I think i am gonna do a parody , thats a , joke film on ur witless arguments , or maybe u can be the seal punching ventura , then ventura cries ,, cos seals dont fight back , and seals run away , you can do the runnin away ,, which is worse than crying , then when i meet a navy seal , and he wants to kill me ,,, i will tell him ,, these were your version of events , and the proof is here ,,,,,,,LOLOLOLOL
BTW we lost our rights 700 years ago , after they took the land , the took our bows , and the right to hunt , basically enslaving us,,,,, if you think thats a lie , or a conspiracy theory , its in black and white ,,,,,,back when a conspiracy might lead to an assasin and a small knife ,,, they didnt have the need to justify their behaviour ,,,,,,,, cos they were tyrants ,,,, see any similarities ,,,,,,,
@TheLeadpepper I went dove hunting last year in the catch season between Christmas and New Year's. And I'm really eager to start bow fishing. It's not really fishing, it's just shooting carp w/ arrows, but still. What do you mean they took our bows and right to hunt? What are you talking about?
@TheLeadpepper Yes, ventura has blamed the USA for 9/11. Yes, he blamed the USA for the Indonesian tsunami. He blames your crooked hierarchy , your own video shows he was denied the chance to show the states is still with its people . America to me is not just a plot of land that can jump behind any ideologie the USA was set up to protect its people , minority rule , minority rule was mussolinis baby , our grandparents stood side by side against ideologies , think ,, they would be shooting us
anyone who has strolled onto this ,,,,, plz ,,,, for a laugh ,,,, go onto this man homesight , and look at videos ,,,,,, this is the sum total of his , or her research ,,,,,,,,, TRULY AN EYE OPENER<<<< notice big letters ,, big eyes wide ,,,, and belly splitting
How did a British news commentator know about bldg 7 collapsing even before it collapsed. You can see it for yourself on you tube. She is standing in front of a window as she is telling us that bldg 7 had collapsed and what do we see through the window?? Bldg 7 still standing. So come on people tell me HOW DID SHE KNOW THAT BLDG 7 WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE WHEN IT HAD NOT YET DONE SO. WAS SHE PSYCHIC? I am so tired of FOX NERDS. I will be waiting for your dumb answer
@klrdotorg bad mouthing the war bad mouthing iraq ,,, r u fukkin stupid ,,, where is the seal attack ,,, any videops ,,,, you fikkin dickwad ,,,,,,,, join the fukkin army ,,, i went for royal marines ,,,, but i had the bollocks and the brains to tell them i was against northern ireland ,,,, go get mum to tighten ur nappy ,,, cos ur shit is spillin everywhere
. Jesse has not blamed the States for 9/11 , he has stated that USA is overun with corrupt politicians ,,,,,,,,,, that he does does blame the ground that you walk on ,,,, so the country is in the clear ,,,,,,,,, he does not blame the peolpe ,,, like them he is just an economic passenger , so he you and a dog named sue , are not responsible ,, he blames some of the worms at the top , JVNS , get your facts , he is not blaming you me and the lamp post .
h that sniper is full of shit,cmon jesse wouldent insult any seal especially one who just lost his life with his family sitting right there,do you guys really think ventura would say we needed more seals to die,cmon
@bigalpo1988 Have a look at what Ventura thinks about the USA:
watch?v=IIjJTI4tmIY
Of course he would say that, he has blamed the country for 9/11, the indonesian tsunami, called the USA a "terrorist nation". He's a world class asshole.
dude , alex jones is new to me , i recently found his site , i left amnesty international 5 years ago , looking at Alec Jones , there r ways of his that r different to mine , but the truth at any cost , any cost , is where his kind have my support , if you choose those that the reap the greatest rewards as your intellectual sponsors , then who has the narrowest attention span . Mr Kyle has made his name off ventura , he was another soldier who deserves respect for his effort, wot of the others
@TheLeadpepper I live in Austin. I've seen Alex Jones' million dollar mansion. He's an entertainer making a killing off of people like you, but, truth at any cost as you say.
@Sevenat1blow . i love your reply , on the basis that he has a mansion , he should not be believed , he should not be believed if he shows no basis for his argument . And even then he may believe it , but it does not mean i agree with his perspective , but he tells it the way he sees it , and you and me , simeon beings can decide when he goes to far , that is the beauty of a brain that can work with concepts . To take this further do you think that the mainstream media are not laiden in luxury
@TheLeadpepper I love your reply, on the basis that it's Fox News it shouldn't be believed...
Alex Jones is a crackpot who appeals to paranoid basket-cases. If he were correct in his proclamations we would all be in FEMA camps after Bush declared martial law. You have a gift for inadvertent irony.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI , Dude it is not my principles running around blowin up humans , that is clearly your double standard , i am a crackpot , you are a narcissistic socially defunct mouthpeice , nice to meet ya
@TheLeadpepper I never blew up anyone who didn't need it.
Yes, you are a crack pot. Following David Ickle who believes in reptilian shape shifters, or Alex Jones, who is a lying sack of crap, believing in the existence of imaginary foes that want to subjugate you and space aliens. ~Crackpot~ 100%
Amazingly enough, you have found a way to make all of that boring. Normally people who believe in UFO's and such are a hoot, paranoiacs can be hilarious, but you are just tedious.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI i do not believe reptilians in charge , cmon you r grabbing at straws , r u able to watch something , not believe it , and still watch ,
You are number what , can somebody save the world from questions , i want to eat cereal safe in knowing that it is simple and easy and i dont have to think or question , coherent facts dont count , science dont count , i just want to be right and nobody argue with me ....sorry jesseVenturanotaSeaI it dont work like that ,
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI fox news are notorious for muted news , it cannot be called news , this like saying that playboy is equal to darwinism in its understanding of events , where are the mainstream offering ventura the chance to answer , he is sueing , but ur patsy has made his name already , so he will not care either , his snout is in the trough and your support will be ?????? keep up this prop for long enuff and he may share his fortune with you
@TheLeadpepper You do realize it's 7am, UK time, which would mean that you spent the entire night flooding me with barely coherent advocacy of bullshit.
@TheLeadpepper Listen you non-infantry-non-jumping-asshole, Alex Jones is just an entertainer. If he believed 10% of what he spewed he wouldn't have a huge mansion, he'd be storing his money, stashing his assets, setting up his family somewhere safe, and so on. It's not that "He has mansion, therefore he can't be believed." It's that "he has a mansion, therefore he's not afraid of imminent social collapse." Don't defend him, you sound silly. Go join the Army, it'll do you well.
@Sevenat1blow you still aint answered any questions ,,, ur just like a parrot ,,, come smartarse ,,, where is your research ,,,,, a little less bollocks and a little more brains ,,,,,, i got both ,,,, wot about you ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,waiting
I find his story to be bullshit, If it happened in 2006 why did it take 6 years to come out? And Faux news just so happens to be the ones to break the story... again i smell bullshit
@ jessventuranotaseal you are a fake.. jesse is the man show ur self come to my town and ill show u what a real navy seal is navy seals dont punch and run like cowerd expecially if theres cops around they would never hit and run like pussies plus its a fuckin felony for a navy seal to hit another person derrrr stupid fucks i bet all u trolls and you all need a life show ur self whats ur real name maby il say i punchd you and ran like that cowered chris kyle
@TheJoseph066 If you are wishing Sailors dead at the funeral reception for a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient then you deserve to lose some teeth.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI , They would , but if they did not , what is answer for those that setup others , you are easily drawn into nonsense, if someone breaks your window, and the next day a glazier seems to be knocking for work , you might ask who broke your window , mr kyle is the glazier .
you know,i could care less who is telling the truth.What stuck out to me,was whn he said,to deal with a 911 truther you just say"how do i know your not behind 911.Really fucked up tht fox is now trying to put in peoples heads tht if someone questions 911 their now behind it.WOW...Really WOW.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI So your saying im behind 9/11,cause i just got back from a tour in iraq defending the good ol USA,and i got to say im A LITTLE indifferent about wht is being told on the subject.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI But u believe wht fox news tells u.Fact is,we will probly never know who is telling the real truth.I tend to lean more on logic.This happened in 2006 whn ventura wasnt making as big of an impact in the crazy wacky world of conspiracy,also tht ventura promotes ron paul(i think),and tht he believes in free speech,and questioning the goverment tht serves US the PEOPLE.Just seems convenient tht this story happens now.
