I am Australian. I got sucked into the terrorist story just like everyone else did in the years following the event. The 911 Commission report looks deceptive. When are the people of the US going to demand justice. What is obama going to do about this. When is Bush Cheney & Rumsfeldt going to stand trial. There are to many holes.
I MUST ADD TO MY PREVIOUS COMMENT, THAT THE INITIAL IGNITION OF A THERMITE REACTION MAY BE AIDED BY THE USE OF SULFUR. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE ENTIRE THERMITE "COMPOUND" USED CONTAINED IT. NOR AM I SAYING THAT IT WAS ESSENTIAL, BUT WAS TO THE DISCREATION OF THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY CONTRACTED TO DO WORK. ALSO, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH MATERIALS BEING PRESENT FROM OTHER ACTIVITIES, SUCH AS FROM THE FOUNDRYS WHERE THE BEAMS WERE MADE. THINK AGAIN. THINK AGAIN. THINK AGAIN. THINK AGAIN!!!
DURING THE EARLY STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE TOWERS, A DEEP EXCAVATION WAS FORMED FOR NOT ONLY THE BASEMENT, BUT FOUNDATIONS ALSO. A GREAT DEAL OF AVCTIVITY BY WAY OF METAL CUTTING OF VERY HEAVY STEEL BEAMS, AS WELL AS REJOINING THEM, WOULD HAVE OCCURRED. THERMITE IS A METAL WORKERS' TOOL FOR SUCH WORK.... UNTILL PROOVEN OTHERWISE, IT CAN BE WELL ASSUMED THERMITE WAS USED EXTENSEVLY. IT CAN BE ASSUMED THAT WORKERS SAW NO REAL NEED TO REMOVE ALL IT'S TRACES. THINK AGAIN, YOU UNEDUCATED LAYMEN!!
jews did 911 i swear americans dont just know nd jews disgiused as terrorist nd bush was at florida at a skool reading a book 4 kids nd wen he heard they were attacked he sat there nd did noting like a little bitch asshole i feel sorry for americans that r living in a blind place DAMN JEWS.
i think the people who are coming forth with all this info are the ones who did it because isnt it said that the killer allways returns to the sceen of the crime
and in this case it would be the bomber but i think they did it!
Bush was on the first plane to hit WTC and parachuted out at the last minute shouting "mission accomplished!". If you look at the film footage you can see his parachute, it says "Don't mess with Texas" on it.
Dick Cheney piloted the other plane that crashed into the WTC. He died and the GOP replaced him with a robot clone. For real.
That's why that guy got shot hunting, a Cheney-bot shot him.
Its funny that some people just ignore this "officla story killing" evidence, seriosly, the thermite alone is proof that this attack was wanted, and planted in advance, 7 of the hijackers are still alive, and most importantly, you cant hijack a plane, let alone 4 on 1 day you retards, if these terrorists are so pro as they are saying you would expect them to focus their attacks on isreal, whitch they were trying to take over of hundreds of years.
Bush act more like bush-bot - recalling delays, gestures, sorting routine delays. CIA finally, controlled USA thru a bush-bot.
Cheney seems like an ugly retired hooker x-dressing in likeness of an old man - that explains duck shooting accident. Took too many shots at her from rich men's family jewels and now payback time.
"It's the question that drives us..."... Trinity from the Matrix... It's more true than you might think. The answer is to educate your fellow humans. The more who know the facts the more will wake up the weaker they will get. Their power is in brainwashing, asleepness and ignorance, and secrecy. End the secrecy, end the brainwashing, end the ignorance. It's OUR planet. OUR countries. The PEOPLE own it. CANCEL THE DEBT. It's only credit in a computer anyway. They can take it.
These ppl are very few and dont really ve much power over majority. They just hope we live day to day in stress and when weekend comes we get weaker with booze and drugs ... and so on... wake up and start talking to ur neighbors.
Powerful united neighborhoods will awaken local politicians who are part of this crooked hierarchy. Thats the only way to make them shit in pants. All have to rise.
In Phillipines that's how they brot dn dictator Marcos who treated ppl like dirt bags, same here ...
i wonder if there was a mini nuke or other super new high tech bomb in the elevator shaft because of the way the debris shoots up with a plume when the building demolition occurs. the building goes down and the debris shoots upward and outward. also should be noted how much of the building was turned to a fine powder which demonstrates great and intense explosive force. it was turned to powder before it hit the ground. this was done with explosives, probably the newest and most powerful.
that is one thing about the high-tech weapons culture, they always have to use it on something. it should also be noted when Israel recently attacked Lebanon they used high tech "DIME" tungsten weapons. Also, reports in Iraq of people burned in cars in weird precise ways, either microwave or tungsten dime weapons. doctors said "what is this?"
Watch the movie "The panama deception". They United States was using Laser weapons on civilians in Panama in the early '90's. Bush senior is the most depraved sick human being on the planet. Ok, he has peers, but he's way up their, he makes Hitler look like a freaking NEWB at being an evil depraved psycho.
Seen your ques. thought I would offer this. Mini Nuke aka LOW YIELD THERMONUCLEAR DEVICE.
