you cant translate tone and turns of phrase are misread, my bad. i agree with much of what was said, except for what i interpreted as a pining for the past "when art was better" which i hear from people all the time.
bnsomin 9 months ago
@cdrom5 what i meant to say really, is there is always good art to be found, but that the majority of people, from any and every generation are fairly lazy, and content not to seek it out or break from routine.
bnsomin 9 months ago
@bnsomin OK, I've re-read my own comments and I wish I could type as eloquently and indeed as concisely as some of the other youtubers.
Sorry if I came over defensive as I agree with you about the being yourself.
I appreciate the past and do get nostalgic but I think becoming trapped in the past and closing your mind to progressiveness is restrictive in so many ways.
Yes, I know some of those lazy folk you talk about .
I hear you on the translation comment.
cdrom5 9 months ago
@cdrom5 now that i re-read your comments i see that you are right, i did misinterpret what you were saying. i essentially combined the comments of others here, with what you were saying and attributed it to you two guys. great discussion tho.
bnsomin 9 months ago
@pachacutti @cdrom5 nostalgia is bullshit. the future need be mined and uncovered to be discovered. look beyond the plastic veneer, the mainstream, the pop, to find the cream of the crop. the truth, the beauty, the finest of the art, is a thing of the underground, until it is found, by the pimps and the whores, who take it, and fake it and cut out the core, leaving a hollow bore. that is the cycle of evolution, of revolution. the nature of the biz. live in the now, that's all there is. peace.
bnsomin 9 months ago
@anablic search for it now...i uploaded the rest of them
Round2KickboxingGym 9 months ago
Saul Williams
GqFq 11 months ago
After hearing the Last Poets in 69, I heard these brothers and they added fuel to the fire that still burns inside of me.
phyreneyce 1 year ago 2
@phyreneyce right on
MaladaptiveCatalyst 1 year ago
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AMDE IS MA GRADPOPS AND THEY ARE DOIN GUD JUSS TRYNA STAY ALIVE AND GET SUM RESPECT FROM ALL THESE DISRESPECTFUL WANNA BE RAPPERS YA DIGG
KOOYAMON 1 year ago
WoW
HiddenBenefactor 1 year ago
how did this turn into lil wayne
beastaller2 1 year ago 94
@beastaller2 Still have Lupe Fiasco and Talib Kweli. Gotta have the bad and ignorant like wayne to define the good and intelligent like lupe haha
TEAMAFROSAMURAI 10 months ago 2
@beastaller2 the same way that Captain Kirk turned into TJ Hooker! The same way that Ice Cube went from Fukc the Police to Barber Shop and Are We There yet? Bamboozled by a lack of elder examples to keep them in line. Misdirected by corporate greed that's turned into cultural starvation. If Lil Wayne had been alive in the 1960s he would have been rapping like Jamil Al-Amin because he would have had some grounding!
pachacutti 9 months ago
@beastaller2 - somewhat similar to what Lil Wayne did on the ending talk Misunderstood off Carter 3 when contemplating politics and society.
nicmartinez949 6 months ago
@beastaller2 capital
praxiteleanhermes 4 months ago
I wonder what they are up to now ?
heymaria123 1 year ago
Wish there was Things Gonna Get Greater .....
GREAT cut .... heard it on Pandora ... on a Gil Scott Heron list ...
anablic 1 year ago
The Watts Prophets
= TRILL SPILL (VIVID LINGUISTICS)- KiN CAMELL
kinstube 2 years ago
Why do I think The Same Feel the Same Minus the Cocaine!!!Thinking thoughts Standing n Detroit Feeling Like Am In SUDAN Stranger N A StrangeLand!!!Thank the Creator 4 the Prophets!! Laws Cant stop IT!!!
FutureMan2015 2 years ago
Peace My Brother
64novasuper 2 years ago 2
The days thee hours/The days thee hours the moment when the minds anguish You know solace/Except you knew she was there/or you hoped she was there/an you hope she still love you if she ever did/Looking back now on what has taken place in the last few days I wonder if I am happy/Being that I have never been happy before/I dont know/And Donna is my woman can you imagine I have a woman who says she loves me/I mean she might mean it/And although Im known as a love poet I know nothing of it
64novasuper 2 years ago
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64novasuper 2 years ago
Ive only recorded the dull affairs with half dead woman an not alive girls who give every thing except what a man wants/Or more so what he needs which is/That I dont no either/Only knowing that these are excerpts from a mind that wanders wonders yet doesnt know/But I know you Donna I know the soft flow of you I know your smile and yes I think I am happy/But theres a misery there theres an aimless hunger/That gnaws at what use to be my brain/
64novasuper 2 years ago 2
The glue Ive been sniffing has eaten half my brain away I think/The music of Lou Rawls the non effect of cocaine sniffed this morning the stuttering of thoughts that seem to capture nothing life the whirlpool of nothing an why do I think like this/The forming of these words to say of me making an essay play or what of me/Questions hoping to lead me to answers/answers hoping to lead me to what/Cry!/Crying for meaning pass my stomachs warmth
64novasuper 2 years ago
Perhaps politics are the forgings of me, white people, art, poetry, soul, you an me the days thee hours.
64novasuper 2 years ago 2
classic
Sgtangel26 2 years ago
"Without fine arts, there are no fine minds" -Anthony Hamilton (Watts Prophets)
GagnezTV 3 years ago 28
i met these dudes when i was 12
hiphopkid2 3 years ago 2
@hiphopkid2 me too around that age, and today i woke up thinking about them...where did u see them at ?
heymaria123 1 year ago
though im known as a love poet
i kno nothing of it.....
teamprov13 3 years ago
Speak the word speak te truth
Yes the poets have spoken.
suebrighton 3 years ago
Classic
Phonex360 3 years ago