He was mocking truthers because they deserve to be mocked. He was pointing out that accusing truthers of being behind 9/11 makes about as much sense as the claims that truthers make. Sorry you're not bright enough to get that.
@klrdotorgIm not here to argu with children.I guess u didnt read my comment right.Anyway,something seems odd about the timing of this accusation.Why wait so long to bring it out in the open.This chris probly has a reason,but i have a job and fortunatly dont have time to study up on this to make a conclusion backed by real evidence.Neither of these two should be believed untill you all do your own research,which you may have.Q. is,whts so wrong with asking Q no matter wht it is about.
Anyone can ask questions. Just stop asking them when you know they've been answered. Jesse regularly accuses people of not researching 9/11. The truth is - that "truthers" are the worst researchers on the topic. They ignore the real evidence - and stay on their padded truther sites - so they won't see the facts. It's willful ignorance.
And I did understand your moronic post. He wasn't accusing truthers of guilt for 9/11 - because he knows Islamic terrorists attacked us.
@klrdotorg You seem to have it all figured out.Do your history homework and u will see goverment has lied and killed more people thn any other organization on the planet.You really do need to get out more,stop posting videos and go make your own videos to push your ideas.Go to these countrys and acctually talk to their people and see their culture thn maybe you wonte hate islamic faith so much,unless thths how you roll.Thn again children cant be out whn the street lights are on.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Yes my parents have lied to me,ALOT,but,,,,,BUT it was always about shit they did wrong and didnt want me to know.Never on trivial matters.
And like i said.I dont care who is telling the truth out these two pushers of their own agenda.Jesse pushes his shit,and this chris is pushing his.(no pun intended).So i really dont believe neither.
And the islam thing.Im pretty sure every other religion of the world has killed in the name of their god.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Yes my parents have lied to me,ALOT,but,,,,,BUT it was always about shit they did wrong and didnt want me to know.Never on trivial matters.
And like i said.I dont care who is telling the truth out these two pushers of their own agenda.Jesse pushes his shit,and this chris is pushing his.(no pun intended).So i really dont believe neither.
And the islam thing.Im pretty sure every other religion of the world has killed in the name of their god.
@bjh4th Whelp,You are invited to believe what you will. I'm coming down on the side of Kyle.
Islam is unique in that it instructs it's followers to attack and wage war against people who aren't muslims. Lots of atrocities have been committed in the name of religion, but usually they are committed against the teachings of that religion. That isn't the case in islam.
who the fuck hired this white peace of trash talkin shit i bet shes one of those bitches that would get jumped after school or after work like if she was there to know for a fact that it was a true thing that happen
holy shit does Fox News piss me off... to anybody that actually thinks they're not being brainwashed when they watch that piece of shit channel, watch the documentary "Out Foxed". It features interviews with the first team of Fox News reporters from the 80's and 90's, as they speak out about how they were threatened with termination if they didn't report knowingly false propaganda sent down the ladder via daily memos; it's eye opening and will make you think twice about what you see on TV...
@poeticpagesmig16 Yeah, they are declaring war on the word and setting up death camps ... oh wait, no, you just disagree with something they said so you used your entire imagination and called them Nazis. I would return the favor and call that Stalinist but you would probably take that as a complement.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI if lots of people did hear about it y didn't fox ,they get everything accurate 'sarcasm' plus i said anyone that signs up for these jobs is not a hero i'm a 1st gulf war vet and we despise being called heros just like my father and uncles that were in ww2 so get off of your high horse douchebag and shut yer yap
Poor elderly Jesse. Fuck him and you. The people Kyle shot weren't innocent. And when you're a sniper - that's what you do. He was one of the best. Glad he was there protecting his fellow soldiers - killing bad guys. You don't like it? Too fucking bad.
Shake your fist at your computer monitor. I'm sure Kyle is really sweating what you think of him. Hope you're mad as hell ... cuz nobody cares what you think. You're not important, Kyle is.
how about the mourning families of all of the brown people Krissie Kyle assassinated in their home county? u don't give a shit because it's not your family and you're not brown, you disgusting neocon
So you are telling me that a Legendary Navy Seal runs from police but faces real life threatening dangers on a constant basis? Where this really confuses me is that this whole thing took place in a Seal bar during a wake for a fellow Seal and the best that this guy can come up with is TWO witnesses? Where are the other witnesses? I mean surely the place had to of been packed with both a wake for a fallen family member as well as Jesse Ventura being in the same bar.
@jblackrupert Yes there was a punch story going around. It was common knowledge that Ventura was running his mouth at McP's.
Chris Kyle was shot twice, blown up 6 times and did 4 yours in Iraq. FOUR. TOURS. IN. IRAQ. He enabled hundreds of Americans and coalition troops to return home. The man is a genuine hero and has no reason to lie. He also has witnesses.
Ventura has been caught lying so many times... anyone who believes a word he says at this point has a real problem with reality.
If he's talking about this story to increase book sales -- then link me to one video -- where he talks about this story without being directly asked about it.
The story in the book doesn't mention Jesse's name. There have been interviews where this topic was not discussed. Kyle hasn't volunteered the info - he's only talked about it - when specifically asked.
@klrdotorg What's the difference? If someone asks him, or if he says it, the story comes out. If your point is Kyle is a good guy, I agree. But there is money and politics involved either way. That's motivation enough for the story to come out.
It doesn't prove the story wrong, but there's no proof it's true. I can say I punched Jesse Ventura too because he said he hates African Americans. Now Ventura has to deny it. It's b.s.
These are high profile claims. He was asked, and he answered the questions. If he's willfully lying, he could lose a lot of money. More money than whatever the "bump" in sales - that this story propelled.
Jesse has the means, and the history of suing people. If this was a lie, Jesse would sue him. Everyone knows this - including Kyle and his publishers. That's why I'm convinced it's true. That, as well as Jesse's past comments, and the witnesses who've backed the story.
Not suing for lying. I said he could sue Kyle for libel.
I don't think he could put Kyle in jail. Check the statute of limitations.
And yes, you should never trust a terrain analyst. Always check the mountain with your eyes. Thanks for the lesson.
The threat of a lawsuit out-weighs (in my mind) whatever the bump in sales "may" have been. That's just common sense to me. Guess it doesn't mean anything to you? Oh well. You don't trust the witnesses? Oh well.
@klrdotorg "Check the statute of limitations" He could have gone to jail at the time. Good thing he ran then if it's true.
"The threat of a lawsuit out-weighs (in my mind) whatever the bump in sales "may" have been." He's in no danger of a lawsuit. Look at the Flynt v. Falwell case.
"You don't trust the witnesses? Oh well."
Trust has nothing to do with it. There are no STATEMENTS from the witnesses.
@mdarius327 No one has challenged them. Witnesses came forward, gave their names. Ventura/Alex Jones haven't said anything. (What the hell does that tell you)
1) Kyle says it happened.
2) Ventura says it didn't, demands retractions and threatens to sue Chris Kyle &fox News.
3) Chris kyle says he has witnesses. Fox laughs at him, no retraction.
So now he can challenge the witnesses or sue for a retraction.
