do you speak greek or hebrew thin not so which mans your american white washed christianity lied to you your jerry falwell christianity you know nothing god isn't god's name it's yah hebrew get it american christianlet me guess you go sit in the pew and the only sermon you can hear or preach on is gay's your bible lies to you get the truth cause you are way behind when you can show mw the actual translation os sodom and homo in the org translation let me know it's a sin to add to the word
okay it is education time for the dum american christian here's the clue the english lauguage is only a little over 500 years old jesus means zesus greek not hebrew h and s aren't hebrew nor greek you idiot so lol at your lack of history yahushua is his name he is a jew not anglo saxon sodomy isn't a real word it doesn't translate back to hebrew and i am messianic so you are barkin the wrong tree the next thing homosexual isn't greek nor hebrew and i don't speak greek i am american
Dudes, being gay is normal. It's not evil. It's not good. It just is. Do you read your own comments? Do you see the fruits of the Spirit in your words? You're making a mountain of a mole hill, straining a gnat and swallowing a camel. You 're just adding to the suffering we deal with from a society that is mentally sick. We are not sick.that's a projection of delusion. Why we have to suffer because of your unbelief like God can't deal with us as we are
It is clearly stated that homosexuality is wrong in the bible. If you are born that way it is a generational curse if you are converted it is demonic from Satan. God does not make homosexuals the devil and curses do. So you are spreading bullshit and evil doctrine trying to lie to others. Uh someone else messaged me and I was agreeing homosexuality is wrong you must have misunderstood me i never said it was right.
@DarkCode no it isn't the english bible claims it's wrong not the hebrew bible and the devil can't give life only god there is gayness in nature are you saying god made an error it seems that if god would have spared sodom and gorramorrah for the sake of 10 then i would say that god could care less in gensis 18 he say's he will spare both cities the next thing eziekel 16 god speaks to the real reasons he destroyed both cities not becasue of gays i can assure you of that
@ElectricElohim That's liberal propaganda. All bibles in every language are the same and the hebrew and greek bibles say the same thing. Where do you think the term Sodomy came from? Idiot lol Homosexuality is an abomination and that's not the only place that mentions how wrong homosexuality is. There are atleast 5 other passages. It's an abomination.
@DarkCode Homosexuality isn't mentioned anywhere in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, in fact it isn't mentioned in the Book of Genesis at all. You are, however, correct that homosexual sex is referred to as an abomination in other books of the Bible (whether they were all translated correctly or not is up for debate).
@adean2 The storry of sodom and Gomorrah is bout homosexuals you idiot how many times must i repeat this. That's where the name Sodomy came from. What part of that don't you understand? As far as the book of Genesis it said God created Man and a woman from his Rib. God didn't create a Man and say have sex with another man or vice versa. And there are more passages about homosexuality than previously i found. I got another one where it says man should not dress like a woman and vice versa. s
@DarkCode Genesis does not mention God's stance on homosexuality so obviously it doesn't say anything about God creating a Man to have sex with other men. I agree with you that homosexual sex is clearly an abomination in the Bible, but you need to re-read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes, sodomy is from the word Sodom because so many people (like yourself) assume homosexuality is referenced in the story, but you simply have to read it to realize that it isn't.
@adean2 Genesis doesn't have to mention anything by default it is one Man and one Woman not two men or two women. Any fool with half a brain can tell you that. If that was the only thing that proved God was against homosexuality you might have a slight argument but there are plenty of clear and concise passages that say homosexuality is an abomination. And you following some stupid argument left wingers make about the story of Sodom doesn't make it true. Read it. It is about Sodomy period.
@ElectricElohim Sodomy came from Sodom and Gomorrah must I keep repeating myself? There are other passages that prove homosexuality is an abomination without a doubt. Stop babbling.
@DarkCode I've read that part of the bible. Nowhere did it say that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality in general. It was homosexual AND heterosexual rape and promiscuity that caused their destruction. Homosexuality in general is not immoral. Rape, ritual sex, ect is whether it involves homosexuality OR heterosexuality.
@djxthexmonferno You are an uneducated moron. The bible is clear about the abomination of homosexuality and yes Sodom and Gomorrah was about homosexuality which is why Sodomy is used to describe anal sex. You need to open up the Bible and stop being the devils pawn.
@DarkCode Uhh wow, how very Christian of you to full on bash me for my beliefs. Who's being the devil's pawn here? Anyway, I HAVE opened the bible, I HAVE read it, and I have found that in almost every version the wording changes slightly. If you're a bible-thumper, fine. But I accept the fact that the bible was written a LONG time ago, gone through several translations, interpretations, ect. Human error occurred somewhere along those lines and the abominations line is a PROVEN mistranslation.
@djxthexmonferno Bash you for what believes? Satan's beliefs? Gladly i'll do it till Armageddon. What you are referring to is the translations that have contaminated it. I don't agree with that. The only true version is the Old King James because it was the only one were blood was shed to protect it and it has things that the other does not. Being a Conservative Pentecostal/Evangelical Christian who has True Faith is not thumping. If anything liberals thumb gay crap all the time.
@djxthexmonferno Its not a matter of my beliefs its a matter of what God commands in the Bible. If anything you do is not allowed according to what God says then yes its of Satan for all that is not God is of Satan. Specially Homosexuality.
@DarkCode ...I rest my case. xP So you're saying you being extremely judgmental, which correct me if I'm wrong but the Bible states that is NOT your place to do, is being the perfect God-fearing/following Christian? Interesting. I guess you're also saying that owning slaves is okay (hey, it says so in the Bible) and having multiple wives (see: Solomon) is also okay. Damn, society is screwed.
@djxthexmonferno Saying that what matters is what God commands in the Bible is not judgemental. In order to rest your case you have to have one to begin with an you have none lol. It does not say its ok to own slaves lol that's liberal propaganda. Again you talk out of your ass without providing any proof. Show me the passage. LOL Solomon. Is that all you got? Obviously your arguments are as weak as your mind.
@djxthexmonferno No there are more than 6 references to homosexuality so even if one or 2 are in question not all are in question. The bible is clear about homosexuality being wrong and forbidden.
@DarkCode -facepalm- There may be references to it, but have you read the CONTEXT?! There are "immoral" sexual practices in heterosexuality just as there are in homosexuality. Not to mention the whole "homosexuality is bad" thing may've made sense back in that time period because the world wasn't overpopulated and procreation was a bigger concern. Look around. Procreation is NOT something we need right now. *pokes the millions of kids without homes*
@LPATWILLFILM You are so full of fear, loathing, and anger. I am deeply worried about you. I hope you can come to terms with your spiritual and emotional confusion as soon as possible, and stop hiding your naked hatred behind scripture. You forget that the Word is transparent. You only expose yourself when you try to hide behind it.
Finally, JESUS CHRIST IS A KEEPER! He can KEEP anybody from anything... But, the "thing" is... You gotta want to be KEPT! And, these men THINK they are "Survivors" but unfortunately, they are not. They have just simply turned to themselves as being the "god" of their own life to do their "own will." There are people whom have SUCCESSFULLY LEFT HOMOSEXUALITY, but that is because they GOT SERIOUS WITH GOD and DESIRE HIM MORE THAN THEIR OWN DESIRES. They wanted 2 be KEPT and GOD KEEPS THEM!
And, this WORLD is so FAKE, so FLEETING, so TEMPORAL. And, yet to BE YOURSELF, what will it PROFIT you on the other side? One thing is for sure it is another side. Because we get to leave this place, ALL OF US -- STRAIGHT & GAY sooner or later. And, what does it profit any man to LOSE HIS SOUL? OR what will a MAN GIVE IN EXCHANGE for his soul? My goodness! It is sooooo NOT worth HAVING YOUR OWN WILL TO BE DONE in this life. That is why those whom LIVE AT THE FEET OF THE CROSS we know...
If THE LORD JESUS CHRIST RIGHT NOW SPOKE FROM HEAVEN AND SAID HETEROSEXUALITY WAS NOT HIS WILL... My prayer would be LORD TAKE IT FROM ME! Because NOTHING, no relationship, no sexual feeling, no sex act, no money, no food, no position, no job, no friend, no spouse, no family member, not even YOURSELF is WORTH losing your soul and NONE of these things are WORTHY in comparison to GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT. I am AMAZED how MOST people are so wrapped up in THIS WORLD...
