I remember watching this fight. I forgot how obnoxious and biased kellerman was. I'm embarassed for max. Sounds like he wants to lay down and play bottom for Roy. Ohhh, put it in there Roy! It feels so good ...... even if your not in your PRIME anymore. You were magnificent in your PRIME. You were so special in your PRIME. You can bugger me anytime Roy even if your past your PRIME. Your still my hero. Thats it Roy, thats it. bareback me baby, bareback me like you were in your PRIME.
9:07 - 9:12 is the fastest combination I've ever seen. A typical example of what some call 'slaps'. If you watch it a few times they look a bit harder than slaps lol
In what possible way was Roy Jones faster than Joe Calzaghe in the second round? Calzaghe just didn't land. Jones was moving quite well, but not beating Calzaghe for speed. The Commentaters were bigging Jones up because of the knockdown (even he caught hin with the forearm Calzaghe deserved to lose a point for not keeping his hands close enough to his head). Wichich you can get away with when you're so naturally hard!
if this fight took place before the ruiz fight...jones wouldve demolished this guy. still, calzaghe is a warrior, but jones wouldve been too fast, too powerful.
@Uprising771 calzaghe was champ for ten years and only two years younger than Jones. Calzaghe would always have given Jones trouble. Calzaghe was calling Jones out for years. Jones picked his opponents carefdully. Like Calxahje, Jones fought a lot of bums. You can't call it that way. ;
@Maxshard this fight did not take place earlier because nobody was willing to pay to see it. it had nothing to do with jones decision..its about his management team. same goes for any fighter...they fight for a living and are ready to fight anyone...but their handlers decide their careers based on money.
@Uprising771 In mosr cases, you are correct but as the US commentator said, Roy Jones was always the King in Roy Jomes' world. Jones was always the boss and could pick and choose who he wanted to fight.
As Emmanuel Steward said, Calzaghe would have given Jones trouble at any stage of his career. Calzaghe quit after this fight because he was only a couple of years younger than Jones. Old for a fighter.
Jones hasn't been right since heavyweight. No one ever thought to check Calzaghe blood and urine. He was later proven as a cocaine user, maybe he was using then.
@StereOasis93 ROFL. Prime Roy Jones ... and I think any non retarded boxing fan will agree, will murder prime joe calzaghe. I mean murder lol, not beat or knock out but murder. A prime Roy Jones can seriously kill a prime joe calzaghe in the ring. End his life.
@exploitivex So let me get this straight you think that Roy Jones would kill him in the ring? How come that has never happened to anyone else that's fought him? your so fucking deluded! I admit he did used to be a better boxer than he is now and a very good one! but this wasn't Calzaghe in his prime either so you cant compare shit like that you have to go by what you see and what I saw was Calzaghe absolutely humiliate Jones. End of discussion.. next?
@callum123100 no your on your own there. Joe was only 3 years younger you idiot. And also Karl Froch is not a good enough fighter to have had a shot at Joe
@StereOasis93 hahaha your overrated "legend" beat a 41 year old roy jones jr. if you honestly think that calzaghe would have beaten jones or even hopkins in their prime... then youre retarded and dont know boxing
@viewer3511 Calzaghe wasn't in his prime either. I admit that Roy Jones would have been a much tougher fight in his prime but I think Calzaghe would have a very good chance purely by the amount of punches that he lands. And Calzaghe would always beat hopkins.
@StereOasis93 by beating them when they were old and passed their prime ohh ohh no BIGGIE!!! even beat some of your legendary fighters over the hill, Chris Eubanks spring to mind but no Biggie
@StereOasis93 yep he humiliated one of our greats who was way past his prime, good job. General consensus is that calzaghe is not that great and definitely not a legend. It doesn't matter what nationality you are.Nice try using the nationality card though.
@StereOasis93 don't you mean two? haha can't even spell mate, and we all know calzaghe is good, but he had nothing on either hopkins or jones in their primes.
Please, find another sport to follow. The Jones who was PFP #1 with catlike reflexes and the greatest athleticism ever granted to a boxer would have murdered Slappy Joe. You're simply a moron if you can't see that. Hell, this shot to shit version of Jones knocked down this fraud. Imagine what he would have done when he had a pulse.
What makes me laugh is how they make out Joe is the youngster in this fight. The truth is Calzaghe wanted to fight Jones for the past 10 yrs and Roy didn't want it. We now know why.
Jone's style was based purely on physical ability. He was all raw athleticism: speed, reflexes, and explosiveness. He suffered the curse of not needing to learn the basics because he was good enough naturally.
Because his fundamentals were severely lacking, when his raw physical ability declined, he had NOTHING to go on! He couldn't fall back on "proper" boxing technique because he had never had to learn it!
@FSMNoodlyAppendage agreed Jones was athletically the best boxer ive ever seen his reflexes were amazing but he always had his flaws.you get some people on you tube who seriously think he could have beat Lewis or a Klitschko when he stepped up to heavyweight that always makes me laugh even though i loved Jones at his best and knew he would beat Ruiz.Calzaghe was underated but prime for prime you would have to fancy Jones
@FSMNoodlyAppendage i box to,same shit me and my coach said,his trainers and coaches should have known and fixed it early on,if you watch the 3rd fight with him and tarver, when jones gets wobble in the later rounds its because he drops his hands after a hook,when he was younger he could do that and get away cuz he was fast as shit
max kellerman god that guy chats some shit i watch paul williams vs martinez the rematch what a punch by martinez to end the fight and then mad max ask p williams why he could not take the punch what a turd from thee seer
I'm British and I cant stand Calzaghe. I think his record looks good but he has fought some truly awful opposition and took the big fights when they didnt mean anything. Roy Jones anytime before 2003/4 would have handed Calzaghes ass to him.
@pearcemark2 thank you mate, there are some of us who are sensible. Fact is, Calzaghe took "dangerous" fights when they werent really dangerous. The only fight in recent memory I can give the guy any credit for was against Kessler, his clowning against Roy was disrespectful to a guy who has achieved far more than he ever did and it only happened because he knew he could get away with it. Roy, Bernard, Toney when he was middleweight, Benn, Eubank in his prime (not the version Joe fought) Barkley
@pearcemark2 are all examples of fights that Calzaghe wouldnt have taken with these guys in their prime, anyone who disagrees has really smoked too much greenery.
@jonafromwales English, British, whatever, fact is "british" people have a reputation for loving the home fighters too much, Joe was good, but not great.
@jonafromwales In my opinion, the opinion of many other fight fans and the opinion I am sure of many boxing writers and insiders who know far more than you or I. Fact is, have a look through Calzaghes record, other than a win over a 6 year past his best Jones, a highly debatable decision against Bernard Hopkins and an impressive wins over an over rated Jeff Lacy and a relatively handy Kessler, Calzaghe's record is totally unsubstantiated. There is no one he has beaten of any quality really.
@joevtr Maybe true, but Calzaghe was not in his prime either when he fought Hopkins or Jones. In fact, one can say that alot of people ducked fighting Joe when he was in HIS prime.
@cegtown Who? I mean I honestly cant think of a fighter who ducked Joe in his prime. He held the WBO world title, hardly the most prestigious and as champ, his record stinks a little bit. In my view.
@cegtown If any reason that anyone ducked Calzaghe was because he wasn't a marquee fighter. His name didn't put bum on seats. He went off and on Sky Sports quicker than a yo-yo... then he was on ITV... hell even in the U.K. he was barely surviving.
@cegtown His record isn't as great as ppl make it out to be. The only wins of his career that were with prime opposition were Lacy and Kessler. Lacy was never in my eyes a top ten P4P fighter. He certainly looked that way when Calzaghe laced him up and sent him back to the States. Kessler was a very good fighter when Calzaghe fought him but his even better NOW. Hopkins and Jones were poor performances from Calzaghe. He got lucky against Hopkins... I thought Hopkins landed the "cleaner" shots.
@NazhitsREALLYHARD Piss off,ya full of shit.Same could be said of floyd gayweather then.Hes faught fuck all either if ya look properly.Joe beat them ALL.Nuff said ya fuckin bum.
@anthonyp43 Ya fag of ya SCALLYWAG Welsh bastard! Floyd Mayweather is P4P the BEST IN THE WORLD! 5 weight world champion... 7 time world champion... no introduction necessary... everyone in boxing has a high opinion of him. Nuff said. HO! Ya fucking beer drinking fat waste of space. Go back to the cardboard box you came from!