Ventura has said absolutely nothing. Not a peep. No lawsuit.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI "demands retractions and threatens to sue Chris Kyle &fox News" and Fox changed their story didn't they? It's not "this happened" anymore it's "we think this happened."
"So now he can challenge the witnesses"
Really? Show me what he can challenge. I don't see any statements from them. I see and hear O'Reilly saying their names. Nothing else.
@klrdotorg And look at Alex Jones. That guy is really FOS. He makes a good living though.
Only evidence convinces me something is true.
If the best terrain analyst in the world gives me a grid coordinate that has a mountain on it, and I'm standing there and I don't see a mountain, which do I believe? The reality or the map?
The best terrain analyst is still the best. And he wants to give me an accurate picture.
Chris Kyle has two witnesses. Jessie was UDT and not a SEAL. Jessie is obviously embarrassed and his threats to charge Chris Kyle says he was in-fact punched.
@mdarius327 Maybe he doesn't know. You and I had this out months before, I think at the end you acknowledged there was a difference between the IDT and the SEALs when Ventura was in the UDT, No?
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI No. Not caring and ceding a point are two different things.My point was saying that UDTers were pieces of shit compared to SEALs because Ventura was "only" UDT denigrates not only UDTers service, but all servicemembers. Regardless of what Ventura was, was, whatever. He could have an MOH for all I care. Doesn't mean what he says is true because of it. Those things rest on their own merits.
Same deal here. Kyle is well decorated. Doesn't mean this story is gospel or not.
@mdarius327 Doesn't it denigrate the UDT Frogmen to disassociate yourself with the and claim to be something you weren't? The Guys who blew tup the obstacles at Tarawa were proud to call themselves frogmen.
If someone has a pattern of lying aren't you less apt to believe them?
If Kyle says he punched me in the face at McP's, I can't disprove it. But it's not my job to. It's his job to prove what he says is true.
The funeral and BUD/S class 258 graduation would be some time apart. So maybe Kyle got that wrong. None of this means Kyle is lying. Just that the facts, so far, show something else.
You can "believe" what want. Or state opinion. Saying we "know" is something else.
Jesse has no problem suing people. He just tried to sue the TSA. If this thing never happened - then what Kyle is saying is a slander to Jesse's character. Surely Jesse will sue him for libel ... right?
Unless Jesse knows more witnesses will come forward to back Kyle's strory. Bet ya Jesse never sues or gets a dime from Kyle.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI as I posted in the other thread: BUD/S Class 258 was already in 2nd phase in January 06.
BUD/S is 24 weeks. Monsoor was KIA September 29 06.
Do the math.
On Oct. 11 2006 Ventura was in Texas campaigning with Kinky Friedman. The funeral was a day later. Either he was at McP's before that for 258, went to Texas for the Jewish cowboy and came back one day after or he wasn't there for 258.
Google, public figures, tour schedules.Simple research. I'm done running this down tho.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI And maybe he doesn't know. Maybe he does. It only seems convenient to point out when associating it with some point about Ventura. I believe things because of evidence, not because of someone's background.
Ventura says the government lies. True, generally. But without solid evidence for a specific event it's meaningless. I should shoot a cop that pulls me over for speeding because of JFK? The mailman is out to get me after 9/11?
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI In fairness, Ventura and Alex Jones pull that kind of extended analogy crap all the time, so maybe it's karma on this. Maybe that's ok in general. Doesn't make any specific thing conclusive either way, without evidence.
Ex Gov Ventura said that during his time in the Navy they were called Frog Men and it became SEALs later. Ex Gov Ventura uses the term SEALs generically because it's the current term for the position he and everyone else identifies with, and he's explained this technicality before. However, critics of Gov Ventura pick over that technicality to discredit him saying he wasn't really a SEAL. It's like arguing over an ex airline stewardess now calling herself an ex flight attendant.
SEALs and some soldiers keep secrets for years - all the time. Just because you don't understand the class and character that takes - doesn't make it a lie. The only reason you think it's a lie - is cuz it exposes your conspiratard hero - Jesse V - as the true asshole he is.
@klrdotorg I stopped keeping secrets when I became an adult. Funny how nothing the "conspiretard" had on his shows hasn't been disproven. Admit it, your just scared because it's a truth, you can't see beyond your TV set and Sunday night football.
@MetalHeadKL650 Nothing he's said has been disproven? Yeah, that's why George Bush declared marshall law, is sill in power and we're all in FEMA camps. Get out of the basement and get some fresh air.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Bush can't run 3 terms, they are organizations training to militarize the police to combat "civil unrest" who the fuck do you think that is? US.
Like the 9.0 Earthquake that caused the Indonesian Tsunami? That Jesse said never happened? Do a little investigating ... it happened. But Jesse has a hard-on for HAARP. So in his feeble little brain, that earthquake never happened -- so Jesse could blame the tsunami on HAARP.
But, when it's convenient, HAARP can cause earthquakes. Like Jesse's claim that HAARP caused the Haitian earthquake. See how that works?
@MetalHeadKLR650 So that makes it OK to blame HAARP and the USA for killing hundreds of thousands of indonesians? (When we had relief flights giving out food and water to them)
Oh ... he said it. Saw it on a YouTube video with some Serius radio show host. He specifically said the earthquake didn't happen. It was HAARP. How does he know this? Because someone claims to have seen the Northern Lights in the South Pacific. You believe him? He said it.
@MetalHeadKLR650 The owner of the bar did NOT say it never happened. He stated that he was unaware of it which isn't surprising since it happened in the indoor/outdoor portion of the bar.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI I've seen no report of anyone claiming it was in any specific area of the bar. Nice name, hate much? Too bad the Navy SEALS say Jesse is a SEAL, you could have made an even more retarded and untrue name.
This could be cleared up fairly quickly. Has anyone called the bar and speak to the owner about the incident? If a former professional wrestler and governor was decked in his bar with one punch he surely would have known about it.
@mrjosephyoung The bar owner says he doesn't know anything about it. Evidentially they have gotten tons of phone calls from UFO chasing, basement dwelling, hot-pocket eating, Alex Jones worshiping, time wasting, perpetual virgin, clinical paranoiacs who want to waste their lives.
@frankydoodytoo OK, NBC, CBC, ABC, MSNBC, a bunch of newspapers and radio programs reported on this too. Are they all not credible or is it your proven liar, fake SEAL and phony wrestler that is unreliable?
@mrjosephyoung : Someone did try to call the bar but the bar had been smeared with SUPERTHERMITE PAINT! AND THERE WERE UFOs..WHY DO YOU BELIEVE YOUR GOVERNMENT!! GULF OF TONKIN!! I WAS A NAVY SEAL AND A NUCLEAR ENGINEERRR!!
Sucker Punching a fellow veteran and immediately fleeing the scene before anyone can confirm his story. Whether this is true or not it seems dishonorable at best.
@mrwhiterain69 Ventura is barely a veteran and when you declare that SEALs deserve to be killed you lose all access to the claim of being a Sailor in my book. And no, he wasn't "sucker punched". He was running his big fat mouth at the reception for the funeral of a medal of honor recipient and he deserved to have his big fat mouth punched for it.
@DecendKnightsofmalta It happened, there are witnesses. It's been known around the USN for years that Ventura got booted out of that bar and he has said similar stuff before.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI not until the witnesses themselves come out on tv in person to confirm this, rather then fox news telling the world that his right reeeeeeal credible
@Madman1314 Eyewitnesses have come out and confirm Chris Kyles side of the story. These are active duty SEALs, they don't have time to hold your hand and show you the obvious. Regardless, Ventura hasn't said anything since witnesses came forward.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI they haven't come forward, I haven't seen them or have read them in articles in person say they had, The only person who seems to have said that they have come out is Bill O'Reilly and everyone who isn't Right Wing knows he's a propaganda machine
@Madman1314 Eeer, no, they have come forward. watch?v=i2TdoAJ3wzg
Bury your head in your ass if you wish, but it's pretty much just you and the rest of the merry band of paranoiacs that still believe anything Ventura says.