That is why JESUS CHRIST clearly stated: HIS WALK IS NARROW and FEW TRAVEL with HIM. Yeah, there are a LOT OF FOLKS fat mouthing about how they LOVE JESUS and FOLLOW HIM... Really? Check The Walk. These men are very SAD to me, because they have CHOSEN to CONTINUE in their OWN FLESH and OWN WAY in this very short, temporal life to do what? LOSE THEIR SOUL? Just to have THEIR LIFE here? It aint worth it kids! We're only here for a minute. NOTHING HERE is WORTH YOUR SOUL GAY OR NOT!
A TRUE WALK WITH CHRIST JESUS is about SACRIFICE! If you are a GLUTTON, sacrifice the FOOD. If you are a DRUNK, sacrifice the DRINK. If you are a WHORE, sacrifice the PROMISCUITY. You are a CHEAT, sacrifice the ADULTERY. If you are a PORN ADDICT / MASTURBATOR, sacrifice the PERVERSION. If you are a HOMOSEXUAL, sacrifice your LOVERS. That is what it means to "Take up your CROSS and FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST." These guys LOVE themselves MORE than THE CROSS OF SACRIFICE. MORE THAN JESUS CHRIST.
So he basically is back to being a pawn of Satan who is fooled into believing God made him that way wow poor slap is bound for hell along with the rest of you idiots
DarkCode, The good Lord has always created, loved & kept His gay children right here on His planet, as part of His divine plan. Sadly, the devil permeates those with weak minds, and deludes you into thinking that being gay, being the way God makes you, could be a "perversion". Satan not only fools you, but uses you to spread immoral bigotry into the world, in hopes of making others doubt God & condemn His decisions to make some of His children gay. I hope you can one day see the light & repent.
@GodCreatesGays2 SIN CREATES GAYS. SIN CREATES STRIPPERS. SIN CREATES ADULTERERS. SIN CREATES FORNICATORS. SIN CREATES PORNOGRAPHY. SIN CREATES SEXUAL INFIDELITY. SIN CREATES MASTURBATION. Any and all SEXUAL DEVIANCE --- SIN CREATES. Do not let your reprobate and deceived blasphemies lay such to the CHARGE OF GOD. You speak of REPENT, but JESUS CHRIST is THE ONE who CALLS MEN UNTO REPENTANCE and JESUS REMINDED THE PEOPLE - GOD CREATED ONLY MALE & FEMALE TO BE ONE FLESH. GET TRUTH.
Sorry, I don't agree with you that Our Lord, the Creator of all things in heaven & earth, the One who creates, loves & keeps His gay children right here on His planet is "sin". The Lord is the opposite of sin. The devil contaminates those of you with weak minds, and convinces you that God makes mistakes when He creates His gay children, but of course, that simply Satan's using you to undermine the Lord. Don't be fooled by evil any longer. Repent & reject Satan.
@GodCreatesGays2 And, who is LORD to you? I notice you say "Lord, Lord" but JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF says that many will say "Lord, Lord" and He will SAY: "Depart from me ye worker of iniquity, I know you not."
@DarkCode You know what I found SAD in this man's "testimony" that he stressed HIMSELF more than he stressed GOD. For instance, he says, "I wanted to LOVE MYSELF, BE LOVED, BE ACCEPTED (by others)..." But, really it is ONLY when we recognize we should want to "LOVE GOD" and be "ACCEPTABLE TO GOD." That is where the mystery of SALVATION truly is found. This MAN LOVES HIMSELF AND HIS OWN WAY more than HE LOVES JESUS CHRIST & THE WAY OF GOD THE FATHER. That is the epitome of SIN.
@DarkCode It's like this guy whole thing is he wants to DO HIS OWN THING and NOT SACRIFICE HIS WAYS for THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. The Lord Jesus Christ tells us plainly: We are to be a LIVING SACRIFICE. Which means, whatever it is that is in your life that is DISPLEASING TO GOD, we are to "mortify the deeds of our flesh (carnal nature)." That means if one is Homosexual, they have to LOVE GOD'S WAY ABOVE THEIR OWN WAY and ACCEPT HIS TRUTH more than their "own truth" to be redeemed.
@DarkCode But, most do not want to do that, because they LOVE THE DEEDS OF THEIR FLESH, they love their lusts and carnal desires. And, you are CORRECT if the Homosexual does NOT lay aside the "weight" that so "easily beset them" theyare going to fool around and open their eyes up in HELL, when they do NOT have to! NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVING GOD. NOT EVEN ONE'S OWN LIFE. NOT ONE'S SEX LIFE. NOT ANYTHING. That's why JESUS said to FIND LIFE IN HIM, you MUST HATE YOUR OWN LIFE.
@DarkCode Homosexuals like this so-called "Ex-Gay Survivor" sadly LOVE THEIR LIFE and LOVE THEIR SEXUAL DESIRES more than they LOVE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, but guess what? Any man that "SAVES HIS OWN LIFE" (like these Ex-Gay Survivors -- They have "saved their own lives") will LOSE IT." But, any man that LOSES HIS LIFE (those that "be living sacrifice for the Kingdom of Christ Jesus) FOR HIS SAKE, will surely FIND IT." These guys are so SAD and SATAN is deceiving these boys straight to hell!
LPAT rages, "Homosexuals...LOVE THEIR LIFE & LOVE THEIR SEXUAL DESIRES more than they LOVE THE LORD"
The educated & rational among us know that by accepting themselves the way God made them, accepting themselves as gay, these men are actually honoring the Lord & His decisions for them. Ignorant bigots, blinded by Satan, fall for the myth that being gay is a "sin", but the Lord does NOT make mistakes when He creates His gay children. You need to reject the devil & accept God into your life.
BEING GAY IS NOT SOME DISEASE! why cant people see that society's hate of gays causes young teenagers to kill themselves and become depressed. its absolutely disgusting
There are NO CONVERSIONS. ZER0. EXODUS are LIARS. It's that simple. And their victims are all in "wishful thinking brainwash" mode. The FACT is that +63% of the population has some degree of same gender attraction. Yeah: most people are selectively BIsexual! As part of an explosively growing group of men called g0ys (spelled w. a zer0 --G00GLE us), we realize that what MEN want universally is to be loved & RESPECTED by other men (A goal the gAy men's movement & "Christians" fail miserably at)!
i think this quote from The Princess Bride speaks volumes about the 'promise' of ex-gay groups and to the comments on this video - "life is pain...anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something." churches are like corporations. they should be treated as such and taxed.
@Blaquebull That is not the messsage of this story. These gay people believed that there was something wrong with them and therefore went to these ministries to convert them back to straight people.
It only ended up in more confusion, depression until they realized that being "gay" is who they are. Now they are at peace with themselves and I think God would want that for us too.
hello pers: what your sayin is i hope god sends me to hell. wow, your a real good christian. you have no idea about judgement. what makes you so special to know this and i do not ? give me evidence that you absolutely know
@nonthiestnc I'm a Nymphomaniac and a Christian if God didn't want me to have sex all the time and with every guy that wants me, why did he make me this way? By acting on my feelings, I'm being true to myself. Why should I go to hell?
@nonthiestnc I absolutely know that we all are going to leave this world. And, if you aint right, when you get over on the other side its too late to get right. But, now if you believe there is NOTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE, then you best hope that you are 100% ABSOLUTELY IN THE KNOW -- If you are, then cool beans, rock out.. You lived life, did your damn thing and it works out when you leave here. But, if you are WRONG, well, again for YOUR SAKE, I hope you are RIGHT! If not, YOUR SOUL IS LOST.
@nonthiestnc I absolutely know that we all are going to leave this world. And, if you aint right, when you get over on the other side its too late to get right. But, now if you believe there is NOTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE, then you best hope that you are 100% ABSOLUTELY IN THE KNOW -- If you are, then cool beans, rock out.. You lived life, did your damn thing and it works out when you leave here. But, if you are WRONG, well, again for YOUR SAKE, I hope you are RIGHT! If not, YOUR SOUL IS LOST.