Normally not used/planned to demolish structures, there are better conventional weapons for that job. In fact its use is Anti-personnel, kills people and leaves they building intact. Nice.
Yes it is public knowledge, developed around the late 60s.
Its effect can be found on certain web sites like this one, if they haven't censored it. You can also try DiscloseTV.
There is a story floating around concerning high tech weapons that "helped out" during the Op in NYC. The Navy has been playing around with "LOW WAVE" energy. When the wave is pointed at an object, the frequency basicly shatters the object. Developed with friends at DARPA.
That was sarcasm... These guys were slapping hight 5, dancing etc... And then there were 60 Israeli with military training, explosive training who got arrested after 911. The information regarding their involvement with 911 is now ''classified''. And we all know why that is.
It was reported on Fox news. According to a CIA official the Israeli connection to 911 is classified! But we know they were expert in explosives, spying etc..
I was 2 blocks from the WTC on 9/11. The molten metal was from jet fuel burning off. There was high security inside the WTC BEFORE 9-11 with the FBI and NYC's Counterterrorism Task Force as tenants -- and I worked for the Mayor's office. The ONLY conspiracy was al Q'aida's.
Jet fuel does not burn nearly hot enough to melt steel in IDEAL circumstances, let alone to heat the WTC's structurally strengthened steel to yellow / white hot as we see here. Look it up.
MediaCop.....Wow.. you just made a point here...Its been said that some unusual power shut downs appeared in WTC like 2 week before 9/11. AND why high security? Why FBI? Why so many CTF mans entered the WTC with EQUIPMENT????
Dammmmn...must be the FBI or CT Force who putted the charges of thermite.
No Rymen, Giuliani put the NYC response team into the WTC, just a block from City Hall. The FBI negotiated with the Port Authority for their office space. There was no thermite or other explosive residues found. These would have spread out for blocks...and you could even smell them...don't need dogs.
Ok but why so many man entered the building if it was only an Negotiation? I meen if FBI are involved why couldnt Giuliani.I meen terrorist dont study how to demolish buildings....ENGINEERS do..Physicians..etc
Terrorists are formed in battles,arms,wepons...but not in Structures Analysis,Statics or Dynamics.
This is a job of a PRO...Even in regular building demolitions, there's sometimes failure. There's something wrong.And I obviously dont trust CNN,ABC,FOX...cuz they hiding info.
No inside job. It was an outside job. Al Qauida's. Ramsey Youssef started it in 93, entered the US on an Iraqi passport issued him by Saddam's secret service, the Muhkhabbarrat. He escaped with the same Iraqi passport and his Operation Bojinga plot was foiled by the Philippine police in Manila 1995. Al Qaida all the way to 9-11.
Mediacop: Are you all with it in the head??? Just asking because jet fuel does NOT burn HOT ENOUGH to melt steel. Everybody knows that except for you obviously. Even Bush puppets and sheep like you have resigned to this fact...so why do you back track???? Dont you have anything else substantial to say? Oh and YOUR conspiricy is al Q'aida, ours is Bush.
"Just asking because jet fuel does NOT burn HOT ENOUGH to melt steel."
That's why there wasn't any melted steel. This clip shows molten aluminum alloy from the aircraft pouring out of the tower. Here's what the molten aluminum alloy looks like:
Photographs, and NIST simulations of the aircraft impact, show large piles of debris in the 80th and 81st floors of WTC 2 near the site where the glowing liquid eventually appeared. Much of this debris came from the aircraft itself and from the office furnishings that the aircraft pushed forward as it tunneled to this far end of the building.
I find it hard to belive there were pics from inside of the 80th floor of the burning aircraft!! And NIST are only assuming in their simulations which in my book the last i knew, assuming was not FACT. And office furniture does not burn orange and cool to silver....sorry.
You did. You said there were photographs of large piles of debris on the 80th floor!!! Only pics on the inside would show that, so then u r stating that the pics then must have been taken from the inside then arent you!
Computer models cannot simulate exactly what happened on sept 11. If its not accurate then its not reliable. If its not reliable then its not believeable! Thanks NIST for trying though.
And YOU SAID the office furniture was pushed by the aircraft to that corner where the molten metal poured out, not me!
Ok, so what about FEMA's acknowledgement of Thermate? They do nothing to explain that it WAS found at the bases. I wonder why! Maybe you can enlighten us!
"You did. You said there were photographs of large piles of debris on the 80th floor!!! Only pics on the inside would show that, so then u r stating that the pics then must have been taken from the inside then arent you!"
So you think the building did not have windows.
"Computer models cannot simulate exactly what happened on sept 11"
It has a high degree of probability, and when backed up by photographic evidence, you can pretty much confirm it.
Please!!! Dont make me laugh! Nothing can be 'confirmed' as fact by a computer generated simulation. NIST talk about 'global collapse' and collase initiation but NOT about the collapse itself. I mean what is 'global collapse' anyway. Talk about making up new terms to suit themselves.
