@computerboy13 So that could explain why some albums are spread over two pieces of vinyl and some over just one but have the same RPM? One is simply louder? :S
I always knew vinyl had a loudness limit, it's not a great comparison but it just shits me that they could've easily made the CD sound as good as the vinyl, but didn't.
@DIGITALSCREAMS Sorry I didn't check this in ages, the song's called The Suburbs from Arcade Fire's latest album The Suburbs, check out their other two albums too!
God a I love the internet. I just clicked onto this link because im interested in CD and Vinyl etc...and I've just discovered a new band in the process. On the strength of this song Im going to check them out.
Please can you confirm the title track and album its from.
The main reason for the vinyl sounding better than the cd is simply because they would not have enough "room" on the vinyl if the sound was increased anymore. The louder sound is, the bigger the wave, and a bigger wave takes up more room on the record and causes shorter playback time. The cd is not affected by this however which is why they made it LOUD AS HELL and basically lost any dynamic sound available.
It really isn't worth comparing this masterpiece on both formats. Each completed song was pressed on a12" record and recorded from vinyl to digital. Which is why the quality on CD is closest to the actual vinyl version. That's why you hear the little crackle in the very beginning of 'Modern Man'. :)
@ninenine909 I knew that the CD was ripped off the vinyl - so that the CD sounded like the vinyl, which is a very cool idea - how hipster of them :P. It's partly why I bought the vinyl copy, to compare to the CD to see if it worked - but it didn't, in my opinion I think its mostly due to the loudening of the CD, as the visual in my vid shows, information's been lost. It shits me haha. But oh well, it certainly is a masterpiece of an album.
The loudness war just makes me rage, its a load of bs.
I have the new Arcade Fire album ripped in FLAC and it sounds fucking amazing. As long as you EQ it and have a decent setup it definitely sounds amazing. I need to learn more about recording.
@GarrettBMXes But you shouldn't have to EQ it to sound good - this vid is nothing special, one hasto experience it themselves - whilst actually playing the vinyl and comparing it to the CD manually, it's ALOT more obvious on my sound setup than what I made here.
Though, I did think the CD sounded fine until I compared it to the vinyl... but that goes with all things music/audio, it sounds fine till you compare it with something better.
@MrJSab I EQ it to my tastes, not to make it sound "good". I prefer a very "cold" or "bright" listening experience, and by that I mean more highs and lows with less mid. I've never really had the opportunity to hear a good quality vinyl record on a good quality deck, so I can't really say whether or not I prefer the sound of digital to analog or not. I definitely prefer digital copies to analog, but with the packages some artists are handing out I can get the best of both worlds.
@GarrettBMXes Actually that's fair enough, I like that kind of sound too most of the time.
As everyone says - vinyl has a warmer sound, in my view it sounds more layed back, less in your face. You don't feel fatigued after listening to an entire album - the loudness and thus reduction of dynamics in new music can cause such fatigue, I've noticed it a little but choose to ignore it otherwise I'll never be able to listen to any new music haha! (good thing I mostly like older stuff though)
I don't understand how there's a difference in the CD versions vs the vinyl, aside from the obvious differences from the sound of the vinyl. If the CD is lossless and all original how does it differ from a vinyl copy? I can hear the differences in the video, but I'm hearing nothing near what I should be. YouTube at 720p is 128Kbps audio, which is horrid.
Big difference. You can really notice a difference in the drums. The CD version sounds garbage compared to Vinyl. Idk why bands and record labels would decide to go for loudness over quality and dynamics
@2BCProductions "Idk why bands and record labels would decide to go for loudness over quality and dynamics"
If a record company does some research and finds the most people are listening to music in their car or on an iPod or so on, then it makes sense for them to apply compression. Also, if people listen to the radio and hear a song they like, then buy the album, they expect it to sound like that. For those who think vinyl is better, try listening to classical music on vinyl vs CD.
Haha but really, the more important thing is that The Suburbs is an awesome album, I only started listening to Arcade Fire about a month ago. There aren't that many new great bands these days :/
@computerboy13 So that could explain why some albums are spread over two pieces of vinyl and some over just one but have the same RPM? One is simply louder? :S
I always knew vinyl had a loudness limit, it's not a great comparison but it just shits me that they could've easily made the CD sound as good as the vinyl, but didn't.
@DIGITALSCREAMS Sorry I didn't check this in ages, the song's called The Suburbs from Arcade Fire's latest album The Suburbs, check out their other two albums too!
