Why does every body speaks of fuck'n'coal ?? electricity comes from coal. .. ? maybe in the stupid usa but here in quebec it comes from DAMS and we sell it in the damn usa too... No stinking coal. And anyway it's has absolutly no point what-so-ever for this video.
The real question is How much this marvel will cost ? and do they sell a special plug or adapters to plug it at your house ...jeez there's still alot to do to get it ready.
:) cool little car, might not quite be as good as petrol engines but oil won't last and it's early days, they will only get better in years to come. Most people i know own two cars, buy this as ya local run around school runs ect and ya normal car for more far a field driving.
I went to the alt car expo this past weekend and shot a few videos of this car as well as took the Guided tour from the caffeinated super charged guide. One of my favorite weird things about this car is the Audio of an engine below 18 mph.
I had an idea today that may be useless but it's an idea. Why not put a wind turbine(s?) on the car help charge the car a bit while you are driving? Plus if you ad solar cells you could a little more power? Just an idea...
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But electricity comes from coal no?
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The power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,solar.hydro,ect..
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it
@acenace24 I usually dont spend my time answering stupid affirmations like yours, but i will make this exepction as i have a spare minutes.
The only idiot here is you, there a dozen obvious reasons why hydrogen cars wouldn't work nowadays, a obvious but crucial one is that there is not a infrastructure ready for them, like we already do for petrol station and electric grids, that would coast millions for a single hydrogen station. Go study you idiot, stop bullshiting over the internet..
@gisellemartins20 hydrogen car may not have the infrastructure like petrol station and other source of energy but keep in mind that its one of the option of many that we're wiling to take in the future.
@gisellemartins20 As far as I've understood, it's also extremely difficult to collect hydrogen into a smaller mass (volume) in order to make accessible/transportable for mass consumption. IOTW, hydrogen has to be compressed heavily and that is perhaps more of a hindrance than changing the infrastructure of regular patrol stations to hydrogen stations.
And just where the hell does your hydrogen come from, water? Ha! And just how did you convert that water to hydrogen? Using a/any process that requires....ENERGY! Ta-da, you're an idiot.
@gisellemartins20 this car is bank account crushing to run. The batteries cost a fortune and need to be replaced cos batteries degrade fast soon enough which will cost thousands. The car costs almost twice as much as a similar petrol car by the time you do have to replace ALL the batteries which you WILL have to do the car would be almost worthless anyway and the repear would cost more than the car.
In short the car needs to be scrapped when the batteries wear out in about 5 years.
Rich countries wont buy this, the need for cheap electric cars and bikes is more in China and India becoz we want to save money not the environment and we dont think our manhood will be judged by the car we drive. You are what you hide, your not what you say you are mostly. Either way i think the Reva NXG will be more affordable.
Rather sell a car that's said to achieve 70 miles yet gets 100 miles than sell a car to get 100 miles yet gets only 70 miles. The good thing about the Nissan Leaf is that it's a pure Battery elec. vehicle. It offers 1/2 hour rapid charging. $.02 cents/mile $3.25 to Fully Charge, 150 miles per gallon. That's 5X's the MPG of a regular gasoline car.
electric cars arent zero emmisions though are they. how do they think electricity is made?! they've only moved the process of burning the fossil fuels further up the line
@bobjackson85 Actually, most coal power plants are more efficient than a gasoline engine. Then you take into account that oil must be drilled, transported, refined, transported again, and then burned in your car, and you get a lot fewer emissions, even if the electric car runs exclusively on coal-fired electricity. Even so, they are not truly zero emissions unless all the electricity they use comes from clean sources. Imagine if everyone installed just one small wind turbine in their backyards..
If Coal Power plants are more efficient than Gasoline engines, why aren't we running our cars on a Coal Power plant then?? This is the kinda balogny talk that gets people confused. Earth has been destroyed by Mining Coal. If you look at the surface of other planets (moons also), you can see the Terrain made of some form of design.
As of right now hydrogen fuel is not an energy source, its an energy carrier. To get energy from Hydrogen you must use FOSSIL FUELS. Methane, for example, to release the so called energy. Yes it is a good idea if they can efficiently produce it but I believe that there will be an even better alternative to fueling cars in the future. I'm not saying that electric is the future, however I don't think hydrogen is either. As for gasoline and batteries, It's all about money...
"Next year big burial party of the combustion engine here in Atlanta, GA USA. everyone is invited. it will take place at the Phillip Arena Stadium. It is now illegal to use a gas engine."
Electric cars are not part of the future... What most people dont know when buying these cars is that the battery will need to be replaced in about 6-10 years. The cost to replace the battery is about 8000$.
The future is hydrogen cars. Hydrogen can be produced from electricity at charging stations then it can be cooled or compressed in the cars.
@HonoredAPTD What do you mean. Hydrogen cars cost alot to buy, and hydrogen is hard to store. It is still only about 20% cheaper to buy than petrol. In the USA, the nissan leaf costs 2c per mile to run. The batteries hold their charge 80% for 10 years/100,000 miles. It costs about $25,000, and lasts 10 years which is fine. That isn't much for a car anyway! And electric cars are ideal to use with renewable energy like solar, and they are easier to maintain. Don't spread around "shit" about EV's.
@omendark123 Building a car that lasts 10 years is a waste of ressources. Im talking about hydrogen. A 100% clean and POWERFUL fuel which is can be produced from so many things and which can be stored many ways (liquid, compressed, chemicaly-stored etc.) Hydrogen cars could be filled with fuel as fast as gasoline cars are. Hydrogen combustion is so clean the engines would last ''forever''. Also, where would we dispose of all those batteries filled with nasty chemicals over just a few years?
@HonoredAPTD The batteries are 95% recyclable. They hold their charge 80% after 100,000 miles/10 years. And they can be reused in many ways too. Most of the car is also recyclable too. Hydrogen cars are too expensive, and hydrogen isn't much cheaper than petrol.
@HonoredAPTD I believe that you are right and I would love to see more cars that do use hydrogen. The fact is that you wont find any for 2 reasons and you already said 1.) that the battery needs to be replaced and for that reason car companies can still make money and we all know it is about the money. 2.) The Hindenburg - hydrogen just scares people. Sadly there are probably other reason too. I wish people would see it in your way. Enjoy the future =) Have a good day
@HonoredAPTD Hydrogen and gasoline are competitors with price. If you assume that the average driver pays $40 for gas each week to commute to work and there are 52 weeks in a year then paying for gas should be around $2000, Hydrogen fuel will be the same cost, if not more. If you multiply that by the time you need a new battery, then in ten years you will be paying upwards of $20,000! Unless they come up with a more cost effective way to produce fuel from hydrogen then this is far in the future
The price of hydrogen might be somewhat close to the price of gasoline, but hydrogen will never ''run out'' on Earth and you won't have cartels controlling the price of oil because H2 can be produced anywhere in the world. That being said, hydrogen is a very powerful fuel alike gasoline but unlike the energy stored in batteries. It can be refilled in car very fast, no waiting. Hydrogen cars are most likely to last MUCH longer than EV's with very few maintenance costs.
@HonoredAPTD The future is not Hydrogen for vehicle propulsion for two reasons:
1, Hydrogen is just stored energy like gasoline or batteries however it takes more energy to convert water to hydrogen and then convert it again to kinetic propulsion (electricity) than it does just to store it in a battery.
2, Converting hydrogen into electricity to power a car requires about $80,000 worth of palladium PER CAR which is a heavy metal, unlike LiFePo4 batteries which use recyclable lithium.
@ClownFight And the electricity to charge these deadweight batteries comes from.......let's see--dig the coal.at great fuel use, transport it at...... Ah, the wonderful cycle of Newton's Apple!
