StarCraft 2 - IdrA [Z] vs PuMa [T] G2 (Commentary)

[Taliwan3]

COOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL­LLLLLLL

Puma=Workerkiller^^

[lastadolkgGM]

macro game against a zerg... something wrong there..

[ultima0121]

Wow!! What a great match!

[Malcer28]

Love your commentary, but please be careful about using the phrase "come back". At no point in that game was Idra behind. He took some damage but he had such a big economy going that he could easily replace the drones he lost. Then he kept trading with the mech army to keep it small so he wouldn't have to worry about a push until much later.

[Mrwhitefang22]

i really love Idra the way he is playing but 1 thing i dont like about him is that he is a low tempered kid that GG early and left the game!!! but over all he is a good player!!!

[bubba18sar]

Have I mentioned the new Youtube sucks? The comments sections are always so fucked up looking.. on every computer I get on!

[MonoCabron123]

I play T, but i gotta admit : IdrA good player

[danny100333]

jessus both of them are rly good at macroing.



[MilkFi5h]

Force you should probably take a peek at the supply when you are saying who is ahead. Kind of silly to say 'idra is definately behind' just because he lost some drones when he is over 50 supply ahead.

Sigh, how bored am I, nitpicking on youtube. Need D3! :D

[AngryScissor]

@kjcvgjmkg You have to remember, like force said, that mass muta worked so well specifically because Puma was building mech. Versus marines, mutas are far less devastating.

[naccass]

I havn't seen idra rage in a long time, did he find happiness?

[ZwixHardstyle]

SPOILER ALERT: Game is over 10 min

[qwas12348gr5]

(Continued)

It's not as if he didn't have a massive amount of minerals to make a few spine crawlers, notice the only damage Puma did in the first 10-15 minutes (a LOT of time) was via hellions. I'm not one to say this but I think IdrA didn't react enough.

[qwas12348gr5]

One of the things pros are really, really good at is not over-reacting. If I were to see a single medivac drop in TvT, I would probaly build 2 turrets in my mineral line, about 5 around by base perimeter, and another 2-3 around my production buildings. Puma probaly would've built a total of 1-2 there. However, I do think IdrA under-reacted a little in this game. The only reason he was falling behind was because of those hellions. 2-3 crawlers per base would've been enough, but nope.

Oh well lol

[AngryScissor]

@qwas12348gr5 You'd make 9-10 turrets to defend one base from one drop? Even when you play the race that has tier 1 gasless anti air?

[fistman4]

idra wins

[cyberyamazaki]

how does one physically engage the opponent's army when playing sc2?

[iamzevampyrelite]

6:19 <3 Force LOL! No matter what others say, a 'roach will never be a nice one. Especially the flying variety kind that seems to be coming at ya! =)

[HammerSC2]

Seems stupid if you're going mech not to make sat bases PF's with several MT's to protect for air. I don't understand why pro's seem to mimimize defense, especially in longer games...

[WhiteKnightFury]

@HammerSC2 MTs cost a lot of minerals.Making a lot of turrets at one base can make it impervious to mutas but imagine the amount of minerals needed to do the same for every terran base in the late game.

You will get behind in army count and be forced in to a turtling game that will eventually lose to the zerg. Also note that MTs cannot deal with ground forces so the zerg player onyl have to react by massing a ground army to crush the terran.

[HammerSC2]

@WhiteKnightFury I understand, I just think that it can be more expensive to lose bases/scv's due to muta harass and attack then putting up multiple turrets..

[suvaline02]

it is the inner supply that matters

[afung89]

is it just me or is the video really laggy or some kind of error always occur?

[BillYiOn1]

Guys, supply for zvt doesnt really indicate how "behind" you are. A 60 supply tank army (20 tanks) can easily wreck a 200 supply roach army. Or 10 thors, hell 2 ravens, has the potential to kill 100 mutas. Or 10 hellions can easily roast 100 zerglings. Also consider how much terran relies on mules, they cost no supply and is equivilant to about 3 scvs.

[BillYiOn1]

Nice to see idra being an aggressive player.

[stealingyermail]

gg

[starzic]

woaw Idra is so skilled ! Do an A click muta all game! Omg so skilled !

