@earnestlyseeking Jam 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. Psa 68:18 is referring to the Father of lights who through Christ( Eph4:8) gives gifts to the Church(1Cr 12:6-10). There isn't two LORDS only one the Father who gave Jesus his name to be his Father' representative.
@21crosscheck21 Said: I'll assume that"s a joke. Answer: I don't play(Exd 20:7) with God' word it is holy. I don't know what you're thinking i'm not a psychic.
i will comment on this text later but i want to say now is that you search for indications of the trinity while the great truth is that Jehovah calls himself father and Jesus is his son : why cant you live with that thought?
and after that you try to find the slightest detail in order to prove WRONG WHAT IS SO OBVIOUS
@afterraincomessun I will appreciate it it you will not fill my video comments section with cut and paste stuff. Here's a news flash for you: I'm not a JW and never will be again. I don't need your "help" You and other JWs refuse to believe that God may possibly be of a more complex nature than we can imagine. We shouldn't think that everything about him is easily explainable. This would include the Trinity. Why did Jesus say to Baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit? (Matt. 28:19)
@afterraincomessun You haven't provided a lot of useful information, but rather have been dodging my questions. Like the one I ask on the other thread about how Jesus can be "a god" and still not be a violation of the commandment in Exodus to have no other Gods. Run away if you must, or if you really want to help me and others here, and you think you are really right, start making videos of your own with your face or voice and stop hiding behind your keyboard.
@afterraincomessun OK the picture is getting a little clearer now. So you were disfellowhsipped for going to other churches. Isn't that an indication of a problem in itself? Your comments are a little broken so I think English may not be your main language. So unless I misunderstood, you read "Mere Christianity". What part of it did you dis-agree with?
@afterraincomessun So you mean Babylonian, as defined by the Watchtower? What made you want to go to other churches, if you were so confident that you had the truth? Something must have happened to break your confidence.
@earnestlyseeking the faithfull and discrete slave provide a truth that we may doubt: but they are so much ahead of our own thinking lets trust Jesus who annointed this slave. Lets trust Jehovah no matter what. No RELIGION OF THIS EARTH THAT DOES NOT RESPECT JEHOVAH WILL ENDURE TILL THE END AND THE NEW BEGINNING. IN THE END ONLY TRUE FOLLOWERS OF JEHOVAH WILL BE THERE: WILL YOU BE THERE? I HOPE IT SO MUCH FOR I LOVE GENUINE RIGHTEOUS PERSONS
@afterraincomessun Matt. 24:45-47 is another of the many parables and illustrations Jesus used in his ministry. There really is no indication he intended this to be applied to a class that was to appear 2000 years in the future. This is a teaching of men, and not God.
I read all NWT Psalm68 in context - Jah God of OT actually came to earth on various times to deliver Israel v7,15-18, and that He shall come again in glory and rule with a rod of iron and dash the heads of His enemies in pieces v21, like He did as OT cloud rider 32-34. This was the Son of God in OT who rode upon the clouds coming in glory to deliver; never was His Father. This is an amazing Psalm ascribing devotion to who we know today as Son of God Jesus Christ. Thats why Paul quoted it Eph4:8.
@earnestlyseeking Jam 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. Psa 68:18 is referring to the Father of lights who through Christ( Eph4:8) gives gifts to the Church(1Cr 12:6-10). There isn't two LORDS only one the Father who gave Jesus his name to be his Father' representative.
CristoYcruz 8 months ago
@CristoYcruz Thr bible says to us there is ONE Lord>>>> Wanna guess who it is??? :')
21crosscheck21 8 months ago
@21crosscheck21 Tell me? I don't take guesses.
CristoYcruz 8 months ago
@CristoYcruz I'll assume that"s a joke
21crosscheck21 8 months ago
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@21crosscheck21 Said: I'll assume that"s a joke. Answer: I don't play(Exd 20:7) with God' word it is holy. I don't know what you're thinking i'm not a psychic.