@MrDakns Unless of course it's powered by nuclear in which case it could be the 'Atomic' Car. It makes more sense to dig up the local coal or uranium, turn that energy into electrons at a site well away from the population and power cars with it. Tapping into oil in the middle east, storing and shipping to our country, then processing it and distributing it to every car owner is a more complicated process. I don't believe in man-made climate change but I do like electric cars.
@ClownFight You forgot about 1st principle of efficient travel. Since dawn of history there's no such thing as 'range' you can travel. On foot you can walk for most of a day, same case with horses. Fossil fuels are easily 'recharged' - loading coal or fuel is matter of few minutes instead of hour. Wind power is bascily unlimited.
Battery powered cars will make sense when their range won't be issue anymore, which means it will have to be way more than 1000 km.
@fresherty There's no 1st principle of efficient travel, you just made that up. An electric car only needs as much range as it's going to use. I travel 70 km each day to work and back and would charge the car up at night while I sleep just like my iPhone.
Wind power is limited by the wind, that doesn't always blow at full velocity and the $8,000,000 each one costs to build and erect. Caol fired electricity is here right now and it's pumped directly into my garage for 14 cents per kW/hr
@ClownFight Did I? Sure, you do travel exactly 70 km each day. I do travel at least 70 km each day, but in many cases I have to travel more than 200 km a day without previously knowing I will have to. Also, charging up electric car is a bit more tricky than you might think. 1st of all you need a plug. In most cases there arent any near the parking spots. Even if you find one, you will leave the charger laying on the ground for whole night? I wouldn't, even in most safe areas of the world.
@ClownFight There is one more problem with electric car. Especially with Leaf. It's a compact car. Idea is it's small enough for comfortable city use and big enough for long travels. There's no problem with cities - the distances aren't too long, but trip from my city to nearest mountain resort would require either 3 day trip each way, or fast charge stations, which basicly destroy batteries if you use it extesively. Oh, right batteries. Those are tricky as well.
@ClownFight If you use all the charge in Leaf every time or/and use fast charge stations you will have to replace whole battery pack after 2-3 years, for around 10 000 euro or so if i remember correctly. Whole car ain't really cheap either. It costs 31 000 euro, which is 3 times more than Nissan Micra. So what's the point really? You can't go t0o far in it because it has low range, so you can't really benefit from its 'fuel' price reduction... Appart from ecology argument its pointless...
@fresherty I've already put my deposit on the Tesla type S to be delivered in 2013. The battery pack delivers a 250km range and will last 2000-3000 full discharges. That's 500,000 to 750,000km. A lot more than I'll do in 2/3 years. More like 20 to 25 years.
@ClownFight Again, you're missing a point. "Last" means after 2000-3000 discharges it will have less than 50% original capacity. By discharge in most cases they mean "goes down to 50%". Also, battery wears down with time regardless of its usage. Id say with your usage - 70 km/recharge - it will last 3 years... But again, a lot ppl use cars a lot more extensively. Plus, price is just outrageous - for example your Tesla Type-S gets close to M3-money. 0.0
@fresherty I think you are thinking of old battery technology like Nickel Cadmium or every Nickel Metal Hydride. There are many variations of lithium battery technology and the characteristics relating to depth of disharge are very different to NiCad and NiMh. With Lithium Titinate batteries the depth of discharge is 90% and they have no memory effect and will last at least 2000 discharges to 90%. Taiwanese LiFepo4 batteries are guaranteed to last 3000 minimum.
@ClownFight Again, define "last". Regardless of technology battery wear is a problem. Even Li-ion battery (remember that Li-titanate battery is basicly the same technology apart from higher capacity) wear with time. The manufacturer 'guarantees' something, and it might be true... It's the same case with 'guaranteed' MPG of petrol cars. There are factors such as temperature that affect batteries greatly and all the tests are conducted in optimal conditions.
@funnyrandomgenius I think hydrogen is the fuel of the future. Hydrogen can be produced from electricity (alike EV's) but they act like gasoline: it is also highly inflammable. One great thing about thay is that hydrogen cars don't release CO2 or SO2 or any other kind of shit, only water (steam). Hydrogen could be filled as fast as gasoline in cars and the engines running on hydrogen would probably last much longer than ones using gasoline.
@HonoredAPTD very true! but we need to spot fucking around with EVs and work on making plants to turn water into Hydrogen. we then need to make that process more efficient. We can make a similar hydrogen to electricity system as a power plant to power homes.
Fuck electric cars!! i will laugh in the face of people who buy them while i am listening to massive 4.4L V8 Engine in an M3. Only pussies will buy electric cars.
@DStrike0083 Maybe you have nothing to do in your day, but most people are very busy and 30 minutes might still be too long to wait. Hydrogen cars need to come out, hydrogen is a highly flammable and very clean fuel which can be produced from electricity. It could fill cars as fast as gasoline does in conventional cars.
You Tube should change it's name. I want a title for each subject. There are 300 Million people in America. 150 Of whom can use the internet (others use writing pad). Subject Videos are made by Experts that's accurate as possible to our knowledge. Comments are posted about the subject matter. Your Profile is made by you. You have to choose from a list of 20 Photos. The You Tube Website is created clean and good looking.
@TensionAirsoft What? How? And even if they could, wouldn't it be better, as most of us don't commit crimes anyway, so that means more people who do will be caught easily.
@omendark123 look up how it steals your identity. anyone can download your info and find your car. and if your LEAF is found after someone robbed a bank with it, you go to prison, not the criminal
@TensionAirsoft But it doesn't and why would somebody rob the bank with your car, keep it in your garage? And you have tracking information and can prove it was stolen? Why am i even suggesting that it could happen haha
@omendark123 when it connects to the internet like that anyone can hack your car. hence it has your identity in it, so they know you own the car, and they can easily find you.
@gtarbmx depends on what country, state, province, city you live in. In Washington State, Seatte, we run on hydropowered electricity (we have a dam). So it works out better but in California, they might run on solar and Coal.
@Arthreas how do you know where i get my power from. the question i'm trying to pose is; where does the power come from? answer. burning fossil fuels and or nuclear plants. this energy is neither clean or free.
@gtarbmx Forgive me if you get your power from elsewhere. I was not trying to be rude. But in response to your main point of view their is nothing we can really do about it. This car is only trying to take a step away from gasoline. Take a gander at the "What if everything ran on gasoline" video. I however do understand exactly what you mean.
Electric cars don't need to be expensive. Sometimes cars are expensive because of what it offers, sometimes their expensive for no good reason. However, Elec. Cars can be simple. More affordable electric cars should be built. The price range for affordable Brand New Electric Vehicles should range around $8,000 Dollars - $16,000 Dollars.
@CoyoteInternational go to school much? know why everybody hates the oil company, because they're cheap. electrical cars are less to maintain. think about all those oil fluids you have to buy to maintain that engine of yours. have fun polluting the air you're breathing.
You know what I wish they did make? A car that has BOTH electric and gas. That way, once you use up the electricity you can have back up gas power. Also, WHY DO ALL GREEN ECO FRIENDLY CARS HAVE TO LOOK SO DAMN UGLY?!?! Make a decent looking one without having to be a granny driving!
@Carlit0Tit0 Haha do you know of the Chevy Volt? It is a plug in hybrid! So you charge it every night, and you get about 35-40 miles on just electric charge, and it has a petrol generator which powers the volt for 300 miles more when the electricity runs out, so you don't need 2 cars. But the point of the leaf is, that it is 100% electric. And that what makes it special, don't you want to have a car that uses no gas? Soon (in about 3-4 years), electric cars will have 200-300 mile ranges.
who cares if this car is electric. I would bet all of my money, (not much btw) that the electricity being used to charge this vehicle is made using oil and coal anyway!