All I cam say is that I am so very sorry that there people misrepresented the real love of God which is unconditional. He loves the sinner but doesn't love the sin. I as a human struggle with my own sin every day and am far from perfect but I do know where my hope help and peace comes from and I truly pray that everyone who reads this will accept my apology for all of the people who misrepresent Christ's love. Get to know God, the REAL God and you won't regret it! Bless you all!
hello super: i hope you do pray for all of us. were living a good life while you seem to fear this unseen sky wizard. give me 3 examples of answered prayers ? legit, verifiable, date, time, written and outcome of these prayers.
as with gaythiest, iam proud that i broke free this nonsense sheep herd mentality of religion. it does destroy lives in the name of some sky wizard. how silly is that. go live a happy, healthy, guilt free lives
Wow, I went through a Desert Stream Seminar in 1989 when I was 18 and there was a real creepy Desert Stream guy there...and I bet it was the guy you had a problem with. anyway Jaylen it's Mike from myspace if you see this.
Yes, we should be surprised because a gay person is NOT a pedophile. Straight people don't turn to molesting children when denied sex - neither do gay people. Only pedophiles do that.
@nicksum29 But, many whom have been molested by pedophiles have become Homosexuals/Lesbians and/OR have wrestled with Sexual Identity and Same-Sex Attraction. That is a FACT. While I truly believe MOST HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT PEDOPHILES, like MOST HETEROSEXUALS ARE NOT PEDOPHILES, and yet...
While Pedophiles may NOT be Gay, but their heinous acts on many children have caused many of those children to deal with issues of Homosexuality. That is a FACT. No denying and getting around TRUTH.
LPAT rants, "many whom have been molested by pedophiles have become Homosexuals/Lesbians "
Um, no. That's like claiming that heterosexuality can be caused by getting raped by your opposite-gender parent. Such irrational hysteria is easily washed away via education, enlightenment, and ...sanity.
"That is a FACT. No denying and getting around TRUTH."
You, yourself, have successfully avoided it thus far.
@GodCreatesGays2 Uh uh uh... Not so fast buddy! I asked you STRAIGHT UP... You riddle your words with "LORD... LORD..." And, I asked you DIRECTLY: "Who is "LORD" to you?" Is THE LORD JESUS CHRIST "your Lord?"
Why are you "unsuccesfully avoiding" my question ON THIS? You are answering a PM that I did NOT even send to you and neither concerns you or our conversation, rather than answer the ONE that I DIRECTLY sent to you... WHY? What's really going on? Why can't you ANSWER who is LORD?
LPAT bellows, ""Who is "LORD" to you?" Is THE LORD JESUS CHRIST "your Lord?"
As would be clear to rational, coherent readers, I was referring to God, the Father in Heaven, the Creator of all things in heaven and earth, including homosexuals. I hope this clears up at least a tiny part of your abject confusion.
"You are answering a PM that I did NOT even send to you"
Not in the realm of reality, where the rest of us function, I'm not.
@LPATWILLFILM Please watch the youtube vid: "Protect the children - and mean it." If we ignore the real villains, we risk endangering our children. Put it this way: If a lesbian girl is raped by a man - would that not also damage her sexual identity, which is lesbian. You need to be very careful when talking in black and white. Sexuality is a very VERY variable thing.
@nicksum29 What a minute, you are 100%CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. In one breath you say that Homosexuals CAN NOT CHANGE (which is really a LIE that many are deceived to believe, Sexuality and Sexual "appetite" is the one of the easiest things God can FIX n one's life, when one is ready to get serious with GOD and dedicate themselves to become what the Lord Jesus Christ says: "A Living Sacrifice.") but, anyway, you then turn right around & say Sexuality is a "VARIABLE." Can't have it both ways! :)
@nicksum29 And, besides this foolishness of folks being "BORN GAY" is pure ridiculous! When has a test been performed on a NEWBORN to determine that, that NEWBORN baby was a LESBIAN GIRL or a GAY BOY? You guys believe the SUBLIME to "justify" rebellious works. But, let's go with the sublime and "buy into this notion" that folks are BORN GAY, OK... So, still NO EXCUSE to STAY GAY, because JESUS CHRIST still calls out to the Homosexual (as unto ALL US SINNERS): "You must be BORN AGAIN."
@LPATWILLFILM I'm not sure why you are so passionate about this subject, and even more surprised that you assume all the world is Christian. I did not say sexuality is unchangeable. Gay men have been marrying straight women for centuries, and lesbians have been marrying straight men. The untold stories of all these oceans of tears are yet to be told. Straight men in prison have good, satisfying sex with each other (not only rape occurs in jail). Come visit my family in Taiwan.
@nicksum29 Oh no my friend... Opposite, I KNOW MOST OF THE WORLD IS NOT CHRISTIAN. Even MOST so-called "Christians" are NOT CHRISTIAN. To be a TRUE CHRISTIAN means to SACRIFICE whatever that " SIN thing" is that gets in the way of PURE WORSHIP and TRUE FELLOWSHIP with THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and THE FATHER. And, MOST CHRISTIANS are not willing to "give up" those things, that is why Jesus Christ says HIS WAY IS NARROW and FEW WALK WITH HIM. THE WORLD IS EVIDENT THAT MOST PEOPLE REJECT JESUS.
@nicksum29 There is no such thing as STRAIGHT or GAY. See, that is where I know all of you guys are deceived by HOGWASH and BRAINWASHED. There are ONLY PEOPLE. There are ONLY SOULS. And, there are those SOULS that LIVE UNTO GOD and IN ACCORDANCE TO HIS WILL. And, then there are those SOULS that LIVE UNTO THEMSELVES and IN ACCORDANCE TO THEIR OWN WILL. That's the only difference.
@nicksum29 Those that CHOOSE TO CONTINUE to remain in SAME-SEX activity and relationships are LIVING UNTO THEMSELVES and IN ACCORDANCE TO THEIR OWN WILLS. For it is NOT THE WILL OF GOD that SAME-SEX should be rendered as "ONE FLESH." That is NOT HIS WILL. And, don't say, well why are GAY people still here? Well, why are Strippers, Adulterers, Fornicators, Porn-Stars, Rapists, Pedophiles, Masturbators, Thieves, Robbers, Thugs, Drugs, Gangs, Hookers, etc are STILL HERE? That is bcuz the WORLD
@nicksum29 The WORLD is FULL OF SIN. We are BORN IN SIN. That is why, I used the analogy earlier, let's go with the idea that people are supposedly BORN GAY, well, then if such should be the case, there is NO EXCUSE to STAY THAT WAY. A Homosexual must be BORN AGAIN. So, even if we can NOT CHOOSE "who we are" we STILL HAVE THE POWER TO CHOOSE to NOT "walk" in "the way" of "who we are." GOD GIVES EVERY PERSON THE POWER TO CHANGE TO DO HIS WILL. But, you gotta WANT THAT DEEP DOWN.
@nicksum29 I hear these guys saying they wanted to be LOVED, ACCEPTED and it is clear, they NEVER said, you know what? I loved being GAY. I loved dealing with MEN. But, you know what? If GOD says it is NOT HIS WILL, forget what I "love" OR "like" I WANT TO LOVE GOD MORE THAN THAT. I WANT TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO GOD more than find ACCEPTANCE with others or even myself. These guys were getting DEPRESSED, because they DEEP DOWN did NOT DESIRE GOD. They DESIRED TO "FIT IN."
@nicksum29 But, the KINGDOM OF GOD does NOT work that way. For fact, TO FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST means to absolutely NOT FIT IN. It means to SACRIFICE those things that your little flesh just LOVES and DESIRES and flips out over. It means to DENY ONE'S SELF. It means to CARRY A CROSS. It means to LOSE YOUR LIFE (i.e., "Carnal life") for THE SAKE OF JESUS CHRIST. See folks hate to GIVE UP their deeds, but that then means that is an IDOL in your life. These guys IDOLIZE their SEXUALITY.
@LPATWILLFILM No, it means there are two people who, in this bleak and lonely world, can cuddle together for comfort, and know that nasty little men who pervert beautiful books, are not going to drag them out screaming, rape them into being " straight" and then say that The Bible told them to do it. this happens in my homeland every day - it's called "corrective rape". Like it or not, this is the result of YOUR kind of THINKING in THIS regard. We do not live in your theoretical realms.