NIST have failed to explain in their 'computer simulations' how a steel and concrete building with a steel and concrete core fell 10 floors a SECOND. Do you realise how absurd that is, to have us believe this could happen without weakening he floors below. WOW, 10 floors a second that are totally pulverized. Thats the first ive seen in a 'pancake' collapse. Please explain!!!!
Oh and I guess its a heap of BS that CTist have made up that the CIA trained and funded al Qaeda!!! Gee we have elaborate thought! I cant believe people like you fall for the govts lies. Do you even have any background info on your govt and all their finger prints over everything?
"Oh and I guess its a heap of BS that CTist have made up that the CIA trained and funded al Qaeda!!!"
They trained and funded Bin Laden's resistance force back in the 80s to finght the Russians, that's pretty much common knowledge. But what does that have to do with anything?
"I cant believe people like you fall for the govts lies."
God your blind!!! Your blindness is pathetic. So all of sudden the govt now has nothing to do with al Qaeda even though it was created by them and funded by them for almost 2 decades.....your a joke mate...open your eyes.
The U.S govt walks hand in hand with the Bin Laden's and is linked to al Qaeda and you think that the U.S govt has NOTHING to do with 9/11, even though Bin Laden has been blamed for the attacks!!! Jesus! How much does the govt pay you to do this? Get lost.
You really are thick arent you. I'll say it in simple terms for you.....If the CIA funded and trained al Qaeda for almost 2 decades, what you are trying to suggest is that all of a sudden the govt now has no ties to al Qaeda and no links to the perportrator, Bin Laden!!! WOW....i believe this comment is almost identical to my comment just above yours here!!!
if you can't put two and two together here that's your problem. obviously the search for bin laden is a farce. it's a wild goose chase. a reason to scare the american people into supporting our being there still.
Ok, here you go. Each floor supported a live load of 1.500 tons, with a maximum load capacity of 4,500 tons. The weight of the upper, falling floors was somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000 tons, so how much did you think the lower floors would slow it down?
I can hold 50lbs in my outstretched hand, however if you dropped a horse on my outstretched hand, the horse wouldn't slow down at all.
Your thinking is completely backwards. It does not make sense AT ALL. I understand where you are trying to take this thought, but you trying to hold a falling horse does not debunk anything. And the floors pulverized 10 floors a second. They didnt stack up on each other to increase in tonnage and therefore create a pancake collapse.
NIST uses "global collapse" multiple times without clarifying its relationship to anything. They dont explain WHAT that means.
NIST also uses the term "progressive collapse" 16 times. Without stating what the hell they are talking about. And YES it does matter. Your a moron if you think only bits and pieces of a murder should be investigated and explained. Not only that, we are still waiting for this PROOF that Ms Rice said she had that it was an outside job.
There is less to proove it was done by Bin Laden than the U.S govt. Actually, there is NO proof, NO unexplainable footage or goings on or NO coincidences to link Bin Laden......None at all so i dont know how you can believe such govt BS! Gullable comes to mind.
"NIST uses "global collapse" multiple times without clarifying its relationship to anything. They dont explain WHAT that means."
Global Collapse is a common term in the english language, used to reference things like bank markets, fish stocks, etc. You must be the only person in America who's never heard of it.
"NIST also uses the term "progressive collapse" 16 times. Without stating what the hell they are talking about. And YES it does matter."
That's because they didn't think there were people stupid enough in the world that wouldn't know what it meant. They used the word "concrete" about 568 times without saying what concrete was, does that mean they made up the word?
Fuck your a moron. Your twisting shit to make yourself feel smarter......well its not working! Funny how you only address the comments you think you can answer!!! You obviously know what it means!!! So explain it to me.....oh please great one, its killing me to be so stupid!!!! Remember that this is a MURDER and requires FULL investigation....idiot. And please address ALL of my comments. Picking and choosing shows that your WEAK.
I shoot and I score!!!.....I knew you would ask me to clarify the word 'it'! LOL! 'It' meaning 'global collapse' which is what we have been talking about...! Dur. And if u dont know the OTHER comments I made, that I wish u to comment on and stop picking and choosing, ill cut and paste them for you. God, I feel like im talking to a child.
Ok, do you know what the term "global" means? Do you know what the word "collapse" means? Put them together and voila! You have your answer. If you need further assistance, might I recommend dictionary dot com.
Wake up to yourself. I want you to explain how the twin towers fell in a 'global collapse' fashion. The fact that NIST dont explain how the rest of the building collapsed other than saying 'global collapse' is a crock and you know it. You're just in denial and cant explain it yourself. You are blind, pathetic and a complete waste of time and space.
You are a sloppy debater with NOTHING substantial to say and all you do is twist my comments around and come up with something that doesnt explain or debunk anything despite thinking that you have the answer. All we do is go round in circles. You dont offer anything usefull to think about, just dribble.....so fuck off.
Tell me how much the upper floor sections that fell weighed, then tell me what the maximum load capacity of each floor was, and you'll have your answer.
JoeCraine, what kind of drugs are you on? Why do you ridicule someone who was killed on 911. This is the woman who stood in the hole created by the plane impact and died shortly after that when the building collpased. She spoke to you about jet fuel? What other voices do you hear in your head?