@Madman1314 Once again, THEY HAVE COME FORWARD. Christ you troofers are fucking stupid.
watch?v=i2TdoAJ3wzg
3 SEALs say it happened, one proven liar says otherwise and Ventura HASN'T SAID A WORD since the witnesses came forward. For once in his life Ventura has shut the fuck up. Follow his example.
@xxbobdeexx Still not your friend and no, Ventura told a SEAL at a funeral reception for another SEAL who was killed (A medal of honor recipient) in Iraq that that they deserved to have more SEALs killed. He has said similar things in the past. There are witnesses to him saying this and it has been all over the Navy community that he got booted out of McP's for years.
No, asshole, I would never say such a thing. Ventura did.
@mydozer Chris Kyle is a national hero. He was shot twice, he was caught in IED attacks 6 times yet he kept going back to Iraq over and over. He is donating money from the proceeds of his book, which is on the NY Times best seller list to the family members of fallen SEALs. He also has witnesses to what happened that confirm his story.
Jesse ventura is a proven liar and a national disgrace.
this people are si ckhave sold out big time.theyhave now become satans tool.they all devil
the media has become the tool of the devil,and the biggest covenant is at fox news,they thrive on bad news.all who work for fox news have sold there souls,what they dont realise is there just pawns in the game too,to be used and discarded so laugh on.we will see who has the last laugh when judgement day comes.
every day i feel like i am slipping further into some weird reality where everything is fake. The power of manipulation is alive and well due to politics and money.
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI No, Just waking up. The more informed I become, the more sad reality is. The elite folks in charge want us to keep up with the Kardashians. Americans are the most uniformed and manipulated when it comes to politics and world affairs. Sad..
@june1683 actually get to know the guy before you talk shit. he has been hunting and out to my ranch many times and i knew about this before it was on the news. You do realize Chris has a $20,000 reward put on his head by the insurgents.
to the jesseventurawasnotaseal guy,change your name dumbass he was a seal thats a fact,not only are you full of shit but your online name is a lie,why should anybody take you serious,
I think i am gonna do a parody , thats a , joke film on ur witless arguments , or maybe u can be the seal punching ventura , then ventura cries ,, cos seals dont fight back , and seals run away , you can do the runnin away ,, which is worse than crying , then when i meet a navy seal , and he wants to kill me ,,, i will tell him ,, these were your version of events , and the proof is here ,,,,,,,LOLOLOLOL
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Thats for JVNS
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@TheJohndoemofo ,,,LOL pbub,,,,lolpppppppublicity stunt ,,,,, nice 1
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I refer to British history , thats the model the U.S constitution bill of rights was meant to stop .
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telly for fully grown children
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BTW we lost our rights 700 years ago , after they took the land , the took our bows , and the right to hunt , basically enslaving us,,,,, if you think thats a lie , or a conspiracy theory , its in black and white ,,,,,,back when a conspiracy might lead to an assasin and a small knife ,,, they didnt have the need to justify their behaviour ,,,,,,,, cos they were tyrants ,,,, see any similarities ,,,,,,,
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@TheLeadpepper I went dove hunting last year in the catch season between Christmas and New Year's. And I'm really eager to start bow fishing. It's not really fishing, it's just shooting carp w/ arrows, but still. What do you mean they took our bows and right to hunt? What are you talking about?
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@Sevenat1blow He's babbling on aimlessly. He's a bit confused.
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@jesseVenturanotaSeaI The man with no reasoning skills ,,,,, hes back ,,,, go on ,,, show us your verbal wit ,,,,,, I shall call you FUTILITY JACK
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@Sevenat1blow . I refer to British history , thats the model the U.S constitution bill of rights was meant to protect US citizens from .
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@Sevenat1blow That sounds like an awesome place to live GL when you go,
TheLeadpepper 1 day ago
@TheLeadpepper Yes, ventura has blamed the USA for 9/11. Yes, he blamed the USA for the Indonesian tsunami. He blames your crooked hierarchy , your own video shows he was denied the chance to show the states is still with its people . America to me is not just a plot of land that can jump behind any ideologie the USA was set up to protect its people , minority rule , minority rule was mussolinis baby , our grandparents stood side by side against ideologies , think ,, they would be shooting us
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
anyone who has strolled onto this ,,,,, plz ,,,, for a laugh ,,,, go onto this man homesight , and look at videos ,,,,,, this is the sum total of his , or her research ,,,,,,,,, TRULY AN EYE OPENER<<<< notice big letters ,, big eyes wide ,,,, and belly splitting
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
How did a British news commentator know about bldg 7 collapsing even before it collapsed. You can see it for yourself on you tube. She is standing in front of a window as she is telling us that bldg 7 had collapsed and what do we see through the window?? Bldg 7 still standing. So come on people tell me HOW DID SHE KNOW THAT BLDG 7 WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE WHEN IT HAD NOT YET DONE SO. WAS SHE PSYCHIC? I am so tired of FOX NERDS. I will be waiting for your dumb answer
Fitzlight62 2 days ago
@rkfool colours , got nothing to do with it , but these mugs r a blight to humanity
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
@klrdotorg bad mouthing the war bad mouthing iraq ,,, r u fukkin stupid ,,, where is the seal attack ,,, any videops ,,,, you fikkin dickwad ,,,,,,,, join the fukkin army ,,, i went for royal marines ,,,, but i had the bollocks and the brains to tell them i was against northern ireland ,,,, go get mum to tighten ur nappy ,,, cos ur shit is spillin everywhere
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
. Jesse has not blamed the States for 9/11 , he has stated that USA is overun with corrupt politicians ,,,,,,,,,, that he does does blame the ground that you walk on ,,,, so the country is in the clear ,,,,,,,,, he does not blame the peolpe ,,, like them he is just an economic passenger , so he you and a dog named sue , are not responsible ,, he blames some of the worms at the top , JVNS , get your facts , he is not blaming you me and the lamp post .
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
@TheLeadpepper Yes, ventura has blamed the USA for 9/11. Yes, he blamed the USA for the Indonesian tsunami.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 days ago
h that sniper is full of shit,cmon jesse wouldent insult any seal especially one who just lost his life with his family sitting right there,do you guys really think ventura would say we needed more seals to die,cmon
bigalpo1988 3 days ago
@bigalpo1988 Have a look at what Ventura thinks about the USA:
watch?v=IIjJTI4tmIY
Of course he would say that, he has blamed the country for 9/11, the indonesian tsunami, called the USA a "terrorist nation". He's a world class asshole.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI watched this ,,,,,,,CONFIRMATION BIAS ,,,,,,,,, go learn
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
dude , alex jones is new to me , i recently found his site , i left amnesty international 5 years ago , looking at Alec Jones , there r ways of his that r different to mine , but the truth at any cost , any cost , is where his kind have my support , if you choose those that the reap the greatest rewards as your intellectual sponsors , then who has the narrowest attention span . Mr Kyle has made his name off ventura , he was another soldier who deserves respect for his effort, wot of the others
TheLeadpepper 3 days ago
@TheLeadpepper I live in Austin. I've seen Alex Jones' million dollar mansion. He's an entertainer making a killing off of people like you, but, truth at any cost as you say.
Sevenat1blow 2 days ago 10
@Sevenat1blow . i love your reply , on the basis that he has a mansion , he should not be believed , he should not be believed if he shows no basis for his argument . And even then he may believe it , but it does not mean i agree with his perspective , but he tells it the way he sees it , and you and me , simeon beings can decide when he goes to far , that is the beauty of a brain that can work with concepts . To take this further do you think that the mainstream media are not laiden in luxury
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
@TheLeadpepper I love your reply, on the basis that it's Fox News it shouldn't be believed...