@nicksum29 Where does the Bible say to RAPE A MAN INTO BEING STRAIGHT? See, you guys always love to put DUMB SINFUL STUFF on THE BIBLE and on GOD. But, if GOD says he HATES two men "becoming one flesh" ... THINK! He HATES two men becoming "one flesh!" Regardless of the SINFUL EXCUSE these wackos in your country are saying. THINK. But, again you are just like MOST PEOPLE you only think about your LIFE in this WORLD. But, you are going to LEAVE THIS WORLD dude.
@LPATWILLFILM I was referring to the rape of lesbians in my country - perpetrated by straight men who, spurred on by religion, have taken up this new and delightful hobby. But the fact that you assume I am a man reveals much about your true agenda, and your own sexual fears.
@nicksum29 First of all, GOD DOES NOT ADVOCATE THE RAPING OF WOMEN. If you think so... LOOK INTO THE BIBLE where God whom loved David, but yet brought JUDGMENT AGAINST DAVID'S HOUSE because why? One of David's sons RAPED his sister. God HATES that! GOD LOVES WOMEN. JESUS CHRIST always gave example upon example of LOVE and COMPASSION toward WOMEN. So, if these wackos are raping Lesbians, THINK! They are NOT FOLLOWING THE STEPS OF THE BIBLE NOR JESUS CHRIST! Please **T-H-I-N-K**
The OT has some very... well... compromising passages re. the treatment of women. YOU, however are actively promoting such acts by supporting anti sexuality attitudes. People far more foolish than you, and often illiterate, take your attitude to mean something far worse than it does. There is no two ways about it. You, and those like you, are actively and perversely perpetrating crimes against defenceless women and children who happen to be gay. It is you who are the abomination, not us.
@nicksum29 Now the OT does NOT have compromising passages of treating women. Folks need to UNDERSTAND the writing of THE BIBLE it was not just simply written to "show you" what GOD'S DESIRE is for Humanity, but it was also written to "show the degradation; sin state" of Humanity. How can we know and understand the NEED & GIFT OF GOD without "seeing" and "understanding" the RIDICULOUS STATE that man has been in (and still in) due to SIN? The BIBLE shows vignettes of MAN'S DOING & GOD'S DOING.
@nicksum29 Darling, now you assume... I TOO AM WOMAN! :) So, you see you have prejudged that "I and those like me are perpetrating crimes against defenseless women and children..." LOL!!! :) Girlfriend, cry me a river! The BIBLE is full of AWESOME examples of GLORIOUS WOMEN OF GOD, that were POWERFUL and AMAZING! And, THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD was WITH THEM. Ever heard of DEBORAH? ESTHER? RUTH? NAOMI? These girls were bad chicks! :) don't give me that garbage that GOD/BIBLE hates WOMEN.
@nicksum29 You will have MORE TIME after this WORLD than you will ever have in this WORLD. So, why live for this world? Or the things of this world? Or the things in this world? Cuddling and Comfort? What? You mean a MAN can NOT be cuddled and comforted in the arms of a woman? But, it is not about that. Let's get real and STOP playing games. This comes down to 100% S-E-X. Because a WOMAN can cuddle and comfort a MAN. Trust, it happens all the time! :) BUT... Homosexuals do NOT want
@nicksum29 Do not WANT the Love and Comfort of WOMAN. Why? Because it is not solely about that, now is it? Because if it was, then they could find that in a Woman. But, anatomically and sexually a WOMAN can NOT sexually penetrate. And a man whose mind is into being penetrated, and that's a TURN ON to him, will NOT find desire for woman. So, this is NOT about Love, Cuddles and Comfort. Women can certainly do that. It is about SEX. And, the IDOLIZATION of SEXUALITY. This is SEX WORSHIP.
@nicksum29 I have so much RESPECT for Homosexuals who just do NOT PLAY GAMES as to why they "do" what they do! There is a female US athelete who "came out" a few years back and I simply cheered the fact that she was like, "You know what? I was NOT BORN lesbian, I simply LOVE WOMEN and I CHOOSE to LOVE WOMEN... This is MY CHOICE and what I CHOOSE." I was like FINALLY! A Homosexual who is REAL ENOUGH to be a GROWN UP and OWN HER LIFE! Cheers to this lady! It is such Bull Crap when Gays...
@nicksum29 It is such Bull Crap when Gays come with all of these "woe is me, I can't help it, I cant choose, its not my choice, I didnt ask to be this way, I was made this way, I cant control myself, I see the same-sex and I just lose it, I am a prisoner of my own sexuality, I am forced to have sex with my same gender, my genetics are like this, bah... sniff... sniff... bah." BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Stop playing games. If you are Homosexual stop giving EXCUSES and MAN UP and OWN IT!
@nicksum29 Owning it is NOT giving all the excuses and references and lies as to WHY one likes to be ONE FLESH with their gender. Owning it is doing just what that lady did! Being REAL with herself that she simply digs chicks! Period. No excuse. No crying. OK. NOW... Her SIN & REBELLION is STILL THE SAME as the Gay with execuse, but you know what? GOD WILL HAVE MORE PATIENCE WITH HER than someone totally self-medicating and self-deceiving themselves (and others) why they are Homosexual.
This guy gave into the devil and lost his Faith in Jesus that's why failed and now he believes the very evil he was trying to be free from. He accept satan. So sad.
@nicksum29 You said oh God. So you admit you worship Satan? just want to be clear on that. Oh no don't call me a little troll you are hurting my feeling lol how old are you heathen? Go jump off a bridge.
Well, why not let people just be themselves?
Why are some people concerned about someone's sexuality (unless one wants to take part in it, that's my point)?
Live and let live.
Unless one is a porn star, sex should be a private thing.
Too much prying into makes it less interesting than it really is (at least for most people).
Let's stop judging and debasing people and let's live our lives.
To those who judge and debase:
DON'T YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO?
Mottahead 7 months ago
There is no such creature as an Ex-Gay. This is complete Bullshit.
waynegreer72 8 months ago 2
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aixelsydyslexia 9 months ago
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aixelsydyslexia 9 months ago
do you speak greek or hebrew thin not so which mans your american white washed christianity lied to you your jerry falwell christianity you know nothing god isn't god's name it's yah hebrew get it american christianlet me guess you go sit in the pew and the only sermon you can hear or preach on is gay's your bible lies to you get the truth cause you are way behind when you can show mw the actual translation os sodom and homo in the org translation let me know it's a sin to add to the word
ElectricElohim 9 months ago
okay it is education time for the dum american christian here's the clue the english lauguage is only a little over 500 years old jesus means zesus greek not hebrew h and s aren't hebrew nor greek you idiot so lol at your lack of history yahushua is his name he is a jew not anglo saxon sodomy isn't a real word it doesn't translate back to hebrew and i am messianic so you are barkin the wrong tree the next thing homosexual isn't greek nor hebrew and i don't speak greek i am american
ElectricElohim 9 months ago
Dudes, being gay is normal. It's not evil. It's not good. It just is. Do you read your own comments? Do you see the fruits of the Spirit in your words? You're making a mountain of a mole hill, straining a gnat and swallowing a camel. You 're just adding to the suffering we deal with from a society that is mentally sick. We are not sick.that's a projection of delusion. Why we have to suffer because of your unbelief like God can't deal with us as we are
aixelsydyslexia 10 months ago
@aixelsydyslexia It is Satanic. You are adding to the suffering of others by condoning it and not accepting the fact the devil is behind it.
DarkCode 9 months ago
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aixelsydyslexia 9 months ago
Godcreatesgays you are one sick individual.
It is clearly stated that homosexuality is wrong in the bible. If you are born that way it is a generational curse if you are converted it is demonic from Satan. God does not make homosexuals the devil and curses do. So you are spreading bullshit and evil doctrine trying to lie to others. Uh someone else messaged me and I was agreeing homosexuality is wrong you must have misunderstood me i never said it was right.