[TJPr0ducti0ns]

@starzic lol you clearly dont know anything about starcraft. if you a click, all of them bunch up and die to thor. so he magic boxs (get your terms right) and terran is all about a click ( not starting a who's race is better war) . Considering he has a very immobile army, YES idra WILL take advantage of that...any player with skills would. So stop hating against IDRA, he's amazing, and so is PUMA :)

[starzic]

@TJPr0ducti0ns its my opinion and idra is clearly an A click skill noob projoker. So please dont say anything about me coz u dont know me and im just talking about idra.

[BinaryHelix86]

@starzic I'm going to side with TJPr0ducti0ns on this one. Idra and puma are both pro's, and unit position is everything in engagements, so "A clicking" just wont work. Saying that Idra is "an A click skill noob projoker" is not only offensive to him, but more-so to PUMA since he did lose this game. WP from both though :D

[RomanXCastro]

Idra was never behind in this game...

[MrRobotClouds]

@RomanXCastro seriously. After 75 workers killed he still had a 20+ worker lead.

[Demonhybrid12]

muta's OP

[johnblasi1989]

Force... I don't know what you were talking about... Idra was never behind at any point... Sure he kept taking small economy losses here and there but he maintained a higher worker count pretty consistently... Idra's strategy is to keep absorbing damage while taking minimal losses and keeping the opponent on a maximum of three bases until the opponent starves themselves out. I've seen him do it so many times now.

[johnblasi1989]

@johnblasi1989 Not to mention he was maxed for the majority of the game...

[johnblasi1989]

@johnblasi1989 And he had a huge number of banked minerals consistantly which allowed him to re-max much faster than Puma.

[GFunk2924]

This video made me consider unsubscribing from force, Idra had a 50 supply lead yet "needed to get back in the game." That is some amateur level analysis.

[Legend8520]

Idra is seriously incredible



[Yomamax88]

those muta

[sorryari]

Idra's doing a great job clawing his way back into this game

*looks at supply 103 for T vs 200 for Z

[Michaelmop]

I fucking love Idra. For the Zerg!..

[helldemon44]

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[Albsound]

you're so professional, listening to you looks like a college lesson

but you talk about videogameeeeessss!!!

[skzsz]

terran is a epic failure units for their slowness... and vikings... a bad anti air unit for mass mutalisks...

zerg is a fast mobile mass attack unit which i like a lot but not really used to producing drone and unit thing i still dont get the timing when to do what?!

[GlookRUS]

KILL THIS FUCKIN ZERG!

[lopataviorel]

idra wasn't that far behind as force told... he had 100 supply lead for at least the last 10 minutes of the game and it was just a matter of time before the brood lords came out :D

[kiwiGaming1]

the funny thing is

if you watch game 1 and there are 3 games then you know whos gonna win in the 2nd game :D

[Siyko]

Force. You have a good casting voice and your commentary is pretty good. But when Zerg has 5 bases and 200 supply, and Terran has 3 bases and 120, Zerg does not need to 'get back in the game'. He is trying to secure the win.

[centercity1]

its just hard to digest that after so much unstoppable harassment and so many drones killed a medium group of hydras and some roaches can kill a 3/4 base terran

[basseAEG]

i don't get puma's unit composition. it seems very costy and innefficent. especially against air zerg. whats the point of it?

[Nevadajsp]

@basseAEG ^Puma isnt a mech player so =D

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[Warphaker]

great game thanks for casting, Force!

[NiTheGod]

this map isn't balanced, z favored for zvt

[cirkic]

@NiTheGod shut the fuck up

[MrTetris88]

@NiTheGod according to most pro's this map actually favours terran. since they made it no close spawns it evened it up a little but still favours terran. who told you it favors zerg?

[Godspart0n]

@MrTetris88 according to most pro's and STATISTICS this map favors zerg :)

[Samsun55]

@Godspart0n So badly! Mutas are friggin op...

[pcguy2]

Force, why you say Idra was clawing his way back? He was double puma's supply when you said that. Seems like he was ahead the entire game. Puma's drone kills did nothing to stop Idra's economy. Idra seemed dominant, he was successful is stalling until brood lords coming out.

[JerryBlane]

FORCE <3

[stoleurshoes]

brand new vid and already a dislike who was it?

[tolidboy]

Spoiler: Toss wins

[X7FILMS]

Anti spoiler bro

[skillspua99]

great game, really end to end stuff kept me hooked till the end. excellent commentary as usual

[nasibal1]

wauw shoing how amazing idra can be !

[luis94289428]

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[AssFragger]

@luis94289428 Shitty wall is full of holes

[Gilroben]

@luis94289428 Anti-Spoiler Force Field is more "Starcrafty".



[HotS1337]

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