@uvebeensniped You can buy "green" electricity, but even if it is produced by coal, it only produces about 60g of CO2 and that's it. When petrol/gas it made, it produces 400g of CO2, and on top of that it burns about 200g in cars , so the total is around 600g of CO2 for average cars.
So the leaf still emits 10 times less CO2, and you can buy solar panels which are quite expensive, but they can power your house, charge your electric car, and have additional electricity left over too - 0g CO2
@omendark123 yes but the way they are manufactured especially the way the batteries are made is terrible to the environment! See for your self watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk.
@MrTr0llol Haha that is top gear, they don't say anything useful, and that is an old prius, just a hybrid, not a fully 100% electric.
But yes, about 46% of the co2 an electric car will produce is during it's manufacturing stages, according to tests, even before it has travelled its first mile. But after that it doesn't produce that much co2 at all. Even when electricity is made using fossil fuels.
@MrTr0llol But it is more environmentally freindley. As it produces less co2 than an average car overall. About half in fact.
Read again what i said about the CO2 produced. And normal cars during manufacturing also produce alot of CO2. They produce a little less than the production of electric car manufacturing. This is because of the batteries, but they are reused in other things, they keep 80% charge after 10 years/100,000 miles.
Anyway at least we dont have to rely on oil, or fossil fuels!
Thousands of car accident victims were left behind by the massive government bailouts of GM and Chrysler. The $50 billion rescue of GM and the restructuring of Chrysler allowed them to "wash away legal responsibility for car-accident victims who had won damages or had pending lawsuits," OMG just found out,NO VOLT FOR ME.
America could make a 700Hp Ford F250 entirely battery and electric motor off the grid all under the hood and a huge battery system under the bed, it would have so much torque it would be obscene, no worries about winter the battery could keep itself warm with its own heater. We have technology to completely eliminate the use of any power outside of the vehicle itself. If anybody says different they are big oil or electric company schmucks.
This car can run all by itself, no plug, entirely off the grid. It is what what big oil has been trying to squash for 40 years. Install a Yamaha EF2600 generator in the rear one of the nissan leaf after you delete the gas cap and engine and modify a belt to a rear axle. It can charge the battery rapidly as you drive the vehicle. It only draws 5.5 hp at max to operate and that is really 4 hp, I dont think that should drag down the 110 hp motor too much. Send the gen power to the engine.
i rather just keep the car i have now this nissan leaf is about pointless. I can drive up 100+ miles in a day between school,work and doing other things
@sia1981go It costs about 3$ (usd) to fully charge, which gives you a range 109 miles. It could be even cheaper as you can charge it when electric rates are cheaper, like at night.
@sia1981go is about 1/10 the price of gas and it goes cheaper if you charge it at night when everyone sleeps and electricity demand is low, so the electricity is cheaper at night.....
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But electricity comes from coal no?
Answer :
The power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,solar.hydro,ect..
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it
The problem with All electric Green Cars is the price! They start at 27k to 31k. My Corolla cost 6k. Now if Gas cost $4-gal, in one year (at 12,000-miles per year) that would be $1,464. So it would take over 14 years i.e; 14 x $1,464 = $20,496,
(Plus the 6k I paid for my corolla). For a total of = $26,496. So an Electric car will TAKE 14 + Years (minis the cost of charging it) to match a Gas car like Corolla. KEEP YOUR GAS Guzzling COROLLA!
@robertquentincobb What if you want to buy a new car, that costs 20,000+, as a commuter car in a place that petrol prices are $8 per gallon, like the UK, not a super cheap figure of $3.50 per gallon in the USA.
They really need to improve on that 16 hour charge time. A simple transformer could be built into the car to step up the voltage from 120 to 220 and charge it in 8.
Can a transformer be used to step up the voltage to propel the car? You'd figure a transformer can charge the car with twice the power why cant it run your car with twice the power.
@tnguyen318 Dude, no offence but you do not understand electronics. The European plug which has an output of 220 Volts charges it in 8 hours. If this is true there is no reason why a transformer can not step up a USA plug Voltage from (110 - 120) to 220 to charge it in 8 hours also. The time it takes to fully charge a battery has no effect on the OUTPUT POWER per second.
@ryguy479 that's why they're adding charging stations all over the place you dumb fuck. it's like saying my gas engine car can only go so far until it needs to be filled up while i pay $5.00 per gallon of gasoline. besides that, it only takes 30 minutes to have it be charged from 0-80% outside your house. i would rather wait 30 minutes and pay no more than $3.00 for it than pay $80.00 per fill.
Connecting a charging unit ought to be fun, too, in the freezing rain with the salt water from the road salt (to control the ice) flowing around your boots
Electrons seem pretty hard to steer without a mechanism, aka wires. Nicola Tesla found that out in Colorado Springs, and Mother displays it all the time, in the form of lightning. I doubt that controlled "wireless charging" will ever become practical.
@paigelandau A lot of it actually is created via coal and nuclear, but there are many people who use renewable energy. But producing electricity using coal and nuclear burns 3x less co2 than getting petrol from crude oil. And on top of this more CO2 is burned in a gas/petrol powered car. So produces 6x less CO2 than your average gas powered car, but if the electricity is made by renewable resources, it produces no CO2. It also uses much less fossil fuels and coal, so it saves our resources.
Wires hanging around is an eye sore to the community. Charging units must not be placed at shopping malls and parking lots but instead to be put at charging stations.
@tnguyen318 what you said didn't quite make sense. charging stations should have their own area for people to charge their cars; i do agree with that, but i wasn't saying that these charging systems should take over the whole parking lot. when i said that "i could imagine myself going to work..." i'm just talking about seeing this in the future where things are more convenient.
@tnguyen318 who in the world would put wires all over the parking lot and shopping malls?! professionals would know better and place these charging stations in a proper area where it's still convenient to go to shopping malls and work. did you know that Target is offering charging stations at their retail stores while their customers shop? and the charging is free too =)
@tnguyen318 when i was younger, i never thought they looked awkward or ugly. but for one thing, i knew that i was at a gas station because they sure had a distinct gasoline smell to them. electric charging stations on the other hand, sure smells a lot better even under the weather.
Hmmm. Maybe it was just me. Maybe I noticed it at age 12 when someone was filling up gasoline. Trying to speak about past perceptions and being this accurate about them I think you tend to lose the accurate facts. For example the car was cloth, not leather, and it was $12,500 not $9,500.
About your experience. You didn't know it was a gas station entering the lot?
@tnguyen318 when we were all kids, we knew that it was a gas station. we didn't question why it's wierd looking or anything because it's like second nature to us; we don't think about it. all i knew was that my mom would stop at a gas station to get gas for the car and she would buy us candy inside the store. kids can remember a lot of things at a young age. starting around 4-5 years old; even at 3.
@tnguyen318 we all tend to remember a lot of things in the past. i'm 21 years old and i can recall a lot of fun and bad memories all the way down to 8. i could recall a lot more before 8, but i wouldn't be able to tell you what age i was because it's something we don't think about.
the range of the car is bullshit back in 1996 when they had electric cars and the big three got rid of them they had a range of 300 miles this car only has a 100 mile range wtf watch the documentary who killed the electric car with a nimh battery the cars had a 300 mile range your telling me with improvements in battery technology this car can only go 100 miles greedy motherfuckin oil company cunts
I agree i watched that doco and those cars were better back then then they are now, i also think considering the size of the batteries they can definitely pack more into the car and to get greater range.
@gmoorespokane I agree dude. I seen that vid in college. The ev1 cars were badass and they destroyed them all. They say we need to reduce dependancy on foreign oil yet they crushed all of them. Its all about money thats why the world is failing.
so where do u think electricity comes from?? do they used oil to produce power?? this is a major fail... like the hybrids and how much it will cause you for maintenance?