DarkCode 10 months ago
@DarkCode no it isn't the english bible claims it's wrong not the hebrew bible and the devil can't give life only god there is gayness in nature are you saying god made an error it seems that if god would have spared sodom and gorramorrah for the sake of 10 then i would say that god could care less in gensis 18 he say's he will spare both cities the next thing eziekel 16 god speaks to the real reasons he destroyed both cities not becasue of gays i can assure you of that
ElectricElohim 9 months ago
@ElectricElohim That's liberal propaganda. All bibles in every language are the same and the hebrew and greek bibles say the same thing. Where do you think the term Sodomy came from? Idiot lol Homosexuality is an abomination and that's not the only place that mentions how wrong homosexuality is. There are atleast 5 other passages. It's an abomination.
DarkCode 9 months ago
@DarkCode Homosexuality isn't mentioned anywhere in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, in fact it isn't mentioned in the Book of Genesis at all. You are, however, correct that homosexual sex is referred to as an abomination in other books of the Bible (whether they were all translated correctly or not is up for debate).
adean2 6 months ago
@adean2 The storry of sodom and Gomorrah is bout homosexuals you idiot how many times must i repeat this. That's where the name Sodomy came from. What part of that don't you understand? As far as the book of Genesis it said God created Man and a woman from his Rib. God didn't create a Man and say have sex with another man or vice versa. And there are more passages about homosexuality than previously i found. I got another one where it says man should not dress like a woman and vice versa. s
DarkCode 6 months ago
@DarkCode Genesis does not mention God's stance on homosexuality so obviously it doesn't say anything about God creating a Man to have sex with other men. I agree with you that homosexual sex is clearly an abomination in the Bible, but you need to re-read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes, sodomy is from the word Sodom because so many people (like yourself) assume homosexuality is referenced in the story, but you simply have to read it to realize that it isn't.
adean2 6 months ago
@adean2 Genesis doesn't have to mention anything by default it is one Man and one Woman not two men or two women. Any fool with half a brain can tell you that. If that was the only thing that proved God was against homosexuality you might have a slight argument but there are plenty of clear and concise passages that say homosexuality is an abomination. And you following some stupid argument left wingers make about the story of Sodom doesn't make it true. Read it. It is about Sodomy period.
DarkCode 6 months ago
@ElectricElohim Sodomy came from Sodom and Gomorrah must I keep repeating myself? There are other passages that prove homosexuality is an abomination without a doubt. Stop babbling.
DarkCode 9 months ago
@DarkCode I've read that part of the bible. Nowhere did it say that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality in general. It was homosexual AND heterosexual rape and promiscuity that caused their destruction. Homosexuality in general is not immoral. Rape, ritual sex, ect is whether it involves homosexuality OR heterosexuality.
djxthexmonferno 8 months ago
@djxthexmonferno You are an uneducated moron. The bible is clear about the abomination of homosexuality and yes Sodom and Gomorrah was about homosexuality which is why Sodomy is used to describe anal sex. You need to open up the Bible and stop being the devils pawn.
DarkCode 8 months ago
@DarkCode Uhh wow, how very Christian of you to full on bash me for my beliefs. Who's being the devil's pawn here? Anyway, I HAVE opened the bible, I HAVE read it, and I have found that in almost every version the wording changes slightly. If you're a bible-thumper, fine. But I accept the fact that the bible was written a LONG time ago, gone through several translations, interpretations, ect. Human error occurred somewhere along those lines and the abominations line is a PROVEN mistranslation.
djxthexmonferno 8 months ago
@djxthexmonferno Bash you for what believes? Satan's beliefs? Gladly i'll do it till Armageddon. What you are referring to is the translations that have contaminated it. I don't agree with that. The only true version is the Old King James because it was the only one were blood was shed to protect it and it has things that the other does not. Being a Conservative Pentecostal/Evangelical Christian who has True Faith is not thumping. If anything liberals thumb gay crap all the time.
DarkCode 8 months ago
@DarkCode Yes, because whoever has beliefs that are a bit different from your's is following Satan. Mmmmhm. ~_~
djxthexmonferno 8 months ago
@djxthexmonferno Its not a matter of my beliefs its a matter of what God commands in the Bible. If anything you do is not allowed according to what God says then yes its of Satan for all that is not God is of Satan. Specially Homosexuality.
DarkCode 8 months ago
@DarkCode ...I rest my case. xP So you're saying you being extremely judgmental, which correct me if I'm wrong but the Bible states that is NOT your place to do, is being the perfect God-fearing/following Christian? Interesting. I guess you're also saying that owning slaves is okay (hey, it says so in the Bible) and having multiple wives (see: Solomon) is also okay. Damn, society is screwed.
djxthexmonferno 8 months ago
@djxthexmonferno Saying that what matters is what God commands in the Bible is not judgemental. In order to rest your case you have to have one to begin with an you have none lol. It does not say its ok to own slaves lol that's liberal propaganda. Again you talk out of your ass without providing any proof. Show me the passage. LOL Solomon. Is that all you got? Obviously your arguments are as weak as your mind.
DarkCode 8 months ago
@djxthexmonferno No there are more than 6 references to homosexuality so even if one or 2 are in question not all are in question. The bible is clear about homosexuality being wrong and forbidden.
DarkCode 8 months ago
@DarkCode -facepalm- There may be references to it, but have you read the CONTEXT?! There are "immoral" sexual practices in heterosexuality just as there are in homosexuality. Not to mention the whole "homosexuality is bad" thing may've made sense back in that time period because the world wasn't overpopulated and procreation was a bigger concern. Look around. Procreation is NOT something we need right now. *pokes the millions of kids without homes*
djxthexmonferno 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM You are so full of fear, loathing, and anger. I am deeply worried about you. I hope you can come to terms with your spiritual and emotional confusion as soon as possible, and stop hiding your naked hatred behind scripture. You forget that the Word is transparent. You only expose yourself when you try to hide behind it.
nicksum29 11 months ago
Finally, JESUS CHRIST IS A KEEPER! He can KEEP anybody from anything... But, the "thing" is... You gotta want to be KEPT! And, these men THINK they are "Survivors" but unfortunately, they are not. They have just simply turned to themselves as being the "god" of their own life to do their "own will." There are people whom have SUCCESSFULLY LEFT HOMOSEXUALITY, but that is because they GOT SERIOUS WITH GOD and DESIRE HIM MORE THAN THEIR OWN DESIRES. They wanted 2 be KEPT and GOD KEEPS THEM!
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
And, this WORLD is so FAKE, so FLEETING, so TEMPORAL. And, yet to BE YOURSELF, what will it PROFIT you on the other side? One thing is for sure it is another side. Because we get to leave this place, ALL OF US -- STRAIGHT & GAY sooner or later. And, what does it profit any man to LOSE HIS SOUL? OR what will a MAN GIVE IN EXCHANGE for his soul? My goodness! It is sooooo NOT worth HAVING YOUR OWN WILL TO BE DONE in this life. That is why those whom LIVE AT THE FEET OF THE CROSS we know...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
If THE LORD JESUS CHRIST RIGHT NOW SPOKE FROM HEAVEN AND SAID HETEROSEXUALITY WAS NOT HIS WILL... My prayer would be LORD TAKE IT FROM ME! Because NOTHING, no relationship, no sexual feeling, no sex act, no money, no food, no position, no job, no friend, no spouse, no family member, not even YOURSELF is WORTH losing your soul and NONE of these things are WORTHY in comparison to GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT. I am AMAZED how MOST people are so wrapped up in THIS WORLD...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
That is why JESUS CHRIST clearly stated: HIS WALK IS NARROW and FEW TRAVEL with HIM. Yeah, there are a LOT OF FOLKS fat mouthing about how they LOVE JESUS and FOLLOW HIM... Really? Check The Walk. These men are very SAD to me, because they have CHOSEN to CONTINUE in their OWN FLESH and OWN WAY in this very short, temporal life to do what? LOSE THEIR SOUL? Just to have THEIR LIFE here? It aint worth it kids! We're only here for a minute. NOTHING HERE is WORTH YOUR SOUL GAY OR NOT!
