Tim Sebastian when in Hardtalk was great an showing the hidden intentions of the most terrible people.
Yes, I waited for his interviews.
"It was a process of trying to extract something as close to the truth."
In his words and he did it.
I like Doha debates and people should try to understand the diversity of Arabic world instead of having the stereotyped version that they are all terrorists.
When The Doha Debates had an Israeli cabinet minister on, plus an English Jew, it was held in the UK. So what free speech is Sebastian talking about. When Two people because of their religion, plus the nationality of one of the Jews, are not allowed in to Qatar were the progamme is held. The programme is not representative of the Arab world, because the audience has to be well educated, and fluent in English. Like most things in this world it's about money, that goes into Sebastian's pocket.
@ludvan67 I must say you are a clever man, turning the labelling to me while you labelled me from the beginning. You say you never read Alan's work but I do see similarities between you and him. Nevertheless. I do not ponfiticate about it, I merely said that everything must be able to be questionned. As we don't even know the present "truth" we surely must be able to critisize the past "truth". But your reaction was so emotional that you labelled me as an anti-semite which I deeply regret.
@delii83 Now you're calling me a liar. I have never read.listened to Dershowitz. I know of him, what I know dose not please me. Yes we must be allowed to question, when there is doubt. But the evidence for the Holocaust is so overwhelming, what is there to question. We have Films, people who are still alive who can tell about it. Soldiers who entered the camps, who had been through a war seen horrors, but wept when they saw what had happened in the concentartion camps.
Respond to this video.. BBC recording by Richard Dimbelby (that I have) of what he saw as he entered one of the camps. And of course the museum Yad Veshem that has a website. I've been there seen the hair, the glasses, the teeth after the gold had been extracted. What more do you want. Also what about the pain, the nightmares, that these people still suffer. You want to bring that all back. NO emphatically NO! It will not be questioned. Discussed yes, but not questioned. Fini!
@ludvan67 I never questionned wether it took place or not. I merely said it must also be open for discussion, the extent or the power behind the bad man Hitler. What is the real power behind this evil man? If you examin history of several objectives it may also be that also Jewish businessmen gave recources to hitler to do his work. However, the Palistinian tragedy is also a Holocaust. But no country is willing to acknowledge this truth because of the influence Israel has on these countries.
Press in Arab states are nothing but mouthpieces of the government. People can talk about anything except the Imams and the government policies and their policies. Journalists in Egypt are usually summoned by authorities to explain about issues that they write about at times they get jailed for "insulting religion" and government. Doha Debates is good, it gives people a platform to express their minds on issues that are important to them and to be heard.
To bring free speech to an area where there is none?
What the hell is this person talking about?
There isn't free speech in western countries as well. In my country you get sent to jail for questionning the holocaust? What's free about that?
Controlling the media in western countries? Is that free speech? Is that democracy? Tim Sibestian is not a neutral interviewer. He hardly listens to his guests, only pounders them with questions which are not neutral.
@delii83 What question do you have about the Holocaust. Did it happen, yes. Where Six million people killed because they were Jewish, yes. Plus several hundred thousand homosexuals, Gypsies, the mentally ill, and invalids. There you have your question answered on this Holocaust Day in Israel, and you can stay a free law abiding Belgian.
@ludvan67 It's not wether it has happened or not. It's about the fact it is open to discussion or not. You know very well what I mean with my statement however you rather put it in a different context. Solely out of your comment I can see that you are biased as well. Regards
@delii83 What's to discus. If you mean the inhumanity of one man wanting to distroy an entire group of people, well on what level do you want to discus it. It's evilness? Sure I'm biased two thirds of my family were murdered by these monsters. Plus a third of the then Jewish people. Even now 70 years after it happened we have barley reached the number of Jews of the 1930's. Just come out be honest, and say you're an anti-Semite, I'll respect you for that at least. Then piss off!
@ludvan67 And do please question your own history regarding the holocaust. One man can never do all this damage without the help of others. Please check the truth behind hitler. Do not forget he also was backed by companies like IBM, got money from Jewish families etc. If you want an objective view of history you must read both sides and not the side you want to know or hear.