Ok I dun no about private or gov demo crew... But why r they there on the site???? thats the question???? dun u think there is something weird????Its should be Bomb Squad!!! or The Fire man saving life(if u know wut i mean)not trucks Transporting pile of steel????its as simple as abc... logic... I dun care about termite or anything...
Here`s a question why is it Private Demolition Crew Clean Up the Twin Towers?Wasnt the Fema or CIA,FBI or anything that suppose to Check The Evidence ?if I`m an honest person I would let the Bomb Squad Go first(cause maybe the terrorist left some bomb on the site)?But why is the Private Demolition Crew was there first cleaning stuffs and exporting stuff on a Truck to China?
There is no evidence thermite or thermate was used to bring down the towers. The only one who claims that is former-Prof. Steven Jones, who resigned from BYU rather than face peer scrutiny of his work. His claim is based on the presence of sulfur residues on a steel sample that supposedly came from Ground Zero. But sulfur is a marker for many common things besides thermite/thermate.
Eutace, you ask why there were private demo crews working at Ground Zero. The answer is that there are no government demo crews. So private ones were hired.
There's not a demolition expert in the world that says the twin towers were brought down in a controlled demolition. Thermite would not be appropriate for making horizontal cuts on support columns because it only burns vertically. It also leaves a telltale degenerative "fingerprint" which no one in the private demolition clean-up crews saw during debris removal.
MUNCHEN
Hexachloraphine 1 month ago
Alex Jones, and Dr. Jones are desinfo agents.
Massaricossudo 3 months ago
Doesn't Dr. Jones know the meaning of Ground Zero = Place of an atomic bomb explosion.
Dimitri Khalezov explains 911 100%.
Massaricossudo 3 months ago
jews did 911
SteezySkater72 5 months ago
Ameirca did 9/11, Now they are fighting the middle east ilegally claiming to be hero's.
MrSamsamtv 1 year ago
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MrSamsamtv 1 year ago
I am Australian. I got sucked into the terrorist story just like everyone else did in the years following the event. The 911 Commission report looks deceptive. When are the people of the US going to demand justice. What is obama going to do about this. When is Bush Cheney & Rumsfeldt going to stand trial. There are to many holes.
Maloccchio 1 year ago
I MUST ADD TO MY PREVIOUS COMMENT, THAT THE INITIAL IGNITION OF A THERMITE REACTION MAY BE AIDED BY THE USE OF SULFUR. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE ENTIRE THERMITE "COMPOUND" USED CONTAINED IT. NOR AM I SAYING THAT IT WAS ESSENTIAL, BUT WAS TO THE DISCREATION OF THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY CONTRACTED TO DO WORK. ALSO, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH MATERIALS BEING PRESENT FROM OTHER ACTIVITIES, SUCH AS FROM THE FOUNDRYS WHERE THE BEAMS WERE MADE. THINK AGAIN. THINK AGAIN. THINK AGAIN. THINK AGAIN!!!
davfritz 1 year ago
DURING THE EARLY STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE TOWERS, A DEEP EXCAVATION WAS FORMED FOR NOT ONLY THE BASEMENT, BUT FOUNDATIONS ALSO. A GREAT DEAL OF AVCTIVITY BY WAY OF METAL CUTTING OF VERY HEAVY STEEL BEAMS, AS WELL AS REJOINING THEM, WOULD HAVE OCCURRED. THERMITE IS A METAL WORKERS' TOOL FOR SUCH WORK.... UNTILL PROOVEN OTHERWISE, IT CAN BE WELL ASSUMED THERMITE WAS USED EXTENSEVLY. IT CAN BE ASSUMED THAT WORKERS SAW NO REAL NEED TO REMOVE ALL IT'S TRACES. THINK AGAIN, YOU UNEDUCATED LAYMEN!!
davfritz 1 year ago
And the LORD said to me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Jeremiah 11:9
GhostofCliffGullett 1 year ago
@GhostofCliffGullett AND HE TOLD ME TO THINK AGAIN ABOUT DEMONISING PEOPLE I DO NOT KNOW!
davfritz 1 year ago
Wake up America!
anaclet 1 year ago
jews did 911 i swear americans dont just know nd jews disgiused as terrorist nd bush was at florida at a skool reading a book 4 kids nd wen he heard they were attacked he sat there nd did noting like a little bitch asshole i feel sorry for americans that r living in a blind place DAMN JEWS.
meowaleed 1 year ago
i think the people who are coming forth with all this info are the ones who did it because isnt it said that the killer allways returns to the sceen of the crime
and in this case it would be the bomber but i think they did it!
JZ8KJ 2 years ago
3rd bush son's security firm was in control of twin towers at the time as mentioned in Fahren 911 by Mike moore.
Zeno1999 2 years ago 2
Bush's security firm also provided "security" at two of the airports were the planes were hijacked. It just gets better and better.
iceisnice61 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
George Bush did it, and here's how it went down.
Bush was on the first plane to hit WTC and parachuted out at the last minute shouting "mission accomplished!". If you look at the film footage you can see his parachute, it says "Don't mess with Texas" on it.