@NazhitsREALLYHARD I like floyd ya fuckin cocksucker,but compared to the likes of henry armstrong and that,even floyd s record means shit.Go take a boxing history lesson ya tit,ansd remember ass hole,even CASTILLO won that first fight with floyd ,now fuck off you stupid yank cunt.
@anthonyp43 No Floyd DID win the first fight... his superior jab and defensive skills got the judges attention. As for Henry Armstrong your argument is as decisive as a someone sitting in a programme of Jeremy Kyle! Henry Armstrong was in an era where fighters earned peanuts... that's why he fought soo often because Welterweights them days didn't get the publicity. Joe Louis was stealing his limelight. Now you go off and learn history you UGLY BASTARD! Blocked!
@korvstopparen No Joe wasnt slipping. In fact he may have gotten better with age and experience. But 36 is not the prime age for boxing. We won't know what Joe could have done at a younger age versus these fighters because it didnt happen. All we have are these real results. Anything else is speculation.
@korvstopparen I agree completely with that statement, it does seem the fighters styles decide how long they will be prime, i feel its the more technical fighters who keep there primes longer than the knockout aggressive artists, because finess skills in boxing never really leave you, but you have to keep everything fresh, Reactions speed etc.
Man calzaghe fought jones and hopkins when they were over the hill well not really hopkins but he was still 43 years old and calzaghe still barely beat both of them! That hopkins fight could of been a draw being that hopkins damn near knocked his asss out in the first round! and jones checked his weak chin aswell in the first round!
@vvyperr7 they both called calzaghe out jones got outclassed completely and hopkins fought like a scared bitch if they were in ther prime calzaghe wouldve took them seriously and beat them even worse
@poczapsky69 Took them seriously? You can't know boxing talking like this,they both knock him down in the first round! To a boxer(and i used to box) i still train but i don't ring right anymore, and as an boxer i know when you get put on your ass believe me you take that fight from there on out very seriously! That being said cal barely escape with victory against them over there primes! Any trainer will tell you don't assume shit don't step in that ring thinking it's gonna be a dog walk!
@vvyperr7 Look Calzaghe had to move up in weight to fight Hopkins as is the case with most of Hopkins fights high profile fights 'Oscar De La Hoya' having to make Hopkins weight being another example. Hopkins style is such that age isn't really an issue, he just plods at a slow pace which suits him or otherwise he'd be fighting classier guys at supermiddle. Roy Jones is shot but then this isn't Calzaghe in his prime either.
@HellbringerUK i agree hopkins at his age his style fits him plus old dude can scrap (box) but he was 43 joe was 36 thats pretty significant! Yeah he finally moved up in weight when them boyz got old! hell i'll take a mid 30's joe over a early 43 hopkins (slightly), and a joe over a completely shot jones who still did alright in that fight!
@vvyperr7 i'd agree age is an issue in Jones case because of Jones' style of fighting relying on movement and speed but BHOP is and always has been slower,more methodical and has a far lower workrate. Joe took the fight at lightheavy against BHOP and it was Joes first. If Joe had any sense he'd have had BHOP make supermiddle where Joe was more comfortable. Whether your a fan of Joes or not, nobody at supermiddle has ever had his workrate.
Oh ye lets fight Roy Jones when he is over the hill, way to go CALZAGHE. clap clap clap, or should i say slap slap slap, He just happend to be in an era where there were no good fighters. Hes well overated.
NEWS ALERT: WELSH CHERRY PICKING SNAKE ATTACKS MAN: News just in, WELSH CHERRY PICKING SNAKE JOE CALZAGHE has struck again, EXPERTS are not suprised, there was always a SLAP in the TAIL! EXPERTS also say the CHERRY PICKING SNAKE has developed a TASTE for OLD MEN who are a DECADE out of their PRIME! They also say the SNAKE learned to SLAP because it's PUNCHES are USELESS! The SNAKE is not VENOMOUS but does spit TOMATO JUICE at people! EXPERTS say it's because it's ADDICTED to TOMATO CANS!
@farrell360 probably that asshole 'bobsino' as well. The guy just cut 'n' pastes all day long, the same old crap. I'm beggining to think he doesn't have many braincells. What a sad life opening numerous accounts just to do that.
I dont understand to this day how Calzaghe went down on that punch. I mean Roy's kind of old and in my opinion had lost most of his power at this point. To be honest I think Calzaghe did that out of fear of a super flurry coming or something cus I know for a fact he can take that baby punch Roy had given him.
@Zachrydaman LOl You know for a 'fact'...? I'd love to know where you're getting your facts from. You could be right for all I know, but I can't prove or disprove your opinion. aha but it did make me laugh a little :)
@ScionAscendant I should have made myself more clear. What I meant was Roy didn't lose his power but more of his committment to it. He really had stopped throwing as many power punches at this point in his career and even when he did they weren't fully committed. I remember back in the day he used to lunge his whole body into the left hook as well as the right straight.
@Zachrydaman Ah I see what you mean. He probably knows that he doesn't have the super-human reflexes he used to to get away with loading up his shots. It could definitely be a psychological thing on Clazaghe's part, like you were saying. He has a history of this happening. It's kind of odd, really.
@lastruebeliever Well what I'm saying is Jones is in most ppl's top 10 p4p all time and is known as the most superior athlete to ever step in the boxing ring with his size, speed of foot and hand, reflexes, etc etc. Also the only guy to go from junior middle up to heavy and win. Calzaghe got him when he was old and lost all that superior athleticism that made him great and he had lost any chin he used to have before hitting 200 and coming back.
RJJ up to 2004 was/is my idol. The unfortunate thing is that his style was based off athleticism and quick reflexes.The second that those dropped under 100%, his career took a steep downfall. That's why guys like Hopkins are still doing great, he has a style based off intelligence and tactics as opposed to quick reflexes. Still, RJJ up to 2004 is the greatest boxer I have ever watched in my life.
This was not Roy Jones Jr, this was a pale shadow of Roy Jones Jr - he was over 40 i think, still good enough to knock that fraud Calzaghe down.
A prime Jones Jr would have wiped the floor with Calzaghe in 2/3 rounds. How did Calzaghe establish 46 - 0 record - by fighting very poor quality opponents.
@Danazawa typical comment before research: jones was 39 in this fight with calzaghe only 3 years younger.. there was a very small difference in age, ur point is invalid. Also you talk about Calzaghe's weak opponents, however how many good opponents did jones face honestly? HOWEVER i would agree with you about prime jones vs prime Calzaghe, jones would most likely have won.
@lastruebeliever Lol he is a fighting machine and one of the best of his time but he's not up there with Jones and Hopkins in terms of all time legacy. But I do see where your coming from.
What happened with Roy is His body changed and his speed left him and he did not change his style ala muhammed ali...he still wants to be on his wheels the whole fight and he physically cant anymore....also some of the nerve and will may be gone after the 2 knockouts at this time. Not taking anything away from Joe..You cant....the fact is both fighters got in the ring. Who is past their prime or prime dont matter...they got in. It can be argued who would of won..but we dont know.
first off calzag never had a prime, 2nd off you said he would have "likely" beat him, tht dont sound sure, cos u kno da truth, and 3rd off i never said was all about power, thts why roys no good here, all power lost his quikness...ur a dumb fuck, if u actually believe he woulda beat roy in his prime, what a lame nut u r
@saracen09767 He never even won the title when he had a brit trainer, he was AWARDED it. ROFL
And you're a fool if you think he beat McCall in "spectacular fashion". The motherfucker was literally CRYING IN THE RING because he was a psycho lunatic. He was walking around with his hands down, not even trying to fight, just making weird faces. And STILL Lennox barely jumped on him to finish.
Lennox the jamaican canadian bum, KO'd by 2 mighty americans. Don't be jelly bro.
@saracen09767 First of all, "Timbuktu", and second, you're not born with natural skill. You have to be taught. Some people learn faster and therefore would be "a natural", but nobody comes out of the womb a champion boxer. It takes YEARS of hard work and experience, and drilling it over and over and over and over.
That doesn't come from being born in between imaginary borders, it comes from the work you put in.
In Lennox's case, under canadian trainers in Canada, not the UK
@saracen09767 "He claimed he'd always considered himself British,[6][7][8] but many British fans regard him as "a Canadian at heart and a Briton for convenience", as he had trained only in Canada and the United States and already lived half his life in North America."
HA, the fucker never even learned to fight in the UK. He learned in Canada and America, and spent his entire teenage and young adult years here.