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
A TRUE WALK WITH CHRIST JESUS is about SACRIFICE! If you are a GLUTTON, sacrifice the FOOD. If you are a DRUNK, sacrifice the DRINK. If you are a WHORE, sacrifice the PROMISCUITY. You are a CHEAT, sacrifice the ADULTERY. If you are a PORN ADDICT / MASTURBATOR, sacrifice the PERVERSION. If you are a HOMOSEXUAL, sacrifice your LOVERS. That is what it means to "Take up your CROSS and FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST." These guys LOVE themselves MORE than THE CROSS OF SACRIFICE. MORE THAN JESUS CHRIST.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
So he basically is back to being a pawn of Satan who is fooled into believing God made him that way wow poor slap is bound for hell along with the rest of you idiots
DarkCode 1 year ago
DarkCode, The good Lord has always created, loved & kept His gay children right here on His planet, as part of His divine plan. Sadly, the devil permeates those with weak minds, and deludes you into thinking that being gay, being the way God makes you, could be a "perversion". Satan not only fools you, but uses you to spread immoral bigotry into the world, in hopes of making others doubt God & condemn His decisions to make some of His children gay. I hope you can one day see the light & repent.
GodCreatesGays2 11 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 SIN CREATES GAYS. SIN CREATES STRIPPERS. SIN CREATES ADULTERERS. SIN CREATES FORNICATORS. SIN CREATES PORNOGRAPHY. SIN CREATES SEXUAL INFIDELITY. SIN CREATES MASTURBATION. Any and all SEXUAL DEVIANCE --- SIN CREATES. Do not let your reprobate and deceived blasphemies lay such to the CHARGE OF GOD. You speak of REPENT, but JESUS CHRIST is THE ONE who CALLS MEN UNTO REPENTANCE and JESUS REMINDED THE PEOPLE - GOD CREATED ONLY MALE & FEMALE TO BE ONE FLESH. GET TRUTH.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
LPAT screams, "SIN CREATES GAYS."
Sorry, I don't agree with you that Our Lord, the Creator of all things in heaven & earth, the One who creates, loves & keeps His gay children right here on His planet is "sin". The Lord is the opposite of sin. The devil contaminates those of you with weak minds, and convinces you that God makes mistakes when He creates His gay children, but of course, that simply Satan's using you to undermine the Lord. Don't be fooled by evil any longer. Repent & reject Satan.
GodCreatesGays2 11 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 And, who is LORD to you? I notice you say "Lord, Lord" but JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF says that many will say "Lord, Lord" and He will SAY: "Depart from me ye worker of iniquity, I know you not."
Is your "Lord" THE LORD JESUS CHRIST?
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@DarkCode You know what I found SAD in this man's "testimony" that he stressed HIMSELF more than he stressed GOD. For instance, he says, "I wanted to LOVE MYSELF, BE LOVED, BE ACCEPTED (by others)..." But, really it is ONLY when we recognize we should want to "LOVE GOD" and be "ACCEPTABLE TO GOD." That is where the mystery of SALVATION truly is found. This MAN LOVES HIMSELF AND HIS OWN WAY more than HE LOVES JESUS CHRIST & THE WAY OF GOD THE FATHER. That is the epitome of SIN.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@DarkCode It's like this guy whole thing is he wants to DO HIS OWN THING and NOT SACRIFICE HIS WAYS for THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. The Lord Jesus Christ tells us plainly: We are to be a LIVING SACRIFICE. Which means, whatever it is that is in your life that is DISPLEASING TO GOD, we are to "mortify the deeds of our flesh (carnal nature)." That means if one is Homosexual, they have to LOVE GOD'S WAY ABOVE THEIR OWN WAY and ACCEPT HIS TRUTH more than their "own truth" to be redeemed.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@DarkCode But, most do not want to do that, because they LOVE THE DEEDS OF THEIR FLESH, they love their lusts and carnal desires. And, you are CORRECT if the Homosexual does NOT lay aside the "weight" that so "easily beset them" theyare going to fool around and open their eyes up in HELL, when they do NOT have to! NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVING GOD. NOT EVEN ONE'S OWN LIFE. NOT ONE'S SEX LIFE. NOT ANYTHING. That's why JESUS said to FIND LIFE IN HIM, you MUST HATE YOUR OWN LIFE.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@DarkCode Homosexuals like this so-called "Ex-Gay Survivor" sadly LOVE THEIR LIFE and LOVE THEIR SEXUAL DESIRES more than they LOVE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, but guess what? Any man that "SAVES HIS OWN LIFE" (like these Ex-Gay Survivors -- They have "saved their own lives") will LOSE IT." But, any man that LOSES HIS LIFE (those that "be living sacrifice for the Kingdom of Christ Jesus) FOR HIS SAKE, will surely FIND IT." These guys are so SAD and SATAN is deceiving these boys straight to hell!
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
LPAT rages, "Homosexuals...LOVE THEIR LIFE & LOVE THEIR SEXUAL DESIRES more than they LOVE THE LORD"
The educated & rational among us know that by accepting themselves the way God made them, accepting themselves as gay, these men are actually honoring the Lord & His decisions for them. Ignorant bigots, blinded by Satan, fall for the myth that being gay is a "sin", but the Lord does NOT make mistakes when He creates His gay children. You need to reject the devil & accept God into your life.
GodCreatesGays2 11 months ago
Do people even bother doing their own research or they just take what religious organizations say as truth?
The majority of pedophiles do not even have adult sexual orientations, i.e., heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual.
And out of those who do, namely regressed pedophiles, 98% engage in relationships with the opposite sex, i.e., are heterosexual.
A child is far safer with a "practicing" homosexual than some who is heterosexual or asexual.
be19nt86 1 year ago
BEING GAY IS NOT SOME DISEASE! why cant people see that society's hate of gays causes young teenagers to kill themselves and become depressed. its absolutely disgusting
tennisplaya8888 1 year ago
google Doe's Account.
Copachick 1 year ago
There are NO CONVERSIONS. ZER0. EXODUS are LIARS. It's that simple. And their victims are all in "wishful thinking brainwash" mode. The FACT is that +63% of the population has some degree of same gender attraction. Yeah: most people are selectively BIsexual! As part of an explosively growing group of men called g0ys (spelled w. a zer0 --G00GLE us), we realize that what MEN want universally is to be loved & RESPECTED by other men (A goal the gAy men's movement & "Christians" fail miserably at)!
g0ysorg 1 year ago
Thankyou for sharing your story!
dokidoki360 1 year ago
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coutureme1 1 year ago
i think this quote from The Princess Bride speaks volumes about the 'promise' of ex-gay groups and to the comments on this video - "life is pain...anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something." churches are like corporations. they should be treated as such and taxed.
FriderikusRex 2 years ago
is this video a joke..... ex gay....
TheTo45ter 2 years ago
@TheTo45ter
actually it's from a real "ex-gay center" found in Oregon.
The Portland Fellowship
hackensac 2 years ago
if you're ex-gay, how come you still
sound gay.
Blaquebull 2 years ago
@Blaquebull That is not the messsage of this story. These gay people believed that there was something wrong with them and therefore went to these ministries to convert them back to straight people.
It only ended up in more confusion, depression until they realized that being "gay" is who they are. Now they are at peace with themselves and I think God would want that for us too.
Jensagirl 1 year ago
nonthiestnc god will judge you!
persainpwner 2 years ago
hello pers: what your sayin is i hope god sends me to hell. wow, your a real good christian. you have no idea about judgement. what makes you so special to know this and i do not ? give me evidence that you absolutely know
nonthiestnc 2 years ago 5
@nonthiestnc I'm a Nymphomaniac and a Christian if God didn't want me to have sex all the time and with every guy that wants me, why did he make me this way? By acting on my feelings, I'm being true to myself. Why should I go to hell?
LoveisKing2010 1 year ago
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@nonthiestnc I absolutely know that we all are going to leave this world. And, if you aint right, when you get over on the other side its too late to get right. But, now if you believe there is NOTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE, then you best hope that you are 100% ABSOLUTELY IN THE KNOW -- If you are, then cool beans, rock out.. You lived life, did your damn thing and it works out when you leave here. But, if you are WRONG, well, again for YOUR SAKE, I hope you are RIGHT! If not, YOUR SOUL IS LOST.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
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@nonthiestnc I absolutely know that we all are going to leave this world. And, if you aint right, when you get over on the other side its too late to get right. But, now if you believe there is NOTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE, then you best hope that you are 100% ABSOLUTELY IN THE KNOW -- If you are, then cool beans, rock out.. You lived life, did your damn thing and it works out when you leave here. But, if you are WRONG, well, again for YOUR SAKE, I hope you are RIGHT! If not, YOUR SOUL IS LOST.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
hello pers: give me evidence, of your hateful comment
nonthiestnc 2 years ago
as he will you, and I'm sure there aren't any stones in your closet! hah! not!
sweetcharlie63 1 year ago
He is still gay. He's having fun with my pole right now
ExpiredRamen 2 years ago 4
Hahahaha!