CristoYcruz 8 months ago
@Upermonotheismos this was a joke of me !
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
Good job finding these nuggets, Dann!
msm1876 8 months ago
i will comment on this text later but i want to say now is that you search for indications of the trinity while the great truth is that Jehovah calls himself father and Jesus is his son : why cant you live with that thought?
and after that you try to find the slightest detail in order to prove WRONG WHAT IS SO OBVIOUS
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
@afterraincomessun I will appreciate it it you will not fill my video comments section with cut and paste stuff. Here's a news flash for you: I'm not a JW and never will be again. I don't need your "help" You and other JWs refuse to believe that God may possibly be of a more complex nature than we can imagine. We shouldn't think that everything about him is easily explainable. This would include the Trinity. Why did Jesus say to Baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit? (Matt. 28:19)
earnestlyseeking 8 months ago
@earnestlyseeking oke like you want : perhaps it is bothering you if somebody again and again rejects your point of view and prove your wrong:
you rather have people that cant reject your "proof" i wont help you for you dont wanna be helped
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
@afterraincomessun You haven't provided a lot of useful information, but rather have been dodging my questions. Like the one I ask on the other thread about how Jesus can be "a god" and still not be a violation of the commandment in Exodus to have no other Gods. Run away if you must, or if you really want to help me and others here, and you think you are really right, start making videos of your own with your face or voice and stop hiding behind your keyboard.
earnestlyseeking 8 months ago
@earnestlyseeking why do you think we never thought :that God may possibly be of a more complex nature than we can imagine.
i have been in several churches and compared the views.
that is why i was disfellowshipped.
But it is clear that Jehovahs witnesses have the only true view thats left.
after having seen and listened to all possible churches mp3 sermons etc.
mere christianity i listened to 3 times and it takes 6 hours
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
@afterraincomessun OK the picture is getting a little clearer now. So you were disfellowhsipped for going to other churches. Isn't that an indication of a problem in itself? Your comments are a little broken so I think English may not be your main language. So unless I misunderstood, you read "Mere Christianity". What part of it did you dis-agree with?
earnestlyseeking 8 months ago
@earnestlyseeking the part where it supports Babylonian teachings
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
@afterraincomessun So you mean Babylonian, as defined by the Watchtower? What made you want to go to other churches, if you were so confident that you had the truth? Something must have happened to break your confidence.
earnestlyseeking 8 months ago
@earnestlyseeking no it was just me looking outside the watchtower and dont understanding what great privilige we have
you dont understand it till now
but we have the best and it may take our lives but still: God is with us:
i did not start to look outside my religion however
i just looked more deeply into it :
and
as you will say
jehovahs witnesses dont encourage independently thinking:
well it turned out that after a carefull search : the witnesses still have the truth
dig some deeper!
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
@afterraincomessun Matt. 24:45-47 is another of the many parables and illustrations Jesus used in his ministry. There really is no indication he intended this to be applied to a class that was to appear 2000 years in the future. This is a teaching of men, and not God.
earnestlyseeking 8 months ago
@earnestlyseeking DO YOU MEAN JESUS WAS NOT TELLING ABOUT THE TIME OF THE END?
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
@earnestlyseeking YEAH YOUR RIGHT
afterraincomessun 8 months ago
@earnestlyseeking THAT IS WHY GOD IS CALLED J ESUS
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afterraincomessun 8 months ago
I am loving this series Dann. God bless you and your studies.
21crosscheck21 8 months ago
I read all NWT Psalm68 in context - Jah God of OT actually came to earth on various times to deliver Israel v7,15-18, and that He shall come again in glory and rule with a rod of iron and dash the heads of His enemies in pieces v21, like He did as OT cloud rider 32-34. This was the Son of God in OT who rode upon the clouds coming in glory to deliver; never was His Father. This is an amazing Psalm ascribing devotion to who we know today as Son of God Jesus Christ. Thats why Paul quoted it Eph4:8.
barbsinclair 8 months ago