Alex Jones is a crackpot who appeals to paranoid basket-cases. If he were correct in his proclamations we would all be in FEMA camps after Bush declared martial law. You have a gift for inadvertent irony.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI , Dude it is not my principles running around blowin up humans , that is clearly your double standard , i am a crackpot , you are a narcissistic socially defunct mouthpeice , nice to meet ya
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
@TheLeadpepper I never blew up anyone who didn't need it.
Yes, you are a crack pot. Following David Ickle who believes in reptilian shape shifters, or Alex Jones, who is a lying sack of crap, believing in the existence of imaginary foes that want to subjugate you and space aliens. ~Crackpot~ 100%
Amazingly enough, you have found a way to make all of that boring. Normally people who believe in UFO's and such are a hoot, paranoiacs can be hilarious, but you are just tedious.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI i do not believe reptilians in charge , cmon you r grabbing at straws , r u able to watch something , not believe it , and still watch ,
You are number what , can somebody save the world from questions , i want to eat cereal safe in knowing that it is simple and easy and i dont have to think or question , coherent facts dont count , science dont count , i just want to be right and nobody argue with me ....sorry jesseVenturanotaSeaI it dont work like that ,
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI fox news are notorious for muted news , it cannot be called news , this like saying that playboy is equal to darwinism in its understanding of events , where are the mainstream offering ventura the chance to answer , he is sueing , but ur patsy has made his name already , so he will not care either , his snout is in the trough and your support will be ?????? keep up this prop for long enuff and he may share his fortune with you
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
@TheLeadpepper You do realize it's 7am, UK time, which would mean that you spent the entire night flooding me with barely coherent advocacy of bullshit.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 days ago
@TheLeadpepper Listen you non-infantry-non-jumping-asshole, Alex Jones is just an entertainer. If he believed 10% of what he spewed he wouldn't have a huge mansion, he'd be storing his money, stashing his assets, setting up his family somewhere safe, and so on. It's not that "He has mansion, therefore he can't be believed." It's that "he has a mansion, therefore he's not afraid of imminent social collapse." Don't defend him, you sound silly. Go join the Army, it'll do you well.
Sevenat1blow 2 days ago 7
@Sevenat1blow you still aint answered any questions ,,, ur just like a parrot ,,, come smartarse ,,, where is your research ,,,,, a little less bollocks and a little more brains ,,,,,, i got both ,,,, wot about you ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,waiting
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
@Sevenat1blow LOL, Thank you.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 days ago
I find his story to be bullshit, If it happened in 2006 why did it take 6 years to come out? And Faux news just so happens to be the ones to break the story... again i smell bullshit
HotjohnnyNemonic 3 days ago 2
@HotjohnnyNemonic YEAH man , its like a fog eminating from jesseVenturanotaSeaI
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
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who the fuck are these muppets american journalism is show business ,laughable.
leeus20007 5 days ago
Why is that failed porn big mouther in the intro dancing on the screen?
Anothercoilgun 5 days ago
@ jessventuranotaseal you are a fake.. jesse is the man show ur self come to my town and ill show u what a real navy seal is navy seals dont punch and run like cowerd expecially if theres cops around they would never hit and run like pussies plus its a fuckin felony for a navy seal to hit another person derrrr stupid fucks i bet all u trolls and you all need a life show ur self whats ur real name maby il say i punchd you and ran like that cowered chris kyle
joseb009 6 days ago 2
@joseb009 So you are a SEAL now. Where is this town of yours?
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 6 days ago
this guy is a loser i hope we can speak our mind without being punched out
TheJoseph066 6 days ago
@TheJoseph066 If you are wishing Sailors dead at the funeral reception for a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient then you deserve to lose some teeth.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 6 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI , They would , but if they did not , what is answer for those that setup others , you are easily drawn into nonsense, if someone breaks your window, and the next day a glazier seems to be knocking for work , you might ask who broke your window , mr kyle is the glazier .
TheLeadpepper 3 days ago
@TheLeadpepper You are getting your news from Alex Jones and you tell me that I am "easily drawn into nonsense"?
Mr.Kyle is a proven hero. He is donating the profits of his book to the families of dead SEALs. Ventura is a proven liar.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI i could not agree more , on this you are absolutely right .
TheLeadpepper 2 days ago
you know,i could care less who is telling the truth.What stuck out to me,was whn he said,to deal with a 911 truther you just say"how do i know your not behind 911.Really fucked up tht fox is now trying to put in peoples heads tht if someone questions 911 their now behind it.WOW...Really WOW.
bjh4th 1 week ago
@bjh4th 9/11 truthers are idiots and ought to be treated accordingly.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 week ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI So your saying im behind 9/11,cause i just got back from a tour in iraq defending the good ol USA,and i got to say im A LITTLE indifferent about wht is being told on the subject.
bjh4th 6 days ago
@bjh4th Yeah... I don't believe you.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 6 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI But u believe wht fox news tells u.Fact is,we will probly never know who is telling the real truth.I tend to lean more on logic.This happened in 2006 whn ventura wasnt making as big of an impact in the crazy wacky world of conspiracy,also tht ventura promotes ron paul(i think),and tht he believes in free speech,and questioning the goverment tht serves US the PEOPLE.Just seems convenient tht this story happens now.
bjh4th 5 days ago
@bjh4th
He was mocking truthers because they deserve to be mocked. He was pointing out that accusing truthers of being behind 9/11 makes about as much sense as the claims that truthers make. Sorry you're not bright enough to get that.
klrdotorg 6 days ago
@klrdotorgIm not here to argu with children.I guess u didnt read my comment right.Anyway,something seems odd about the timing of this accusation.Why wait so long to bring it out in the open.This chris probly has a reason,but i have a job and fortunatly dont have time to study up on this to make a conclusion backed by real evidence.Neither of these two should be believed untill you all do your own research,which you may have.Q. is,whts so wrong with asking Q no matter wht it is about.
bjh4th 5 days ago
@bjh4th
Anyone can ask questions. Just stop asking them when you know they've been answered. Jesse regularly accuses people of not researching 9/11. The truth is - that "truthers" are the worst researchers on the topic. They ignore the real evidence - and stay on their padded truther sites - so they won't see the facts. It's willful ignorance.
And I did understand your moronic post. He wasn't accusing truthers of guilt for 9/11 - because he knows Islamic terrorists attacked us.
klrdotorg 5 days ago
@klrdotorg You seem to have it all figured out.Do your history homework and u will see goverment has lied and killed more people thn any other organization on the planet.You really do need to get out more,stop posting videos and go make your own videos to push your ideas.Go to these countrys and acctually talk to their people and see their culture thn maybe you wonte hate islamic faith so much,unless thths how you roll.Thn again children cant be out whn the street lights are on.
bjh4th 5 days ago
@bjh4th did your parents ever lie to you? Does that mean that nothing they say can be believed ever again?
If that's the case do you know that Ventura has lied? Provably? Read my page, he was not a SEAL and was never in combat.
Islam attacked the USA on 9/11/01. They have been attacking the Kuffar for 1400 years.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 5 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Yes my parents have lied to me,ALOT,but,,,,,BUT it was always about shit they did wrong and didnt want me to know.Never on trivial matters.
And like i said.I dont care who is telling the truth out these two pushers of their own agenda.Jesse pushes his shit,and this chris is pushing his.(no pun intended).So i really dont believe neither.
And the islam thing.Im pretty sure every other religion of the world has killed in the name of their god.
bjh4th 5 days ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Yes my parents have lied to me,ALOT,but,,,,,BUT it was always about shit they did wrong and didnt want me to know.Never on trivial matters.
