@VelikyRostov9 The beauty of this performance, is that Kee - as always - totally forgot that this is a baroque piece, totally forgot about all the baroque essays he never read and turned it into a perfect romantic interpretation, with romantic tempi, romantic rhetoric, romantic tactus, romantic rubato, romantic everything: like the typical modern zoom in and zoom out on the little details of a painting, instead of admiring the entire masterpiece as an unicum.
@ALRAesurrection It's fortunate that the Baroque composers didn't know about the romantic period; or else they wouldn't have been able to play baroque music. Now that we know about the romantic period, instead of playing baroque music with romance, we must play baroque music not as we might have, but in a manner only to confirm what we think Romantic wouldn't be. It's fortunate that Scheibe knew every great musician in all countries, that way we can be very sure about a unified baroque style
@ALRAesurrection Salix Alba, Pinus Strobus... Man's labels to converse. As such.. they refer to things that were living before us and will after us; and just as one may find 'impressionism' in 'medieval' Japanese art, one has always been able to find 'romanticism' in baroque' or vice versa... as they are ideas without physical bounds. Happily Mr. Kees forgot to 'Scheibe' himself, and instead, played the only way authentic that owns infinite ways in any era... as he saw it.
@ALRAesurrection No, Caro Professore: Whatever is in the essays cannot be known - not even by someone as profoundly gifted as you; for music cannot be conveyed by any other medium. We'll never know how Bach played, for he did
not record. All we can know is what we think Scheibe thought he heard... an inadequate & too subjective a thing. What we can know is that great artists like Caravaggio do not create according to essays - but the only way authentic possible... by their own judgement.
Dear Yahweh, you are confused as always by the old excuse: "We cannot know how they played in the past". The chronometre of Louliè (1693) expresses very clear tempi giusti and it was used by all baroque musicians, including JS Bach as written in the book Musical Lexicon by JG Walther, his direct cousin.
So we know perfectly which tempi Bach used and they were much, much faster than those by Kee. For authentic tempi and tactus of baroque era listen to Koopman.
An unspeakably sublime post -- wonderful pictures, composition, and performance.
VelikyRostov9 2 months ago
@VelikyRostov9 The beauty of this performance, is that Kee - as always - totally forgot that this is a baroque piece, totally forgot about all the baroque essays he never read and turned it into a perfect romantic interpretation, with romantic tempi, romantic rhetoric, romantic tactus, romantic rubato, romantic everything: like the typical modern zoom in and zoom out on the little details of a painting, instead of admiring the entire masterpiece as an unicum.
ALRAesurrection 2 months ago
@ALRAesurrection Well said.
ZoeEGrace 2 months ago
@ALRAesurrection It's fortunate that the Baroque composers didn't know about the romantic period; or else they wouldn't have been able to play baroque music. Now that we know about the romantic period, instead of playing baroque music with romance, we must play baroque music not as we might have, but in a manner only to confirm what we think Romantic wouldn't be. It's fortunate that Scheibe knew every great musician in all countries, that way we can be very sure about a unified baroque style
VelikyRostov9 2 months ago
@VelikyRostov9
I am glad that you know the name " Scheibe ", probably you’ve learnt it from my past comments... you were really good to have copied it correctly...
ALRAesurrection 2 months ago
@ALRAesurrection Salix Alba, Pinus Strobus... Man's labels to converse. As such.. they refer to things that were living before us and will after us; and just as one may find 'impressionism' in 'medieval' Japanese art, one has always been able to find 'romanticism' in baroque' or vice versa... as they are ideas without physical bounds. Happily Mr. Kees forgot to 'Scheibe' himself, and instead, played the only way authentic that owns infinite ways in any era... as he saw it.
VelikyRostov9 1 month ago
@VelikyRostov9
Kee is totally legitimate to play as he does, no one will attack him for having totally forgotten about tempi giusti and correct speed.
The important thing is to know that he decided to ignore what is written in historical essays.
ALRAesurrection 1 month ago
@ALRAesurrection No, Caro Professore: Whatever is in the essays cannot be known - not even by someone as profoundly gifted as you; for music cannot be conveyed by any other medium. We'll never know how Bach played, for he did
not record. All we can know is what we think Scheibe thought he heard... an inadequate & too subjective a thing. What we can know is that great artists like Caravaggio do not create according to essays - but the only way authentic possible... by their own judgement.
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Dear Yahweh, you are confused as always by the old excuse: "We cannot know how they played in the past". The chronometre of Louliè (1693) expresses very clear tempi giusti and it was used by all baroque musicians, including JS Bach as written in the book Musical Lexicon by JG Walther, his direct cousin.
So we know perfectly which tempi Bach used and they were much, much faster than those by Kee. For authentic tempi and tactus of baroque era listen to Koopman.
ALRAesurrection 3 weeks ago
Do we know who did the aesthetics of this organ? I absolutely adore the dark umber- dark khaki green and mustard gold scheme...
Totma11 10 months ago
@Totma11 Arp Schnitger (father) for the pedal towers and Frans Caspar Schnitger (son) plus Albert Antonius Hinsz (his pupil) for all the rest.
ALRAesurrection 10 months ago
Thanks for this wonderful recording :)
Egestus18 1 year ago