@kabasti The electricity can come from nuclear power stations, or oil, but the carbon dioxide given out by producing electricity is 3x less than the CO2 and energy used to produce petrol. And on top of that a petrol powered car produces even more CO2. It is low on maintenance as the battery packs are really reliable as they dont have any moving parts like engines, which means it is very cheap to maintain, and costs $3 to fully charge at home (109 miles).
@omendark123 I'm not sure about the US but here in Canada if you wanted to go fully zero emissions you could get bullfrog power. It's this energy company here that you pay to put clean energy in to the grid and so rather than paying hydro for electricity you pay them. So technically your houses power is 100% solar, wind, water etc. Do you guys have anything like this?
@canascot02 Nope we don't. But like every country we can get solar panels which can power our houses, charge a leaf, and have enough energy to supply to energy companies, which you can get paid for. But they have a high initial purchase price.
Of course we all like the idea of using Natural Forces to generate electricity. The mechanics of water flowing to spin magnets to create electricity is awesome. Using the wind to spin magnets located behind the fan blade is also awesome. Using Photo Voltaic Panels (solar calculator) to get electricity is also a good method. The future should see wireless charging become possible. We have already used antennas and radio waves to spark electricity.
In the USA the leaf costs just $26,000 after tax rebates, and in the UK it equals to around $43,000, so it is $17,000 more! Everything is so much cheaper in the USA, in the UK it costs us around $10 for a gallon of gas!!!
@omendark123 Yah everything is cheaper there, I'm from Canada, everyone here goes over the border for things like christmas shopping, back to school shopping etc. Keep in mind though the average earnings there are far less than here our in the UK.... still 43, 000 is insane, I think it's still like around 26k here in canada :S
@omendark123 Yeah but the Swiss are very prosperous people, earnings there are higher than US, Canada, and the UK so it all relates to how much people make and things like that. ps. You might want to think a bit more about that decision. Personally, I would hate to live in the states for several reasons which I won't get in to. We're having our federal elction now in Canada and if the conservative party is voted in again (tories) I have lost all faith in this country and I'm headed for Europe.
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MrDakns 2 months ago
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MrDakns 2 months ago
Why does every body speaks of fuck'n'coal ?? electricity comes from coal. .. ? maybe in the stupid usa but here in quebec it comes from DAMS and we sell it in the damn usa too... No stinking coal. And anyway it's has absolutly no point what-so-ever for this video.
The real question is How much this marvel will cost ? and do they sell a special plug or adapters to plug it at your house ...jeez there's still alot to do to get it ready.
theREALmegaverse 2 months ago
:) cool little car, might not quite be as good as petrol engines but oil won't last and it's early days, they will only get better in years to come. Most people i know own two cars, buy this as ya local run around school runs ect and ya normal car for more far a field driving.
PCthesecond 2 months ago
@PCthesecond I strongly believe that if 10% of the worlds cars are electric, more oil would be preserved and if there are more, all the better.
ROCKSOLID19 1 month ago
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MrDakns 3 months ago
electric cars make sence, why fill cars up during the day? charge overnight when you are asleep.
fairyheli2 3 months ago
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MrDakns 3 months ago
I went to the alt car expo this past weekend and shot a few videos of this car as well as took the Guided tour from the caffeinated super charged guide. One of my favorite weird things about this car is the Audio of an engine below 18 mph.
jnhearne 3 months ago
I had an idea today that may be useless but it's an idea. Why not put a wind turbine(s?) on the car help charge the car a bit while you are driving? Plus if you ad solar cells you could a little more power? Just an idea...
Meestarcheez 3 months ago
Thumbs up to leave this message on the top to help answer always the same following stupid question!
But electricity comes from coal no?
Answer :
The power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,solar.hydro,ect..
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it
gisellemartins20 4 months ago 9
@gisellemartins20
Okay....good luck charging it if you wonder about 10 miles from home.....
acenace24 4 months ago
@gisellemartins20
Green people are idiots because hydrogen is the FUTURE, because it....oh idk actually doesnt produce emissions (from the car or FROM A POWERPLANT!)
acenace24 4 months ago
@acenace24 I usually dont spend my time answering stupid affirmations like yours, but i will make this exepction as i have a spare minutes.
The only idiot here is you, there a dozen obvious reasons why hydrogen cars wouldn't work nowadays, a obvious but crucial one is that there is not a infrastructure ready for them, like we already do for petrol station and electric grids, that would coast millions for a single hydrogen station. Go study you idiot, stop bullshiting over the internet..
gisellemartins20 4 months ago 3
@gisellemartins20 hydrogen car may not have the infrastructure like petrol station and other source of energy but keep in mind that its one of the option of many that we're wiling to take in the future.
ja0129 3 months ago
@gisellemartins20 As far as I've understood, it's also extremely difficult to collect hydrogen into a smaller mass (volume) in order to make accessible/transportable for mass consumption. IOTW, hydrogen has to be compressed heavily and that is perhaps more of a hindrance than changing the infrastructure of regular patrol stations to hydrogen stations.
MrOceanPenguin 3 months ago
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And just where the hell does your hydrogen come from, water? Ha! And just how did you convert that water to hydrogen? Using a/any process that requires....ENERGY! Ta-da, you're an idiot.
stedavid13 1 month ago
@gisellemartins20 this car is bank account crushing to run. The batteries cost a fortune and need to be replaced cos batteries degrade fast soon enough which will cost thousands. The car costs almost twice as much as a similar petrol car by the time you do have to replace ALL the batteries which you WILL have to do the car would be almost worthless anyway and the repear would cost more than the car.
In short the car needs to be scrapped when the batteries wear out in about 5 years.
mrdojob 3 months ago
@gisellemartins20 1.How do you get rid of coal waste? and 2.Is it better than Bio Diesel?
CAJFB 3 months ago
@gisellemartins20 I'd rather see more R&D into nuclear fusion so we can produce a fuck load of power in the blink of an eye.
inamonianim 4 weeks ago
Rich countries wont buy this, the need for cheap electric cars and bikes is more in China and India becoz we want to save money not the environment and we dont think our manhood will be judged by the car we drive. You are what you hide, your not what you say you are mostly. Either way i think the Reva NXG will be more affordable.
KarthikSoun 4 months ago
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heartlessvietboy 4 months ago
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fucking piece of shit car
NewDisneySucksHard 5 months ago
Who has money to buy a Leaf, also has to solar panel.
Leaf is 99% recyclable, Batteries will be bought by Nissan after 10 years.
Next year will have autonomy of 300 km.
projetoaerogerador 5 months ago
Rather sell a car that's said to achieve 70 miles yet gets 100 miles than sell a car to get 100 miles yet gets only 70 miles. The good thing about the Nissan Leaf is that it's a pure Battery elec. vehicle. It offers 1/2 hour rapid charging. $.02 cents/mile $3.25 to Fully Charge, 150 miles per gallon. That's 5X's the MPG of a regular gasoline car.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
All the people who died or their Loved ONes or Family Died of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning
should start suing Patrol Companies and Gasoline Car Companies
watup2154 5 months ago
@watup2154 There are numerous warnings in the owner's manual of my car about leaving the engine running indoors.
jeffsandychelsea 5 months ago
LOL.
heartlessvietboy 4 months ago
the 2010-present Nissan Leaf is assembled in
Japan: Oppama, Tochigi, Yokohama
United Kingdom: Sunderland (2013)
United States: Smyrna, Tennessee (late 2012)
Annihilator1111 5 months ago
electric cars arent zero emmisions though are they. how do they think electricity is made?! they've only moved the process of burning the fossil fuels further up the line
bobjackson85 5 months ago
@bobjackson85 Actually, most coal power plants are more efficient than a gasoline engine. Then you take into account that oil must be drilled, transported, refined, transported again, and then burned in your car, and you get a lot fewer emissions, even if the electric car runs exclusively on coal-fired electricity. Even so, they are not truly zero emissions unless all the electricity they use comes from clean sources. Imagine if everyone installed just one small wind turbine in their backyards..
jeffsandychelsea 5 months ago
If Coal Power plants are more efficient than Gasoline engines, why aren't we running our cars on a Coal Power plant then?? This is the kinda balogny talk that gets people confused. Earth has been destroyed by Mining Coal. If you look at the surface of other planets (moons also), you can see the Terrain made of some form of design.
heartlessvietboy 4 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You, my friend, are very, very misinformed.
saucycade123 2 months ago
Why is every comment a reply??!!?! aHHHHHHHHHHH
cokefan3 5 months ago
OK, lets kill this. Hydrogen for normal cars, bio-fuel for sports cars, electric cars for nothing, agreed?
funnyrandomgenius 6 months ago
Okay the Leaf may not look super stylish but it's very efficient.