And like i said.I dont care who is telling the truth out these two pushers of their own agenda.Jesse pushes his shit,and this chris is pushing his.(no pun intended).So i really dont believe neither.
And the islam thing.Im pretty sure every other religion of the world has killed in the name of their god.
bjh4th 5 days ago
@bjh4th Whelp,You are invited to believe what you will. I'm coming down on the side of Kyle.
Islam is unique in that it instructs it's followers to attack and wage war against people who aren't muslims. Lots of atrocities have been committed in the name of religion, but usually they are committed against the teachings of that religion. That isn't the case in islam.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 5 days ago
who the fuck hired this white peace of trash talkin shit i bet shes one of those bitches that would get jumped after school or after work like if she was there to know for a fact that it was a true thing that happen
joseb009 1 week ago
@joseb009 Unga-bunga to you too.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 week ago
@joseb009 You are a moron.
1974guzzi 6 days ago
@joseb009
Nice babble. Do you expect normal people to know what the fuck you're talking about?
klrdotorg 6 days ago
holy shit does Fox News piss me off... to anybody that actually thinks they're not being brainwashed when they watch that piece of shit channel, watch the documentary "Out Foxed". It features interviews with the first team of Fox News reporters from the 80's and 90's, as they speak out about how they were threatened with termination if they didn't report knowingly false propaganda sent down the ladder via daily memos; it's eye opening and will make you think twice about what you see on TV...
wogfun 1 week ago
@poeticpagesmig16 How's this for short?
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 week ago
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poeticpagesmig16 1 week ago
@poeticpagesmig16 Yeah, they are declaring war on the word and setting up death camps ... oh wait, no, you just disagree with something they said so you used your entire imagination and called them Nazis. I would return the favor and call that Stalinist but you would probably take that as a complement.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 week ago
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poeticpagesmig16 1 week ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI if lots of people did hear about it y didn't fox ,they get everything accurate 'sarcasm' plus i said anyone that signs up for these jobs is not a hero i'm a 1st gulf war vet and we despise being called heros just like my father and uncles that were in ww2 so get off of your high horse douchebag and shut yer yap
MoonajuanaHarvest 1 week ago
@boltonblows
Poor elderly Jesse. Fuck him and you. The people Kyle shot weren't innocent. And when you're a sniper - that's what you do. He was one of the best. Glad he was there protecting his fellow soldiers - killing bad guys. You don't like it? Too fucking bad.
Shake your fist at your computer monitor. I'm sure Kyle is really sweating what you think of him. Hope you're mad as hell ... cuz nobody cares what you think. You're not important, Kyle is.
:)
klrdotorg 1 week ago
how about the mourning families of all of the brown people Krissie Kyle assassinated in their home county? u don't give a shit because it's not your family and you're not brown, you disgusting neocon
boltonblows 1 week ago
@boltonblows Please, go find someone who gives a shit about your intellectually inverted moral preening. You are boring.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 week ago
So a hero navy seal sucker punched an old man and then ran off? Kyle, you are murdering scum bag. Burn in hell, bitch.
boltonblows 1 week ago
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Clinestwood 2 weeks ago
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So you are telling me that a Legendary Navy Seal runs from police but faces real life threatening dangers on a constant basis? Where this really confuses me is that this whole thing took place in a Seal bar during a wake for a fellow Seal and the best that this guy can come up with is TWO witnesses? Where are the other witnesses? I mean surely the place had to of been packed with both a wake for a fallen family member as well as Jesse Ventura being in the same bar.
MasterKaner 2 weeks ago
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MasterKaner 2 weeks ago
Chris Kyle was selling a book at the time he claimed this happened.
jblackrupert 2 weeks ago
@jblackrupert Ventura got smacked in 2006, kyle wrote the book years later.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI
Thats what I said.
There was no punch story going around until the book and tour surrounding it.
He's just another moron who makes shit up or takes a non-event and blows it up to sell a book.
jblackrupert 2 weeks ago
@jblackrupert Yes there was a punch story going around. It was common knowledge that Ventura was running his mouth at McP's.
Chris Kyle was shot twice, blown up 6 times and did 4 yours in Iraq. FOUR. TOURS. IN. IRAQ. He enabled hundreds of Americans and coalition troops to return home. The man is a genuine hero and has no reason to lie. He also has witnesses.
Ventura has been caught lying so many times... anyone who believes a word he says at this point has a real problem with reality.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
@jblackrupert Kyle is not a moron. But he does have reason to exaggerate a bit, book sales.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327
If he's talking about this story to increase book sales -- then link me to one video -- where he talks about this story without being directly asked about it.
klrdotorg 2 weeks ago
@klrdotorg The story is in the book. And it's already out on Fox and the radio show, so naturally he's going to be asked about it.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327
The story in the book doesn't mention Jesse's name. There have been interviews where this topic was not discussed. Kyle hasn't volunteered the info - he's only talked about it - when specifically asked.
klrdotorg 2 weeks ago 2
@klrdotorg What's the difference? If someone asks him, or if he says it, the story comes out. If your point is Kyle is a good guy, I agree. But there is money and politics involved either way. That's motivation enough for the story to come out.
It doesn't prove the story wrong, but there's no proof it's true. I can say I punched Jesse Ventura too because he said he hates African Americans. Now Ventura has to deny it. It's b.s.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327
These are high profile claims. He was asked, and he answered the questions. If he's willfully lying, he could lose a lot of money. More money than whatever the "bump" in sales - that this story propelled.
Jesse has the means, and the history of suing people. If this was a lie, Jesse would sue him. Everyone knows this - including Kyle and his publishers. That's why I'm convinced it's true. That, as well as Jesse's past comments, and the witnesses who've backed the story.
klrdotorg 2 weeks ago
@klrdotorg People lose money when it's found out they lie? I think you have no experience with the U.S. media.
If Ventura is so full of B.S. then why is he so famous and wealthy? He lies. He's not hurting.
Ventura could sue him if this is a lie?
If this is the TRUTH, Ventura could put him in JAIL.
What witnesses? Show me their direct statements in a news story, not O'Rielly saying their names.
Show me an independent witness.
I like Kyle. Doesn't mean his story is true.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327
Not suing for lying. I said he could sue Kyle for libel.
I don't think he could put Kyle in jail. Check the statute of limitations.
And yes, you should never trust a terrain analyst. Always check the mountain with your eyes. Thanks for the lesson.
The threat of a lawsuit out-weighs (in my mind) whatever the bump in sales "may" have been. That's just common sense to me. Guess it doesn't mean anything to you? Oh well. You don't trust the witnesses? Oh well.
klrdotorg 2 weeks ago
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@klrdotorg "Check the statute of limitations" He could have gone to jail at the time. Good thing he ran then if it's true.
"The threat of a lawsuit out-weighs (in my mind) whatever the bump in sales "may" have been." He's in no danger of a lawsuit. Look at the Flynt v. Falwell case.
"You don't trust the witnesses? Oh well."
Trust has nothing to do with it. There are no STATEMENTS from the witnesses.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327 No one has challenged them. Witnesses came forward, gave their names. Ventura/Alex Jones haven't said anything. (What the hell does that tell you)
1) Kyle says it happened.
2) Ventura says it didn't, demands retractions and threatens to sue Chris Kyle &fox News.
3) Chris kyle says he has witnesses. Fox laughs at him, no retraction.
So now he can challenge the witnesses or sue for a retraction.
Ventura has said absolutely nothing. Not a peep. No lawsuit.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
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@jesseVenturanotaSeaI "demands retractions and threatens to sue Chris Kyle &fox News" and Fox changed their story didn't they? It's not "this happened" anymore it's "we think this happened."
"So now he can challenge the witnesses"
Really? Show me what he can challenge. I don't see any statements from them. I see and hear O'Reilly saying their names. Nothing else.