@saracen09767 Peak has NOTHING to do with age and everything to do with performance you moron. Tyson peaked extremely early, and a bunch of bad decisions lead to his downfall.
The Razor Ruddock fights were really big fights. There's no denying it, it's dumb to act like they weren't.
By the way, the bum that KO'd Tyson also beat Oliver McCall in a decision, who went on to KO your precious Lennox Lewis.
And let's not forget the bum Rahman who ALSO KO'd Lewis' glass jaw ass
@saracen09767 The 90's was the best time as far as freak show Tyson goes, because everyone was terrified of him and he was talking and acting crazy.
He solds out 3 straight shows that got over a million PPV buys, CRAZY draw.
Then in 96 and 97, Holyfield beat his ass twice when everyone thought Holy was done.
And only then, 3 years later in 2000, did Lennox beat Holy. And the fucked up thing is, Lewis got screwed on the draw, but the second time Holy got screwed with the loss.
@saracen09767 You clearly know nothing about boxing, as you have your facts and timeline WAY mixed up.
Tyson's boxing peak was in 88, but he never fought a fellow prime fighter. After that he fired Kevin Rooney and stopped training, hired yes men to be in his corner, spent all day partying and fucking, and his boxing went to shit. This got him KO'd by a bum, but he still went on to fight Razor Ruddock in 2 big fights before prison. Then after prison, he was HUGE for a couple years.
@saracen09767 "if you class a bum whos last big fight was a loss to a 42/1 underdog fighting a man who lennox lewis had already beaten the last big thing happeneing in boxing haha"
What does this even MEAN?
You didn't see what america did with kickboxing? They've tried pushing it here for years, but under shitty rules, and it never caught on. It especially now, because why move backwards?
We had boxing, dominated, said "Fuck this is boring" and made a better sport to challenge ourselves
@saracen09767 A gorilla clinches? HA, nice way to excuse your blatant racism. What heavyweight division? I can't remember anything happening at heavyweight since Tyson got beat by Holyfield. I thought that was the blowoff for the division? You learn something new every day.
America left boxing years ago, dude. We moved on to a new better sport. Real fighting, not just 1 dimension of it. And in that sport, your best fighter suffered of the most brutal KOs EVER (to an american BTW)
@saracen09767 "clinches like a gorilla", "boxing in a zoo" ha, your racism is showing through loud and clear.
The commentators aren't judges. "Yanks" aren't biased at all, we don't give a FUCK where you're from as long as you're good. It's all you brits and every other country who acts like your shit don't stink and you blindly support your bums, because your countries are so tiny and insignifcant, it actually brings joy to your life if someone does well.
@saracen09767 The whole fight was in Bernard's rhythm. Calzaghe has never had a fight like that, because he wasn't fighting his style. He fought the fight Bernard wanted to fight.
He "never did anything" besides outbox Calzaghe for 7 of 12 rounds.
The commentators are idiots. They'll shill for whoever HBO wants them to at the moment and do EVERYTHING they can to disregard the other guy. It's happened for years, everyone knows this.
@saracen09767 What dirty tactics? The only one using dirty tactics in that fight was Joe, when he started punching him in the cock from round 2 on.
He didn't land close to a third of his punches. Joe might've landed 1 for every 5 he threw.
Compubox stats mean NOTHING. They've had 3 people in 3 different countries use the compubox system on the same fight, all 3 were WILDLY different results. It's not at all accurate or reliable.
Calzaghe proved nothing, as he never even beat Hopkins. He lost 7 rounds to a 43 year old man including a 10-8 from a knockdown. He was given a boxing lesson.
Poor fuck was lucky to get away with a split decision. If it weren't for the british crowd cumming at every one of his missed slaps, the judges wouldn't have been influenced it would've been a unanimous for B-Hop.
hahahahaha, the fight was in america with 3 non british judge's... hopkins lost you fool. calzaghe beat him. look it up if you don't believe me. only in your biased mind did hopkins win. the crowd influenced no one, arsehole. calzaghe bent him over and dry humped him... like a bitch. hopkins knew his place that night
before calzaghe fought hopkins, he fought kessler... who is a much better fighter than pavlik will ever be. then fought hopkins ( who then beat the shit out of the bum, pavlik, after calaghe had dealt with him) why would he need to fight an overrated bum like pavlik? that doesn't make any sense. and he didn't duck johnson you fool, he had hand injurys. when clinton woods beat johnson in the third fight, there was no need to fight him.
@seablock Besides Pavlik, he could've fought Taylor, Abraham, Froch, Ward, Dawson, Pascal, Tarver, rematch with Reid, rematch with Hopkins.
ANY FUCKING THING would've been better than to retire on a super controversial split decision against a 43 year old and then a fraudulent joke of a fight against a guy who never should've come out of retirement.
Horrendous way to cap off a career that was already mocked as being a joke prior to then. Worst possible ending Joe could've chosen.
what!?!? calzaghe was 37 years old!! it was time to retire. he doesn't need to hang around in his 40's like so many do... that's stupid. he got out on top and at the right time.
@seablock B-Hop is 46 and still on top. You know why? He's got perfect technique.
Calzaghe, just like Jones, had a style based mostly on youth and speed rather than technique, which is why he'd have been KO'd numerous if he kept fighting to B-Hop's age.
@saracen09767 Because I hate to break it to you, but everyone looks phenomenal fighting bums. That's why they're bums.
Calzaghe beat nothing. I just watched the fight again last night for the 4th or 5th time and once again, I had Hopkins clearly winning.
Calzaghe got rounds 5, 6, 8, 9, and 11. All the others were B-Hop. It was actually a much more decisive win for Hopkins than either Taylor fight, but that was because B-Hop chose not to do ANYTHING for the first 7 rounds for some reason.
if calzaghe beat no one, then a lot of the american fighters beat no one. you stay at home cowards. always want to fight at home don't you?
ward in a competition that's international - stay at home coward. ripping fighters off with the refs and judges that the american cheats like so much.
bradley - yet another american fighter scared of a brit. if he ever finds the courage, khan will make him his bitch.
any fighter from around the world can fight in the UK. it's not just for british fighters. if any fighter has the courage to travel ( not the yanks, their cowards) then they are welcome to. every country does it a lot. the only country not to, is your country. you clearly are an idiot, though. you criticised me for replying to all your posts, then do the same thing yourself. too stupid.
@seablock Remember when Hopkins traveled to Canada twice and beat a young punk for the belt?
You should, he just did.
Remember when Hopkins offered to fly to the UK for a Calzaghe rematch in Millennium Stadium and pussyboy declined? You should, it's happened for the past 3 years and they just met up a few weeks ago and discussed it again, with pussyboy once again declining.
He knows he got a gift that night. That's why he retired. He knew he'd have to face B-Hop again and couldn't do it
@pearcemark2 B-hop LOST. Get over it. You can't try to hold on to a guy for 12 rounds and expect to win. Sure it was an awkward fight and not a style that suited Calzaghe. But Calzaghe WON. End of. Your boy was DEFEATED. LET IT GO.
@GraemeTheDestructor Well no, you actually CAN hold a guy 12 rounds and expect to win, because holding does not add or detract points. Clean effective punching scores points.
Bernard was hitting Calzaghe with clean effective punches more effectively than Calzaghe was hitting Bernard with clean effective punches, for at least 7 of 12 rounds, including a knockdown.
The Tarver bought was hyped as his retirement fight. He was going to go out winning the title, and he did go into semi-retirement as he didn't fight for over a year after that.
Kelly Pavlik, another fighter Joe blatantly ducked. Thank you for mentioning him. Joe ducked him, Hopkins destroyed him.
When exactly was Calzaghe's prime? Because I heart his bullshit from Calzaghe fans a lot. When exactly was this "prime?" When he fought bums?
for the 5th time in total, or the 5th time that night? if it's the latter, then you're clearly a sad case who can't get over the fact that hopkins lost. get a life!
@saracen09767 HAHAHHA, that super middleweight light heavyweight tangent you just went on shows me that you're a fucking idiot who knows nothing about boxing, but then the FUCKING HILARIOUS part is how you went on to name a bunch of fighters Calzaghe never had the balls to fight.
Froch was the mandatory challenger to his belts and Calzaghe ducked him. As soon as the 168 division showed any signs of life, Calzaghe got the FUCK out of there and ran to fight 40 year old men who had retired.
calzaghe should have fought froch, bute, ward etc etc back then? hahahahaha. are you trying to tell me that fighting froch (who had done fuck all at that point) would of been a better opponent than hopkins? get out of here you retard, you're too stupid to be posting!. you might want to check the dates with the others... this will tell you that you're an idiot who doesn't know shit on the subject at hand.