ECU7 6 months ago
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA electric cars suck
hejjagedu 6 months ago
As of right now hydrogen fuel is not an energy source, its an energy carrier. To get energy from Hydrogen you must use FOSSIL FUELS. Methane, for example, to release the so called energy. Yes it is a good idea if they can efficiently produce it but I believe that there will be an even better alternative to fueling cars in the future. I'm not saying that electric is the future, however I don't think hydrogen is either. As for gasoline and batteries, It's all about money...
SoleSky 6 months ago
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"Next year big burial party of the combustion engine here in Atlanta, GA USA. everyone is invited. it will take place at the Phillip Arena Stadium. It is now illegal to use a gas engine."
TheBzguy 6 months ago
Electric cars are not part of the future... What most people dont know when buying these cars is that the battery will need to be replaced in about 6-10 years. The cost to replace the battery is about 8000$.
The future is hydrogen cars. Hydrogen can be produced from electricity at charging stations then it can be cooled or compressed in the cars.
HonoredAPTD 6 months ago
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omendark123 6 months ago
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@HonoredAPTD What do you mean. Hydrogen cars cost alot to buy, and hydrogen is hard to store. It is still only about 20% cheaper to buy than petrol. In the USA, the nissan leaf costs 2c per mile to run. The batteries hold their charge 80% for 10 years/100,000 miles. It costs about $25,000, and lasts 10 years which is fine. That isn't much for a car anyway! And electric cars are ideal to use with renewable energy like solar, and they are easier to maintain. Don't spread around "shit" about EV's.
omendark123 6 months ago
@omendark123 Building a car that lasts 10 years is a waste of ressources. Im talking about hydrogen. A 100% clean and POWERFUL fuel which is can be produced from so many things and which can be stored many ways (liquid, compressed, chemicaly-stored etc.) Hydrogen cars could be filled with fuel as fast as gasoline cars are. Hydrogen combustion is so clean the engines would last ''forever''. Also, where would we dispose of all those batteries filled with nasty chemicals over just a few years?
HonoredAPTD 6 months ago
@HonoredAPTD The batteries are 95% recyclable. They hold their charge 80% after 100,000 miles/10 years. And they can be reused in many ways too. Most of the car is also recyclable too. Hydrogen cars are too expensive, and hydrogen isn't much cheaper than petrol.
omendark123 6 months ago
@HonoredAPTD I believe that you are right and I would love to see more cars that do use hydrogen. The fact is that you wont find any for 2 reasons and you already said 1.) that the battery needs to be replaced and for that reason car companies can still make money and we all know it is about the money. 2.) The Hindenburg - hydrogen just scares people. Sadly there are probably other reason too. I wish people would see it in your way. Enjoy the future =) Have a good day
memben 6 months ago
@memben Have a nice day too!
HonoredAPTD 6 months ago
@HonoredAPTD Hydrogen and gasoline are competitors with price. If you assume that the average driver pays $40 for gas each week to commute to work and there are 52 weeks in a year then paying for gas should be around $2000, Hydrogen fuel will be the same cost, if not more. If you multiply that by the time you need a new battery, then in ten years you will be paying upwards of $20,000! Unless they come up with a more cost effective way to produce fuel from hydrogen then this is far in the future
SoleSky 6 months ago
The price of hydrogen might be somewhat close to the price of gasoline, but hydrogen will never ''run out'' on Earth and you won't have cartels controlling the price of oil because H2 can be produced anywhere in the world. That being said, hydrogen is a very powerful fuel alike gasoline but unlike the energy stored in batteries. It can be refilled in car very fast, no waiting. Hydrogen cars are most likely to last MUCH longer than EV's with very few maintenance costs.
HonoredAPTD 6 months ago
@HonoredAPTD The future is not Hydrogen for vehicle propulsion for two reasons:
1, Hydrogen is just stored energy like gasoline or batteries however it takes more energy to convert water to hydrogen and then convert it again to kinetic propulsion (electricity) than it does just to store it in a battery.
2, Converting hydrogen into electricity to power a car requires about $80,000 worth of palladium PER CAR which is a heavy metal, unlike LiFePo4 batteries which use recyclable lithium.
ClownFight 6 months ago
@ClownFight And the electricity to charge these deadweight batteries comes from.......let's see--dig the coal.at great fuel use, transport it at...... Ah, the wonderful cycle of Newton's Apple!
MrDakns 6 months ago
@MrDakns Unless of course it's powered by nuclear in which case it could be the 'Atomic' Car. It makes more sense to dig up the local coal or uranium, turn that energy into electrons at a site well away from the population and power cars with it. Tapping into oil in the middle east, storing and shipping to our country, then processing it and distributing it to every car owner is a more complicated process. I don't believe in man-made climate change but I do like electric cars.
ClownFight 6 months ago
@ClownFight You forgot about 1st principle of efficient travel. Since dawn of history there's no such thing as 'range' you can travel. On foot you can walk for most of a day, same case with horses. Fossil fuels are easily 'recharged' - loading coal or fuel is matter of few minutes instead of hour. Wind power is bascily unlimited.
Battery powered cars will make sense when their range won't be issue anymore, which means it will have to be way more than 1000 km.
fresherty 5 months ago
@fresherty There's no 1st principle of efficient travel, you just made that up. An electric car only needs as much range as it's going to use. I travel 70 km each day to work and back and would charge the car up at night while I sleep just like my iPhone.
Wind power is limited by the wind, that doesn't always blow at full velocity and the $8,000,000 each one costs to build and erect. Caol fired electricity is here right now and it's pumped directly into my garage for 14 cents per kW/hr
ClownFight 5 months ago
@ClownFight Did I? Sure, you do travel exactly 70 km each day. I do travel at least 70 km each day, but in many cases I have to travel more than 200 km a day without previously knowing I will have to. Also, charging up electric car is a bit more tricky than you might think. 1st of all you need a plug. In most cases there arent any near the parking spots. Even if you find one, you will leave the charger laying on the ground for whole night? I wouldn't, even in most safe areas of the world.
fresherty 5 months ago
@ClownFight There is one more problem with electric car. Especially with Leaf. It's a compact car. Idea is it's small enough for comfortable city use and big enough for long travels. There's no problem with cities - the distances aren't too long, but trip from my city to nearest mountain resort would require either 3 day trip each way, or fast charge stations, which basicly destroy batteries if you use it extesively. Oh, right batteries. Those are tricky as well.
fresherty 5 months ago
@ClownFight If you use all the charge in Leaf every time or/and use fast charge stations you will have to replace whole battery pack after 2-3 years, for around 10 000 euro or so if i remember correctly. Whole car ain't really cheap either. It costs 31 000 euro, which is 3 times more than Nissan Micra. So what's the point really? You can't go t0o far in it because it has low range, so you can't really benefit from its 'fuel' price reduction... Appart from ecology argument its pointless...
fresherty 5 months ago
@fresherty I've already put my deposit on the Tesla type S to be delivered in 2013. The battery pack delivers a 250km range and will last 2000-3000 full discharges. That's 500,000 to 750,000km. A lot more than I'll do in 2/3 years. More like 20 to 25 years.
