Worker survives excavator rollover

[snottbucket1]

almost happened to my dad working near a river bank and the tracks went off the edge he bailed out though

[Origional79s]

Shit happenes

[BlackMac525]

It also looks like the operator was placing logs against standing timber to create his bench which should never be done but is very comon and hard to see after the ditching material is placed on top covering it up. Also on the road pofile map it clearly states it should have been full bench. As to the use of puncheon, there is no way to build road is some area's of the west coast with out it and is very safe when done right

[uni000ver000sal]

Oh well, another call to the recruiting agency.

Oops, I forgot, need to raise a purchase order for another excavator.

Accidents are mother nature's way of preventing idiots to breed more idiots.

[Oceanside31]

It looks to me like poor water managment as well as poor puncheon placement. As you can see on the map it looks to me like a culvert was to be placed in the area of work wich would be the cause of water saturation of the soil. As for woofybigj commment. A properly punched and ballasted road is very stable as long as the water has been managed. To full width strip and endhaul a heavily spoil area is insane if you can overland.

[woofybigj]

I guess we aren't used to building roads like that on this side. Probably the overall temporary nature of the construction makes sense. But even then if a temporary method is used then full reclamation back to original contours should take place and I have seen a lot of forestry road that didn't even meet that minimum when deactivated, I am probably biased when I see the rules I have to abide by and those which forestry allows for wood cutting conglomerates. Thanks for the info, I learned a bit.

[Oceanside31]

Using puncheon for road building is called overlanding, you have to do so because the spoil is to deep and if you were to do a full width strip you would have no where for the water to go when you were done, besides the huge costs for end hauling the material away would be uneconomical. As well there is nothing wrong with puncheon roads as long as its done correctly and enough ballast is used to hold up the logging trucks. Poor water managment and poor puncheon placement here in my opinion.

[castirondude]

his safety recommendations are kind of cliche though. What you need is a quicker way to spot hazardous conditions. If it requires extensive engineering and training it won't be practical.

[woofybigj]

Has anyone asked why BC forestry allows the use of "Puncheon" in road building. Anyone else, myself included involved in the oilfield on the otherside of the mountains knows that burying wood is the biggest no no you can do. (Unless its muskeg then its called corduroy). So "WCB" how about making them remove the wood,strip the soil properly and key in the fills, that way the hoe is always on a solid and stable surface

[ke6gwf]

@woofybigj

Logging roads seem to have a different set of standards from any other roads!

I guess they figure they are only going to be driving on them part of the year, so why bother...

[munro290]

I believe that the structure on the cab was only a (FOPS)Falling object protective structure, WCB dosent require a (ROPS)roll over protective structure on a track hoe. I have been operating excavators and cats for the past 15 years in road construction and none of the exavators have a ROPS, just a FOPS required to work in the bush.

[realfacts]

Absolutely correct munro290. The WCB guidelines can be found in part 16 under article 16.21. The specific subsections that deal with minimum operator protection expected on a hydraulic excavator exposed to the hazard of intruding or flying objects, such as loose debris, snags, tree trunks, or limbs, which are conditions normally encountered in pioneering steep side hill logging grades and right-of-way construction, is as follows: Subsections G601, G603, and G608. Keep the trackside down!

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[nikanj]

I'll keep that in mind for if I ever have to drive one of those orange thingos.

[philpett48]

Luck man to walk from that one

[1noble1]

do you think he learned his lesson??

[outbackwanker]

CRES Cabs cannot withstand an incident like this, he's one lucky Operator. Operators, myself included, generally know more about Soil and Substrate Engineering than Engineers. I agree we're treated as dumbasses, but it's funny how they ask us for ideas and advice on how to do work.

[vancouverbman]

good luck finding anybody with any training these days.....and as far a supervision..ahahahahahahaa!

[lowlow420]

WOW

[24876660]

As an operator I know that you can tell supervisors something should be checked but your just the operator and know nothing. They only listen after something like this. The rest of the time its all money, schedules, faster, faster, your thick and smoeone who gets paid more says its okay but hes been in his office all week since finishing university last week and has never been on a site as his boots will get dirty

[beeftom]

You are absolutely right I built road for about 4 years and seen some crazy stuff it seems to me that every time a big-wig comes out he doesn't have a clew on how things rely work.

[kimchiman1000]

You sure hit the nail on the head with that comment, bro!

[jaynoe123]

i thought the cab cage was strong to withstand a rollover ...

[vancouverbman]

probably did the first time but may have rolled a few times....

[imvrybord]

Nah, very few hoes have rollover protection (ROPS). Looks about like an EX200, something that Hitachi nor any other manufacturer of a machine that size would expect to be rolled. Operator must've been lucky, that cab got pancaked.