Dick Cheney piloted the other plane that crashed into the WTC. He died and the GOP replaced him with a robot clone. For real.
That's why that guy got shot hunting, a Cheney-bot shot him.
fgcbgo890 3 years ago
Hint. You need to be a bit clever in order to effectively use sarcasm. Good luck
oldjoe5 3 years ago 5
Its funny that some people just ignore this "officla story killing" evidence, seriosly, the thermite alone is proof that this attack was wanted, and planted in advance, 7 of the hijackers are still alive, and most importantly, you cant hijack a plane, let alone 4 on 1 day you retards, if these terrorists are so pro as they are saying you would expect them to focus their attacks on isreal, whitch they were trying to take over of hundreds of years.
Xendrius 2 years ago
Bush act more like bush-bot - recalling delays, gestures, sorting routine delays. CIA finally, controlled USA thru a bush-bot.
Cheney seems like an ugly retired hooker x-dressing in likeness of an old man - that explains duck shooting accident. Took too many shots at her from rich men's family jewels and now payback time.
Zeno1999 2 years ago
What are we GONNA do about it?
That's a very good question.
But we also need a very good answer.
Ariji86 3 years ago
"It's the question that drives us..."... Trinity from the Matrix... It's more true than you might think. The answer is to educate your fellow humans. The more who know the facts the more will wake up the weaker they will get. Their power is in brainwashing, asleepness and ignorance, and secrecy. End the secrecy, end the brainwashing, end the ignorance. It's OUR planet. OUR countries. The PEOPLE own it. CANCEL THE DEBT. It's only credit in a computer anyway. They can take it.
TheGoodnessIsGood 3 years ago
These ppl are very few and dont really ve much power over majority. They just hope we live day to day in stress and when weekend comes we get weaker with booze and drugs ... and so on... wake up and start talking to ur neighbors.
Powerful united neighborhoods will awaken local politicians who are part of this crooked hierarchy. Thats the only way to make them shit in pants. All have to rise.
In Phillipines that's how they brot dn dictator Marcos who treated ppl like dirt bags, same here ...
Zeno1999 2 years ago
i wonder if there was a mini nuke or other super new high tech bomb in the elevator shaft because of the way the debris shoots up with a plume when the building demolition occurs. the building goes down and the debris shoots upward and outward. also should be noted how much of the building was turned to a fine powder which demonstrates great and intense explosive force. it was turned to powder before it hit the ground. this was done with explosives, probably the newest and most powerful.
Joeey 3 years ago
that is one thing about the high-tech weapons culture, they always have to use it on something. it should also be noted when Israel recently attacked Lebanon they used high tech "DIME" tungsten weapons. Also, reports in Iraq of people burned in cars in weird precise ways, either microwave or tungsten dime weapons. doctors said "what is this?"
Joeey 3 years ago
Watch the movie "The panama deception". They United States was using Laser weapons on civilians in Panama in the early '90's. Bush senior is the most depraved sick human being on the planet. Ok, he has peers, but he's way up their, he makes Hitler look like a freaking NEWB at being an evil depraved psycho.
TheGoodnessIsGood 3 years ago 3
What does a mini-nuke do? Is this publicly known technology?
TheGoodnessIsGood 3 years ago
To TheGoodness....
Seen your ques. thought I would offer this. Mini Nuke aka LOW YIELD THERMONUCLEAR DEVICE.
Normally not used/planned to demolish structures, there are better conventional weapons for that job. In fact its use is Anti-personnel, kills people and leaves they building intact. Nice.
Yes it is public knowledge, developed around the late 60s.
Its effect can be found on certain web sites like this one, if they haven't censored it. You can also try DiscloseTV.
iceisnice61 3 years ago
There is a story floating around concerning high tech weapons that "helped out" during the Op in NYC. The Navy has been playing around with "LOW WAVE" energy. When the wave is pointed at an object, the frequency basicly shatters the object. Developed with friends at DARPA.
iceisnice61 3 years ago
Ive heard and researched some of what you speak. Have any links?
izzysykopth 2 years ago
It has been a while since I read the story, l'll go dig and get back to you.
iceisnice61 2 years ago
watch?v=Cc5uOPhVFKw
Dancing Israelis: "Our purpose was to document the event."
aoibhgreine 4 years ago
Dancing Israelis: "Our purpose was to document the event."
The same purpose that everyone who pointed a camera at the towers that day had.
thedman113 4 years ago
In advance?
MustacheVerra 4 years ago
No, in time to capture the 2nd impact.
thedman113 4 years ago
OK, so they took the plane from Israel to the US as soon as they heard the first plane hit? That was quick!
MustacheVerra 4 years ago
They were in Israel that morning?
thedman113 4 years ago
That was sarcasm... These guys were slapping hight 5, dancing etc... And then there were 60 Israeli with military training, explosive training who got arrested after 911. The information regarding their involvement with 911 is now ''classified''. And we all know why that is.
MustacheVerra 4 years ago
"These guys were slapping hight 5, dancing etc... "
Slapping high 5 because they had just captured a huge world event live on video. That may be a bit callous, but it doesn't mean they did it.