ClownFight 5 months ago
@ClownFight Again, you're missing a point. "Last" means after 2000-3000 discharges it will have less than 50% original capacity. By discharge in most cases they mean "goes down to 50%". Also, battery wears down with time regardless of its usage. Id say with your usage - 70 km/recharge - it will last 3 years... But again, a lot ppl use cars a lot more extensively. Plus, price is just outrageous - for example your Tesla Type-S gets close to M3-money. 0.0
fresherty 5 months ago
@fresherty I think you are thinking of old battery technology like Nickel Cadmium or every Nickel Metal Hydride. There are many variations of lithium battery technology and the characteristics relating to depth of disharge are very different to NiCad and NiMh. With Lithium Titinate batteries the depth of discharge is 90% and they have no memory effect and will last at least 2000 discharges to 90%. Taiwanese LiFepo4 batteries are guaranteed to last 3000 minimum.
ClownFight 5 months ago
@ClownFight Again, define "last". Regardless of technology battery wear is a problem. Even Li-ion battery (remember that Li-titanate battery is basicly the same technology apart from higher capacity) wear with time. The manufacturer 'guarantees' something, and it might be true... It's the same case with 'guaranteed' MPG of petrol cars. There are factors such as temperature that affect batteries greatly and all the tests are conducted in optimal conditions.
fresherty 5 months ago
@HonoredAPTD Actually people do know if they visit the website. It's says on the Q-A that the battery will last about 10 years.
Arthreas 5 months ago
In 200 years everyone will be riding bicycles. Guarenfuckingtee it
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funnyrandomgenius 6 months ago
@funnyrandomgenius I think hydrogen is the fuel of the future. Hydrogen can be produced from electricity (alike EV's) but they act like gasoline: it is also highly inflammable. One great thing about thay is that hydrogen cars don't release CO2 or SO2 or any other kind of shit, only water (steam). Hydrogen could be filled as fast as gasoline in cars and the engines running on hydrogen would probably last much longer than ones using gasoline.
HonoredAPTD 6 months ago
@HonoredAPTD very true! but we need to spot fucking around with EVs and work on making plants to turn water into Hydrogen. we then need to make that process more efficient. We can make a similar hydrogen to electricity system as a power plant to power homes.
funnyrandomgenius 6 months ago
I RAP AND MAKE MY OWN INSTRUMENTALS. UNTOUCHABLE!! reverbnation. com/drjayspacely (remove space)
DrJaySpacely 6 months ago
You wont get the pleasure of a M3 from this for eva
TheLuckydeal 6 months ago
It can't be that bad if every single waiting list for the Leaf is full.
bored1980 6 months ago
Fuck electric cars!! i will laugh in the face of people who buy them while i am listening to massive 4.4L V8 Engine in an M3. Only pussies will buy electric cars.
SilentSlayer90 6 months ago
@SilentSlayer90 Problem is, they'll be laughing at your gas guzzler too, so the roads will be full of laughter.
bored1980 6 months ago
What a fugly piece of shit. Batteries instead of supercapacitors, so they take FOREVER to charge. I'll pass. What a fucking ultrafail.
CalicoatMaker 7 months ago
@CalicoatMaker yes 30 minutes to charge takes FOREVER...maybe for a retard or autistic adhd kid
DStrike0083 7 months ago
@DStrike0083 Lol, well said. Plus, consider how far the range is. I drive (average) 15 miles per day, so that 30 minute charge will last me a week xD
ThugRandles 6 months ago
@DStrike0083 Maybe you have nothing to do in your day, but most people are very busy and 30 minutes might still be too long to wait. Hydrogen cars need to come out, hydrogen is a highly flammable and very clean fuel which can be produced from electricity. It could fill cars as fast as gasoline does in conventional cars.
HonoredAPTD 6 months ago
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MrDakns 7 months ago
Driving a Gasoline Car is embarrassing.
tnguyen318 7 months ago
@tnguyen318 Yeah, because they dont look as cool as this SuperPussy mobile, right?
CalicoatMaker 7 months ago
jesus christ are you a comunist, architect, actor, environmentalist, vegan?
please get rid of that and buy a real car... or not!!!
clarifaco 7 months ago
You Tube should change it's name. I want a title for each subject. There are 300 Million people in America. 150 Of whom can use the internet (others use writing pad). Subject Videos are made by Experts that's accurate as possible to our knowledge. Comments are posted about the subject matter. Your Profile is made by you. You have to choose from a list of 20 Photos. The You Tube Website is created clean and good looking.
heartlessvietboy 7 months ago
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MrDakns 7 months ago
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MrDakns 7 months ago
this thing allows police to find you easily
TensionAirsoft 7 months ago
@TensionAirsoft What? How? And even if they could, wouldn't it be better, as most of us don't commit crimes anyway, so that means more people who do will be caught easily.
omendark123 7 months ago
@omendark123 look up how it steals your identity. anyone can download your info and find your car. and if your LEAF is found after someone robbed a bank with it, you go to prison, not the criminal
TensionAirsoft 7 months ago
@TensionAirsoft But it doesn't and why would somebody rob the bank with your car, keep it in your garage? And you have tracking information and can prove it was stolen? Why am i even suggesting that it could happen haha
omendark123 7 months ago
@omendark123 when it connects to the internet like that anyone can hack your car. hence it has your identity in it, so they know you own the car, and they can easily find you.
TensionAirsoft 7 months ago
LAUNCH THE EMP, NO MORE CAR FO YHU!!
NaruMaakaKazuya 7 months ago
you think ima plug that thing up so my bill can sky rocket through the dam roof...HELL NAWWWW
MrTexasboy99 7 months ago
looks like the electric companies will be the new trillionares soon lol
jjmillr420 7 months ago
ask yourself this. where does the electric car get its power from
gtarbmx 7 months ago
@gtarbmx depends on what country, state, province, city you live in. In Washington State, Seatte, we run on hydropowered electricity (we have a dam). So it works out better but in California, they might run on solar and Coal.
VandonBan 7 months ago
@gtarbmx The electrical grid. Where you got the power to post that comment.
Arthreas 5 months ago
@Arthreas how do you know where i get my power from. the question i'm trying to pose is; where does the power come from? answer. burning fossil fuels and or nuclear plants. this energy is neither clean or free.
gtarbmx 5 months ago
@gtarbmx Forgive me if you get your power from elsewhere. I was not trying to be rude. But in response to your main point of view their is nothing we can really do about it. This car is only trying to take a step away from gasoline. Take a gander at the "What if everything ran on gasoline" video. I however do understand exactly what you mean.
Arthreas 4 months ago
What is the video about? Don't everything already ran on gasoline?
heartlessvietboy 4 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Just search it. It's another Nissan leaf promotion video. I enjoyed it, reminded me of diesel punk.
Arthreas 4 months ago
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Electric cars don't need to be expensive. Sometimes cars are expensive because of what it offers, sometimes their expensive for no good reason. However, Elec. Cars can be simple. More affordable electric cars should be built. The price range for affordable Brand New Electric Vehicles should range around $8,000 Dollars - $16,000 Dollars.
heartlessvietboy 4 months ago
@CoyoteInternational go to school much? know why everybody hates the oil company, because they're cheap. electrical cars are less to maintain. think about all those oil fluids you have to buy to maintain that engine of yours. have fun polluting the air you're breathing.
wasteeverybodiestime 7 months ago
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MrDakns 7 months ago
You know what I wish they did make? A car that has BOTH electric and gas. That way, once you use up the electricity you can have back up gas power. Also, WHY DO ALL GREEN ECO FRIENDLY CARS HAVE TO LOOK SO DAMN UGLY?!?! Make a decent looking one without having to be a granny driving!