If I had a record as weak and padded and as shit as Calzaghe, I would sure as fuck want to fight all the contenders until people regarded me as the undisputed best.
Hopkins doesn't have to, he already created a phenomenal legacy, but at 46 he's STILL breaking records and making history, cementing him as easily one of the GOAT.
@saracen09767 Calzaghe is a coward for staying at super middleweight, a fake weight class with no worthy fighters, rather than commit to either middleweight or light heavy so that he can actually fight real fighters.
He's also a coward for fighting in europe against nobodies, making zero effort to make himself marketable in the states, and act like the real champions are "ducking" him because they wouldn't fly to the UK to fight a fake champion in a fake weight class.
you're too stupid! calzaghe fought everyone who was around. who should he have fought? calzaghe was also a natural SM who had difficulty making the weight... and you're saying he should have moved 8lbs down? you fucking retard! all the american fighters who fight only in america are also cowards, then. the hopkins fight in 2002 was planned for the states numb nuts. hopkins ducked after getting what he wanted.. not calzaghe. get your facts straight.
@seablock If he's a "natural", he wouldn't have problems making the weight, and if he had such weight problems, MOVE THE FUCK UP TO A REAL WEIGHT CLASS LIKE LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
Don't wait 20 years and move up just to fight 2 40 year olds like a bitch. Do it when it counts.
Idiot, america is the boxing capital of the world. Why the fuck would you fly to a country with 3 million people when there's a CITY in america with 8 million? Makes no sense.
Roy actually looked slow in the Trinidad fight and Anthony Hanshaw fight prior to this fight. So Calzaghe fans...He was past his peak before this fight took place.
No legs and those cat quick reflexes arent there. Roy used to be able to nail you with a hook from 10 feet away. No way does Calzaghe come in hands down against 1993-1997 Roy Jones. Also Roy back then had better energy and conditioning cause he was younger
Roy tested for Rip Fuel...Not steroids. The loss in speed was moving up to 1999 pounds than dropping back to 175 at 35 years old. Look at Ray Leonard against Norris when he dropped back to 154. He looked weak and slow.
Also speed fighters usually deteriorate in there early to mid 30's
Calzaghe got knocked down by a corpse
m9ronaldo 8 minutes ago
I remember watching this fight. I forgot how obnoxious and biased kellerman was. I'm embarassed for max. Sounds like he wants to lay down and play bottom for Roy. Ohhh, put it in there Roy! It feels so good ...... even if your not in your PRIME anymore. You were magnificent in your PRIME. You were so special in your PRIME. You can bugger me anytime Roy even if your past your PRIME. Your still my hero. Thats it Roy, thats it. bareback me baby, bareback me like you were in your PRIME.
GGunnerB 1 day ago
stupid yank commentators! They favour who is ever winning!
AndyCoff12 1 week ago
rjj in his prime wudda koed calzaghe nd im not american btw..
BonGsnBLuNTz 1 week ago
JONES WAS HELLA OLD HERE AND CALSLAPPY HAS A REALLY WELL MANGED CAREER GET AT ME IM BRITISH
judopathoftruth 3 weeks ago
9:07 - 9:12 is the fastest combination I've ever seen. A typical example of what some call 'slaps'. If you watch it a few times they look a bit harder than slaps lol
Queenwraith 1 month ago
In what possible way was Roy Jones faster than Joe Calzaghe in the second round? Calzaghe just didn't land. Jones was moving quite well, but not beating Calzaghe for speed. The Commentaters were bigging Jones up because of the knockdown (even he caught hin with the forearm Calzaghe deserved to lose a point for not keeping his hands close enough to his head). Wichich you can get away with when you're so naturally hard!
MrBlackie198four 1 month ago
if this fight took place before the ruiz fight...jones wouldve demolished this guy. still, calzaghe is a warrior, but jones wouldve been too fast, too powerful.
Uprising771 1 month ago
@Uprising771 calzaghe was champ for ten years and only two years younger than Jones. Calzaghe would always have given Jones trouble. Calzaghe was calling Jones out for years. Jones picked his opponents carefdully. Like Calxahje, Jones fought a lot of bums. You can't call it that way. ;
Maxshard 3 weeks ago
@Maxshard this fight did not take place earlier because nobody was willing to pay to see it. it had nothing to do with jones decision..its about his management team. same goes for any fighter...they fight for a living and are ready to fight anyone...but their handlers decide their careers based on money.
Uprising771 3 weeks ago
@Uprising771 In mosr cases, you are correct but as the US commentator said, Roy Jones was always the King in Roy Jomes' world. Jones was always the boss and could pick and choose who he wanted to fight.
As Emmanuel Steward said, Calzaghe would have given Jones trouble at any stage of his career. Calzaghe quit after this fight because he was only a couple of years younger than Jones. Old for a fighter.
Maxshard 3 weeks ago
calzaghe was 37 when he fought this fight no
thevmister1 1 month ago
Jones hasn't been right since heavyweight. No one ever thought to check Calzaghe blood and urine. He was later proven as a cocaine user, maybe he was using then.
bigcartoonyIIV 1 month ago
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bigcartoonyIIV 1 month ago
Calzaghe were was he in the 1990's? fighting chumbs i believe. Nigel Ben would have killed the Italian pretending to be Welsh
callum123100 2 months ago
All people saying Jones wasn't in his prime and was to old etc, calzaghe was no spring chicken either ffs!
Trotters222 2 months ago
Undefeated..
thomcatish 2 months ago
Joe Calzaghe = Legend. Fuck off all you Americans that are pissed off cus he humiliated to of your "greats"
StereOasis93 2 months ago 10
@StereOasis93 ROFL. Prime Roy Jones ... and I think any non retarded boxing fan will agree, will murder prime joe calzaghe. I mean murder lol, not beat or knock out but murder. A prime Roy Jones can seriously kill a prime joe calzaghe in the ring. End his life.
exploitivex 2 months ago
@exploitivex So let me get this straight you think that Roy Jones would kill him in the ring? How come that has never happened to anyone else that's fought him? your so fucking deluded! I admit he did used to be a better boxer than he is now and a very good one! but this wasn't Calzaghe in his prime either so you cant compare shit like that you have to go by what you see and what I saw was Calzaghe absolutely humiliate Jones. End of discussion.. next?
StereOasis93 2 months ago
@StereOasis93 even here in Wales we know hes shit. Roy jones jr was 41. Calzaghe was always to scarred to fight Karl Froch hes a coward
callum123100 2 months ago
@callum123100 no your on your own there. Joe was only 3 years younger you idiot. And also Karl Froch is not a good enough fighter to have had a shot at Joe
StereOasis93 2 months ago
@StereOasis93 hahaha your overrated "legend" beat a 41 year old roy jones jr. if you honestly think that calzaghe would have beaten jones or even hopkins in their prime... then youre retarded and dont know boxing
viewer3511 2 months ago
@viewer3511 Calzaghe wasn't in his prime either. I admit that Roy Jones would have been a much tougher fight in his prime but I think Calzaghe would have a very good chance purely by the amount of punches that he lands. And Calzaghe would always beat hopkins.
StereOasis93 2 months ago
@StereOasis93 He beat Jones and Hopkins when they were both well past their prime, so who cares.
fuckooo 2 months ago
@StereOasis93 by beating them when they were old and passed their prime ohh ohh no BIGGIE!!! even beat some of your legendary fighters over the hill, Chris Eubanks spring to mind but no Biggie
ben10wynton 1 month ago
@StereOasis93 yep he humiliated one of our greats who was way past his prime, good job. General consensus is that calzaghe is not that great and definitely not a legend. It doesn't matter what nationality you are.Nice try using the nationality card though.
SPRINGS02 1 month ago
@StereOasis93 don't you mean two? haha can't even spell mate, and we all know calzaghe is good, but he had nothing on either hopkins or jones in their primes.
RadioLosSantos100 2 days ago
Please, find another sport to follow. The Jones who was PFP #1 with catlike reflexes and the greatest athleticism ever granted to a boxer would have murdered Slappy Joe. You're simply a moron if you can't see that. Hell, this shot to shit version of Jones knocked down this fraud. Imagine what he would have done when he had a pulse.