@delii83 Oh so you are an anti-Semite. Belgium is a democracy, and like in Israel I'm sure any citizen can go to the High Court of Justice, and challenge a law to have it repealed. Freedom of speech is guaranteed under both the UN & EU's human rights declaration. If as is obvious you feel so passionate about not being able to spout you antisemitism in public, try & get the law changed. If Hitler had one Belgium would not have this system of appeal open to the public, & I would be dead.
@ludvan67 As I mentioned before, you are very eager to put the label of racist or anti-semite to a person that doesn't share your opinion so it's not worth talking to you. You should read some books of Noam Chomsky or Norman Finkelstein instead of Alan Dershowitz. I can see that you have his kind of reasoning so it's not even worth beginning a conversation with you. I hope you will open your mind and have a little critisizm to all sides. Regards
@delii83 If you would bother to look at my channel you would see I have 3 video's of Chomsky. I'm a great admirer of him. I have never read Alan Dershowitz, all I know of him is Chomsky hates him. If you are not an antisemitic why are do you so want to be able to pontificate about it. As I said you can appeal to have the law changed. It happened that's a fact. Why you that law in Belgium I don't know. In Germany one can talk about it, but can't deny it.
Respond to this video...Here in Israel it's discussed all the time. As far as I know there is no law saying you can't say it did not happen, probably because no one would. As I said don't understand why you want to talk about it. You don't know me, yet you label me wit things that are not true.
@delii83 Labelling anyone as an anti-semite is easy. Maybe worth the mention that every question about history regarding Jews are labelled as anti-semitism. I deeply symphatize what happened to your family. But the fact is that critisizm must be seen as a good thing and must not be labelled as racism a.k.a. anti-semitism. People have all right to question history as the truth is so hard to find even in the current time. Do not forget that history is written by the victor. Regards
please remove the negro, it destracts me. Negros should play basketball not simulate academic values.
TheSunmanho 5 months ago
Tim Sebastian when in Hardtalk was great an showing the hidden intentions of the most terrible people.
Yes, I waited for his interviews.
"It was a process of trying to extract something as close to the truth."
In his words and he did it.
I like Doha debates and people should try to understand the diversity of Arabic world instead of having the stereotyped version that they are all terrorists.
AnaLimaLuiza 9 months ago
When The Doha Debates had an Israeli cabinet minister on, plus an English Jew, it was held in the UK. So what free speech is Sebastian talking about. When Two people because of their religion, plus the nationality of one of the Jews, are not allowed in to Qatar were the progamme is held. The programme is not representative of the Arab world, because the audience has to be well educated, and fluent in English. Like most things in this world it's about money, that goes into Sebastian's pocket.
ludvan67 10 months ago
@ludvan67 I must say you are a clever man, turning the labelling to me while you labelled me from the beginning. You say you never read Alan's work but I do see similarities between you and him. Nevertheless. I do not ponfiticate about it, I merely said that everything must be able to be questionned. As we don't even know the present "truth" we surely must be able to critisize the past "truth". But your reaction was so emotional that you labelled me as an anti-semite which I deeply regret.
delii83 10 months ago
@delii83 Now you're calling me a liar. I have never read.listened to Dershowitz. I know of him, what I know dose not please me. Yes we must be allowed to question, when there is doubt. But the evidence for the Holocaust is so overwhelming, what is there to question. We have Films, people who are still alive who can tell about it. Soldiers who entered the camps, who had been through a war seen horrors, but wept when they saw what had happened in the concentartion camps.
ludvan67 10 months ago
Respond to this video.. BBC recording by Richard Dimbelby (that I have) of what he saw as he entered one of the camps. And of course the museum Yad Veshem that has a website. I've been there seen the hair, the glasses, the teeth after the gold had been extracted. What more do you want. Also what about the pain, the nightmares, that these people still suffer. You want to bring that all back. NO emphatically NO! It will not be questioned. Discussed yes, but not questioned. Fini!
ludvan67 10 months ago
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delii83 10 months ago
@ludvan67 I never questionned wether it took place or not. I merely said it must also be open for discussion, the extent or the power behind the bad man Hitler. What is the real power behind this evil man? If you examin history of several objectives it may also be that also Jewish businessmen gave recources to hitler to do his work. However, the Palistinian tragedy is also a Holocaust. But no country is willing to acknowledge this truth because of the influence Israel has on these countries.
delii83 10 months ago
This guy Tim is always bias and has never been impartial in his interviews. A regular viewer shall know what I am talking about.
alliswell149 1 year ago
Press in Arab states are nothing but mouthpieces of the government. People can talk about anything except the Imams and the government policies and their policies. Journalists in Egypt are usually summoned by authorities to explain about issues that they write about at times they get jailed for "insulting religion" and government. Doha Debates is good, it gives people a platform to express their minds on issues that are important to them and to be heard.
bahrainibaby 1 year ago
To bring free speech to an area where there is none?