Of course, if you all trust O'Reilly, oh well.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@klrdotorg And look at Alex Jones. That guy is really FOS. He makes a good living though.
Only evidence convinces me something is true.
If the best terrain analyst in the world gives me a grid coordinate that has a mountain on it, and I'm standing there and I don't see a mountain, which do I believe? The reality or the map?
The best terrain analyst is still the best. And he wants to give me an accurate picture.
That doesn't mean the mountain is there.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
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@klrdotorg He's a shill here tinyurl (dot) com/74srbno and here tinyurl (dot) com/88spp7n
He wears the "Fitco" shirt and THE SAME HAT every time he's on t.v.. Tell me he's not selling something again.
People's minds tend to follow their wallets no matter how good a person they are.
Not to support Ventura who is a super-shill who trades on his military service all the time.
But it makes it all the worse if Kyle is a good guy being herded into this crap by the media and salesmen.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
Chris Kyle has two witnesses. Jessie was UDT and not a SEAL. Jessie is obviously embarrassed and his threats to charge Chris Kyle says he was in-fact punched.
ssacehole 2 weeks ago 10
@ssacehole
2 Witnesses at an event with dozens of people there. Interesting
and nobody made a peep about this until he's selling a book.
jblackrupert 2 weeks ago
@ssacehole "Jessie was UDT and not a SEAL"
Is that why when O'Rielly asks him if Ventura is or was a SEAL he says "Yes, sir"?
I don't know anything about that myself. But Kyle agrees with O'Rielly when he talks about Ventura being a SEAL.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327 Maybe he doesn't know. You and I had this out months before, I think at the end you acknowledged there was a difference between the IDT and the SEALs when Ventura was in the UDT, No?
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI No. Not caring and ceding a point are two different things.My point was saying that UDTers were pieces of shit compared to SEALs because Ventura was "only" UDT denigrates not only UDTers service, but all servicemembers. Regardless of what Ventura was, was, whatever. He could have an MOH for all I care. Doesn't mean what he says is true because of it. Those things rest on their own merits.
Same deal here. Kyle is well decorated. Doesn't mean this story is gospel or not.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327 Doesn't it denigrate the UDT Frogmen to disassociate yourself with the and claim to be something you weren't? The Guys who blew tup the obstacles at Tarawa were proud to call themselves frogmen.
If someone has a pattern of lying aren't you less apt to believe them?
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Sure. None of that proves Kyle's claim tho'
If Kyle says he punched me in the face at McP's, I can't disprove it. But it's not my job to. It's his job to prove what he says is true.
The funeral and BUD/S class 258 graduation would be some time apart. So maybe Kyle got that wrong. None of this means Kyle is lying. Just that the facts, so far, show something else.
You can "believe" what want. Or state opinion. Saying we "know" is something else.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@mdarius327
Jesse has no problem suing people. He just tried to sue the TSA. If this thing never happened - then what Kyle is saying is a slander to Jesse's character. Surely Jesse will sue him for libel ... right?
Unless Jesse knows more witnesses will come forward to back Kyle's strory. Bet ya Jesse never sues or gets a dime from Kyle.
klrdotorg 2 weeks ago
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@jesseVenturanotaSeaI as I posted in the other thread: BUD/S Class 258 was already in 2nd phase in January 06.
BUD/S is 24 weeks. Monsoor was KIA September 29 06.
Do the math.
On Oct. 11 2006 Ventura was in Texas campaigning with Kinky Friedman. The funeral was a day later. Either he was at McP's before that for 258, went to Texas for the Jewish cowboy and came back one day after or he wasn't there for 258.
Google, public figures, tour schedules.Simple research. I'm done running this down tho.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI And maybe he doesn't know. Maybe he does. It only seems convenient to point out when associating it with some point about Ventura. I believe things because of evidence, not because of someone's background.
Ventura says the government lies. True, generally. But without solid evidence for a specific event it's meaningless. I should shoot a cop that pulls me over for speeding because of JFK? The mailman is out to get me after 9/11?
You can only extend analogy so far.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI In fairness, Ventura and Alex Jones pull that kind of extended analogy crap all the time, so maybe it's karma on this. Maybe that's ok in general. Doesn't make any specific thing conclusive either way, without evidence.
mdarius327 2 weeks ago
@ssacehole Ventura is taking him to court and a court isn't going to listen to anonymous witnesses.
jimmi161 1 week ago
@jimmi161 Should be fun to watch.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 week ago
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Ex Gov Ventura said that during his time in the Navy they were called Frog Men and it became SEALs later. Ex Gov Ventura uses the term SEALs generically because it's the current term for the position he and everyone else identifies with, and he's explained this technicality before. However, critics of Gov Ventura pick over that technicality to discredit him saying he wasn't really a SEAL. It's like arguing over an ex airline stewardess now calling herself an ex flight attendant.
captainahnee 1 week ago
Jesus no wonder why people aren't watching cable news anymore
ScoobyDigites 2 weeks ago
HAARP is real be very afraid, look what it did to Jesse's hair
Spindry96 2 weeks ago 5
ha ha posted it anyway dumasses.
beastshawnee 2 weeks ago
Fools Chris Kyle's witnesses are liars too, the owner of the bar said it never happened and who can keep a secret for 6 years?
MetalHeadKLR650 3 weeks ago
@MetalHeadKLR650
SEALs and some soldiers keep secrets for years - all the time. Just because you don't understand the class and character that takes - doesn't make it a lie. The only reason you think it's a lie - is cuz it exposes your conspiratard hero - Jesse V - as the true asshole he is.
klrdotorg 3 weeks ago
@klrdotorg I stopped keeping secrets when I became an adult. Funny how nothing the "conspiretard" had on his shows hasn't been disproven. Admit it, your just scared because it's a truth, you can't see beyond your TV set and Sunday night football.
MetalHeadKLR650 2 weeks ago
@MetalHeadKL650 Nothing he's said has been disproven? Yeah, that's why George Bush declared marshall law, is sill in power and we're all in FEMA camps. Get out of the basement and get some fresh air.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI Bush can't run 3 terms, they are organizations training to militarize the police to combat "civil unrest" who the fuck do you think that is? US.
MetalHeadKLR650 2 weeks ago
@MetalHeadKLR650
"your just scared because it's a truth" Hunh?
Like the 9.0 Earthquake that caused the Indonesian Tsunami? That Jesse said never happened? Do a little investigating ... it happened. But Jesse has a hard-on for HAARP. So in his feeble little brain, that earthquake never happened -- so Jesse could blame the tsunami on HAARP.
But, when it's convenient, HAARP can cause earthquakes. Like Jesse's claim that HAARP caused the Haitian earthquake. See how that works?
klrdotorg 2 weeks ago
@klrdotorg Even if he blamed HAARP he didn't deny that the earthquake happened.
MetalHeadKLR650 2 weeks ago
@MetalHeadKLR650 So that makes it OK to blame HAARP and the USA for killing hundreds of thousands of indonesians? (When we had relief flights giving out food and water to them)
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
@MetalHeadKLR650
Oh ... he said it. Saw it on a YouTube video with some Serius radio show host. He specifically said the earthquake didn't happen. It was HAARP. How does he know this? Because someone claims to have seen the Northern Lights in the South Pacific. You believe him? He said it.
klrdotorg 2 weeks ago
@MetalHeadKLR650 The owner of the bar did NOT say it never happened. He stated that he was unaware of it which isn't surprising since it happened in the indoor/outdoor portion of the bar.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI I've seen no report of anyone claiming it was in any specific area of the bar. Nice name, hate much? Too bad the Navy SEALS say Jesse is a SEAL, you could have made an even more retarded and untrue name.
MetalHeadKLR650 2 weeks ago
@MetalHeadKLR650 Read the book. Where do the SEALs say that he was a SEAL? Yeah... they don't.