"And then there were 60 Israeli with military training, explosive training who got arrested after 911."
There were? Who?
thedman113 4 years ago
It was reported on Fox news. According to a CIA official the Israeli connection to 911 is classified! But we know they were expert in explosives, spying etc..
The report is on YouTube.
MustacheVerra 4 years ago
poetry hound makes ther round to help protect the murderers of 911
capelipl 4 years ago
mediacop, the high level of octane in av. gas burns or evaporates immediately when contact with open air.
av. gas just doesnt sit there and burn.
all those bullshit units task force this, and task force that, didnt do shit.
puddy6798 4 years ago
911myths dot com, and: debunking911 dot com
PkofPk 4 years ago
"never stop a fool from speaking, let them, so all may know them for what they are...."
WhatIBelieveIs 4 years ago
I was 2 blocks from the WTC on 9/11. The molten metal was from jet fuel burning off. There was high security inside the WTC BEFORE 9-11 with the FBI and NYC's Counterterrorism Task Force as tenants -- and I worked for the Mayor's office. The ONLY conspiracy was al Q'aida's.
MediaCop 4 years ago
Jet fuel does not burn nearly hot enough to melt steel in IDEAL circumstances, let alone to heat the WTC's structurally strengthened steel to yellow / white hot as we see here. Look it up.
fallious 4 years ago
MediaCop.....Wow.. you just made a point here...Its been said that some unusual power shut downs appeared in WTC like 2 week before 9/11. AND why high security? Why FBI? Why so many CTF mans entered the WTC with EQUIPMENT????
Dammmmn...must be the FBI or CT Force who putted the charges of thermite.
JESUS CHRIST......
rymen 4 years ago
No Rymen, Giuliani put the NYC response team into the WTC, just a block from City Hall. The FBI negotiated with the Port Authority for their office space. There was no thermite or other explosive residues found. These would have spread out for blocks...and you could even smell them...don't need dogs.
MediaCop 4 years ago
Ok but why so many man entered the building if it was only an Negotiation? I meen if FBI are involved why couldnt Giuliani.I meen terrorist dont study how to demolish buildings....ENGINEERS do..Physicians..etc
Terrorists are formed in battles,arms,wepons...but not in Structures Analysis,Statics or Dynamics.
This is a job of a PRO...Even in regular building demolitions, there's sometimes failure. There's something wrong.And I obviously dont trust CNN,ABC,FOX...cuz they hiding info.
rymen 4 years ago
No inside job. It was an outside job. Al Qauida's. Ramsey Youssef started it in 93, entered the US on an Iraqi passport issued him by Saddam's secret service, the Muhkhabbarrat. He escaped with the same Iraqi passport and his Operation Bojinga plot was foiled by the Philippine police in Manila 1995. Al Qaida all the way to 9-11.
MediaCop 4 years ago
Mediacop- The CIA trained al Qaeda, so who is behind 9/11 now!!!!!!!!! Get up with the FACTS, please.
elladomtender 4 years ago
Mediacop: Are you all with it in the head??? Just asking because jet fuel does NOT burn HOT ENOUGH to melt steel. Everybody knows that except for you obviously. Even Bush puppets and sheep like you have resigned to this fact...so why do you back track???? Dont you have anything else substantial to say? Oh and YOUR conspiricy is al Q'aida, ours is Bush.
elladomtender 4 years ago
"Just asking because jet fuel does NOT burn HOT ENOUGH to melt steel."
That's why there wasn't any melted steel. This clip shows molten aluminum alloy from the aircraft pouring out of the tower. Here's what the molten aluminum alloy looks like:
world-aluminium*org/production/processing/casting*html
thedman113 4 years ago
Says WHO??? Who says it was from the aircraft???? Where u up there watching the aircraft burn and melt were you!
elladomtender 4 years ago
Photographs, and NIST simulations of the aircraft impact, show large piles of debris in the 80th and 81st floors of WTC 2 near the site where the glowing liquid eventually appeared. Much of this debris came from the aircraft itself and from the office furnishings that the aircraft pushed forward as it tunneled to this far end of the building.
thedman113 4 years ago
I find it hard to belive there were pics from inside of the 80th floor of the burning aircraft!! And NIST are only assuming in their simulations which in my book the last i knew, assuming was not FACT. And office furniture does not burn orange and cool to silver....sorry.
elladomtender 4 years ago
"I find it hard to belive there were pics from inside of the 80th floor"
Who said they were inside?
"And NIST are only assuming in their simulations"
It's based off computer models, which is better than assuming.
"And office furniture does not burn orange and cool to silver....sorry."
Aluminum does. Aluminum alloys from the plane, in this case.
thedman113 4 years ago
'Who said they were inside?'
You did. You said there were photographs of large piles of debris on the 80th floor!!! Only pics on the inside would show that, so then u r stating that the pics then must have been taken from the inside then arent you!