SantiagoRaga1975 2 months ago
CYMRU AM BYTH!
khole13 2 months ago
American commentators biased and suck haha
eamster79 2 months ago
What makes me laugh is how they make out Joe is the youngster in this fight. The truth is Calzaghe wanted to fight Jones for the past 10 yrs and Roy didn't want it. We now know why.
sugarraygras 2 months ago
Jone's style was based purely on physical ability. He was all raw athleticism: speed, reflexes, and explosiveness. He suffered the curse of not needing to learn the basics because he was good enough naturally.
Because his fundamentals were severely lacking, when his raw physical ability declined, he had NOTHING to go on! He couldn't fall back on "proper" boxing technique because he had never had to learn it!
FSMNoodlyAppendage 2 months ago 16
@FSMNoodlyAppendage agreed Jones was athletically the best boxer ive ever seen his reflexes were amazing but he always had his flaws.you get some people on you tube who seriously think he could have beat Lewis or a Klitschko when he stepped up to heavyweight that always makes me laugh even though i loved Jones at his best and knew he would beat Ruiz.Calzaghe was underated but prime for prime you would have to fancy Jones
PCMURPH7 2 weeks ago
@FSMNoodlyAppendage i box to,same shit me and my coach said,his trainers and coaches should have known and fixed it early on,if you watch the 3rd fight with him and tarver, when jones gets wobble in the later rounds its because he drops his hands after a hook,when he was younger he could do that and get away cuz he was fast as shit
cvbo3 2 days ago
If this was in 2003, Jones wins end of story. Real shame what has happened to him. He should have quit after Ruiz.
tomabwhite 2 months ago
@tomabwhite Calzaghe undefeated and Champion for over 10yrs.
sugarraygras 2 months ago
@tomabwhite agreed
MBishop85 2 months ago
If you want a buzz watch Boxing with dubsteb in the background with a pint in your hand.
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
Hbo Commentaters are the worst! full of shit.
wl6309 3 months ago
JOE CALZAGHE UNDEFEATED YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
sammybhoy1984 3 months ago
listen to em.jones got owned haha
hardcorecentauri 3 months ago
lol niggers hate a white skinned man who can fight!! BLACK AMERICAN REFEREES= MOST RACIST IN THE WORLD
88bluebirds 3 months ago
no one wud fight calzaghe they were all scared! u cn only fight whos put in front of u n all of usa after the lacy massacre were running scared
Dabromsta 3 months ago
good fight, good video!
TheUniverseNow 3 months ago
This was like watching Roy fight HIMSELF about 8years prior...
PhflyDan1 4 months ago
@PhflyDan1 If Roy himself was slow and had no power and slapped and was doing a half assed impersonation of himself
pearcemark2 4 months ago
max kellerman god that guy chats some shit i watch paul williams vs martinez the rematch what a punch by martinez to end the fight and then mad max ask p williams why he could not take the punch what a turd from thee seer
ThePiranha10 4 months ago
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username7212345 4 months ago
@EmeraldIsleStar Wasnt that when Jones was at Heavyweight and around 34 years old!
username7212345 4 months ago
I agree with ya, I like kalzagi, good boxer, duo he did duck jones and hopkins when thay calld him out, fuck it,
zazaabbass14 4 months ago
I'm British and I cant stand Calzaghe. I think his record looks good but he has fought some truly awful opposition and took the big fights when they didnt mean anything. Roy Jones anytime before 2003/4 would have handed Calzaghes ass to him.
joevtr 5 months ago
@joevtr Thank god there are sensible brits. I was beginning to think every last one was on Calzaghe's nuts.
pearcemark2 4 months ago
@pearcemark2 thank you mate, there are some of us who are sensible. Fact is, Calzaghe took "dangerous" fights when they werent really dangerous. The only fight in recent memory I can give the guy any credit for was against Kessler, his clowning against Roy was disrespectful to a guy who has achieved far more than he ever did and it only happened because he knew he could get away with it. Roy, Bernard, Toney when he was middleweight, Benn, Eubank in his prime (not the version Joe fought) Barkley
joevtr 3 months ago
@pearcemark2 are all examples of fights that Calzaghe wouldnt have taken with these guys in their prime, anyone who disagrees has really smoked too much greenery.
joevtr 3 months ago
@joevtr no your english.
No one from wales, ireland or scotland calls themselves british only when it suits
jonafromwales 3 months ago
@jonafromwales English, British, whatever, fact is "british" people have a reputation for loving the home fighters too much, Joe was good, but not great.
joevtr 3 months ago
@joevtr in your opinion.
At the end of the day, it is what it is.
jonafromwales 3 months ago
@jonafromwales In my opinion, the opinion of many other fight fans and the opinion I am sure of many boxing writers and insiders who know far more than you or I. Fact is, have a look through Calzaghes record, other than a win over a 6 year past his best Jones, a highly debatable decision against Bernard Hopkins and an impressive wins over an over rated Jeff Lacy and a relatively handy Kessler, Calzaghe's record is totally unsubstantiated. There is no one he has beaten of any quality really.
joevtr 3 months ago
@joevtr Maybe true, but Calzaghe was not in his prime either when he fought Hopkins or Jones. In fact, one can say that alot of people ducked fighting Joe when he was in HIS prime.
cegtown 3 months ago
@cegtown Who? I mean I honestly cant think of a fighter who ducked Joe in his prime. He held the WBO world title, hardly the most prestigious and as champ, his record stinks a little bit. In my view.
joevtr 3 months ago
@cegtown If any reason that anyone ducked Calzaghe was because he wasn't a marquee fighter. His name didn't put bum on seats. He went off and on Sky Sports quicker than a yo-yo... then he was on ITV... hell even in the U.K. he was barely surviving.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 3 months ago
@cegtown His record isn't as great as ppl make it out to be. The only wins of his career that were with prime opposition were Lacy and Kessler. Lacy was never in my eyes a top ten P4P fighter. He certainly looked that way when Calzaghe laced him up and sent him back to the States. Kessler was a very good fighter when Calzaghe fought him but his even better NOW. Hopkins and Jones were poor performances from Calzaghe. He got lucky against Hopkins... I thought Hopkins landed the "cleaner" shots.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 3 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD Piss off,ya full of shit.Same could be said of floyd gayweather then.Hes faught fuck all either if ya look properly.Joe beat them ALL.Nuff said ya fuckin bum.
anthonyp43 3 months ago
@anthonyp43 Ya fag of ya SCALLYWAG Welsh bastard! Floyd Mayweather is P4P the BEST IN THE WORLD! 5 weight world champion... 7 time world champion... no introduction necessary... everyone in boxing has a high opinion of him. Nuff said. HO! Ya fucking beer drinking fat waste of space. Go back to the cardboard box you came from!
NazhitsREALLYHARD 3 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD I like floyd ya fuckin cocksucker,but compared to the likes of henry armstrong and that,even floyd s record means shit.Go take a boxing history lesson ya tit,ansd remember ass hole,even CASTILLO won that first fight with floyd ,now fuck off you stupid yank cunt.
anthonyp43 3 months ago
@anthonyp43 No Floyd DID win the first fight... his superior jab and defensive skills got the judges attention. As for Henry Armstrong your argument is as decisive as a someone sitting in a programme of Jeremy Kyle! Henry Armstrong was in an era where fighters earned peanuts... that's why he fought soo often because Welterweights them days didn't get the publicity. Joe Louis was stealing his limelight. Now you go off and learn history you UGLY BASTARD! Blocked!
NazhitsREALLYHARD 3 months ago
@cegtown
He wasnt in hes prime when he fought Hopkins??
What do you base that on ? Perhaps that he had hes best performances prior to fighting B-hop?
Dont say that he just turned 36 because then we should give him no cred for hes win over a 43 year old B-hop.
The fact is that some fighters can keep there prime longer then others and there is nothing that suggest that Joe
was slipping.
The same could not been said for Roy, he was 3 and 3 with 2 ko losses prior to facing Joe.
korvstopparen 3 months ago
@korvstopparen No Joe wasnt slipping. In fact he may have gotten better with age and experience. But 36 is not the prime age for boxing. We won't know what Joe could have done at a younger age versus these fighters because it didnt happen. All we have are these real results. Anything else is speculation.
cegtown 3 months ago
@cegtown
You cant say that 36 isnt a prime age for boxing, its different for every fighter.
There are alot of examples of boxer having their prime late in their career and Joe looked great in hes last fights.
So making a claim that he wasnt in hes prime is making no sense.
Your right we dont no what would have happend if Joe fought Roy in hes prime but the same could be said for Berbick vs Ali.