MissNevada08 2 years ago
All I cam say is that I am so very sorry that there people misrepresented the real love of God which is unconditional. He loves the sinner but doesn't love the sin. I as a human struggle with my own sin every day and am far from perfect but I do know where my hope help and peace comes from and I truly pray that everyone who reads this will accept my apology for all of the people who misrepresent Christ's love. Get to know God, the REAL God and you won't regret it! Bless you all!
supershourds 2 years ago
hello super: i hope you do pray for all of us. were living a good life while you seem to fear this unseen sky wizard. give me 3 examples of answered prayers ? legit, verifiable, date, time, written and outcome of these prayers.
nonthiestnc 2 years ago
hello super: please respect my comment to yours. i will await your 3 proof of answered prayers
nonthiestnc 2 years ago
as with gaythiest, iam proud that i broke free this nonsense sheep herd mentality of religion. it does destroy lives in the name of some sky wizard. how silly is that. go live a happy, healthy, guilt free lives
nonthiestnc 2 years ago
I agree.
Religion makes people live in a mortal hell. folowing so many rules an such.
tsch. If I go to hell, ill pack sunscreen :3
sasukeluver4593 2 years ago
I will see you there, LOL!!!!
gaytheist1 2 years ago 2
I am so glad I am atheist, the church does nothing but destroy people's lives!!!
gaytheist1 2 years ago
True, true. Nothing but making people live in a hell of so many rules and fear of being punished.
sasukeluver4593 2 years ago
why do people who say they are not gay anymore sound more gay after they come forward? he sounds queer as a 2 dollar bill.
yameted 2 years ago
you claim to know what a Gay person sounds like? you should start a business. lol
sweetcharlie63 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This man seeks the truth. And he has answers.
Gay = demonic. This is right. You just cast it out. Gayism is not the person but a trick of the devil.
crawlersilverwind 2 years ago
Wow, I went through a Desert Stream Seminar in 1989 when I was 18 and there was a real creepy Desert Stream guy there...and I bet it was the guy you had a problem with. anyway Jaylen it's Mike from myspace if you see this.
mikemmlj 3 years ago
sue the bastards for child abuse
drflynn73 3 years ago 2
Great posting.
Pencilpusher42 3 years ago
You're cute. you should be out.
myview28 3 years ago
I applaud your courage I wish you continued success. PEACE-
inspirejoy 3 years ago
Should anybody be surprised that self-proclaimed ex-gays molest children? Thx for bringing still more light on this issue.
MainStreetMonochrome 3 years ago
Yes, we should be surprised because a gay person is NOT a pedophile. Straight people don't turn to molesting children when denied sex - neither do gay people. Only pedophiles do that.
nicksum29 3 years ago 12
@nicksum29 But, many whom have been molested by pedophiles have become Homosexuals/Lesbians and/OR have wrestled with Sexual Identity and Same-Sex Attraction. That is a FACT. While I truly believe MOST HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT PEDOPHILES, like MOST HETEROSEXUALS ARE NOT PEDOPHILES, and yet...
While Pedophiles may NOT be Gay, but their heinous acts on many children have caused many of those children to deal with issues of Homosexuality. That is a FACT. No denying and getting around TRUTH.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
LPAT rants, "many whom have been molested by pedophiles have become Homosexuals/Lesbians "
Um, no. That's like claiming that heterosexuality can be caused by getting raped by your opposite-gender parent. Such irrational hysteria is easily washed away via education, enlightenment, and ...sanity.
"That is a FACT. No denying and getting around TRUTH."
You, yourself, have successfully avoided it thus far.
GodCreatesGays2 11 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Uh uh uh... Not so fast buddy! I asked you STRAIGHT UP... You riddle your words with "LORD... LORD..." And, I asked you DIRECTLY: "Who is "LORD" to you?" Is THE LORD JESUS CHRIST "your Lord?"
Why are you "unsuccesfully avoiding" my question ON THIS? You are answering a PM that I did NOT even send to you and neither concerns you or our conversation, rather than answer the ONE that I DIRECTLY sent to you... WHY? What's really going on? Why can't you ANSWER who is LORD?
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
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LPAT bellows, ""Who is "LORD" to you?" Is THE LORD JESUS CHRIST "your Lord?"
As would be clear to rational, coherent readers, I was referring to God, the Father in Heaven, the Creator of all things in heaven and earth, including homosexuals. I hope this clears up at least a tiny part of your abject confusion.
"You are answering a PM that I did NOT even send to you"
Not in the realm of reality, where the rest of us function, I'm not.
"What's really going on?"
My best bet: a psychotic break.
GodCreatesGays2 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Please watch the youtube vid: "Protect the children - and mean it." If we ignore the real villains, we risk endangering our children. Put it this way: If a lesbian girl is raped by a man - would that not also damage her sexual identity, which is lesbian. You need to be very careful when talking in black and white. Sexuality is a very VERY variable thing.
nicksum29 11 months ago
@nicksum29 What a minute, you are 100%CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. In one breath you say that Homosexuals CAN NOT CHANGE (which is really a LIE that many are deceived to believe, Sexuality and Sexual "appetite" is the one of the easiest things God can FIX n one's life, when one is ready to get serious with GOD and dedicate themselves to become what the Lord Jesus Christ says: "A Living Sacrifice.") but, anyway, you then turn right around & say Sexuality is a "VARIABLE." Can't have it both ways! :)
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 And, besides this foolishness of folks being "BORN GAY" is pure ridiculous! When has a test been performed on a NEWBORN to determine that, that NEWBORN baby was a LESBIAN GIRL or a GAY BOY? You guys believe the SUBLIME to "justify" rebellious works. But, let's go with the sublime and "buy into this notion" that folks are BORN GAY, OK... So, still NO EXCUSE to STAY GAY, because JESUS CHRIST still calls out to the Homosexual (as unto ALL US SINNERS): "You must be BORN AGAIN."
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM I'm not sure why you are so passionate about this subject, and even more surprised that you assume all the world is Christian. I did not say sexuality is unchangeable. Gay men have been marrying straight women for centuries, and lesbians have been marrying straight men. The untold stories of all these oceans of tears are yet to be told. Straight men in prison have good, satisfying sex with each other (not only rape occurs in jail). Come visit my family in Taiwan.
nicksum29 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Oh no my friend... Opposite, I KNOW MOST OF THE WORLD IS NOT CHRISTIAN. Even MOST so-called "Christians" are NOT CHRISTIAN. To be a TRUE CHRISTIAN means to SACRIFICE whatever that " SIN thing" is that gets in the way of PURE WORSHIP and TRUE FELLOWSHIP with THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and THE FATHER. And, MOST CHRISTIANS are not willing to "give up" those things, that is why Jesus Christ says HIS WAY IS NARROW and FEW WALK WITH HIM. THE WORLD IS EVIDENT THAT MOST PEOPLE REJECT JESUS.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 There is no such thing as STRAIGHT or GAY. See, that is where I know all of you guys are deceived by HOGWASH and BRAINWASHED. There are ONLY PEOPLE. There are ONLY SOULS. And, there are those SOULS that LIVE UNTO GOD and IN ACCORDANCE TO HIS WILL. And, then there are those SOULS that LIVE UNTO THEMSELVES and IN ACCORDANCE TO THEIR OWN WILL. That's the only difference.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Those that CHOOSE TO CONTINUE to remain in SAME-SEX activity and relationships are LIVING UNTO THEMSELVES and IN ACCORDANCE TO THEIR OWN WILLS. For it is NOT THE WILL OF GOD that SAME-SEX should be rendered as "ONE FLESH." That is NOT HIS WILL. And, don't say, well why are GAY people still here? Well, why are Strippers, Adulterers, Fornicators, Porn-Stars, Rapists, Pedophiles, Masturbators, Thieves, Robbers, Thugs, Drugs, Gangs, Hookers, etc are STILL HERE? That is bcuz the WORLD
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 The WORLD is FULL OF SIN. We are BORN IN SIN. That is why, I used the analogy earlier, let's go with the idea that people are supposedly BORN GAY, well, then if such should be the case, there is NO EXCUSE to STAY THAT WAY. A Homosexual must be BORN AGAIN. So, even if we can NOT CHOOSE "who we are" we STILL HAVE THE POWER TO CHOOSE to NOT "walk" in "the way" of "who we are." GOD GIVES EVERY PERSON THE POWER TO CHANGE TO DO HIS WILL. But, you gotta WANT THAT DEEP DOWN.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 I hear these guys saying they wanted to be LOVED, ACCEPTED and it is clear, they NEVER said, you know what? I loved being GAY. I loved dealing with MEN. But, you know what? If GOD says it is NOT HIS WILL, forget what I "love" OR "like" I WANT TO LOVE GOD MORE THAN THAT. I WANT TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO GOD more than find ACCEPTANCE with others or even myself. These guys were getting DEPRESSED, because they DEEP DOWN did NOT DESIRE GOD. They DESIRED TO "FIT IN."