Computer models cannot simulate exactly what happened on sept 11. If its not accurate then its not reliable. If its not reliable then its not believeable! Thanks NIST for trying though.
elladomtender 4 years ago
And YOU SAID the office furniture was pushed by the aircraft to that corner where the molten metal poured out, not me!
Ok, so what about FEMA's acknowledgement of Thermate? They do nothing to explain that it WAS found at the bases. I wonder why! Maybe you can enlighten us!
elladomtender 4 years ago
"Ok, so what about FEMA's acknowledgement of Thermate?"
Can you link me to this?
thedman113 4 years ago
Its in their report if u would bother to read it.
elladomtender 4 years ago
"Its in their report if u would bother to read it."
I read it. It didn't say anything about thermate.
thedman113 4 years ago
"You did. You said there were photographs of large piles of debris on the 80th floor!!! Only pics on the inside would show that, so then u r stating that the pics then must have been taken from the inside then arent you!"
So you think the building did not have windows.
"Computer models cannot simulate exactly what happened on sept 11"
It has a high degree of probability, and when backed up by photographic evidence, you can pretty much confirm it.
thedman113 4 years ago
Please!!! Dont make me laugh! Nothing can be 'confirmed' as fact by a computer generated simulation. NIST talk about 'global collapse' and collase initiation but NOT about the collapse itself. I mean what is 'global collapse' anyway. Talk about making up new terms to suit themselves.
elladomtender 4 years ago
NIST have failed to explain in their 'computer simulations' how a steel and concrete building with a steel and concrete core fell 10 floors a SECOND. Do you realise how absurd that is, to have us believe this could happen without weakening he floors below. WOW, 10 floors a second that are totally pulverized. Thats the first ive seen in a 'pancake' collapse. Please explain!!!!
elladomtender 4 years ago
Oh and I guess its a heap of BS that CTist have made up that the CIA trained and funded al Qaeda!!! Gee we have elaborate thought! I cant believe people like you fall for the govts lies. Do you even have any background info on your govt and all their finger prints over everything?
elladomtender 4 years ago
"Oh and I guess its a heap of BS that CTist have made up that the CIA trained and funded al Qaeda!!!"
They trained and funded Bin Laden's resistance force back in the 80s to finght the Russians, that's pretty much common knowledge. But what does that have to do with anything?
"I cant believe people like you fall for the govts lies."
You have yet to point one out to me.
thedman113 4 years ago
God your blind!!! Your blindness is pathetic. So all of sudden the govt now has nothing to do with al Qaeda even though it was created by them and funded by them for almost 2 decades.....your a joke mate...open your eyes.
elladomtender 4 years ago
The U.S govt walks hand in hand with the Bin Laden's and is linked to al Qaeda and you think that the U.S govt has NOTHING to do with 9/11, even though Bin Laden has been blamed for the attacks!!! Jesus! How much does the govt pay you to do this? Get lost.
elladomtender 4 years ago
ME: "They trained and funded Bin Laden's resistance force back in the 80s to finght the Russians, that's pretty much common knowledge."
YOU: "So all of sudden the govt now has nothing to do with al Qaeda even though it was created by them and funded by them for almost 2 decades"
EH??? Make some sense!
thedman113 4 years ago
You really are thick arent you. I'll say it in simple terms for you.....If the CIA funded and trained al Qaeda for almost 2 decades, what you are trying to suggest is that all of a sudden the govt now has no ties to al Qaeda and no links to the perportrator, Bin Laden!!! WOW....i believe this comment is almost identical to my comment just above yours here!!!
elladomtender 4 years ago
When did we stop funding them?
thedman113 4 years ago
if you can't put two and two together here that's your problem. obviously the search for bin laden is a farce. it's a wild goose chase. a reason to scare the american people into supporting our being there still.
jetlenoir 4 years ago
Check out Rumsfeld and Cheney on youtube caught out blatently LYING on TV....caught out red handed.....I actually think they are in my favorites!!!!
elladomtender 4 years ago
"Please explain!!!!"
Ok, here you go. Each floor supported a live load of 1.500 tons, with a maximum load capacity of 4,500 tons. The weight of the upper, falling floors was somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000 tons, so how much did you think the lower floors would slow it down?
I can hold 50lbs in my outstretched hand, however if you dropped a horse on my outstretched hand, the horse wouldn't slow down at all.
thedman113 4 years ago
Your thinking is completely backwards. It does not make sense AT ALL. I understand where you are trying to take this thought, but you trying to hold a falling horse does not debunk anything. And the floors pulverized 10 floors a second. They didnt stack up on each other to increase in tonnage and therefore create a pancake collapse.
elladomtender 4 years ago
"Your thinking is completely backwards. It does not make sense AT ALL."
Don't just say it doesn't make sense - tell me what is wrong about it.
thedman113 4 years ago
"NIST talk about 'global collapse' and collase initiation but NOT about the collapse itself."
After collapse initiation, what else matters? Did you want them to diagram where each square inch of concrete fell?
"I mean what is 'global collapse' anyway. Talk about making up new terms to suit themselves."
LOL! Just because you've never heard of a word doesn't mean it didn't exist, it just means you need to get more educated.
thedman113 4 years ago
NIST uses "global collapse" multiple times without clarifying its relationship to anything. They dont explain WHAT that means.