Carlit0Tit0 7 months ago
@Carlit0Tit0 Haha do you know of the Chevy Volt? It is a plug in hybrid! So you charge it every night, and you get about 35-40 miles on just electric charge, and it has a petrol generator which powers the volt for 300 miles more when the electricity runs out, so you don't need 2 cars. But the point of the leaf is, that it is 100% electric. And that what makes it special, don't you want to have a car that uses no gas? Soon (in about 3-4 years), electric cars will have 200-300 mile ranges.
omendark123 7 months ago
I don't care that it takes more time to charge, SO WHAT?!!
I am sick paying over 100$ to fill up my car ever week. I could spend 100$ to charge up the Leaf for more than a year.
bomberfun1 7 months ago
There are even talks of charging cars via induction while you wait at traffic lights. By the way, 99% of round trips are less than 100 miles.
eggaweb 7 months ago
who cares if this car is electric. I would bet all of my money, (not much btw) that the electricity being used to charge this vehicle is made using oil and coal anyway!
uvebeensniped 7 months ago
@uvebeensniped You can buy "green" electricity, but even if it is produced by coal, it only produces about 60g of CO2 and that's it. When petrol/gas it made, it produces 400g of CO2, and on top of that it burns about 200g in cars , so the total is around 600g of CO2 for average cars.
So the leaf still emits 10 times less CO2, and you can buy solar panels which are quite expensive, but they can power your house, charge your electric car, and have additional electricity left over too - 0g CO2
omendark123 7 months ago
@omendark123 yes but the way they are manufactured especially the way the batteries are made is terrible to the environment! See for your self watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk.
MrTr0llol 7 months ago
@MrTr0llol Haha that is top gear, they don't say anything useful, and that is an old prius, just a hybrid, not a fully 100% electric.
But yes, about 46% of the co2 an electric car will produce is during it's manufacturing stages, according to tests, even before it has travelled its first mile. But after that it doesn't produce that much co2 at all. Even when electricity is made using fossil fuels.
Anyway, the point is it's really cheap to run.
omendark123 7 months ago
@omendark123 as long people realize its cheap to run not environmentally friend as it can be than im ok with that.
MrTr0llol 7 months ago
@MrTr0llol But it is more environmentally freindley. As it produces less co2 than an average car overall. About half in fact.
Read again what i said about the CO2 produced. And normal cars during manufacturing also produce alot of CO2. They produce a little less than the production of electric car manufacturing. This is because of the batteries, but they are reused in other things, they keep 80% charge after 10 years/100,000 miles.
Anyway at least we dont have to rely on oil, or fossil fuels!
omendark123 7 months ago
@uvebeensniped Nuclear.
bomberfun1 7 months ago
well it was about time, however try selling this to all the rednecks down south, good luck
jpprr 7 months ago
Respect to Nissan for having balls and heart to pioneer in the field of EVs. This is a whole other level.
vmorgun 7 months ago
Thousands of car accident victims were left behind by the massive government bailouts of GM and Chrysler. The $50 billion rescue of GM and the restructuring of Chrysler allowed them to "wash away legal responsibility for car-accident victims who had won damages or had pending lawsuits," OMG just found out,NO VOLT FOR ME.
DBSpy1 8 months ago
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MrDakns 7 months ago
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America could make a 700Hp Ford F250 entirely battery and electric motor off the grid all under the hood and a huge battery system under the bed, it would have so much torque it would be obscene, no worries about winter the battery could keep itself warm with its own heater. We have technology to completely eliminate the use of any power outside of the vehicle itself. If anybody says different they are big oil or electric company schmucks.
46Mongoose 8 months ago 2
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This car can run all by itself, no plug, entirely off the grid. It is what what big oil has been trying to squash for 40 years. Install a Yamaha EF2600 generator in the rear one of the nissan leaf after you delete the gas cap and engine and modify a belt to a rear axle. It can charge the battery rapidly as you drive the vehicle. It only draws 5.5 hp at max to operate and that is really 4 hp, I dont think that should drag down the 110 hp motor too much. Send the gen power to the engine.
46Mongoose 8 months ago
wow we found a car gayer then the preious
blockboy215 8 months ago
i rather just keep the car i have now this nissan leaf is about pointless. I can drive up 100+ miles in a day between school,work and doing other things
ZombieKiller222 8 months ago
Electricity demand won't be low and the price won't be cheaper if everyone is charging their cars at night while they sleep.
MrDakns 8 months ago
I'll walk Thanks.
MEandME266 8 months ago
@MEandME266 dont lie
AccountCreamated 8 months ago
Such a ugly pice of crap !
micleim 8 months ago
I mean how much does it cost to charge it once?
sia1981go 8 months ago
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@sia1981go It costs about 3$ (usd) to fully charge, which gives you a range 109 miles. It could be even cheaper as you can charge it when electric rates are cheaper, like at night.
omendark123 8 months ago
@sia1981go is about 1/10 the price of gas and it goes cheaper if you charge it at night when everyone sleeps and electricity demand is low, so the electricity is cheaper at night.....
bonds911 8 months ago
@sia1981go Its costs about £1.30
daddy100mum 8 months ago
How much does it cost to fill it up with electric power?
sia1981go 8 months ago
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omendark123 8 months ago
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Thumbs up to leave this message on the top to help answer always the same following stupid question!
But electricity comes from coal no?
Answer :
The power source may be coming from coal powered plants but it uses the power far more efficently than a combustible engine and therefore pollutes FAR less than ICE motors.
Secondly, it has the ability to be powered from renewable non polluting energy sources like wind,solar.hydro,ect..
Electric cars are the future and nothing will stop it
gisellemartins20 8 months ago 10
370Z or this.... hmmmmmmm
Andy87GDR 8 months ago
The problem with All electric Green Cars is the price! They start at 27k to 31k. My Corolla cost 6k. Now if Gas cost $4-gal, in one year (at 12,000-miles per year) that would be $1,464. So it would take over 14 years i.e; 14 x $1,464 = $20,496,
(Plus the 6k I paid for my corolla). For a total of = $26,496. So an Electric car will TAKE 14 + Years (minis the cost of charging it) to match a Gas car like Corolla. KEEP YOUR GAS Guzzling COROLLA!
robertquentincobb 8 months ago
@robertquentincobb What if you want to buy a new car, that costs 20,000+, as a commuter car in a place that petrol prices are $8 per gallon, like the UK, not a super cheap figure of $3.50 per gallon in the USA.
omendark123 8 months ago
@robertquentincobb wow you really are an idiot. you're comparing as a can only assume an old ass fking carolla vs a brand new car?
basic corolla starts at 16k msrp with 28/35
"sight" dumb ass
omerta69 8 months ago
Try driving this in the rain
mrdragonballz418 8 months ago
It was not affordable, the Leaf has failed, no one bought it.
frosted1030 9 months ago
They really need to improve on that 16 hour charge time. A simple transformer could be built into the car to step up the voltage from 120 to 220 and charge it in 8.
john17972 9 months ago
Can a transformer be used to step up the voltage to propel the car? You'd figure a transformer can charge the car with twice the power why cant it run your car with twice the power.
tnguyen318 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 Dude, no offence but you do not understand electronics. The European plug which has an output of 220 Volts charges it in 8 hours. If this is true there is no reason why a transformer can not step up a USA plug Voltage from (110 - 120) to 220 to charge it in 8 hours also. The time it takes to fully charge a battery has no effect on the OUTPUT POWER per second.
john17972 8 months ago
Electricity is Balogny!!!! Its abundant!!! Voltage is just the Size of the Copper Wires and the module!!!
tnguyen318 8 months ago
42 people like paying 8 times more for oil than electricity.
omendark123 9 months ago
@ryguy479 that's why they're adding charging stations all over the place you dumb fuck. it's like saying my gas engine car can only go so far until it needs to be filled up while i pay $5.00 per gallon of gasoline. besides that, it only takes 30 minutes to have it be charged from 0-80% outside your house. i would rather wait 30 minutes and pay no more than $3.00 for it than pay $80.00 per fill.
wasteeverybodiestime 9 months ago 12
Connecting a charging unit ought to be fun, too, in the freezing rain with the salt water from the road salt (to control the ice) flowing around your boots
MrDakns 9 months ago
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MrDakns 9 months ago
Electrons seem pretty hard to steer without a mechanism, aka wires. Nicola Tesla found that out in Colorado Springs, and Mother displays it all the time, in the form of lightning. I doubt that controlled "wireless charging" will ever become practical.