Ofcourse we have to say that Berbick is better because thats what the record book shows...
korvstopparen 3 months ago
@korvstopparen I agree completely with that statement, it does seem the fighters styles decide how long they will be prime, i feel its the more technical fighters who keep there primes longer than the knockout aggressive artists, because finess skills in boxing never really leave you, but you have to keep everything fresh, Reactions speed etc.
BiggieSmalls11111 3 months ago
Is roys trainer morgan freeman?
matthewgleason75 5 months ago
Man calzaghe fought jones and hopkins when they were over the hill well not really hopkins but he was still 43 years old and calzaghe still barely beat both of them! That hopkins fight could of been a draw being that hopkins damn near knocked his asss out in the first round! and jones checked his weak chin aswell in the first round!
vvyperr7 5 months ago
@vvyperr7 they both called calzaghe out jones got outclassed completely and hopkins fought like a scared bitch if they were in ther prime calzaghe wouldve took them seriously and beat them even worse
poczapsky69 5 months ago
@poczapsky69 Took them seriously? You can't know boxing talking like this,they both knock him down in the first round! To a boxer(and i used to box) i still train but i don't ring right anymore, and as an boxer i know when you get put on your ass believe me you take that fight from there on out very seriously! That being said cal barely escape with victory against them over there primes! Any trainer will tell you don't assume shit don't step in that ring thinking it's gonna be a dog walk!
vvyperr7 5 months ago
@vvyperr7 Look Calzaghe had to move up in weight to fight Hopkins as is the case with most of Hopkins fights high profile fights 'Oscar De La Hoya' having to make Hopkins weight being another example. Hopkins style is such that age isn't really an issue, he just plods at a slow pace which suits him or otherwise he'd be fighting classier guys at supermiddle. Roy Jones is shot but then this isn't Calzaghe in his prime either.
HellbringerUK 5 months ago
@HellbringerUK i agree hopkins at his age his style fits him plus old dude can scrap (box) but he was 43 joe was 36 thats pretty significant! Yeah he finally moved up in weight when them boyz got old! hell i'll take a mid 30's joe over a early 43 hopkins (slightly), and a joe over a completely shot jones who still did alright in that fight!
vvyperr7 5 months ago
@vvyperr7 i'd agree age is an issue in Jones case because of Jones' style of fighting relying on movement and speed but BHOP is and always has been slower,more methodical and has a far lower workrate. Joe took the fight at lightheavy against BHOP and it was Joes first. If Joe had any sense he'd have had BHOP make supermiddle where Joe was more comfortable. Whether your a fan of Joes or not, nobody at supermiddle has ever had his workrate.
HellbringerUK 5 months ago
Oh ye lets fight Roy Jones when he is over the hill, way to go CALZAGHE. clap clap clap, or should i say slap slap slap, He just happend to be in an era where there were no good fighters. Hes well overated.
mikeleehez 5 months ago
i do enjoy this thourough beating of jones CALZAGHE UNDISPUTED SUPER MIDDLE WEIGHT OF THE WOOORRRRRLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
norfolknchance100 5 months ago
CALZAGHE WAS THE CHAMP
arncj18 5 months ago
lol at 7.14
urbansoulzz 5 months ago
NEWS ALERT: WELSH CHERRY PICKING SNAKE ATTACKS MAN: News just in, WELSH CHERRY PICKING SNAKE JOE CALZAGHE has struck again, EXPERTS are not suprised, there was always a SLAP in the TAIL! EXPERTS also say the CHERRY PICKING SNAKE has developed a TASTE for OLD MEN who are a DECADE out of their PRIME! They also say the SNAKE learned to SLAP because it's PUNCHES are USELESS! The SNAKE is not VENOMOUS but does spit TOMATO JUICE at people! EXPERTS say it's because it's ADDICTED to TOMATO CANS!
JoeCalzagheTheCoward 5 months ago
@JoeCalzagheTheCoward YOUR REAL PROFILE IS DARNESS1234
farrell360 5 months ago
@farrell360 probably that asshole 'bobsino' as well. The guy just cut 'n' pastes all day long, the same old crap. I'm beggining to think he doesn't have many braincells. What a sad life opening numerous accounts just to do that.
HellbringerUK 5 months ago
This is proof that rjj would of easily beaten calzaghe if both were in there primes.
UnaSerpiente 5 months ago
Clothesline from hell....
ph1484 5 months ago
I dont understand to this day how Calzaghe went down on that punch. I mean Roy's kind of old and in my opinion had lost most of his power at this point. To be honest I think Calzaghe did that out of fear of a super flurry coming or something cus I know for a fact he can take that baby punch Roy had given him.
Zachrydaman 6 months ago
@Zachrydaman LOl You know for a 'fact'...? I'd love to know where you're getting your facts from. You could be right for all I know, but I can't prove or disprove your opinion. aha but it did make me laugh a little :)
Rezinator2C2 5 months ago
@Zachrydaman Power doesn't fade nearly as much as speed with age.
ScionAscendant 5 months ago
@ScionAscendant I should have made myself more clear. What I meant was Roy didn't lose his power but more of his committment to it. He really had stopped throwing as many power punches at this point in his career and even when he did they weren't fully committed. I remember back in the day he used to lunge his whole body into the left hook as well as the right straight.
Zachrydaman 5 months ago
@Zachrydaman Ah I see what you mean. He probably knows that he doesn't have the super-human reflexes he used to to get away with loading up his shots. It could definitely be a psychological thing on Clazaghe's part, like you were saying. He has a history of this happening. It's kind of odd, really.
ScionAscendant 5 months ago
@ScionAscendant jones never loaded up with his shots he just deliverd them instantly
tonyteb 5 months ago
@Zachrydaman as long as you hit the that perfect spot on the chin usually it dont take much power to knock someone down..
JUKEBOXX1990 5 months ago
@lastruebeliever Well what I'm saying is Jones is in most ppl's top 10 p4p all time and is known as the most superior athlete to ever step in the boxing ring with his size, speed of foot and hand, reflexes, etc etc. Also the only guy to go from junior middle up to heavy and win. Calzaghe got him when he was old and lost all that superior athleticism that made him great and he had lost any chin he used to have before hitting 200 and coming back.
Zachrydaman 6 months ago
RJJ up to 2004 was/is my idol. The unfortunate thing is that his style was based off athleticism and quick reflexes.The second that those dropped under 100%, his career took a steep downfall. That's why guys like Hopkins are still doing great, he has a style based off intelligence and tactics as opposed to quick reflexes. Still, RJJ up to 2004 is the greatest boxer I have ever watched in my life.
estebancruz90 6 months ago
This was not Roy Jones Jr, this was a pale shadow of Roy Jones Jr - he was over 40 i think, still good enough to knock that fraud Calzaghe down.
A prime Jones Jr would have wiped the floor with Calzaghe in 2/3 rounds. How did Calzaghe establish 46 - 0 record - by fighting very poor quality opponents.
Danazawa 6 months ago
@Danazawa typical comment before research: jones was 39 in this fight with calzaghe only 3 years younger.. there was a very small difference in age, ur point is invalid. Also you talk about Calzaghe's weak opponents, however how many good opponents did jones face honestly? HOWEVER i would agree with you about prime jones vs prime Calzaghe, jones would most likely have won.
k4zr4 6 months ago
@lastruebeliever Lol he is a fighting machine and one of the best of his time but he's not up there with Jones and Hopkins in terms of all time legacy. But I do see where your coming from.
Zachrydaman 6 months ago
Noirvids u don't know what u r talkin about ali.changed his style in the mid 70's
robberealsr1982 6 months ago
@robberealsr1982 Ya thats what noirvids said.. he didn't change his style like Ali did when ali had lost some foot speed.
Zachrydaman 6 months ago
"perfect punch" - emannuel steward
YUZO2kxx 6 months ago
What happened with Roy is His body changed and his speed left him and he did not change his style ala muhammed ali...he still wants to be on his wheels the whole fight and he physically cant anymore....also some of the nerve and will may be gone after the 2 knockouts at this time. Not taking anything away from Joe..You cant....the fact is both fighters got in the ring. Who is past their prime or prime dont matter...they got in. It can be argued who would of won..but we dont know.
Noirvids1 6 months ago
first off calzag never had a prime, 2nd off you said he would have "likely" beat him, tht dont sound sure, cos u kno da truth, and 3rd off i never said was all about power, thts why roys no good here, all power lost his quikness...ur a dumb fuck, if u actually believe he woulda beat roy in his prime, what a lame nut u r
nae8man87 6 months ago
a prime roy jones would have been different...this was no roy jones of the past
coolmartcola 6 months ago
You can't win if you don't commit to your power punches. Roy Jones Jr. just lost his killer instinct.
universe112 6 months ago
What did the trainer say when Joe said he didn't see the punch coming?