NIST also uses the term "progressive collapse" 16 times. Without stating what the hell they are talking about. And YES it does matter. Your a moron if you think only bits and pieces of a murder should be investigated and explained. Not only that, we are still waiting for this PROOF that Ms Rice said she had that it was an outside job.
elladomtender 4 years ago
There is less to proove it was done by Bin Laden than the U.S govt. Actually, there is NO proof, NO unexplainable footage or goings on or NO coincidences to link Bin Laden......None at all so i dont know how you can believe such govt BS! Gullable comes to mind.
elladomtender 4 years ago
"NIST uses "global collapse" multiple times without clarifying its relationship to anything. They dont explain WHAT that means."
Global Collapse is a common term in the english language, used to reference things like bank markets, fish stocks, etc. You must be the only person in America who's never heard of it.
thedman113 4 years ago
"NIST also uses the term "progressive collapse" 16 times. Without stating what the hell they are talking about. And YES it does matter."
That's because they didn't think there were people stupid enough in the world that wouldn't know what it meant. They used the word "concrete" about 568 times without saying what concrete was, does that mean they made up the word?
thedman113 4 years ago
Fuck your a moron. Your twisting shit to make yourself feel smarter......well its not working! Funny how you only address the comments you think you can answer!!! You obviously know what it means!!! So explain it to me.....oh please great one, its killing me to be so stupid!!!! Remember that this is a MURDER and requires FULL investigation....idiot. And please address ALL of my comments. Picking and choosing shows that your WEAK.
elladomtender 4 years ago
What a bunch of blather that did nothing to prove anything I said wrong.
"So explain it to me....."
Explain what to you?
thedman113 4 years ago
I shoot and I score!!!.....I knew you would ask me to clarify the word 'it'! LOL! 'It' meaning 'global collapse' which is what we have been talking about...! Dur. And if u dont know the OTHER comments I made, that I wish u to comment on and stop picking and choosing, ill cut and paste them for you. God, I feel like im talking to a child.
elladomtender 4 years ago
Explain global collapse to you? Are you serious?
Ok, do you know what the term "global" means? Do you know what the word "collapse" means? Put them together and voila! You have your answer. If you need further assistance, might I recommend dictionary dot com.
thedman113 4 years ago
Wake up to yourself. I want you to explain how the twin towers fell in a 'global collapse' fashion. The fact that NIST dont explain how the rest of the building collapsed other than saying 'global collapse' is a crock and you know it. You're just in denial and cant explain it yourself. You are blind, pathetic and a complete waste of time and space.
elladomtender 4 years ago
You are a sloppy debater with NOTHING substantial to say and all you do is twist my comments around and come up with something that doesnt explain or debunk anything despite thinking that you have the answer. All we do is go round in circles. You dont offer anything usefull to think about, just dribble.....so fuck off.
elladomtender 4 years ago
Tell me how much the upper floor sections that fell weighed, then tell me what the maximum load capacity of each floor was, and you'll have your answer.
thedman113 4 years ago
JoeCraine, what kind of drugs are you on? Why do you ridicule someone who was killed on 911. This is the woman who stood in the hole created by the plane impact and died shortly after that when the building collpased. She spoke to you about jet fuel? What other voices do you hear in your head?
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Ok I dun no about private or gov demo crew... But why r they there on the site???? thats the question???? dun u think there is something weird????Its should be Bomb Squad!!! or The Fire man saving life(if u know wut i mean)not trucks Transporting pile of steel????its as simple as abc... logic... I dun care about termite or anything...
EutaceMullins 5 years ago
Here`s a question why is it Private Demolition Crew Clean Up the Twin Towers?Wasnt the Fema or CIA,FBI or anything that suppose to Check The Evidence ?if I`m an honest person I would let the Bomb Squad Go first(cause maybe the terrorist left some bomb on the site)?But why is the Private Demolition Crew was there first cleaning stuffs and exporting stuff on a Truck to China?
EutaceMullins 5 years ago
...cause you`ll find rests of thermite on it!
about NIST&FEMA: I don`t need reports from ASCE
about HOW it happend, when another Silverstein made the reports! ..get involved...
nine11Revolution 5 years ago
There is no evidence thermite or thermate was used to bring down the towers. The only one who claims that is former-Prof. Steven Jones, who resigned from BYU rather than face peer scrutiny of his work. His claim is based on the presence of sulfur residues on a steel sample that supposedly came from Ground Zero. But sulfur is a marker for many common things besides thermite/thermate.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Eutace, you ask why there were private demo crews working at Ground Zero. The answer is that there are no government demo crews. So private ones were hired.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
There's not a demolition expert in the world that says the twin towers were brought down in a controlled demolition. Thermite would not be appropriate for making horizontal cuts on support columns because it only burns vertically. It also leaves a telltale degenerative "fingerprint" which no one in the private demolition clean-up crews saw during debris removal.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
WOW. Spread the word guys.
theredpill99 5 years ago
It True its damn true 5 stars..
KingLuchieus 5 years ago