MrDakns 9 months ago
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MrDakns 9 months ago
im glad you all think electricity grows on trees and isnt created via coal and nuclear power.
paigelandau 9 months ago
@paigelandau A lot of it actually is created via coal and nuclear, but there are many people who use renewable energy. But producing electricity using coal and nuclear burns 3x less co2 than getting petrol from crude oil. And on top of this more CO2 is burned in a gas/petrol powered car. So produces 6x less CO2 than your average gas powered car, but if the electricity is made by renewable resources, it produces no CO2. It also uses much less fossil fuels and coal, so it saves our resources.
omendark123 9 months ago
@paigelandau ever thought about solar power plates or wind turbines?
wasteeverybodiestime 9 months ago
i could imagine going to work for 8-10 hours while my car is charging in the parking lot =)
395131 9 months ago
Wires hanging around is an eye sore to the community. Charging units must not be placed at shopping malls and parking lots but instead to be put at charging stations.
tnguyen318 9 months ago
@tnguyen318 what you said didn't quite make sense. charging stations should have their own area for people to charge their cars; i do agree with that, but i wasn't saying that these charging systems should take over the whole parking lot. when i said that "i could imagine myself going to work..." i'm just talking about seeing this in the future where things are more convenient.
395131 9 months ago
@tnguyen318 who in the world would put wires all over the parking lot and shopping malls?! professionals would know better and place these charging stations in a proper area where it's still convenient to go to shopping malls and work. did you know that Target is offering charging stations at their retail stores while their customers shop? and the charging is free too =)
wasteeverybodiestime 9 months ago
When you were younger, did you ever thought gasoline pump wires looked awkward and ugly?? Its hanging from atop looks really sloppy.
tnguyen318 9 months ago
@tnguyen318 when i was younger, i never thought they looked awkward or ugly. but for one thing, i knew that i was at a gas station because they sure had a distinct gasoline smell to them. electric charging stations on the other hand, sure smells a lot better even under the weather.
wasteeverybodiestime 9 months ago
Hmmm. Maybe it was just me. Maybe I noticed it at age 12 when someone was filling up gasoline. Trying to speak about past perceptions and being this accurate about them I think you tend to lose the accurate facts. For example the car was cloth, not leather, and it was $12,500 not $9,500.
About your experience. You didn't know it was a gas station entering the lot?
tnguyen318 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 when we were all kids, we knew that it was a gas station. we didn't question why it's wierd looking or anything because it's like second nature to us; we don't think about it. all i knew was that my mom would stop at a gas station to get gas for the car and she would buy us candy inside the store. kids can remember a lot of things at a young age. starting around 4-5 years old; even at 3.
wasteeverybodiestime 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 we all tend to remember a lot of things in the past. i'm 21 years old and i can recall a lot of fun and bad memories all the way down to 8. i could recall a lot more before 8, but i wouldn't be able to tell you what age i was because it's something we don't think about.
wasteeverybodiestime 8 months ago
I assume you're a white girl. White girls are very smart although their brain is the size of a pea.
tnguyen318 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This is not the worlds first "ELECTRIC CAR", but it's the world's first mass marketed "ELECTRIC CAR".
P.S. It might get killed off just like the 1996 "ELECTRIC CARS", "THE WORLD RUNS ON OIL AND AMERICA WANTS TO DOMINATE IT"
TheBigBossJohan 9 months ago
the range of the car is bullshit back in 1996 when they had electric cars and the big three got rid of them they had a range of 300 miles this car only has a 100 mile range wtf watch the documentary who killed the electric car with a nimh battery the cars had a 300 mile range your telling me with improvements in battery technology this car can only go 100 miles greedy motherfuckin oil company cunts
gmoorespokane 9 months ago 15
I agree i watched that doco and those cars were better back then then they are now, i also think considering the size of the batteries they can definitely pack more into the car and to get greater range.
Sefveron 8 months ago
@gmoorespokane I agree dude. I seen that vid in college. The ev1 cars were badass and they destroyed them all. They say we need to reduce dependancy on foreign oil yet they crushed all of them. Its all about money thats why the world is failing.
Cook2430 7 months ago
@gmoorespokane
those bigger batteries took forever to charge. and required more fossil fuels to be burned to charge them.
do the math this is better for the ozone
supertaco22 7 months ago
so where do u think electricity comes from?? do they used oil to produce power?? this is a major fail... like the hybrids and how much it will cause you for maintenance?
kabasti 9 months ago
@kabasti The electricity can come from nuclear power stations, or oil, but the carbon dioxide given out by producing electricity is 3x less than the CO2 and energy used to produce petrol. And on top of that a petrol powered car produces even more CO2. It is low on maintenance as the battery packs are really reliable as they dont have any moving parts like engines, which means it is very cheap to maintain, and costs $3 to fully charge at home (109 miles).
omendark123 9 months ago
@omendark123 I'm not sure about the US but here in Canada if you wanted to go fully zero emissions you could get bullfrog power. It's this energy company here that you pay to put clean energy in to the grid and so rather than paying hydro for electricity you pay them. So technically your houses power is 100% solar, wind, water etc. Do you guys have anything like this?
canascot02 9 months ago
@canascot02 Nope we don't. But like every country we can get solar panels which can power our houses, charge a leaf, and have enough energy to supply to energy companies, which you can get paid for. But they have a high initial purchase price.
omendark123 9 months ago
Of course we all like the idea of using Natural Forces to generate electricity. The mechanics of water flowing to spin magnets to create electricity is awesome. Using the wind to spin magnets located behind the fan blade is also awesome. Using Photo Voltaic Panels (solar calculator) to get electricity is also a good method. The future should see wireless charging become possible. We have already used antennas and radio waves to spark electricity.
tnguyen318 9 months ago
@kabasti ever thought of wind turbines and solar panels?
wasteeverybodiestime 9 months ago
In the USA the leaf costs just $26,000 after tax rebates, and in the UK it equals to around $43,000, so it is $17,000 more! Everything is so much cheaper in the USA, in the UK it costs us around $10 for a gallon of gas!!!
omendark123 9 months ago
@omendark123 Yah everything is cheaper there, I'm from Canada, everyone here goes over the border for things like christmas shopping, back to school shopping etc. Keep in mind though the average earnings there are far less than here our in the UK.... still 43, 000 is insane, I think it's still like around 26k here in canada :S
canascot02 9 months ago
@canascot02 It costs $52,000 in Switzerland!!! But I do like America, and might want to move there in the future.
omendark123 9 months ago
@omendark123 Yeah but the Swiss are very prosperous people, earnings there are higher than US, Canada, and the UK so it all relates to how much people make and things like that. ps. You might want to think a bit more about that decision. Personally, I would hate to live in the states for several reasons which I won't get in to. We're having our federal elction now in Canada and if the conservative party is voted in again (tories) I have lost all faith in this country and I'm headed for Europe.
canascot02 9 months ago