Have a look at my channel. Read down the left hand side of the page. He wasn't a SEAL, he's a liar.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 2 weeks ago
Jesse is a big dick and needs to leave this country... would suit him well
TheZero4life 3 weeks ago
l want a Seal T Shirt too, iv'e never been a Seal but if Jesse can wear one..
Spindry96 3 weeks ago
Jesse is a moron.
Mattysvids21 3 weeks ago
This could be cleared up fairly quickly. Has anyone called the bar and speak to the owner about the incident? If a former professional wrestler and governor was decked in his bar with one punch he surely would have known about it.
mrjosephyoung 3 weeks ago
@mrjosephyoung The bar owner says he doesn't know anything about it. Evidentially they have gotten tons of phone calls from UFO chasing, basement dwelling, hot-pocket eating, Alex Jones worshiping, time wasting, perpetual virgin, clinical paranoiacs who want to waste their lives.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI this whole story is just a joke and another story that tarnishes fox news credebility.
frankydoodytoo 3 weeks ago
@frankydoodytoo OK, NBC, CBC, ABC, MSNBC, a bunch of newspapers and radio programs reported on this too. Are they all not credible or is it your proven liar, fake SEAL and phony wrestler that is unreliable?
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@frankydoodytoo No it's not a joke, it really did happen.and many other people reported it other then Fox.
Dogmeat1950 3 weeks ago 2
@mrjosephyoung : Someone did try to call the bar but the bar had been smeared with SUPERTHERMITE PAINT! AND THERE WERE UFOs..WHY DO YOU BELIEVE YOUR GOVERNMENT!! GULF OF TONKIN!! I WAS A NAVY SEAL AND A NUCLEAR ENGINEERRR!!
sameer137 3 weeks ago
Sucker Punching a fellow veteran and immediately fleeing the scene before anyone can confirm his story. Whether this is true or not it seems dishonorable at best.
mrwhiterain69 4 weeks ago
@mrwhiterain69 Ventura is barely a veteran and when you declare that SEALs deserve to be killed you lose all access to the claim of being a Sailor in my book. And no, he wasn't "sucker punched". He was running his big fat mouth at the reception for the funeral of a medal of honor recipient and he deserved to have his big fat mouth punched for it.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 4 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI you realize this never happened right?
DecendKnightsofmalta 4 weeks ago
@DecendKnightsofmalta It happened, there are witnesses. It's been known around the USN for years that Ventura got booted out of that bar and he has said similar stuff before.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 4 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI alright if there are witnesses, why haven't they spoken up about it in defense of Chris Kyle
Madman1314 3 weeks ago
@Madman1314 They have spoken up for Chris Kyle. watch?v=i2TdoAJ3wzg
These are active duty SEALs, they don't have time for bedwetting troofers.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI not until the witnesses themselves come out on tv in person to confirm this, rather then fox news telling the world that his right reeeeeeal credible
Madman1314 3 weeks ago
@Madman1314 Eyewitnesses have come out and confirm Chris Kyles side of the story. These are active duty SEALs, they don't have time to hold your hand and show you the obvious. Regardless, Ventura hasn't said anything since witnesses came forward.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI they haven't come forward, I haven't seen them or have read them in articles in person say they had, The only person who seems to have said that they have come out is Bill O'Reilly and everyone who isn't Right Wing knows he's a propaganda machine
Madman1314 3 weeks ago
@Madman1314 Eeer, no, they have come forward. watch?v=i2TdoAJ3wzg
Bury your head in your ass if you wish, but it's pretty much just you and the rest of the merry band of paranoiacs that still believe anything Ventura says.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI once again no one is confirmed not until they say it themselves! Not through Fox news, im going to stop feeding you now troll
Madman1314 3 weeks ago
@Madman1314 Once again, THEY HAVE COME FORWARD. Christ you troofers are fucking stupid.
watch?v=i2TdoAJ3wzg
3 SEALs say it happened, one proven liar says otherwise and Ventura HASN'T SAID A WORD since the witnesses came forward. For once in his life Ventura has shut the fuck up. Follow his example.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI I can make up names to you know, it is a very common skill in the world
Madman1314 3 weeks ago
@Madman1314 Google it. It traces back to a real person with a real life. You are just believing whatever you want to believe. Typical troofer.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI "SEALs deserve to be killed"..who said this? Let me answer..you said it..you talk shit my friend.
xxbobdeexx 4 weeks ago
@xxbobdeexx Still not your friend and no, Ventura told a SEAL at a funeral reception for another SEAL who was killed (A medal of honor recipient) in Iraq that that they deserved to have more SEALs killed. He has said similar things in the past. There are witnesses to him saying this and it has been all over the Navy community that he got booted out of McP's for years.
No, asshole, I would never say such a thing. Ventura did.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 3 weeks ago
Chris Kyle is a liar! They all should be ashamed of themselves.
mydozer 4 weeks ago
@mydozer Chris Kyle is a national hero. He was shot twice, he was caught in IED attacks 6 times yet he kept going back to Iraq over and over. He is donating money from the proceeds of his book, which is on the NY Times best seller list to the family members of fallen SEALs. He also has witnesses to what happened that confirm his story.
Jesse ventura is a proven liar and a national disgrace.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 4 weeks ago
You seem to be an analyist.What is your opinion on the media and fox news?You seem to take pleasure in critism.GET A LIFE.
MrCarlton58 4 weeks ago
this people are si ckhave sold out big time.theyhave now become satans tool.they all devil
the media has become the tool of the devil,and the biggest covenant is at fox news,they thrive on bad news.all who work for fox news have sold there souls,what they dont realise is there just pawns in the game too,to be used and discarded so laugh on.we will see who has the last laugh when judgement day comes.
MrCarlton58 4 weeks ago
@MrCarlton58 Thanks for the psycobabbel.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 4 weeks ago
The epitome of sick & pathologically twisted, glorifying war and violence despite the treachery and fraud that perpetuates it.
starmanskye 4 weeks ago
Fox News: Leading the herd away from rational thinking... one sheep at a time.
I love how this guy says conspiracy theorist just ASK QUESTIONS... gee... maybe because there's no fucking answers smart ass!
Thanks for posting! :)
corbettclub1 4 weeks ago
every day i feel like i am slipping further into some weird reality where everything is fake. The power of manipulation is alive and well due to politics and money.
werdnanivrag 1 month ago
@werdnanivrag It's called "losing your mind". Get help.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 4 weeks ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI No, Just waking up. The more informed I become, the more sad reality is. The elite folks in charge want us to keep up with the Kardashians. Americans are the most uniformed and manipulated when it comes to politics and world affairs. Sad..
werdnanivrag 4 weeks ago
@june1683 actually get to know the guy before you talk shit. he has been hunting and out to my ranch many times and i knew about this before it was on the news. You do realize Chris has a $20,000 reward put on his head by the insurgents.
texas9ish 1 month ago 5
Wow and this Kyle guy is praised for being "the deadliest seal"? Does that bother anyone else?
prettyisraelite1 1 month ago
@prettyisraelite1 Not even a little.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 month ago
@jesseVenturanotaSeaI team america f yeah, a hu hu hu.
werdnanivrag 1 month ago
@prettyisraelite1: Yes, it bothers me.
NoGodsNoOverlords 4 weeks ago
@NoGodsNoOverlords It shouldn't.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 4 weeks ago
to the jesseventurawasnotaseal guy,change your name dumbass he was a seal thats a fact,not only are you full of shit but your online name is a lie,why should anybody take you serious,
MrTruthwillsetusfree 1 month ago
@MrTruthwillsetusfree So is he lying when he says he wasn't a SEAL?
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 month ago
@june1683 Chris Kyle has witnesses that back his story. Ventura is a proven liar.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 1 month ago