MrJSab 3 weeks ago
God a I love the internet. I just clicked onto this link because im interested in CD and Vinyl etc...and I've just discovered a new band in the process. On the strength of this song Im going to check them out.
Please can you confirm the title track and album its from.
Thank you very much!
Jago
DIGITALSCREAMS 2 months ago
@DIGITALSCREAMS I should mention, the last time I bought an LP from a Canadian band it was back in 1985 in the form of Platinum Blonde.
Very good music in my opinion!
Jago
DIGITALSCREAMS 2 months ago
The main reason for the vinyl sounding better than the cd is simply because they would not have enough "room" on the vinyl if the sound was increased anymore. The louder sound is, the bigger the wave, and a bigger wave takes up more room on the record and causes shorter playback time. The cd is not affected by this however which is why they made it LOUD AS HELL and basically lost any dynamic sound available.
computerboy13 3 months ago
It really isn't worth comparing this masterpiece on both formats. Each completed song was pressed on a12" record and recorded from vinyl to digital. Which is why the quality on CD is closest to the actual vinyl version. That's why you hear the little crackle in the very beginning of 'Modern Man'. :)
ninenine909 8 months ago
@ninenine909 I knew that the CD was ripped off the vinyl - so that the CD sounded like the vinyl, which is a very cool idea - how hipster of them :P. It's partly why I bought the vinyl copy, to compare to the CD to see if it worked - but it didn't, in my opinion I think its mostly due to the loudening of the CD, as the visual in my vid shows, information's been lost. It shits me haha. But oh well, it certainly is a masterpiece of an album.
The loudness war just makes me rage, its a load of bs.
MrJSab 8 months ago
@MrJSab Adele and The Black Keys did the same with their latest albums.
ninenine909 8 months ago
Man that Record has some terrible skips!
Morahman7vnNo2 8 months ago
I have the new Arcade Fire album ripped in FLAC and it sounds fucking amazing. As long as you EQ it and have a decent setup it definitely sounds amazing. I need to learn more about recording.
GarrettBMXes 1 year ago
@GarrettBMXes But you shouldn't have to EQ it to sound good - this vid is nothing special, one hasto experience it themselves - whilst actually playing the vinyl and comparing it to the CD manually, it's ALOT more obvious on my sound setup than what I made here.
Though, I did think the CD sounded fine until I compared it to the vinyl... but that goes with all things music/audio, it sounds fine till you compare it with something better.
MrJSab 8 months ago
@MrJSab I EQ it to my tastes, not to make it sound "good". I prefer a very "cold" or "bright" listening experience, and by that I mean more highs and lows with less mid. I've never really had the opportunity to hear a good quality vinyl record on a good quality deck, so I can't really say whether or not I prefer the sound of digital to analog or not. I definitely prefer digital copies to analog, but with the packages some artists are handing out I can get the best of both worlds.
GarrettBMXes 8 months ago
@GarrettBMXes Actually that's fair enough, I like that kind of sound too most of the time.
As everyone says - vinyl has a warmer sound, in my view it sounds more layed back, less in your face. You don't feel fatigued after listening to an entire album - the loudness and thus reduction of dynamics in new music can cause such fatigue, I've noticed it a little but choose to ignore it otherwise I'll never be able to listen to any new music haha! (good thing I mostly like older stuff though)
MrJSab 8 months ago
I don't understand how there's a difference in the CD versions vs the vinyl, aside from the obvious differences from the sound of the vinyl. If the CD is lossless and all original how does it differ from a vinyl copy? I can hear the differences in the video, but I'm hearing nothing near what I should be. YouTube at 720p is 128Kbps audio, which is horrid.
GarrettBMXes 1 year ago
Big difference. You can really notice a difference in the drums. The CD version sounds garbage compared to Vinyl. Idk why bands and record labels would decide to go for loudness over quality and dynamics
2BCProductions 1 year ago
@2BCProductions "Idk why bands and record labels would decide to go for loudness over quality and dynamics"
If a record company does some research and finds the most people are listening to music in their car or on an iPod or so on, then it makes sense for them to apply compression. Also, if people listen to the radio and hear a song they like, then buy the album, they expect it to sound like that. For those who think vinyl is better, try listening to classical music on vinyl vs CD.
cadmus98 6 months ago
Haha but really, the more important thing is that The Suburbs is an awesome album, I only started listening to Arcade Fire about a month ago. There aren't that many new great bands these days :/
MrJSab 1 year ago