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 But, the KINGDOM OF GOD does NOT work that way. For fact, TO FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST means to absolutely NOT FIT IN. It means to SACRIFICE those things that your little flesh just LOVES and DESIRES and flips out over. It means to DENY ONE'S SELF. It means to CARRY A CROSS. It means to LOSE YOUR LIFE (i.e., "Carnal life") for THE SAKE OF JESUS CHRIST. See folks hate to GIVE UP their deeds, but that then means that is an IDOL in your life. These guys IDOLIZE their SEXUALITY.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM No, it means there are two people who, in this bleak and lonely world, can cuddle together for comfort, and know that nasty little men who pervert beautiful books, are not going to drag them out screaming, rape them into being " straight" and then say that The Bible told them to do it. this happens in my homeland every day - it's called "corrective rape". Like it or not, this is the result of YOUR kind of THINKING in THIS regard. We do not live in your theoretical realms.
nicksum29 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Where does the Bible say to RAPE A MAN INTO BEING STRAIGHT? See, you guys always love to put DUMB SINFUL STUFF on THE BIBLE and on GOD. But, if GOD says he HATES two men "becoming one flesh" ... THINK! He HATES two men becoming "one flesh!" Regardless of the SINFUL EXCUSE these wackos in your country are saying. THINK. But, again you are just like MOST PEOPLE you only think about your LIFE in this WORLD. But, you are going to LEAVE THIS WORLD dude.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM I was referring to the rape of lesbians in my country - perpetrated by straight men who, spurred on by religion, have taken up this new and delightful hobby. But the fact that you assume I am a man reveals much about your true agenda, and your own sexual fears.
nicksum29 11 months ago
@nicksum29 First of all, GOD DOES NOT ADVOCATE THE RAPING OF WOMEN. If you think so... LOOK INTO THE BIBLE where God whom loved David, but yet brought JUDGMENT AGAINST DAVID'S HOUSE because why? One of David's sons RAPED his sister. God HATES that! GOD LOVES WOMEN. JESUS CHRIST always gave example upon example of LOVE and COMPASSION toward WOMEN. So, if these wackos are raping Lesbians, THINK! They are NOT FOLLOWING THE STEPS OF THE BIBLE NOR JESUS CHRIST! Please **T-H-I-N-K**
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
The OT has some very... well... compromising passages re. the treatment of women. YOU, however are actively promoting such acts by supporting anti sexuality attitudes. People far more foolish than you, and often illiterate, take your attitude to mean something far worse than it does. There is no two ways about it. You, and those like you, are actively and perversely perpetrating crimes against defenceless women and children who happen to be gay. It is you who are the abomination, not us.
nicksum29 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Now the OT does NOT have compromising passages of treating women. Folks need to UNDERSTAND the writing of THE BIBLE it was not just simply written to "show you" what GOD'S DESIRE is for Humanity, but it was also written to "show the degradation; sin state" of Humanity. How can we know and understand the NEED & GIFT OF GOD without "seeing" and "understanding" the RIDICULOUS STATE that man has been in (and still in) due to SIN? The BIBLE shows vignettes of MAN'S DOING & GOD'S DOING.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Darling, now you assume... I TOO AM WOMAN! :) So, you see you have prejudged that "I and those like me are perpetrating crimes against defenseless women and children..." LOL!!! :) Girlfriend, cry me a river! The BIBLE is full of AWESOME examples of GLORIOUS WOMEN OF GOD, that were POWERFUL and AMAZING! And, THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD was WITH THEM. Ever heard of DEBORAH? ESTHER? RUTH? NAOMI? These girls were bad chicks! :) don't give me that garbage that GOD/BIBLE hates WOMEN.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM If you are a woman, you should be deeply ashamed of yourself. I certainly am.
nicksum29 10 months ago
LPAT screams, "I TOO AM WOMAN!"
Then, please, reach for the Midol.
GodCreatesGays2 10 months ago
@nicksum29 You will have MORE TIME after this WORLD than you will ever have in this WORLD. So, why live for this world? Or the things of this world? Or the things in this world? Cuddling and Comfort? What? You mean a MAN can NOT be cuddled and comforted in the arms of a woman? But, it is not about that. Let's get real and STOP playing games. This comes down to 100% S-E-X. Because a WOMAN can cuddle and comfort a MAN. Trust, it happens all the time! :) BUT... Homosexuals do NOT want
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Do not WANT the Love and Comfort of WOMAN. Why? Because it is not solely about that, now is it? Because if it was, then they could find that in a Woman. But, anatomically and sexually a WOMAN can NOT sexually penetrate. And a man whose mind is into being penetrated, and that's a TURN ON to him, will NOT find desire for woman. So, this is NOT about Love, Cuddles and Comfort. Women can certainly do that. It is about SEX. And, the IDOLIZATION of SEXUALITY. This is SEX WORSHIP.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 I have so much RESPECT for Homosexuals who just do NOT PLAY GAMES as to why they "do" what they do! There is a female US athelete who "came out" a few years back and I simply cheered the fact that she was like, "You know what? I was NOT BORN lesbian, I simply LOVE WOMEN and I CHOOSE to LOVE WOMEN... This is MY CHOICE and what I CHOOSE." I was like FINALLY! A Homosexual who is REAL ENOUGH to be a GROWN UP and OWN HER LIFE! Cheers to this lady! It is such Bull Crap when Gays...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 It is such Bull Crap when Gays come with all of these "woe is me, I can't help it, I cant choose, its not my choice, I didnt ask to be this way, I was made this way, I cant control myself, I see the same-sex and I just lose it, I am a prisoner of my own sexuality, I am forced to have sex with my same gender, my genetics are like this, bah... sniff... sniff... bah." BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Stop playing games. If you are Homosexual stop giving EXCUSES and MAN UP and OWN IT!
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Owning it is NOT giving all the excuses and references and lies as to WHY one likes to be ONE FLESH with their gender. Owning it is doing just what that lady did! Being REAL with herself that she simply digs chicks! Period. No excuse. No crying. OK. NOW... Her SIN & REBELLION is STILL THE SAME as the Gay with execuse, but you know what? GOD WILL HAVE MORE PATIENCE WITH HER than someone totally self-medicating and self-deceiving themselves (and others) why they are Homosexual.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@nicksum29 Its all the same its Demonic. Of the devil.
DarkCode 9 months ago
@DarkCode Indeed you are.
nicksum29 9 months ago
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@nicksum29 Indeed I am right and Indeed you are an Idiot LOL
DarkCode 9 months ago
This guy gave into the devil and lost his Faith in Jesus that's why failed and now he believes the very evil he was trying to be free from. He accept satan. So sad.
DarkCode 9 months ago
@DarkCode Og, go home, little troll.
nicksum29 9 months ago
@nicksum29 You said oh God. So you admit you worship Satan? just want to be clear on that. Oh no don't call me a little troll you are hurting my feeling lol how old are you heathen? Go jump off a bridge.
DarkCode 9 months ago