What the hell is this person talking about?
There isn't free speech in western countries as well. In my country you get sent to jail for questionning the holocaust? What's free about that?
Controlling the media in western countries? Is that free speech? Is that democracy? Tim Sibestian is not a neutral interviewer. He hardly listens to his guests, only pounders them with questions which are not neutral.
delii83 2 years ago
@delii83 What question do you have about the Holocaust. Did it happen, yes. Where Six million people killed because they were Jewish, yes. Plus several hundred thousand homosexuals, Gypsies, the mentally ill, and invalids. There you have your question answered on this Holocaust Day in Israel, and you can stay a free law abiding Belgian.
ludvan67 10 months ago
@ludvan67 It's not wether it has happened or not. It's about the fact it is open to discussion or not. You know very well what I mean with my statement however you rather put it in a different context. Solely out of your comment I can see that you are biased as well. Regards
delii83 10 months ago
@delii83 What's to discus. If you mean the inhumanity of one man wanting to distroy an entire group of people, well on what level do you want to discus it. It's evilness? Sure I'm biased two thirds of my family were murdered by these monsters. Plus a third of the then Jewish people. Even now 70 years after it happened we have barley reached the number of Jews of the 1930's. Just come out be honest, and say you're an anti-Semite, I'll respect you for that at least. Then piss off!
ludvan67 10 months ago
@ludvan67 And do please question your own history regarding the holocaust. One man can never do all this damage without the help of others. Please check the truth behind hitler. Do not forget he also was backed by companies like IBM, got money from Jewish families etc. If you want an objective view of history you must read both sides and not the side you want to know or hear.
delii83 10 months ago
@delii83 Oh so you are an anti-Semite. Belgium is a democracy, and like in Israel I'm sure any citizen can go to the High Court of Justice, and challenge a law to have it repealed. Freedom of speech is guaranteed under both the UN & EU's human rights declaration. If as is obvious you feel so passionate about not being able to spout you antisemitism in public, try & get the law changed. If Hitler had one Belgium would not have this system of appeal open to the public, & I would be dead.
ludvan67 10 months ago
@ludvan67 As I mentioned before, you are very eager to put the label of racist or anti-semite to a person that doesn't share your opinion so it's not worth talking to you. You should read some books of Noam Chomsky or Norman Finkelstein instead of Alan Dershowitz. I can see that you have his kind of reasoning so it's not even worth beginning a conversation with you. I hope you will open your mind and have a little critisizm to all sides. Regards
delii83 10 months ago
@delii83 If you would bother to look at my channel you would see I have 3 video's of Chomsky. I'm a great admirer of him. I have never read Alan Dershowitz, all I know of him is Chomsky hates him. If you are not an antisemitic why are do you so want to be able to pontificate about it. As I said you can appeal to have the law changed. It happened that's a fact. Why you that law in Belgium I don't know. In Germany one can talk about it, but can't deny it.
ludvan67 10 months ago
Respond to this video...Here in Israel it's discussed all the time. As far as I know there is no law saying you can't say it did not happen, probably because no one would. As I said don't understand why you want to talk about it. You don't know me, yet you label me wit things that are not true.
ludvan67 10 months ago
@delii83 Labelling anyone as an anti-semite is easy. Maybe worth the mention that every question about history regarding Jews are labelled as anti-semitism. I deeply symphatize what happened to your family. But the fact is that critisizm must be seen as a good thing and must not be labelled as racism a.k.a. anti-semitism. People have all right to question history as the truth is so hard to find even in the current time. Do not forget that history is written by the victor. Regards
delii83 10 months ago
Great man
Metsada007 2 years ago