Thoragz 6 months ago
WHEN I WATCHED THE FIGHT I THOUGHT AT THE BEGINNING ROY WILL BEAT THAT ASS.DAMN LOOK AT 3:37.
MrKilluminati248 6 months ago
Great champion Calzaghe
s13hgp 6 months ago
super JOE
thebigfella221 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Sit here arguing with me point for point for HOURS AT A TIME
claim you don't have the time because you have a life
HAAHAHAHAHAH what a retarded cunt
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Remember when Froch was the mandatory challenger and pussy Calzaghe chose to vacate rather than face him?
Classic.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 So now mexico isn't part of north america?
News to me ROFL YOU STUPID BRIT CUNT
How's your yellow teeth? Have some more tea.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Remember when you tried sending over towelhead Naseem Hamed and he got demolished?
That was fucking classic.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Remember when Ricky Hatton came out and got OBLITERATED by Mayweather? My lord that was beautiful.
2 undefeated fighters, 1 mighty american, 1 british bum, BRIT BUM GOES DOWN! HE GOES DOWN!
Don't even get me started on what Pacman did to him.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 He wasn't a bum when you sent him over. He was your next Tyson.
Then Roy KO's him and now he's a bum? BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Remember when you guys tried sending undefeated Clinton Woods over here?
That was fucking hilarious how he didn't even land 3 punches, got clowned on, and got promptly KO'd. Classic.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 He never even won the title when he had a brit trainer, he was AWARDED it. ROFL
And you're a fool if you think he beat McCall in "spectacular fashion". The motherfucker was literally CRYING IN THE RING because he was a psycho lunatic. He was walking around with his hands down, not even trying to fight, just making weird faces. And STILL Lennox barely jumped on him to finish.
Lennox the jamaican canadian bum, KO'd by 2 mighty americans. Don't be jelly bro.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Lewis only REALLY took off when he took AMERICAN offensive based trainer Emanuel Steward.
Before that he was busy getting KO'd by bums like Oliver McCall LMAO
Way to go, brit trainers
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 You TRAIN to get your balance and agility to its peak. You TRAIN to get stronger. You TRAIN to hit harder.
Are you a fucking retard? Lennox Lewis in 1998 would BEAT THE FUCKING PISS out of Lennox Lewis, the kid who had his first professional fight.
Holy shit, what a dumbass.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 First of all, "Timbuktu", and second, you're not born with natural skill. You have to be taught. Some people learn faster and therefore would be "a natural", but nobody comes out of the womb a champion boxer. It takes YEARS of hard work and experience, and drilling it over and over and over and over.
That doesn't come from being born in between imaginary borders, it comes from the work you put in.
In Lennox's case, under canadian trainers in Canada, not the UK
LMFAO
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 That was just a quote I reworked from an old fighter who said something like "When I win I'm British, but when I lose I'm Scottish"
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 "He claimed he'd always considered himself British,[6][7][8] but many British fans regard him as "a Canadian at heart and a Briton for convenience", as he had trained only in Canada and the United States and already lived half his life in North America."
HA, the fucker never even learned to fight in the UK. He learned in Canada and America, and spent his entire teenage and young adult years here.
Yet you guys claim him. ROFL
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Holyfield, another american fighter?
Let's not forget the gift decision Lennox got over Ray Mercer, who had that fucker's face swollen like never before.
Isn't Lennox really a jamaican canadian anyway? His british accent is such a put on, he slips in and out of it every 4 words.
He won so you claim him, but if he lost, he'd just be that loser canadian to you.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Peak has NOTHING to do with age and everything to do with performance you moron. Tyson peaked extremely early, and a bunch of bad decisions lead to his downfall.
The Razor Ruddock fights were really big fights. There's no denying it, it's dumb to act like they weren't.
By the way, the bum that KO'd Tyson also beat Oliver McCall in a decision, who went on to KO your precious Lennox Lewis.
And let's not forget the bum Rahman who ALSO KO'd Lewis' glass jaw ass
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 The 90's was the best time as far as freak show Tyson goes, because everyone was terrified of him and he was talking and acting crazy.
He solds out 3 straight shows that got over a million PPV buys, CRAZY draw.
Then in 96 and 97, Holyfield beat his ass twice when everyone thought Holy was done.
And only then, 3 years later in 2000, did Lennox beat Holy. And the fucked up thing is, Lewis got screwed on the draw, but the second time Holy got screwed with the loss.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 You clearly know nothing about boxing, as you have your facts and timeline WAY mixed up.
Tyson's boxing peak was in 88, but he never fought a fellow prime fighter. After that he fired Kevin Rooney and stopped training, hired yes men to be in his corner, spent all day partying and fucking, and his boxing went to shit. This got him KO'd by a bum, but he still went on to fight Razor Ruddock in 2 big fights before prison. Then after prison, he was HUGE for a couple years.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 "if you class a bum whos last big fight was a loss to a 42/1 underdog fighting a man who lennox lewis had already beaten the last big thing happeneing in boxing haha"
What does this even MEAN?
You didn't see what america did with kickboxing? They've tried pushing it here for years, but under shitty rules, and it never caught on. It especially now, because why move backwards?
We had boxing, dominated, said "Fuck this is boring" and made a better sport to challenge ourselves
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 A gorilla clinches? HA, nice way to excuse your blatant racism. What heavyweight division? I can't remember anything happening at heavyweight since Tyson got beat by Holyfield. I thought that was the blowoff for the division? You learn something new every day.
America left boxing years ago, dude. We moved on to a new better sport. Real fighting, not just 1 dimension of it. And in that sport, your best fighter suffered of the most brutal KOs EVER (to an american BTW)
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 "clinches like a gorilla", "boxing in a zoo" ha, your racism is showing through loud and clear.
The commentators aren't judges. "Yanks" aren't biased at all, we don't give a FUCK where you're from as long as you're good. It's all you brits and every other country who acts like your shit don't stink and you blindly support your bums, because your countries are so tiny and insignifcant, it actually brings joy to your life if someone does well.
USA is used to our guys doing well
pearcemark2 6 months ago
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@saracen09767 The whole fight was in Bernard's rhythm. Calzaghe has never had a fight like that, because he wasn't fighting his style. He fought the fight Bernard wanted to fight.
He "never did anything" besides outbox Calzaghe for 7 of 12 rounds.
The commentators are idiots. They'll shill for whoever HBO wants them to at the moment and do EVERYTHING they can to disregard the other guy. It's happened for years, everyone knows this.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 What dirty tactics? The only one using dirty tactics in that fight was Joe, when he started punching him in the cock from round 2 on.
He didn't land close to a third of his punches. Joe might've landed 1 for every 5 he threw.
Compubox stats mean NOTHING. They've had 3 people in 3 different countries use the compubox system on the same fight, all 3 were WILDLY different results. It's not at all accurate or reliable.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
what dirty tactics!?!? if you're too stupid to see, then you'll be too stupid to understand if someone writes it down for you. you're a sad case.
and if the compubox is unreliable, can you tell me how many each fighter landed? because you're the expert, aren't you? hahahahahaha
seablock 6 months ago
@saracen09767 I didn't dub anyone anything.
Calzaghe proved nothing, as he never even beat Hopkins. He lost 7 rounds to a 43 year old man including a 10-8 from a knockdown. He was given a boxing lesson.
Poor fuck was lucky to get away with a split decision. If it weren't for the british crowd cumming at every one of his missed slaps, the judges wouldn't have been influenced it would've been a unanimous for B-Hop.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
hahahahaha, the fight was in america with 3 non british judge's... hopkins lost you fool. calzaghe beat him. look it up if you don't believe me. only in your biased mind did hopkins win. the crowd influenced no one, arsehole. calzaghe bent him over and dry humped him... like a bitch. hopkins knew his place that night
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock Calzaghe lost 7 rounds.
You don't win a boxing match when you get knocked down and lose 7 rounds. Sorry, kid. The guy's a fraud.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2 lol jones blocked calzaghes punches with his head
dewy9uk 6 months ago
@dewy9uk Same with Danny Green. And Denis Lebedev. And Antonio Tarver, twice. And Glen Johnson. And Bernard Hopkins. And very nearly Anthony Hanshaw.
There's a laundry list of people who beat the corpse of Roy Jones. Doesn't mean anything.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 He could've fought Pavlik BEFORE he fought Hopkins, idiot. When Pavlik was calling him out, and Joe was hiding fighting eurobums.
Joe ducked Glen Johnson 3 seperate times, including right after the Lacy fight. Who did he choose instead? Sakio Bika.
"Who?" you ask? FUCKING EXACTLY.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
before calzaghe fought hopkins, he fought kessler... who is a much better fighter than pavlik will ever be. then fought hopkins ( who then beat the shit out of the bum, pavlik, after calaghe had dealt with him) why would he need to fight an overrated bum like pavlik? that doesn't make any sense. and he didn't duck johnson you fool, he had hand injurys. when clinton woods beat johnson in the third fight, there was no need to fight him.
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock Besides Pavlik, he could've fought Taylor, Abraham, Froch, Ward, Dawson, Pascal, Tarver, rematch with Reid, rematch with Hopkins.
ANY FUCKING THING would've been better than to retire on a super controversial split decision against a 43 year old and then a fraudulent joke of a fight against a guy who never should've come out of retirement.
Horrendous way to cap off a career that was already mocked as being a joke prior to then. Worst possible ending Joe could've chosen.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
what!?!? calzaghe was 37 years old!! it was time to retire. he doesn't need to hang around in his 40's like so many do... that's stupid. he got out on top and at the right time.
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock B-Hop is 46 and still on top. You know why? He's got perfect technique.
Calzaghe, just like Jones, had a style based mostly on youth and speed rather than technique, which is why he'd have been KO'd numerous if he kept fighting to B-Hop's age.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Because I hate to break it to you, but everyone looks phenomenal fighting bums. That's why they're bums.
Calzaghe beat nothing. I just watched the fight again last night for the 4th or 5th time and once again, I had Hopkins clearly winning.
Calzaghe got rounds 5, 6, 8, 9, and 11. All the others were B-Hop. It was actually a much more decisive win for Hopkins than either Taylor fight, but that was because B-Hop chose not to do ANYTHING for the first 7 rounds for some reason.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
if calzaghe beat no one, then a lot of the american fighters beat no one. you stay at home cowards. always want to fight at home don't you?
ward in a competition that's international - stay at home coward. ripping fighters off with the refs and judges that the american cheats like so much.
bradley - yet another american fighter scared of a brit. if he ever finds the courage, khan will make him his bitch.
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock Stop responding to each individual comment you sociopath.
HAHAHHAAHHA you delusional sissy.
Americans don't have to leave america because IT'S MADE UP OF 50 FUCKING MINI-COUNTRIES WITHIN ITSELF.
The reason you eurobums have to travel is because you live in tiny shitholes that are the size of an individual state in the US.
To be the king of Wales is like being the king of Chattanooga. It's not an accomplishment.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
any fighter from around the world can fight in the UK. it's not just for british fighters. if any fighter has the courage to travel ( not the yanks, their cowards) then they are welcome to. every country does it a lot. the only country not to, is your country. you clearly are an idiot, though. you criticised me for replying to all your posts, then do the same thing yourself. too stupid.
this is the last post as you are a waste of time.
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock Remember when Hopkins traveled to Canada twice and beat a young punk for the belt?
You should, he just did.
Remember when Hopkins offered to fly to the UK for a Calzaghe rematch in Millennium Stadium and pussyboy declined? You should, it's happened for the past 3 years and they just met up a few weeks ago and discussed it again, with pussyboy once again declining.
He knows he got a gift that night. That's why he retired. He knew he'd have to face B-Hop again and couldn't do it
pearcemark2 6 months ago
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@pearcemark2 You are in denial !
s13hgp 6 months ago
@pearcemark2 B-hop LOST. Get over it. You can't try to hold on to a guy for 12 rounds and expect to win. Sure it was an awkward fight and not a style that suited Calzaghe. But Calzaghe WON. End of. Your boy was DEFEATED. LET IT GO.
GraemeTheDestructor 6 months ago 2
@GraemeTheDestructor Well no, you actually CAN hold a guy 12 rounds and expect to win, because holding does not add or detract points. Clean effective punching scores points.
Bernard was hitting Calzaghe with clean effective punches more effectively than Calzaghe was hitting Bernard with clean effective punches, for at least 7 of 12 rounds, including a knockdown.
Which means Calzaghe lost.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
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MrBbuds 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Hopkins was 43 when Joe fought him.
The Tarver bought was hyped as his retirement fight. He was going to go out winning the title, and he did go into semi-retirement as he didn't fight for over a year after that.
Kelly Pavlik, another fighter Joe blatantly ducked. Thank you for mentioning him. Joe ducked him, Hopkins destroyed him.
When exactly was Calzaghe's prime? Because I heart his bullshit from Calzaghe fans a lot. When exactly was this "prime?" When he fought bums?
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
are you saying that hopkins wasn't credible? he was the no.1 at the weight, and THE champ. you are a dick!!
calzaghe ducked a drunk, overrated american level bum did he? hahahahaha.
calzaghe's was in his prime from 98 to 2003/2004.
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock Calzaghe never beat Hopkins. B-Hop took 7 rounds including a knockdown. Just watched the fight again for a 5th time last night.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
for the 5th time in total, or the 5th time that night? if it's the latter, then you're clearly a sad case who can't get over the fact that hopkins lost. get a life!
seablock 6 months ago
@saracen09767 HAHAHHA, that super middleweight light heavyweight tangent you just went on shows me that you're a fucking idiot who knows nothing about boxing, but then the FUCKING HILARIOUS part is how you went on to name a bunch of fighters Calzaghe never had the balls to fight.
Froch was the mandatory challenger to his belts and Calzaghe ducked him. As soon as the 168 division showed any signs of life, Calzaghe got the FUCK out of there and ran to fight 40 year old men who had retired.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
calzaghe should have fought froch, bute, ward etc etc back then? hahahahaha. are you trying to tell me that fighting froch (who had done fuck all at that point) would of been a better opponent than hopkins? get out of here you retard, you're too stupid to be posting!. you might want to check the dates with the others... this will tell you that you're an idiot who doesn't know shit on the subject at hand.
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock How about you fight them after, then?
How about you fight ANYBODY worth mentioning?
If I had a record as weak and padded and as shit as Calzaghe, I would sure as fuck want to fight all the contenders until people regarded me as the undisputed best.
Hopkins doesn't have to, he already created a phenomenal legacy, but at 46 he's STILL breaking records and making history, cementing him as easily one of the GOAT.
Joe doesn't crack the top 100.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@saracen09767 Calzaghe is a coward for staying at super middleweight, a fake weight class with no worthy fighters, rather than commit to either middleweight or light heavy so that he can actually fight real fighters.
He's also a coward for fighting in europe against nobodies, making zero effort to make himself marketable in the states, and act like the real champions are "ducking" him because they wouldn't fly to the UK to fight a fake champion in a fake weight class.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
@pearcemark2
you're too stupid! calzaghe fought everyone who was around. who should he have fought? calzaghe was also a natural SM who had difficulty making the weight... and you're saying he should have moved 8lbs down? you fucking retard! all the american fighters who fight only in america are also cowards, then. the hopkins fight in 2002 was planned for the states numb nuts. hopkins ducked after getting what he wanted.. not calzaghe. get your facts straight.
seablock 6 months ago
@seablock If he's a "natural", he wouldn't have problems making the weight, and if he had such weight problems, MOVE THE FUCK UP TO A REAL WEIGHT CLASS LIKE LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
Don't wait 20 years and move up just to fight 2 40 year olds like a bitch. Do it when it counts.
Idiot, america is the boxing capital of the world. Why the fuck would you fly to a country with 3 million people when there's a CITY in america with 8 million? Makes no sense.
pearcemark2 6 months ago
amazing zoe..!
karwan051 6 months ago in playlist BRITAIN KINGDOM
Roy actually looked slow in the Trinidad fight and Anthony Hanshaw fight prior to this fight. So Calzaghe fans...He was past his peak before this fight took place.
No legs and those cat quick reflexes arent there. Roy used to be able to nail you with a hook from 10 feet away. No way does Calzaghe come in hands down against 1993-1997 Roy Jones. Also Roy back then had better energy and conditioning cause he was younger
bscottdp 6 months ago
Roy tested for Rip Fuel...Not steroids. The loss in speed was moving up to 1999 pounds than dropping back to 175 at 35 years old. Look at Ray Leonard against Norris when he dropped back to 154. He looked weak and slow.
Also speed fighters usually deteriorate in there early to mid 30's